Christensen Arms Ranger 22: Norma TAC-22, Subsonic, Match & Extreme LR

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5 ай бұрын

Christensen Arms replaced my Ranger 22. The factory target they sent with it at 50 yards showed amazing accuracy with Norma TAC22 ammunition. In this video I decided to try all of the brands of Norma
Norma TAC22 Black Box
Norma TAC22 Red Box
Norma TAC22 Subsonic
Norma Match 22
Norma Extreme LR
All test were conducted at 50 yards i n38degree weather with 11-13mph winds.
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@chuckglasser9683 5 ай бұрын

Range Fans, Range Fans! Love the energy. Good to hear you are feeling better.

@pitts3219 5 ай бұрын

For $850 cost of the Christiansen arms I’m buying a CZ 457 For less money and pinpoint accuracy

@ron8566 5 ай бұрын

Yeah, but good luck finding a CZ - nobody has any in stock.

@hsmallwood40 5 ай бұрын

@@ron8566 I've been seeing 457's at gun shows new and used

@josiahwright6590 5 ай бұрын

My christensen shoots 1/4 moa all day long without any modification or ejection issues, so I guess I'm just lucky.

@123joshmallett 5 ай бұрын

The ranger is not as much a benches shooter as it is a carry all day every day hunting rifle with the accuracy above most.

@daviddudley5895 8 күн бұрын

@@josiahwright6590all day long. Of course it does.

@gipflzipfla 5 ай бұрын

Range fans! Range fans! I love to hear that! And it's good to hear that you're feeling better! 👍 But: please do it with the straw. Just once, please 😄Thank you! Stay healthy! Greetings from Austria 🍻

@realtruth4259 5 ай бұрын

GR8 TO HAVE U HEALTHY AGAIN..... GOD BLESS U N THE FAMILY

@marktracht7782 5 ай бұрын

Glad to see you back on line and feeling better. Always enjoy your efforts.

@Dayattherange 5 ай бұрын

Thank you Mark

@6.5grendel11 5 ай бұрын

Good shooting Sarge. Glad to see you back!!

@SoFloPrecision 5 ай бұрын

Great video! Glad to see you back on the range, bud. I had similar results in my BMR with the Match-22 (0.57” AVG) and Tac-22 Subsonic (0.59” AVG). I’ve yet to try the new stuff. Hopefully soon.

@jefferymoyer4971 5 ай бұрын

Hope you are on the mend always look forward to your videos

@kevingoza 5 ай бұрын

Brother, with that wind, I believe your groups were excellent! That little projectile was being shoved around a lot on its way to the target. Nice job. Blessings!!

@Jeff-mv4yy 5 ай бұрын

No kidding , Mr Revolver guy shoots in the windiest conditions out of all the KZfaqrs I watch !

@nelhead4807 5 ай бұрын

My BMR does pretty good with the Norma match and it’s okay with tac-22. I’d really like to try their new offerings. Glad to see you back Big Fella.

@sjohnson1776 5 ай бұрын

Glad to see you back and healthy! I have a Ranger too. Out of the box new it wouldn't feed or eject reliably or hold a sub MOA group so I sent it back to Christensen no questions asked. Their customer service was excellent. They tuned it up for sure, fixed all the issues and bedded it. I have shot .2's and .3's five shot groups at 50 yards with premium ammo. Like yours, my cold bore shots are normally high and left. It also takes about 6 rounds to settle in when I switch ammo brands. Unlike Josh (ha ha ha) I'm not gonna be blowing on a straw so I'll live with the cold bore flier. I don't like the floppy bolt handle at all. Christensen said they were all like that (at least at that time). It shoots pretty well so I'll live with it. I took the Ruger 10 round mag apart and polished the feed ramps and reduced the spring tension so it feeds more smoothly. I can really feel a difference. I've had zero issues with those mags before or after I modified them. My Ranger absolutely HATES Norma Tac 22 black box. Hates it! That stuff shoots a pattern from my rifle, not a group. 🙂

@Dayattherange 5 ай бұрын

I will be trying it with different brands of ammo for sure.

