Classic Review - Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun + Firestorm

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DWTerminator

DWTerminator

9 жыл бұрын

In this review, I take a look at the direct sequel to the original Command & Conquer and the follow-up to C&C: Red Alert. I also touch on the expansion pack for it (Firestorm), since the expansion isn't really all that substantial other than its campaign.
ESRB Rating: Teen (13+) - Mild Language, Realistic Blood, Realistic Violence
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Пікірлер: 103
@Blkglssjw
@Blkglssjw 8 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite Command & Conquer game.
@lokalnyork
@lokalnyork 6 жыл бұрын
Totally, You feel like world is dying from Tiberium pollution, mutant uprising, CABAL inhuman experiments and wars with Nod. The feel, man.
@faridvideo
@faridvideo 6 жыл бұрын
i active play multiplayer in cncnet
@lavrenzo84
@lavrenzo84 5 жыл бұрын
the best C&C game no doubt , and the best rts game ever no doubt !
@MrTripleXXX
@MrTripleXXX 3 жыл бұрын
Mine too. It's so eerie and I love the music and sound effects. The sound of cloaking, disc throwers... enough said.
@LEXICON-DEVIL
@LEXICON-DEVIL 2 жыл бұрын
💯%!!!
@GatorMilk
@GatorMilk 9 жыл бұрын
This was my favorite CnC game.
@DWTerminator
@DWTerminator 9 жыл бұрын
Mine as well. That said I'm not much of a C&C guy but this one's still my favorite in the series.
@kodan7879
@kodan7879 7 жыл бұрын
I loved the story. I just fucking loved the story as well as the atmosphere. They tried to recreate it with Tiberium Wars but they just couldn't get neither the story nor the atmosphere.
@MisterAAnderson
@MisterAAnderson 9 жыл бұрын
Best C&C ever developed. A personal favourite of mine. Thanks for the review.
@moved5600
@moved5600 8 жыл бұрын
It's too bad that Westwood's version of Tiberian Twilight was never finished before EA took over... That had hinted an interesting feature where you could individually upgrade and customize your units in game!
@yeshuayahushua4338
@yeshuayahushua4338 7 жыл бұрын
WWOOOW , nice ! It's a shame ! Too bad they were not raised be the fanatic fans to be back on the horse with their exceptional games...
@smegmalasagna
@smegmalasagna 6 жыл бұрын
Vanu Infiltrator I keep hearing cool things about the actual tiberium twilight like CABAL being a playable faction and it makes my hate to EA grow by the day
@Maayerr
@Maayerr 7 жыл бұрын
classic tiberian sun still better than most of the games in 2017
@ZPSBestProfileName
@ZPSBestProfileName 9 жыл бұрын
Haven't seen the review yet, but this is still my favourite CnC game of all time. The music was INCREDIBLY well-suited to the game. Much better acting than the previous ones. I can't remember if it was better than RA2 though
@DWTerminator
@DWTerminator 9 жыл бұрын
RA2's "technically" better but I still prefer Tiberian Sun.
@steph_man372
@steph_man372 6 жыл бұрын
Frank Klepacky only made about half of the soundtrack of Tiberian Sun. Jarrid Mendelson did the other.
@g1gabyt3
@g1gabyt3 9 жыл бұрын
Klepacki made the soundtrack for Firestorm, but not TibSun, I think it's important to differentiate between them, especially with the fact that TibSun soudtrack is more ambient, compared to Firestorm one
@mrhedgehog5493
@mrhedgehog5493 3 жыл бұрын
Actually Klepacki did made the soundtrack for Tiberian Sun.
@johnhoppin7928
@johnhoppin7928 7 жыл бұрын
this game looks significantly better than starcraft...
@yeshuayahushua4338
@yeshuayahushua4338 7 жыл бұрын
exactly. What RTS games do you recommend bro ?
@Savior20061
@Savior20061 8 жыл бұрын
I like the story of Tib Sun as well. One of my preferred single player experiences in the series.
@TurboMMaster
@TurboMMaster 6 жыл бұрын
Tiberian Sun's engine IS a 3D engine. Sure, it's not a full 3d, like Warcraft III, Earth 2150 or Dark Reign 2. But look closely - there is a depth of field and you can look on units from different perspective. Remember that Tiberian Sun was late on market, it used to be relased on November 1998, but was relased August 1999. So it used to compete with Starcraft, Total Annihilation and Dark Reign: The Future of War.
