let me ask a question. did the japanese ninja art evolve from the chinese lin-kuei or was that a myth? also do you think the korean sulsa( of which chosunninja could have promoted) were actually real? i saw articles in the mid-eighties adverted in black belt magazines feature on ninjutsu and the chinese and korean stealth arts of the lin-kuei and sulsa.

At one point he was so down in his crack addiction he even was homeless out on the streets looking like a bum, he accidentally bumped into Master Kwon's son begging for money and even he could not recognize him. He found his youtube sight later and was BLOWN away of his deception. My main concern is for all the Christian people following him and joining his dojo as he is no Christian, but truely an evil person, playing the part.

The hamon is a clay temper process that is done by the swordsmith not a natral effect from the steel!

In chosons video, he states the butt handle was passed down to him and not the whole sword

This is a ridiculous argument. Also, Gregg is obviously an extremely accomplished martial artist. I don't understand the reason for all the animus.

Because you already knew what a hamon was. For those of us listening to see why Chosun's sword was fake, but may not already know much about swords, the video would have been better if you didn't assume people knew sword terminology and its significance. There are natural hamons and etched ones. There are cheaply made swords and expensive, very well made ones. But a cheap one could still injure a person, so I wouldn't say fake. I still don't get what sanity has to do with sword knowledge.

Oh boy this good ol debate again lol. It's funny because Greg's Ninja-to has a fairly obvious fake hamon on the blade, along with an even more obvious 440 stainless steel blade lustre. Nothing about the sword screams or even suggests Japanese craftsmanship! The liar is never going to admit his sword is fake, so the best course of action is simply to educate people, so good job on the vid! :) - Rev

The audio in this video is atrocious!

@BlackShinobiShozoku besides keeping your leg attatched the lead leg is impotant for cutting (more of your inexperience) and drawing energy from the ground to the hips and so on (didn't get that in your 4 lessons did ya?) when your hips go one way and your shoulders go another (also not square to the target) you lose (and lost) your balance and are not geetting a good cut the only reason you got thru the twig is you gave it a mighty peeky swing like a baseball bat with a good sword

Well, Greg doesn't made any money from his activity (like other "authentic ninjas" do). U know, ppl dont like sentences kinda "train hard for 10 years", they are more attracted with Secret Ninja Schools etc. So, if he is attracted ppl to MA this way - why not?

This so called ninja sword was invented by Hollywood....

About Greg-he is not asked for even a dime. I am TKD ITF practitioner, but I always wanted to learn that "hurricane" staff trick. It has no practical application, but it looks soooo cool :) I bought all the staff fencing books here in Ukraine with no result. And than I learned from Greg and I am remembering him each time when I'm practicing that move. Finally, I'm ready to wear black cape and play ninjas without asking Secret Kogaryu Papers. You are too prejudiced, Jesus told us to forgive :)

greg is an embarrassment to all LEGITIMATE korean martial artists...

The problem with this, is that was just a poorly made video. It starts out with a promo picture of you, while you have already begun talking, Then follows with showing 2 swords in a backyad, with solar flare, and it cannot be discerned from how they are shown, what the difference is.

1) Well, we have Gorbyleff books printed in Russia ISBN 985-13-0621-5, ISBN 985-433-326-4. Very well grounded.Only japan medieval sources used, no Bujinkan\BlackBeltMag crap.Any of modern "Ninjutsu" schools cannot make any proof about its lineage. For one reason: once Tokugava ruled in 1600, peace was established and there are no more need in ninjas, as there are no more need in minutemen since Independence war ended in USA and no more need in red partisans here since WW2 ended :D

@BlackShinobiShozoku 1) I am not familiar with the history and I honestly don't care much about. 2) The things I saw looked pretty useful. How do you misuse techniques from other arts? What about MMA? 3) I know a some of great teachers who have bad realationship to their senseis. It is between them and not really somebody elses buisness. 4)It is only a belt. The grading itself doesn't make you a better martial artist. In fact the black belt or other stuff can motivate students. It's just a belt

special forces/ operations units are very much the modern equivalent of the ninja -in their -role- in today`s wars/conflicts, sure the circumstances in ancient japan was different but their tactics and methods are paralell