@timsterrett2417 5 ай бұрын

Happy your happy and u and father are better nice shooting stay cool

@LONGRANGEPRECISIONSHOOTING 5 ай бұрын

Semper Fi brother. I went in at 17 years old MOS 0331. I am 65 now LOL

@_JimS 5 ай бұрын

Glad you're on the mend, didn't know you were down. I'm excited to get to the range and test my CZ 457MTD since I got the barrel back from 300 Below for a cryogenic treatment. Hopefully it will eliminate that cold barrel flier. Had my precision long range groundhog 40X rifle done years ago and it still drills. Like Josh, we both live in NC and the weather is up and down, temp wise, so hopefully the cryo will help. Great test, Thanks!

@h200z 5 ай бұрын

Good to see you back at it.. 😅

@chrislang5659 5 ай бұрын

Good shooting rifle!😮❤❤❤

@ericf4779 5 ай бұрын

Very happy to see you have bounced back and you are feeling better. Always enjoy your videos, very entertaining. You need one of those new fangled C1 Pro's with data on each of the ammo's you try. It may help figure out what works best and why you get a flier on occasion. Josh has a straw with your name on it to try out.

@Dayattherange 5 ай бұрын

You are just wrong Eric just wrong lol

@BlackArcher221 5 ай бұрын

You be killin’ me, don’t know how to leave the range. Hey you’re looking better as well. I’m into 2024 with a new .17 and having fun with it. Cheers

@Dayattherange 5 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Its the one thing I have to get over. My Daughter finally told me if you knew how to leave she would go more LOL

@Jdelta22nc 5 ай бұрын

I shot the new streams LR at 200 yards with the Bergara BMR and it did ok. Shot the new TAC22 with the Savage MarkII TR at 50 yards and it did well. Good to see you back.

@Jdelta22nc 5 ай бұрын

Tremendo LR

@Jdelta22nc 5 ай бұрын

Xtreme LR

@fletchdeeptv1958 5 ай бұрын

My ranger was also very ammo picky. It shoots decently with the black box Tac-22 and SK rifle match. Finally found that it really shoots the RWS special match well 0.3" 5 round groups pretty consistently. Took a lot of testing to finally find what it liked.

@Dayattherange 5 ай бұрын

Thank you

@daveramshead8029 5 ай бұрын

Interesting results Eli, thanks for sharing. I switched to tac22 last year as they were the best accuracy for reasonable cash although since the introduction of the long range / match versions, consistence has dropped in the current batches to the point where I will switch again. Early batches were chronographing at 1070 - 1080ish fps, but the latest batch is noticeably a lot quieter, I was shocked to see between 960 to 980 fps, which also calculated correct when rezeroed and cross checked with the 100yd extra moa which needed dialling in. I may be wrong its as though the brand was trying to steer you towards the newer more expensive versions.... Great to see you back on range!

@perdidocamaronero5400 5 ай бұрын

Trade that Norma in on some Lapua Center X. I have been reluctant to replenish my stock of Norma I have just about shot up what I have. Four different lot numbers one doesn't shoot good at all in my RimX. My old Matchmaster seems to like everything as long as it is subsonic. I have to be really loose on it to get a big flier, it has surprised me more than the RimX. My local shop still has some of the black box Tac but I'm not paying ten bucks a box for it I will stick with Norma Shooting USA when they have it in stock.

@Mrpocketprospecting 5 ай бұрын

We’ll the new barrel or gun now you have to test all over again!😁

@user-do9sm6xy4k 5 ай бұрын

Another great video Eli ! Glad to see You are better after the creeping crud bug and back on the trigger ! My limited experience with the new LR Extreme is similiar to yours..ok at fifty, but starts to come together at 100..been shooting it out of my beloved old Mossberg 44US..she seems to like it..43 grain cupped bullet might be the ticket...time will tell !

@Dayattherange 5 ай бұрын

So that there are no excuses let me get me best rifle and potentially borrow a vudoo and see how they do at 100 uh oh A Miracle or Train Wreck LOL

@stevenxindaris1477 5 ай бұрын

Glad to hear you and your dad are feeling better. My wife and I are getting over the same thing. Just thought I would pass on my observation on a Pac Nor premium match barrel I just got back from them in 22K Hornet that I had made from a custom reamer. I have a lot of custom barrels in my collection but none compare to the absolutely perfect bore of the PacNor. If it shoots as good as it looks I will be one happy camper.

