Church steeple collapse | caught on video and simulated in 3d

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Mike Bell

Mike Bell

3 ай бұрын

The church steeple of of the First Congregational Church in New London, CT, collapsed at 1:30pm on Thursday Jan 25, 2024. The building is owned by The Engaging Heaven Church. This church was completed in 1853 after the previous church burnt down. The architect rejected the construction of the spire and said the only solution was for it to be rebuilt. This did not happen and it turned out to be a 170 ticking time bomb. With frame by frame alignment of the 3d model to footage of the collapse captured on security camera the motion of the steeple during the collapse has been simulated.

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@dbaider9467
@dbaider9467 3 ай бұрын
This was analyzed almost as fast as it fell. Kudos.
@patmcbride9853
@patmcbride9853 3 ай бұрын
We need to start analyzing collapses before they happen.
@davidaugustofc2574
@davidaugustofc2574 3 ай бұрын
💀
@ollllj
@ollllj 3 ай бұрын
ur was slowly falling since 1952
@J6A6Y
@J6A6Y 3 ай бұрын
Hi! Current New London resident here. The slight tilt was definitely a thing for as long as I've lived here. There was some discussion about an increase in tilt in the weeks leading up to the collapse. While it was not overly windy that day it is windy in general as we are right on the ocean. Also, another factor to add in was the snow, sleet and rain we received. The night before the collapse there was freezing rain through the night.
@DonnaChamberson
@DonnaChamberson 3 ай бұрын
I think it’s despicable that the town just let it fall down.
@johncamara3497
@johncamara3497 3 ай бұрын
There was also a lot of rain that fell all through December and January that may have been a contributing factor. I copied an observed weather data report (see below) for Hartford, CT for January 26 and you can see from Jan 1 there was 7.31 inches of rain where as normal is 2.79. And since Dec 1 there was 15.35 and the normal is 6.87 or > 2.2x normal. The ground has been heavily saturated for at least the last 6 months. If I remember correctly we started the first few months with below normal precipitation but then for the rest of the year we had well above average with a couple periods of major flooding. I believe we ended last year 18 inches over normal. ...THE HARTFORD CT CLIMATE SUMMARY FOR JANUARY 26 2024... VALID TODAY AS OF 0400 PM LOCAL TIME. CLIMATE NORMAL PERIOD 1991 TO 2020 CLIMATE RECORD PERIOD 1904 TO 2024 WEATHER ITEM OBSERVED TIME RECORD YEAR NORMAL DEPARTURE LAST VALUE (LST) VALUE VALUE FROM YEAR NORMAL ................................................................... TEMPERATURE (F) TODAY MAXIMUM 43 1244 AM 65 1950 35 8 47 MINIMUM 37 726 AM -8 1948 18 19 35 AVERAGE 40 26 14 41 PRECIPITATION (IN) TODAY 0.67 2.00 1986 0.11 0.56 0.78 MONTH TO DATE 7.31 2.79 4.52 5.81 SINCE DEC 1 15.35 6.87 8.48 10.31 SINCE JAN 1 7.31 2.79 4.52 5.81
@jwalster9412
@jwalster9412 3 ай бұрын
​@@DonnaChambersonit would have been as expensive as anything, to assess and fix the issue.
@Lunth-yl2mk
@Lunth-yl2mk 3 ай бұрын
@@jwalster9412 Yes well now the possible lawsuits could cost more. Peoples lives were put in danger - essentially, due to negligence. But hey, we'll see.
@sebastiaodavila9747
@sebastiaodavila9747 3 ай бұрын
Belgian here (we have a lot of beautiful churches in Belgium) I think it's very saddening. I mean, it's not an exaggeration to say that it was a beautiful church. Perhaps not the most complex architectural style of all time but I think the shape of the spire was pretty.
@loopwithers
@loopwithers 3 ай бұрын
I am restoring a French barn dating from around 1700. Its roof had already partially collapsed. Through watching your video, I have gained much valuable structural loading information and I am grateful to you for taking your time to upload this video. I really appreciate your efforts.
@PhilJonesIII
@PhilJonesIII 3 ай бұрын
Good luck with the work. I did the same for a similarly aged building in the French Alps. No stranger to renovation but those meter thick stone walls (interior and exterior) I left to the experts.
@loopwithers
@loopwithers 3 ай бұрын
@@PhilJonesIII Ha! Thanks. I know the feeling. I quite enjoy doing the stonework but the cats cradle of repaired rafters and trusses above my head does add a frisson of excitement I'd rather not have...
@SofaKingShit
@SofaKingShit 2 ай бұрын
Doing structurally significant work while learning as you go from You Tube videos is always a great idea. Why get in expensive builders or electricians when anyone with half a brain can do their job. What could possibly go wrong.
@PhilJonesIII
@PhilJonesIII 2 ай бұрын
@@SofaKingShit I did the work when the word 'KZfaq' might have been considered a euphemism. You are right though. Translating 'knowing how' into 'doing' is a step taken with caution. Professional workers also have a little thing called 'insurance' so, if the unexpected happens, you are covered.