2)Ninja cannot be compared to SEALS etc.For simple reason:regular military forces dont violate laws of their countries.Any of ninjas deed, if being recognized, entrailed their death.So again,if smbd claimed he is a ninja-he is definitely not. About ads mentioned in "ancient Ninja scrolls" - sounds interesting.I srsly doubt that in any country at any century killers and spies 4 hire was tolerated. I'd like to read one of those scrolls. Where did u find them? Bujinkan? :D

Sane person? I was not putting you down as a person. I'm saying it doesn't make the point. Substitute solar flare for ambient light glare. I doubt many people could tell the different quality of the swords by how you show them with the sun glare, and quick side view. I have a cheap samurai sword that looks just like your real sword. If it was shown how you did.

aww peeky i'm not feeling the love you know maybe it's the different schools thing but your school seems to pick the more uncommon approach to things like the grip but think as you wish peeky and i'm glad you can see the difference between you and me and understand it

first of all they are completely different swords, second the lighting is completely different, and hot damn they are both metal and sharp kinda makes them a sword

i thought ninja swords were straight whats this hamon sword aint that samurai?

and yes some masahiros can be picked up for under $100 and range in price to upwards of $300 plus you can have them made custom mine is 1045 high carbon steel with zinc tsuba it is great for tatami and (real sized) bamboo =)

@BlackShinobiShozoku 5) This is wrong. 6) I don't see him hiding at all. He just shares what he knows and offers his knowledge to others. The others are free to simply klick away. The "sharing for free" was alway a big problem for teachers who claim some stuff like martial arts techniques as only theirs, and is just politcs. Martial arts shouldn't become that but the truth is...

In my years of ninjustu I never heard of a ninjato sword at I'll hard that name on movies. Besides that in history ninjas at least in iga and koga era ninjas will use sato sword of was never straight blade like the real sword you have.

whatever you say peeky keep thinking that it's your delusioned samurai world

there seems to be so much hate between the two of you... perhaps I can suggest you guys sort it out in a kumite!

those questions are; 1 how am I a fraud?? 2 what was the 3rd japanese kata in the =) vid?? 3 what's the link?? so we can see your BS while it's still steaming

Some swords have taken months for it to be just perfect and they are absolute experts at making the hamon. There are many different hamon styles as well some may not be perfect and others might. Dont post videos to make chosun ninja feel bad, if u dont like them then keep it to yourself. If it was actualy fake almost anyone could tell on there own anyway

you say I lack balance and posture- not true- you say I lack cutting mechanics -not true- in fact I have far better cutting mechanics and posture if I was going to injure myself I would have by now but thanks for your concern once again what I do is not MA no it is based on MA and use many concepts (that yes I do understand) and forms from several MA from kung fu to kenjutsu

Watch " the ninjas sword and truth" video by chosun ninja he shows a description of the sword and it says aesthetic hamon added

your desperation is hysterical I don't need a $5000 sword even for cutting boo I can get thru that with my beater shinwa(real sized boo not twigs)so an over priced sword is not for me it would be nice to hang on the wall but not necessary if you paid less (you don't even know what I paid) for a 1065 then you got a shit sword my shinwas 1 1065 2 damascus were both under $200 what's your point?

:D I love the ninja wars that most or all ninjas on KZfaq have. I really wish y'all get band together into different clans and fight it out! Iga and Koga! :D

and if your cut is a demonstration of your school/lineage then it appears to be a mcdojo or that family wasn't very good if that's the case then a youtube MA is showing you up big time again join us peeky come to the dark side

Well, technically speaking, anyone claimed he is a ninja is NOT a ninja. The same as someone claimed he is a spy is not a spy definitely :) Did you know how the ninjamania was started? In the beginning of the 20 century, it was caused by single man from almost ruined japanese publishing house. He was invented black capes and all the stuff. He saved his business and created the legend. So what WE know, is already a myth.Real medieval ninjas was not interested in advertising LOL

in which of your 4 lessons did you learn to grip?? lol I completely understand grip it's kind of important to hang on to sword this guy does "several" sword styles but is mainly japanese swordsmen he doesn't agree with what I do but can see what's the word?....skill and past your nonsense