@Dayattherange 5 ай бұрын

Oooooh nice let me know how it does good luck

@jw9424 5 ай бұрын

Would be interesting to have chrono data on the different ammo.

@CHenry1951 5 ай бұрын

DATR, welcome back................... It wants to shoot !!

@Dayattherange 5 ай бұрын

Thanks Brother

@lynnanderson2672 5 ай бұрын

Great video. I have Christensen ranger, and it really likes cci standard. You should give it a shot .

@Dayattherange 5 ай бұрын

I will do that

@tommykawasaki9676 5 ай бұрын

Nice shooting ! Beautiful rest 👍 That’s about as good as I can shoot my ranger on a calm day. My bolt handle is VERY loose. So loose, it could not have possibly left the shop unnoticed. I figured that must just be how they are. I don’t suspect it will shoot any better with a tight bolt handle. I will live with it.

@borocamo 2 ай бұрын

Just got one of these as a light weight option compared to my ruger precision when i feel like trecking around for varmits

@nunya1328 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video! If i didn't know what you were shooting and only seen the targets? I would have guessed Reminton Golden Bullets 😂😂😅 not good for Norma 😢 Super nice rifle! Thanks for finishing off with good ammo 😊

@Dayattherange 5 ай бұрын

I just shot them in order with no idea how it would finish out. Thanks for dropping by.

@ron8566 5 ай бұрын

Gals to see the Norma ammo shooting well for you. I find that it shoots as well, as Eley 10X and Eley Match. I’m also having great results with Wolf.

@johnisabeth2504 5 ай бұрын

I would take an educated guess that firearm manufacturers shoot many groups and pick the best.

@donniepowell7146 5 ай бұрын

The Norma 1083 fps shoots dang good in my 22s but the 1017 fps was a waste of money. I was shooting them in an Anschutz 54 sporter and a 10/22 with a Kidd barrel.

@johnutting9615 5 ай бұрын

Hi donniepowell a quick question for you what model is your Anschutz 54 sporter ? Thanks

@donniepowell7146 5 ай бұрын

Savage Anschutz Model 54 @@johnutting9615

@user-up8xj7qk6j 5 ай бұрын

Please do another video with the Winchester 52B . I'm looking to purchase 1, and with the details in your video reviews and being 100% authentic and honest about each bench test would help me make my mind up. Thank you sir and thank you for your service to our great country. 🇺🇸

@Dayattherange 5 ай бұрын

Is there anything you want to see specifically? I will tell you this don't contemplate to long on getting that 52B someone will surely steal right from under your feet if you wait to long.

@user-up8xj7qk6j 5 ай бұрын

@Dayattherange the trigger is my only fear. Can it be worked or is it what it is? The 1 I'm looking at is a true winchester 52b bull gun I hate to let it go over the trigger.

@Dayattherange 5 ай бұрын

@@user-up8xj7qk6j it can be but a TRUE gunsmith is recommended. Though there is one vendor that is making triggers I have it on my website. Drawing a blank right now as I am not at my desk to give you the name.

@user-up8xj7qk6j 5 ай бұрын

@Dayattherange I would absolutely 100% love the information on the aftermarket Trigger that would make a sale I believe on this winchester 52b for me.

@Dayattherange 5 ай бұрын

@@user-up8xj7qk6j lookup Canjar or Kenyon trigger mod. If you are unsure point me to wherr this great deal is and maybe you won't have to worry with it at all as I will take the trigger as is because they are adjustable.

@123joshmallett 5 ай бұрын

Mine loves cci small game. Give it a try!

@nathanphipps256 4 ай бұрын

Do you know if the action is threaded for the barrel like a rem 700 or slip fit like the ruger 10/22 ?

@Forester931 4 ай бұрын

I might have missed it but how far are ya shooting? I love my CAR22! I have been shooting norma tac and norma match but haven’t put on paper in awhile. I have metal gongs that i set up around 75 yards an are about 4”

@sekaf4125 4 ай бұрын

I was watching another video of a guy who bought 3 Christianson arms center fires . Had a lot of trouble with 2 of them. He said there was problems with QC at factory. He said they got some new employees hopefully rectifying the problem. I do think ts a good looking .22 rifle

@lazybear236 5 ай бұрын

The half inch group with regular Norma 22 was approximately one MOA. You meant promise of a half inch group at 50, right? Half moa would require no more than a quarter inch group at 50. I don't know of any 22 rifles that promise that out of the box.