@Snitram19
@Snitram19 23 күн бұрын
That's not worrisome at all, you learned valuable infornation for your barn roof restoration project from some random youtube video... I wouldn't enter your barn, that I can tell you for sure.
@RonSkurat
@RonSkurat 3 ай бұрын
excellent work, thank you. I used to live in New London, and the one degree tilt was widely known. Unfortunately as these congregations dwindled there was no funding for maintenance, and we don't have a National Trust to take up the slack. There's a similar but younger church building up the hill from this one - one hopes that it gets the attention that it deserves.
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Ron for again confirming local were aware of the tilt. It does seem like a failure at multiple levels. Buildings cant look after themselves...
@charleswhite758
@charleswhite758 3 ай бұрын
Sad, Trudeau doesn’t care about the Christian heritage of Canada. Yup, heritage, who would bother going to church anymore with the new crazy Woke bishops?
@RollercoastersatWales
@RollercoastersatWales 3 ай бұрын
Already a video? Wow! The efficiency and quality of videos without the need for a subscription, thank you so much for making content for us Mike, your dedication deserves more appreciation.
@HelloKittyFanMan
@HelloKittyFanMan 3 ай бұрын
Ya might as well subscribe to him anyway, since it's free and then you might get better notified.
@Mandy7D7
@Mandy7D7 3 ай бұрын
Subscribing does nothing but good things for the creator and doesn't cost you a thing. Supporting creators helps them continue to grow & create.
@RollercoastersatWales
@RollercoastersatWales 3 ай бұрын
Did you think I’d post this comment without subscribing?
@HelloKittyFanMan
@HelloKittyFanMan 3 ай бұрын
Yes, @@RollercoastersatWales, I did think that, actually. A lot of people do that. Nothing wrong with that, of course; we just suggested the subscription along with it. No big deal either way, of course.
@gaborbata8588
@gaborbata8588 3 ай бұрын
The modeling really complements the commentary; more evidence, less speculation. Nice.
@johnvenier4011
@johnvenier4011 3 ай бұрын
Wow, such great analysis so quickly! Thanks!
@joemcorbett
@joemcorbett 3 ай бұрын
I would guess water infiltration and ice expansion compromised the tower at the flashing where the tower met the church roof.IMO
@MmmmDatAss
@MmmmDatAss 3 ай бұрын
I'm guessing water damage as well. It's also possible acidity of rain from pollution could have contributed over time. Things like this take a long time usually to develop. This has probably been slowly progressing towards failure for decades.
@charleswhite758
@charleswhite758 3 ай бұрын
Mortar washed out?
@lorettavanhaasteren2776
@lorettavanhaasteren2776 3 ай бұрын
Very easy to follow and understand! Thanks! 👍🏻
@richardmcleod1930
@richardmcleod1930 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the first video explaining what really happened at this very Historic Church. Unfortunately unlike Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris, this Church will not be restored.
@hypsyzygy506
@hypsyzygy506 3 ай бұрын
Development plot is more valuable.
@richardmcleod1930
@richardmcleod1930 3 ай бұрын
Seems such thinking is typical especially in the United States of America. I wish we were more Historically oriented and appreciated our past in buildings than is the case where we just tear them down. Those towers could have been saved and used in another building.@@hypsyzygy506
@TheTeddyGuy28
@TheTeddyGuy28 3 ай бұрын
Wow, quick post from when this happened! Great video as always.
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 3 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@fu2201
@fu2201 3 ай бұрын
They should have kept the smaller towers. Thanks for your work Mike
@richardmcleod1930
@richardmcleod1930 3 ай бұрын
I felt the same way. the existing towers should have been kept.
@HelpICantThinkOfACleverName
@HelpICantThinkOfACleverName 3 ай бұрын
Agreed.
@richardmcleod1930
@richardmcleod1930 3 ай бұрын
In France, Notre Dame Cathedral was completely restored. A much bigger church building. The towers could have been kept if they truly cared for the History of the building. It will be interesting to see what the lot is eventually used for?@@HelpICantThinkOfACleverName
@kurthoelter3495
@kurthoelter3495 3 ай бұрын
thanks for the detailed look at the collapse. as a restorationist and mason, now in my mid 70s, ive seen many off vertical structures, and many seem to have several things in common. (in cold climates) you will invariably find that a tower or chimney will lean toward the body of the building. in the case of chimneys on each end of the building, they will lean in opposite directions, ie toward each other to effect this lean toward the main structure. one theory of mine is that rising heat in winter from the building and roof softens the mortar on the building side of the structure, while the cold and freezing temps act on the mortar essentially lifting the exterior side. these tiny increments accumulate with time becoming permanent. also many budget repointings on soft stone buildings were done using a portaland base which is too hard for the expansion and contraction the stone goes through. this to some degree limits settling and movement on the sides where it is used. only a high lime mortar should be used on the lime based stones which this appears to be. also if the back was south facing the sun on that face in winter would have played a part. regards and best, k
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 3 ай бұрын
Hi Kurt Thanks for your comment. It is interesting what you say. Thses were granite stones.
@alainaaugust1932
@alainaaugust1932 3 ай бұрын
Makes sense. States with their building inspection laws should have laws requiring special inspections for 100, 100+ year old public buildings. We’re 247 years old now-never had to worry about old stone buildings before. Time to start.