@TSF_Ukraine
@TSF_Ukraine 6 жыл бұрын
Indeed it is. The vehicle models are 3D, some of the effects and debris are also full 3D. You can clearly see it in game when, let's say, NOD buggy gets blown up and all its tires jump away after the explosion. When artillery strikes a vehicle, it tilts and jumps up a bit in full 3D, and every model has a bottom, so, even in the unlikely even that something REALLY BIG explodes nearby and the model jumps up high, there's something for you to see underneath. I think they hit a pretty nice balance between using sprites and models. Sprites allowed for nicely detailed buildings and infantry units, while models gave vehicles a pretty good look. Thanks to art consistency, it all looked organic. Going full 3D would've resulted in scenery lacking detail and the game aging terribly in just a couple of years.
@kanjiNaem
@kanjiNaem 7 жыл бұрын
this is my fav. c&c game ever... i just loved the atmosphere! i liked the story but sometimes some stuff felt a little bit out of place... i loved the techno soundtrach (scout is the best)! and the most important thing, i loved the add on! everything i love about c&c comes together here! this is why i only play c&c tib. wars with the tiberium essence mod
@jcrebel18
@jcrebel18 9 жыл бұрын
I remember getting through the Nod campaign for Tiberian Sun, but never got through the GDI one. I also was never able to get through either in Firestorm.
@danielstuart2162
@danielstuart2162 9 жыл бұрын
Theres always a back way to the enemies base in single player. This was my fav cnc game.
@francis5284
@francis5284 9 жыл бұрын
Great video mate but could you please review Renagade X id so love to hear your thoughts on that
@DWTerminator
@DWTerminator 9 жыл бұрын
I won't review it but I might do an MTO on it.
@francis5284
@francis5284 9 жыл бұрын
DWTerminator Ohh well ok then but i still love your videos either way :) Great work
@Cephalopod51
@Cephalopod51 9 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see your views on the original Dune II and Dune 2000. Another RTS I recommend checking out is Shiny Entertainment's Sacrifice, which combines classic RTS elements with RPG and third-person games.
@DWTerminator
@DWTerminator 9 жыл бұрын
Dune 2 & 2000 are in my "to do" list. Sacrifice is in my "to get" list.
@Cephalopod51
@Cephalopod51 9 жыл бұрын
I've played Dune 1, too. I've yet to play the whole game, but from what I saw in the several longplays of Dune, I it very much. I kind of wish that someone remade it: a Dune 1000, so to speak.
@DWTerminator
@DWTerminator 9 жыл бұрын
I've never managed to find a copy of the original Dune game. Otherwise I would've at least tried it out.
@jeradpaulson771
@jeradpaulson771 3 жыл бұрын
when i put on the patch it Just Froze on me !
@lavrenzo84
@lavrenzo84 7 жыл бұрын
if I have to be honest this is one of the best looking strategy game I have ever seen !.2D to this day looks much better compare to 3D games !.(
@SchazmenRassir
@SchazmenRassir 7 жыл бұрын
This is one that I never really got into in the first place. Mostly because I never played it, until I bought The First Decade several years ago. And even since, I've gotten Ultimate Edition, and I've still not really played this game. This is still the only C&C game (along with Tiberian Twilight) that I've never actually finished.
@DominikSobolewski
@DominikSobolewski 9 жыл бұрын
Hey DWm I am what do you think of this build I'm considering? 970GTX 4gb i7 4790 16gb ddr4 3TB Harddrive 256GB SSD You think I'm good for this console generation? PC system requirements don't seem to change drastically until new consoles come out I've noticed.
@DominikSobolewski
@DominikSobolewski 9 жыл бұрын
***** I'm also planning on rendering 4k video, so you think the i7 and harddrive will help?
@DWTerminator
@DWTerminator 9 жыл бұрын
That's pretty much what I've got, except I have a 4790k instead of just a 4790. You should be fine for a while.
@DominikSobolewski
@DominikSobolewski 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think I'm looking at a 390. Benchmarks show it's better, and it's about the same price.
@DWTerminator
@DWTerminator 9 жыл бұрын
The 390 is basically just a rebranded 290.
@DominikSobolewski
@DominikSobolewski 9 жыл бұрын
With better temperature controls. At the moment I'm looking at the 390, best performance per cost ratio at the moment. Should I hold out for a month or two and see if a new line of GPUs is going to come out?
@yeshuayahushua4338
@yeshuayahushua4338 7 жыл бұрын
Can anybody suggest some literature at least similar to this wonderful game or C&C series ? (Dune 2000 is after Frank Herbert's books, I know) I would really appreciate friends !
@THB192
@THB192 7 жыл бұрын
Yeshua Yahushua ...Warhammer 40k stuff? Tom Clancy novels? Fist Of The North Star (not a novel, but whatever)?
@estarr86
@estarr86 6 жыл бұрын
Orson Scott card empire series
@zaori2785
@zaori2785 5 жыл бұрын
loved this game...
@AlexeiVoronin
@AlexeiVoronin 6 жыл бұрын
Always loved the "B-Movie" aesthetics of this game. Very immersive.