@tenrec 7 күн бұрын

When your first shot is way off to the left, for example, do you compensate in your aim point for subsequent shots, or do you always aim for the same point on the target?

@sofjanmustopoh7232 5 ай бұрын

Christensen Arm drop major ball when they designed and manufactured this 22LR rifle . I would not get one after seeing your original video . A factory Ruger 10/22 LVT or LVT2.0 . Would shoot just the same with less money 😅. And I have 4 10/22 LVT

@Strutingeagle 5 ай бұрын

Watch your own video and you will see the bolt head is popping up but not as much as the other gun. When it pops up the shot is off usually but you got lucky with one group where the bolt wasn't popping up until the last shot and when it popped up the shot was within the group. I am not talking about the bolt handle but the front of the bolt.

@kevinsauer5794 5 ай бұрын

Must be nice. My first one was not repairable, so CA built me a new gun, and it took four months to get it all squared away. Still doesn't shoot as well as they say it does. I also received a target just like that, so I bought some Tac-22 and put the gun in a lead sled, and it won't shoot close to that.

@Dayattherange 5 ай бұрын

This is what make 22lr fun to me, it is the chase making sure you have the right lot of ammo.

@kevinsauer5794 5 ай бұрын

@Dayattherange I agree to a certain extent, but sending guns back that won't shoot and getting a second one that doesn't shoot is beyond ridiculous.

@Dayattherange 5 ай бұрын

@@kevinsauer5794 I think you misunderstand my point. 22 is very specific this rifle may not like this lot of ammo. I have seen a 4k rifle shoot high quality Olympic type ammo like crap only to shoot cheap Aquila 1hole.

@johnhermsen6456 5 ай бұрын

Last groep you talk to long between first shoot was cold bore because the order 4 are good . Happy you are better now

@GTMGunTotinMinnesotan 5 ай бұрын

I used to have a lot of success with the tac-22 black box, but the new red box QC seems quite low and the wax changed for sure. I've been comparing sd's and I'm sad that the new red box is more expensive and less accurate in each rifle I try it in.

@JimE6243 5 ай бұрын

Turnaround time of four days you say. My Ranger also has four letters and four numbers and had a loose bolt handle. It took 8 weeks and a call to the local distributor to get mine back. Then they would only ship to a FFL so it cost me another $30 to get my own gun back! Everyone else shipped warranty repairs back to my residence. Is it accurate? My Tikka T1x and Bergara B14r will shoot circles around it. Would I buy another CA rifle? Sure would not be close to the top of my list. I don't mine having a warranty issue but I expect the company to answer the phone, send it back in a timely manner the way I shipped it to them and not to have to get their distributor involved.

@Dayattherange 5 ай бұрын

Jim sorry to hear about your experience, all I can do is speak to my experience and I don't think it had nothing to do with youtube as I am a nobody in this world.

@JimE6243 5 ай бұрын

@@Dayattherange Keep the content coming Eli! Always enjoy them, the narration and the dedication. JimE

@davepoidvin2364 5 ай бұрын

If I may suggest, your shooting position is not optimal. The cutout in the table, to your left, if you enter it, you will have a better and more spacious platform to shoot from. Cushions under the elbows may also help you be more comfortable. I personally found this to be beneficial. All the best, Dave & The Girls.

@bisleyblackhawk1288 5 ай бұрын

👍👍👍🤘🤘🤘🤩🤩🤩

@michealsmith4465 5 ай бұрын

From what I seen I will stay with my 250.00 savage mk ll

@Hazzbro1964 5 ай бұрын

Need to use the barrel prophylactic or less than manly straw like Josh 😎🙄🤣 Great to see you back full strength!

@Dayattherange 5 ай бұрын

You killing me brother

@Hazzbro1964 5 ай бұрын

Laughter is the best medicine, just doing my part for your health 🤣 Keep up the great work!

@garygates5679 5 ай бұрын

BROTHER .. !!! YOU CANT DO LIKE OTHERS... !!!!!! """ YOUR A MARINE """...!!!!!

@Dayattherange 5 ай бұрын

GB thanks brother.