@kurthoelter3495
@kurthoelter3495 3 ай бұрын
a further example comes to mind, ask any northern farmer which way his fence posts lean after a decade and he will tell you they go south, toward the sun or heat. dealt with it myself for 46 years at my ny farm.@@Mike-Bell
@hypsyzygy506
@hypsyzygy506 3 ай бұрын
Freeze/thaw damage would presumably be greater on the side nearer the heat source (eg a facade facing the sun, or the heat from an occupied building) as every day that would thaw what had frozen the previous night. Joints not exposed to daily heat would freeze and remain frozen for the winter.
@kurthoelter3495
@kurthoelter3495 3 ай бұрын
am stating what i have observed from 50 years of masonry and restoration work. while your opinion or theory makes sense, it does not prove out in the real world. was not talking to freeze damage, but to the tilt and eventual collapse of a masonry structure in freezing climates.@@hypsyzygy506
@pcno2832
@pcno2832 3 ай бұрын
From what I heard, the architect complained that the wythes (inner and outer layers) of stone were not tied together properly, and suggested the steeple tower be taken down and rebuilt. Instead, metal rods ending in square plates were installed to pull the wythes together. That held for 170 years; not bad, considering the circumstances.
@sandis52
@sandis52 3 ай бұрын
Finally a new video from you!
@jimterryh1983
@jimterryh1983 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your insights into that collapse.
@cosmefulanito5933
@cosmefulanito5933 3 ай бұрын
It is sad how buildings fall down due to lack of maintenance in underdeveloped countries, like the United States.
@hpruijs
@hpruijs 3 ай бұрын
That is why most episodes of, for instance, Massive Engineering Mistakes cover incidents in the United States, I'm afraid. Love your classification as an underdeveloped country, priceless!
@martentrudeau6948
@martentrudeau6948 3 ай бұрын
A great presentation Mike Bell that shows from a professional point of view of what happened. That was powerful graphically well done.
@Kagarine54
@Kagarine54 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for giving your time to publish such an interesting analysis ! I'm not even an Architect, Engineer nor a citizen of New London, but I love learning random fascinating things from around the world. Very educational 🙂
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@feraynironmane8101
@feraynironmane8101 2 ай бұрын
TL;DR: Don't ignore an architect's suggestions. Absolutely great analysis.
@billglenney8252
@billglenney8252 Ай бұрын
Great video Mike! Kudos from CT, I live a town over from New London. Btw I visited South Africa for the World Cup in 2010, you have a beautiful country!
@r0ckt3hc4sb4h
@r0ckt3hc4sb4h 3 ай бұрын
Great analysis. It makes one wonder if the tower could have been retrofitted with some internal support structure, to transfer the steeple load directly into the ground.
@abpccpba
@abpccpba 3 ай бұрын
Great job Thanks
@johncamp2567
@johncamp2567 3 ай бұрын
A remarkable presentation!! 😯(new subscriber, Virginia)
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 3 ай бұрын
Thanks and welcome
@schitthe
@schitthe 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this great explanation! Best regards from Germany
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Greetings from South Africa!
@deanberolzheimer2658
@deanberolzheimer2658 3 ай бұрын
Wow Mike, thank you, super intereting as usual !
@deanberolzheimer2658
@deanberolzheimer2658 3 ай бұрын
and interesting too!
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@furripupau
@furripupau 3 ай бұрын
I was looking at photos of the church on flickr, and found one from 2012, taken from a distance (so less liable to be distorted by perspective) which when measured shows the steeple leaning back at an angle of 1.45 degrees (measured against the flanking towers). Looking at several other photos, the right wall of the steeple (when viewing the front of the building) shows a perceptible concavity at about where the steeple joins the roof.
@MmmmDatAss
@MmmmDatAss 3 ай бұрын
This collapse has likely been slowly in the making for decades.
@HyenaBlank
@HyenaBlank 3 ай бұрын
@@MmmmDatAss Often how it goes, either overlooked, dismissed, or just no budget to even address it. And then it's too late.
@sfdntk
@sfdntk 3 ай бұрын
I'd really love to see your 3D workflow, is there any chance of you recording a session where you model a scene like this and then do your frame by frame analysis to match the model motion to a source video? Doesn't need to be a properly edited video, just a raw stream of you working would be utterly fascinating.
@Robspranjer9740
@Robspranjer9740 3 ай бұрын
An 1853 historic landmark that no one tried to save?! Now it is gone, so sad
@SB5SimulationsFerroviairesEEP
@SB5SimulationsFerroviairesEEP 3 ай бұрын
Merci du partage! Stéph.
@Killerean
@Killerean 3 ай бұрын
My guess would be that the binding of the tower gave at some point. The whole thing was tied up with metal bars since the tower was built poorly right from the start. My guess would be one of the end plates on the bars holding the thing together was either snapped off or was pulled in to the wall. That would leave the walls with no support, allowing them to expand and collapse.
@parrotraiser6541
@parrotraiser6541 3 ай бұрын
Extraordinary luck that there was only one person inside, and she escaped injury. The mess in the interior suggests that had a service been in progress, casualties would have been horrendous. The stone slide at the front could have killed anyone passing at the time, too. Just after lunch on a weekday might well have had passers-by.