@BlackShinobiShozoku understanding 8 not a scared little boy worried about getting cut, in short I don't fear the sword I respect it 9 far more advanced and harder to preform techniques concepts that I understand 10 i'm not an idiot you have 1 a sword 2 4 lessons (lol) 3 you're an idiot 4 uh...umm....NOTHING 5 unable to say how I am frudulent 6 a loser in life (and any argument about a sword) 7 a big mouth 8 poor teachings (?) learnings (?) 9 use japanese terms knowing I don't speak it

let me give you another quote "The fact that you don't have a teacher makes your video that more impressive" keep the promotions coming do a couple of more analysis vids of exaggerated mocking and stop and draw a line while i'm moving it's good for my subs=)

@ninjamixer I second everything that BlackShinobiShozoku said to you. If you want to avoid embarrassing yourself even more than you already have, I'd advise you to stay out of discussions involving more knowledgeable and more legitimate martial artists than yourself. Somebody like you who makes up his own training like a child pretending to be Bruce Lee has no place amongst real martial artists. You'll just make yourself look like a fool.

@BlackShinobiShozoku ""Stealing from Japanese culture for his own benefit."" How does he benefit from it? I suppose only through karma. : D

@DJayMutiny Again another person who has no idea what their talking about. There are many many people who have pointed ChosunNinja's fail at nearly everything he post. The rule here is if your going to lie do a good job. Maybe you should look up exposechosunninja before you speak.

ChosunNinja is　fake ninja ChosunNinja is liar ChosunNinja is Korean

@BlackShinobiShozoku such wise words from the wannabe (no sarcasm)

and zinc furniture

Thank you very much for the video, and exposing this fraud, when I might have otherwise not known of. The Ninjutsu community only needs legit people, not fakes.

lol kendo is a sport huh? sholin monks are circus preformers right? and you are a MA right? if you corrected your mistake or not (with help from internet) is not the point point is nothing screams inexperience louder then cutting toward lead leg then you try to use the excuse that swords are an auxilary and only go over it 2 a year now you are telling me you are inexperienced

and the reason you don't answer the kata question is because you don't know which one it is or understand it's purpose but guess what....I do bubba so what about that link?? =)

lol and how do you train if your busy commenting on every ones post what did this guy do to you lol? for you to be so defensive.

@BlackShinobiShozoku Would you just awnser my question? How do you STEAL culture? It is not my goal to become a ninja - I never wanted this. My goal is to be a better human being. And from that point of view: ChosonNinja is way better then for example you. Be humble and be honest. Don#t look down to others; try to help instead.

Hey ppl c'mon. Real ninja disappeared after the medieval war ended, bcuz spies no more needed by their country. After that,tradition was lost. But Greg can jump over the car, throw the surikens and do all the things like that, so he is more about ninjas then most of us. Stop killing the legend :))) p.s.I believe that hamon can't be aquired on the straight sword at all, because katana blade is tempered partially and it will bend anyway. I dont care, rly. Ninjutsu is a myph anyway :)

since he commented in PM I assume he doesn't want to get involved in your nonsense but I am sure he is what he says he is if I were looking for validation (as you so nievely suggest) that was it but i'm not so I must be showing skills (that you will never have) learned with no teacher =) now that's sunshine

and once again I do understand the concepts just don't much care

I have already said that but what you need to understand is 4 lessons is hardly a martial artist swordsmen make so that would mean (following logic) you're cosplaying last samurai in your parents backyard =) so I can accept that stop me if you heard this before what I do is BASED on MA dumb-dumb

cicus routines huh?? lol yes I did preform the kata without spinning you are a waste of oxygen and I did it with better form and power you will never be as apt as me with a sword and the only time I have been cut is during cleaning (the most dangerous part) but I can see how your inexperience would make you think that but to big boys it's not an issue

@glitchfiend yes ninjato are straight but in the day ninja used curved katana the ninjato became famous thru hollywood you are really asking the wrong person shozoku don't know anything about swords and should stop being a fraud

@BlackShinobiShozoku pay attention stupid the difference between me and you is this: (me) 1 the ability to wield a sword 2 the ability to wield 2 swords of different styles and weights 3 the ability of being able to step into a cut (maintaining balance and posture) 4 the ability of movement with 1 or 2 swords 5 proper cutting mechanics 6 not tied to tradition and able to explore the sword and my capabilities 6 able to figure this out without a teacher 7 able to try things far beyond your ...