@garygates5679 5 ай бұрын

@@Dayattherange LOVE YOUR CHANNEL ...! ! !

@hsmallwood40 5 ай бұрын

none of my lr. bench gùns like Norma brand. i might as well shoot it with a scatter gùn lol

@Dayattherange 5 ай бұрын

I have never watched anyone shoot a shotgun from the bench lol.

@hsmallwood40 5 ай бұрын

@@Dayattherange wise a$$ 🤣🤣🤣 well let me grab my M12 and some Morma. an I'll show you how it's done lol

@Dayattherange 5 ай бұрын

@@hsmallwood40 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@philliplatham4256 5 ай бұрын

👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸💯💯🔫🔫☕️☕️

@johnhermsen6456 5 ай бұрын

Better keep your barrel hot😂😂😂

@ronmartblog 5 ай бұрын

Good job but I’ve gotta say I’m not impressed with that Christiansen Arms - might be time to cut your losses and go enjoy your rifles that can shoot. If you want to try to save it then maybe a trigger shim might help, but I won’t hold my breath

@Dayattherange 5 ай бұрын

Ron hey buddy I am wondering about bedding. But I do want to try different brands of ammo.

@ronmartblog 5 ай бұрын

@@Dayattherange Yeah, there’s definitely plenty of ammos to try. It’ll be interesting to see if you find find one that runs.

@billwiley7216 5 ай бұрын

Where I lost faith in these being normal results for the average customer is when you said they watched some of your videos then decided to replace the gun. Now it may seem harsh but I would tend to guess that you definitely got a cherrypicked best of the best example sent to you as they knew there would be videos done featuring this new replacement rifle. Also you mention a 4 day turn around time and their is a poster in the comments saying it took him like 4 months! Not knocking you or the gun but I would not immediately jump up and buy one thinking they have their commonly reported lackluster across the board accuracy issues squared away. I do like seeing more manufacturers using the same magazines as in this case the 10/22 mags as many brands of magazines are getting rather pricey and if you can share magazines among several brands helps with the expense of adding a new rifle to the stable.

@Dayattherange 5 ай бұрын

Understand your points and noticed that post. I honestly do not think my presence on youtube had anything to do with it as a pebble thrown into the Atlantic Ocean will make more noise than I do with my humble channel. Its people like you in the comments is the reason I do it. I may not have put that across just right. As I was emailing them and because I can be challenged with patience the very net day calling them. When they emailed me back about getting the rifle back, I felt like I might be doubted and included a list of video's I had done with many different brands of ammo. I am defending them some what yes and will admit to that as the only bias you will find on this channel is to Family Owned American Companies.

@billwiley7216 5 ай бұрын

@@Dayattherange Do not sell yourself short and I think your videos have a lot more influence than you are giving yourself credit for. It still does not change my position of with you being a you-tuber that will make videos concerning your CS experience and performance of the said replacement rifle that you perhaps received expedited service and response along with a hand chosen best possible replacement perhaps not aligning with the average customers experience. I as well always will be rooting for the little guy home grown companies but at the same time they do have to be held to the same quality and customer service standards for ALL of their customers as the other guys as well. Love your content and attitude in general. But as far as this rifle I think you have been given an example that will make the brand shine which it is nice to see that is possible as well. But for the average guys experience you would need now to just buy a 2nd new example off of a dealers shelf and lets see how another example out of the box fared accuracy wise, whether it was more like the original gun that was sent back or what I call the cherry picked replacement. How's that for a challenge for Day at the Range?😁

@battlerivercustoms3600 5 ай бұрын

I bought this rifle and it was one of the worst rifles I've owned. Problems feeding and extracting. And the accuracy sucked

@michaelcunningham6641 5 ай бұрын

those carbon wrapped barrels SUCK...so inconsistant

@johnmorrow5085 5 ай бұрын

Nothing consistent about that rifle!!

@chucker2571 5 ай бұрын

Ranger 22s don't shoot. I have never seen one capable of match accuracy. 50 yard groups should be a ragged hole. Sell the rifle, it will waste any ammo you shoot through it. Norma's ammo is very disappointing due to high SD numbers. There Extreme Long Range ammo is all marketing and its performance doesn't live up to the hype. Don't mean to be a wet blanket just disappointed in some of our suppliers. Keep your powder dry.