@MmmmDatAss
@MmmmDatAss 3 ай бұрын
That's the craziness of the chaos of life. A few birds or a slight change in earth loading or any number of tiny little factors could have altered the timing and caused a lot of death, but this time it didn't. It takes a lot of mistakes for an issue like this to make it to the point of collapse too. I think humans seem to think that things like this just don't happen, but they do.
@hypsyzygy506
@hypsyzygy506 3 ай бұрын
Apparently the survivor was in an office in the 1970s extension at the rear, not in the church itself.
@0hellow797
@0hellow797 3 ай бұрын
Wow, amazing and extremely interesting. Definitely following for more :)))
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 3 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@sue_downing555
@sue_downing555 3 ай бұрын
excellent analysis and vid proof thanks for sharing
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 3 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@thelegendinhisownmind7038
@thelegendinhisownmind7038 3 ай бұрын
I live in Southeast CT, about 15 minutes from New London. This was a terrible shame.
@eltamarindo
@eltamarindo 3 ай бұрын
In images of the steeple before it collapsed, if you look closely, you can see that the steeple is studded with steel bolts and cross tie reinforcements designed to keep the lower front section of the wall from bowing out. The 2011 engineer's report essentially dodges the subject of earlier stabilization efforts, other than noting that repairs had been conducted previously and that "These corrective actions appear effective, as by all visible accounts, the tower is structurally sound." A question that I might have is whether the same level of concern was given to all faces of the tower? -- or whether over the years, more concern had been given to inspecting, bracing, and grouting the exposed stonework and rather less attention was given to the interior facing sides of the wall that may have been hidden behind plaster?
@maudessen573
@maudessen573 3 ай бұрын
Thanks, Mike! I had no idea a church steeple for any church was constructed of stone up to the very top. What a lot of weight and force, and how expensive to maintain! Where I live, there are so many churches in neighborhoods that cannot afford to maintain them that most have had their steeples removed. And they were framed and clad, not made of stone. The cost to lower this 150’ steeple would have been very high…I doubt the congregation could have afforded it. In the US, we don’t have federal assistance in maintaining privately owned historic buildings.
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 3 ай бұрын
Hi Maud The previous congregation could not afford the upkeep and sold the building in 2015 to the current church. But its a cost and responsibility they can’t carry. It’s so sad that god doesn’t chip in 😆
@EpixAndroid
@EpixAndroid 3 ай бұрын
Oddly enough, the congregation that owns the building had been fasting and praying for nearly 3 weeks for a “breakthrough”. I guess that answers their prayers then…
@DrTheRich
@DrTheRich 3 ай бұрын
@@Mike-Bell You could say he did in a way, because this could have been a catastrophe if this happened while people were inside..
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 3 ай бұрын
@@DrTheRich I think it just boils down to probability with the church only being occupied 5% of the time.
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 3 ай бұрын
@@EpixAndroid It would be interesting to know how they interpret their breakthrough…
@arailway8809
@arailway8809 3 ай бұрын
Very nice work. Thanks
@theemissary1313
@theemissary1313 3 ай бұрын
Shame when old buildings fall. Looks like the tip of the fallen steeple landed JUST in front of that car parked behind the adjacent building. Still caked in dust that could have damaged it, but still pretty lucky, especially the woman inside the church at the time. Excellent work on the video by the way!
@Gggggggggg7772
@Gggggggggg7772 3 ай бұрын
Amazing analysis!
@465maltbie
@465maltbie 3 ай бұрын
That was a wonderful description, amazing you could get that all from Google Maps and use it like you did. Charles
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 3 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@mtnman1984
@mtnman1984 3 ай бұрын
Was the backside of that heavy steeple supported by the roof structure and not built like the facade with a base to the ground?
@rassuntv
@rassuntv 3 ай бұрын
Great video as always. But tell me, how were you able to export the Google Earth map into Blender? How to do this?
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 3 ай бұрын
Hi. It takes a couple of steps described in this video. If you have 2 monitors you will need to do everything in one screen for it to work and it must be the primary monitor. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fMWIptCgv7DRd2w.html
@petermacander5039
@petermacander5039 3 ай бұрын
The steeple leaned over and fell in the direction in which it was deviated from its center of gravity, just like a heavy leaded organ pipe collapses off its weight after many years when it is not standing vertically at the center of its axis of its gravitational pull. It begins to lean when it is deviated off-center from its center of gravity. The longer it leans the increasingly more off-center the lean becomes with time. If, in addition, if the tower lacks the underlying vertical support on the side of the roof to counteract the off-center lean, it will reach a point at which the weight of the progressively leaning tower is so far shifted from the tower's center of gravity that the tower will fall, collapsing of its own weight. This tower was likely "top heavy" due to the stone construction of its steeple, but had the steeple been built of wood, the collapse could have eventually occurred. There may have been inadequate vertical foundational structural support for the weight of the tower from the nave side of the church. One must also consider that the foundational support inside and under the church may have shifted or been inadequate to maintain upward vertical support required to maintain the tower's vertical position on its center of gravity. Ultimately, what happened here: Progressive inward lean off-center of gravity + gravity = collapse when limits of off-axis weight shift were exceeded. Simple physics. Gravity exists.