you are the one playing while I am the one training forms and concepts from all sword arts and am not bound to the nonsense of a superior MA and make kick ass vids with skill you will never attain kepp playing tommy san

why are my comments getting blocked little boy?? having a temper tantrum????

watch?v=VgWM_NufDic I guess this guy is more ninja then greg

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and with my 0% understanding of a sword I can do 360% jumping cut in the air on a TREE and you swat at twigs cutting in the direction of your lead leg (keep pressure on the wound right?)will you atlest tell me how i'm a fraud?? (I know you can't) and you have the mentality of a jelly bean not a warrior

lol I just love how you avoid things and just try to "mud-sling" it's all you have left and yes all the things you see me preform (with skill) come from Chinese or Korean MA i'm even gonna put in a few japanese things that fit in with my skilled "antics" will you answer the questions?? NO because you are the joke buddy

@BlackShinobiShozoku Nonsense. I know martial artists that lie about tons of things. I even know a guy that bakes his bricks before doing his breaks. It's obvious that Gregg is an accomplished martial artist. Your logic is extremely poor. As for him being a liar, I don't really follow you. You're using your own understanding & applications of Japanese weapon technology to argue with a man who has a Japanese parent. That's just plain ridiculous.

He is claiming korean lineage which there is a historical evidence for but not connected to any japanese traditions. I am a practioner of korean martial arts and if you know any history of korea then you know the japanese tried to eradicate korean martial arts and culture. So copying Togakure Ryu / Bujinkan / or japanese anything is a great insult to korea and the korean people. Be proud of your heritage and stop infusing japanese ninjutsu model into your martial arts for monetary gain. Chosun ninja i have watched your videos and some of them make me shake my head, it's like your making up moves to seem like a ninja.... But you aren't. I would respect you more if you were truthful about your art Hapkido is awesome, Kuk Sool Won is very interesting if not questionable origins kinda like you. #Ahn yong haseo

I think your microphone is fake. Get a real one... its 2011. no excuses.

Um...wow. Even if his sword is fake, that makes him completley fraud? nothing useful or legitimate from him? and why do you care? you're wasting your time on something that has no effect on your life and your success or failure. I never liked my mom saying it but the old saying stands, "You don;t have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all." Your wasting your time on something that doesn't effect your life. Kind of like me right now...comenting and watching this video. lol. w/e.

lol I know why the sword is gripped that way but i'm not going to explain it to you for free ask your teacher besides I don't teach things on the internet especially when it comes to dangerous weapons youtube warriors like yourself may get hurt playong last samurai

@BlackShinobiShozoku and every comment you make reveals just how jealous you are that I can do such things with bravery and skill while you sit on a fence in your parents backyard staring off into the side of yoour neighbors house so very majestic like and choke on vid playing last samurai soundtrack .... did I say laughable joke?? =)

@BlackShinobiShozoku ""I have no respect for fraudulent people who steal culture and try to manipulate it. "" - quote from BlackShinobiShozoku How ist THAT even possible? How do you steal culture? This is really weird. xD You are desperate for attention. I think that you are offensive because of political reasons.

No peeks what's funny is who this guy is. Since you are the confirmed liar it is my word we will be taking here I have no reason to lie (unlike you)I don't tell fibs

again another instance of your little brain short circuting I understand everything I take from and build on it wushu spin is prime example 2mo. from attempt to doing it from different positioning and 2 swords nice try

well peeker it's not crisscross this is someone who is not involved with your guys choson crap nor do I care if anyone thinks you are harsh I don't see it as such I see it for what it is; you being a jealous little boy pissed off because you waste your time and money and I don't and show way more skill then you How am I a fraud???? hmmm?

Actually I did watch the video, as I already talked about it. I did google, I did say I didn't know the significance of hamon. Yeah, the hamon is probably etched. All you have proven is you are yet another person involved in MA, stuck on thinking you know what is correct. Which like alot of people on MA forums, makes you unfriendly, intolerant, and unable to talk about something openly. I feel you are correct. But that can be a limitation, ironically, in the long run for a martial artist..