@rustymotor
@rustymotor 3 ай бұрын
Great content! Luckily that Woman was not injured once the trouble started.
@Thanos_Kyriakopoulos
@Thanos_Kyriakopoulos 3 ай бұрын
That's why the lean in the church must be corrected early even if it seems slight.
@lindseydejesus1877
@lindseydejesus1877 3 ай бұрын
sad to hear such a beautiful building fell and will be demolished. thanks for the analysis
@alanagnew3451
@alanagnew3451 3 ай бұрын
Beautiful to men that building was, but it was disgusting to God. He doesn't want people worshiping in "church" where do you find that in the Bible?
@DrTheRich
@DrTheRich 3 ай бұрын
@@alanagnew3451 He also doesn't want people to not worship in a church lol... Where do you find that in the bible... Maybe you're the secret last prophet that knows what God finds disgusting or not?? Can you read Gods mind? or maybe you're a false one? who's to tell, only he knows...
@alanagnew3451
@alanagnew3451 3 ай бұрын
@@DrTheRich The best kings of Judah were the ones that tore down the high places so that you may only worship in the Temple of Solomon, as God commanded. But if you want to scoff more, go for it, miss out on learning.
@DrTheRich
@DrTheRich 3 ай бұрын
@@alanagnew3451 Ah yes, you mean that Temple of Solomon that got destroyed because of the sins of the children of Judah... You pretend to know the bible, yet you add your own meanings to things. Every time these high places were destroyed, it was because the people were worshipping someone or something else there instead of God (for example the snake staff of Mozes, Baal or Moloch). There is no example in the bible of God having a place of prayer destroyed that was specifically dedicated to praying to him. Secondly, the covenant of sacrifice and worship was only made by the children of Israel and their descendants. Why should non-Israelites be held to a promise they never made? Hypocrites like you have made my question my religion over and over. Every time i see people making up rules that were never in the bible, and then judging others based on those false believes. You believe yourself so wise, and more knowledgeable, and closer to understanding God than anyone else. You feel yourself so great that you gave yourself the right to judge others, just like a false prophet would do. The ones warned about many times. It disgusts me.
@pawelzielinski1398
@pawelzielinski1398 3 ай бұрын
@@alanagnew3451 Yeah, sure go to iSSrael to do the worshiping you sick fuck!
@oldbird-zm8qt
@oldbird-zm8qt 3 ай бұрын
Very interesting. Thank you,
@karldubhe8619
@karldubhe8619 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this.
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 3 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@tolbaszy8067
@tolbaszy8067 3 ай бұрын
7:30 Obviously, the clock faces were out of sync. This discrepancy would cause extreme temporal torque that imbalanced the load bearing symmetry of the clock section and made the belfry develop harmonics incompatible with verticality. Many old barns were torqued into the ground by slate roofing and compact hay bales densely packed in hay lofts designed for loose hay. The stone steeple probably was the cause of the failure. Great video! Thanks!
@billhosko7723
@billhosko7723 3 ай бұрын
Good grief. Plenty of stone steeples in UK. Lack of maintenance, not this building having a stone steeple.
@tolbaszy8067
@tolbaszy8067 3 ай бұрын
Are they designed similarly- with voids for clocks and bells at the transition of roof and steeple? There is a hinge here.@@billhosko7723
@hypsyzygy506
@hypsyzygy506 3 ай бұрын
Going up you generally have entrance, ringing chamber, clock chamber, bells, steeple. You're not going to waste space.
@zackjay71
@zackjay71 Ай бұрын
@@billhosko7723from its beginning the original Architect wanted it torn down and redone
@parttime9070
@parttime9070 3 ай бұрын
22' is a lot for that kind of stone building.. Good work with this video..
@jasons8479
@jasons8479 3 ай бұрын
I believe it was 22" not 22'. Still a significant amount.
@AlexxForest
@AlexxForest 3 ай бұрын
A bit of a shame the rest of the building couldn't be salvaged and repaired. I'm not religious, but I do still feel bad when things like this happen.
@Greippi10
@Greippi10 2 ай бұрын
I can understand not having the funds to maintain the building, but to think it was was not closed to people is shocking!
@peteralthoff6920
@peteralthoff6920 2 ай бұрын
Unbelievable, did they still ring the bells? The effects of this large swinging/oscillating mass and the resonance effects when ringing are often underestimated.
@petermacander5039
@petermacander5039 3 ай бұрын
YOUR description of the sagging roof on one side of the nave aspect of the church should not necessarily affect the tower and spire (but rather the roof itself) if the tower had adequate foundational vertical support itself.
@jam96attnet
@jam96attnet 3 ай бұрын
#MikeBell : there is a video which shows two years ago a quote for roof air conditioning units. This, if actually installed, I would speculate the position of the easiest venting into the roof of the church would place the AC/Heating unit in the exact position you hypothesized the start of the collapse originated from. Did they in recent time add weight?
@DougGrinbergs
@DougGrinbergs 3 ай бұрын
Good info👍 sad story☹️
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Doug 👍
@petermacander5039
@petermacander5039 3 ай бұрын
The tower (belfry) and steeple are leaning. If there was roof damage where it connects to the tower, it is possible that over time water damage with frost weakened the tower structure resulting in increased inward leaning. Your simulation appears to indicate this as the increase in deviation from the vertical of 1--->6 degrees is associated with a collapse of support on the nave side of the tower where it meets the nave roof below the belfry..
@channelsixtyeight068_
@channelsixtyeight068_ 3 ай бұрын
The collapse was largely self-contained, so no harm done.
@beardy4831
@beardy4831 3 ай бұрын
I'm suspicious the original mortar was not adequately batched on the one side, using too much sand or perhaps dirty sand. That in combination with acid within rain would over time degrade the mortar. You end up with a honeycomb like structure, similar to a loaf of bread, as the sand remains. Eventually the weight crushes the honeycomb structured sand and the whole tower is off balance.
@chrisdaniels3929
@chrisdaniels3929 3 ай бұрын
I imagine if poor maintenance were to cause problems such as rotted roof beams near the tower, then the lean could preclude the first choice for remedying it. Whilst the building isn't very old the defect is a weakness that seems to have taken a toll over time. The building is gone after other things also went wrong. Strangely the missing steeple brought out the beauty of the adjacent 2 side towers. They look like the romans could have built them at town gates lol. I can't help but think these old buildings are a money pit.
@Phantom_kz
@Phantom_kz 13 күн бұрын
Good afternoon! What is the name of this simulation program?
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 12 күн бұрын
It is Blender
@stabojert
@stabojert 3 ай бұрын
Very interesting video, but the "s" sound is very very sharp and unpleasant. You should try an equalizer or de-esser. Leaning tower of Suurhusen still standing strong :)
@emdxemdx
@emdxemdx 3 ай бұрын
The Christ Church Cathedral in Montréal also had a steeple completely built of stone, and it was far too heavy and eventually, it was rebuilt with an aluminium structure in 1939. In the late 1980’s, a shopping mall was built underneath the cathedral. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_Church_Cathedral_(Montreal)
@patmcbride9853
@patmcbride9853 3 ай бұрын
Never leave the safety of your structure up to God.
@alainaaugust1932
@alainaaugust1932 3 ай бұрын
Or, God helps those who help themselves with building inspections.
@patmcbride9853
@patmcbride9853 3 ай бұрын
@@alainaaugust1932 He gave you a brain, but you have to actually use it.
@EmilyTienne
@EmilyTienne 3 ай бұрын
Is that supposed to be a slur against God?
@patmcbride9853
@patmcbride9853 3 ай бұрын
@@EmilyTienne "...but you have to actually use it."
@ingvarhallstrom2306
@ingvarhallstrom2306 3 ай бұрын
Even with shoddy construction work it has been standing for over 170 years, the questions what happened with it *now* ? I believe bad maintenance is the cause of this, most likely water ingress that erroded the structural walls. Probably damaged gutters on the inside wall between the tower and the main building, leading to water eating up the mortar along the inner wall. The structural failure seems to have affected one of the corners, therefore the sideways collapse. One can clearly see the large and dark visible stains from the excess water running down the sides of the building all the way from the roof down to the ground, all the water that should've fallen down the gutters.
@envitech02
@envitech02 3 ай бұрын
I concur with you.
@MmmmDatAss
@MmmmDatAss 3 ай бұрын
Water damage possibly mixed with acidic rainwater most likely. Could have been prevented I'm sure.
@billhosko7723
@billhosko7723 3 ай бұрын
Good grief all of you keyboard Kariens.@@MmmmDatAss
@billhosko7723
@billhosko7723 3 ай бұрын
Gee. No one else thought of that - including the video author.
@ingvarhallstrom2306
@ingvarhallstrom2306 3 ай бұрын
@@billhosko7723 Boy, you must be fun at parties?
@MisterRoyd
@MisterRoyd 3 ай бұрын
Was it while the 1:30 bells sounded?
@Daytona2
@Daytona2 3 ай бұрын
From their website - “It is madness to wear ladies’ straw hats and velvet hats to church; we should all be wearing crash helmets. Ushers should issue life preservers and signal flares; they should lash us to our pews. For the sleeping god may wake someday and take offense, or the waking god may draw us out to where we can never return.” ―Annie Dillard you just couldn't make this up.
@RMCMichigan
@RMCMichigan 3 ай бұрын
That was absolutely fascinating.
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 3 ай бұрын
Im glad you think so😊 I got hold of the original hi-res secrity footage and finding further interesting information. Hope to post the follow up soon,
@kirishima638
@kirishima638 3 ай бұрын
Impressive work
@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307
@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307 3 ай бұрын
If only they asked their imaginary friend to save its church!
@matthewmosier8439
@matthewmosier8439 3 ай бұрын
How do you know God's imaginary?
@warrenSPQRXxl
@warrenSPQRXxl 3 ай бұрын
As someone else has pointed out, there are metal plates evident on the facade in modern photos that indicate several iron tensioning rods were placed at some point to strengthen the tower. Did one or more of them rust out owing to water infiltration. Was there a ground shift caused by recent heavy rains? Poor construction and maintenance too? Often multiple factors line up in to cause many catastrophes.
@billhosko7723
@billhosko7723 3 ай бұрын
Novel idea, 'Often multiple factors line up in to cause many catastrophes'. 1 Reply
@George-bc7ej
@George-bc7ej 3 ай бұрын
He posted this video less than a week after the event.
@organisten
@organisten 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. Could I ask you to shed some light on how the side galleries were destroyed? I can understand the organ gallery, being right at the very back where the tower was, but I think I have seen pictures showing that this church had side galleries? If so, from the ruins pictured here, it is apparent that they were destroyed in the collapse. What was the mechanism of this?
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 3 ай бұрын
The east gallery survived... sort of and you can see lots of roof timbers lying on it in the drone shot. The west gallery was taken out by the falling spire..
@organisten
@organisten 3 ай бұрын
@@Mike-Bell Thank you. I had not noticed the East gallery, and the question of what had happened to these kind of bugged me because I couldn't make sense of it. Thank you for clearing that up.
@ethanspaziani1070
@ethanspaziani1070 3 ай бұрын
Maintenance and upkeep is important people
@billhosko7723
@billhosko7723 3 ай бұрын
thanks karien
@MisatoBestWoman
@MisatoBestWoman 3 ай бұрын
I hope this is rebuilt, the architecture beauty in this stone building is amazing
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 3 ай бұрын
The church certainly doesn’t have the money to rebuild it in stone. So it is gone forever.
@officerdonut7066
@officerdonut7066 2 ай бұрын
It can't rebuild it they can't
@rannyacernese6627
@rannyacernese6627 3 ай бұрын
The building passed a structural inspection ten years ago!
@Etienne_H
@Etienne_H 3 ай бұрын
A bit weird how often buildings just collapse like that in the USA. Like are structural engineers and renovations not a thing over there?
@billhosko7723
@billhosko7723 3 ай бұрын
idiot, karien troll
@HotTacticalBoyfriendOfficial
@HotTacticalBoyfriendOfficial 3 ай бұрын
Chesterfield Parish Church says "hello". 👋
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 3 ай бұрын
South Africa says hello 😊
@hypsyzygy506
@hypsyzygy506 3 ай бұрын
Chesterfield: 70m spire built c1360, twisted to 2.5m from vertical.
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 3 ай бұрын
@@hypsyzygy506 Oh wow. Didn’t know about that twisty leany spire. Worth mentioning in a follow up video. Thanks for highlighting
@HotTacticalBoyfriendOfficial
@HotTacticalBoyfriendOfficial 3 ай бұрын
@@Mike-Bell Oh sorry Mike, I assumed you got the reference. 😁
@bobroberts6155
@bobroberts6155 3 ай бұрын
A spire collapse by someone called Bell, nominative determinism strikes again.
@kimmanning2913
@kimmanning2913 3 ай бұрын
"1:30 on Jan 25, it all came tumbling down."
@rishaan775
@rishaan775 3 ай бұрын
Omg there was a person inside? How scary
@jasons8479
@jasons8479 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, given the way the scene looked after such a quick collapse, you'd think they wouldn't even stand a chance. I don't even want to imagine how that event must've looked and sounded like from inside, especially with the reverberation of such a space. I'd be very interested in what that person has to say.
@hypsyzygy506
@hypsyzygy506 3 ай бұрын
She was in an office in the 1970s extension behind the church.
@jbonegw
@jbonegw 3 ай бұрын
How sad. They just don’t make them like this anymore.
@danielm4436
@danielm4436 3 ай бұрын
I don't consider myself religious but man could they pull funds and labor to build beautiful things. I's a shame that modern precautions weren't taken. Why?
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes 26 күн бұрын
Because people are lazy
@euroschmau
@euroschmau 3 ай бұрын
This could have been a horrific catastrophe, thank god it wasn't. I live in Philadelphia and the city is full of old churches, many of which are in horrible physical condition. Churches deteriorating beyond repair is not uncommon here, thankfully nowadays, most are caught before becoming disasters. This, however, more often than not results in demolition. It is painful to see our built heritage becoming heaps of rubble. It says a lot about our society how we neglect works of beauty. It goes beyond churches, where much of our historic vernacular architecture is left to rot. This is the sad reality in this miserable hyper consumerist hell we call America.
@JerryFisher
@JerryFisher 3 ай бұрын
Bingo. If something can't earn it's right to exist financially, too bad so sad, goodbye. It's not until after it's gone that suddenly there is clarity and regret. The concept of our federal government taking on the cost of repair and upkeep tends to be so unpopular because of our mythology of having always been self sufficient. Not to mention the nightmare of red tape that any bureaucrat would gush over with love. It's eye-opening that the Statue of Liberty has generally relied on handouts from corporations and public donations. If even she doesn't have the full support of the government, what chance do any landmarks and historic sites of only local renown have if the money can't be raised in the community, county or state?
@billhosko7723
@billhosko7723 3 ай бұрын
Classic p/a post. Good grief. @@JerryFisher
@JerryFisher
@JerryFisher 3 ай бұрын
@@billhosko7723 I don't understand? Please explain?
@SD.95
@SD.95 Ай бұрын
Oh God. 😢
@tarawhite4419
@tarawhite4419 3 ай бұрын
So much for the next thousand yrs
@timbergdtedt3492
@timbergdtedt3492 3 ай бұрын
Leaning from the beginning? Accelerating lean? Didn't hear that on the evening news. Good work. How come there's only video of video and from just one camera? There's got to be more cameras around that caught this.
@billhosko7723
@billhosko7723 3 ай бұрын
No, there does not "got to be".
@hypsyzygy506
@hypsyzygy506 3 ай бұрын
Surely there were twenty or thirty security cameras monitoring the building just to catch its collapse?
@teemulehto81
@teemulehto81 3 ай бұрын
Aleksanterin kirkko Tampereelta päässyt esimerkkikuvaan. ❤
@MrBruinman86
@MrBruinman86 Ай бұрын
the 6 degree list was new info for me.
@DougGrinbergs
@DougGrinbergs 3 ай бұрын
1:24 architect was concerned in 1851 - 2 years before it was finished! WTH 1:50 professional eye spots damage of concern 5:17 6⁰ steeple tilt!
@billhosko7723
@billhosko7723 3 ай бұрын
karien
@janwitts2688
@janwitts2688 3 ай бұрын
So.. wtf wasn't it dismantled and rebuilt decades ago...
@seymoorepoone9512
@seymoorepoone9512 3 ай бұрын
Is this something that occurs frequently?
@billhosko7723
@billhosko7723 3 ай бұрын
troll
@hypsyzygy506
@hypsyzygy506 3 ай бұрын
Chichester cathedral spire collapsed at 13;30 Thursday 21st February 1861 while work was ongoing to repair bulges and cracks in the 700 year old tower. Fortunately the workers were at lunch. The spire was rebuilt. Beauvais cathedral - the tallest Gothic Church - had three significant collapses: - 1225 of which little is known - 1284 (20;00 Thursday 29th November) when the recent choir vault collapsed - 1573, when the 150m tower collapsed four years after completion Between 1315 and 1332 the central tower of Wells cathedral was heightened and a timber and lead spire added. The base of the tower had to be internally braced in 1338 by the unique solution of three massive 'scissor' arches. The spire burned down in 1439. The church in Chesterfield has a 1360 spire that is famously crooked - 228 feet tall (70m) it twists to 8 feet (2.5m) off vertical. The prosaic reason is that it was built shortly after the Black Death using easily-worked green timber, and at a later date was clad in lead with a pattern that happened to impart a twist as the sunlit side expanded more than the unlit side. Another explanation is that it was twisted by the devil's tail as he fled the ringing of the bells. The cheeky legend is that a virgin was married in the church and the spire was so surprised that it twisted to get a good look; rumour has it that if another virgin should get married there the spire will straighten out.
@jmenter1
@jmenter1 3 ай бұрын
If anyone saw it, considering it is a church, they probably did what they know how to do. Pray
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 3 ай бұрын
Thoughts and prayers…
@artysanmobile
@artysanmobile 3 ай бұрын
And pointlessly.
@rebeccamyott7041
@rebeccamyott7041 3 ай бұрын
But the church never had any maintenance.??
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes 26 күн бұрын
Guess not any proper to ensure that the steeple wouldn’t fall over.
@kacperwoch4368
@kacperwoch4368 3 ай бұрын
I have not found any pictures showing the inside but my guess would be the tower's side facing the roof rested on two pillars and those two pillars subsided slightly during the original construction and after 170 years they started to sink even more, dragging the tower with it. I doubt the collapse has anything to do with defective masonary near the roofline, the failure must have happened much lower in the structure. The tower was basically like a chair that has two legs placed on concrete and two on sand and the load put on the chair results in uneaven sinking and tilt.
@danikmcintyre2068
@danikmcintyre2068 3 ай бұрын
a huge organ was located between the tower and sanctuary, i figure vibrations from the organ may have caused cracks in the structure also.
@billhosko7723
@billhosko7723 3 ай бұрын
Keyboard Kariens are out enforce... good grief. @@danikmcintyre2068
@borntoclimb7116
@borntoclimb7116 3 ай бұрын
Pretty interesting
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 3 ай бұрын
Glad you found it interesting too. 😃
@powertechnical
@powertechnical 3 ай бұрын
Do you think the roof contributed to the weakening of the tower structure?
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 3 ай бұрын
The roof weighs just a fraction of the stone. I highly doubt the roof played any part besides the roof columns wihich carried most of it weight.
@kamurray67
@kamurray67 3 ай бұрын
Eritque arcus icthus, enough said!
@tommymcelroy4156
@tommymcelroy4156 3 ай бұрын
Was there a lot of vibration from the construction area?
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 3 ай бұрын
Construction was minor works.
@laurafoote6943
@laurafoote6943 3 ай бұрын
In the past year, there had been major and significant construction driving piles for building the new State Pier for the Revolution Wind energy project in New London. This was half a mile away. Could that have been a factor?@@Mike-Bell
@billhosko7723
@billhosko7723 3 ай бұрын
JFC... it is academic and needless at this point. Good grief you 20/20 kariens.
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