@kayeplaguedoc9054
@kayeplaguedoc9054 8 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you've had more luck running this on modern OSes than Red Alert 2. Tiberian Sun has always been a nightmare for me on anything later than Windows 98. I'm trying to run it now and it starts fine but I can't actually get into the game, when I click "Start New Game" it freezes forever. :/ Yet RA2 runs fine. Guess it maybe depends somewhat on the processor or system but I could be wrong.
@lumen2852
@lumen2852 6 жыл бұрын
While CnC Tiberian Sun could be more complex I'd still like to argue that it does still have plenty of depth and strategy. Also no the skirmish mode isn't really lacking, it is actually a really great strongpoint of the game. From me an RTS fans standpoint, I still see this a pretty solid game and on top of that has much mods to go with it allowing for even more units and strategy to be added if needed.
@Planetdune
@Planetdune 6 жыл бұрын
For some reason I never got into this one back in the day.. not sure what I was playing at the moment.. Age of Empires 2 maybe or Age of Mythology.. not sure but I didn't get back into the C&C games until Red Alert 2.
@DWTerminator
@DWTerminator 6 жыл бұрын
More often than not you pretty much fell into one camp or another back then. I was never big on the C&C series and much preferred Age of Empires.
@LEXICON-DEVIL
@LEXICON-DEVIL 2 жыл бұрын
Can you recommend RTS games with the more depth and complexity that you speak of outside of more C&C games? Haha I grew up on console so here and there I was able to play Tiberian Sun, StarCraft, Star Wars RTS & Age of Empires. All great games but nothing beats Tiberian Suns & StarCrafts setting for me. I know there's different types but any core base building like those 2 games would be great. PS- Applying concrete in C&C is addicting, tactical and sorely missed haha
@DWTerminator
@DWTerminator 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't describe C&C as "complex." That said, there are a fair few base-building RTS games out there, but most of them are relatively old. I haven't played all that many of them, but I can at least point you in the direction of some of the ones I'm aware of. You might want to look into the Cossacks series, Empire Earth series, Grey Goo, Warrior Kings series, and the Kohan series, to name a few.
@L2Nuku
@L2Nuku 9 жыл бұрын
hmm, i might have to give this one another go, i didn't like the changes compared to Dune2/C&C1/RA1 back in the day, i did however had loads of fun with Dune2000. As for Dune1, i played the hell out of it on both SegaCD and PC, really liked the mix of adventure and tactics/strategy. btw, the comment you made about the campaign might be the same reason for me why i like UAW so much, which also features a minor global tactical part comparable to that of Dune 1.
@DWTerminator
@DWTerminator 9 жыл бұрын
I haven't been able to get into Dune 2000 at all. That might change as I attempt to go through it, but we'll see. As for Dune 2... it's just too archaic at this point. I get absolutely *nothing* out of it. That said, Tiberian Sun's my personal favorite in the C&C series, even though later games are technically/mechanically superior. Take that for what it's worth.
@L2Nuku
@L2Nuku 9 жыл бұрын
+DWTerminator i would probably not be able to play Dune 2 anymore these days aswell, it's getting really old like you mentioned.
@AlexeiVoronin
@AlexeiVoronin 6 жыл бұрын
Calling this game "archaic" makes no sense. It's a 1990's game - it obviously can't compare to RTS games made after 2010. It is obviously simplistic and with older gameplay mechanics. This is what it's SUPPOSED to be.
@justing1474
@justing1474 2 жыл бұрын
My fave of the series too 😎
@JunkyardMech
@JunkyardMech 4 жыл бұрын
TS is freeware and you can download the whole game with updated renderers and account-less multiplayer on cncnet.org/tiberian-sun . There's a helpful community discord if you need some sort of orientation I think this review doesn't wade deep enough to really do this game justice, but for an old game, the only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.
@andrej6918
@andrej6918 9 жыл бұрын
Can you name a few tactical FPS's, besides R6 and GR?
@DWTerminator
@DWTerminator 9 жыл бұрын
Insurgency, Red Orchestra 1 & 2, Republic Commando, Hidden & Dangerous 2, Deadly Dozen, Takedown: Red Sabre, SWAT 3 & 4, Brothers in Arms series. Couple things to note: 1, you did not specify *good* tactical FPS's, so I just gave you a general list. 2, there really aren't all that many tactical FPS's out there.
@andrej6918
@andrej6918 9 жыл бұрын
DWTerminator Well, which one of these are good?
@DWTerminator
@DWTerminator 9 жыл бұрын
Takedown and Deadly Dozen are both awful. Republic Commando and SWAT 4 are mediocre. I've not played much of Brothers in Arms but what I did play wasn't particularly good either. The rest is solid.
@Cephalopod51
@Cephalopod51 9 жыл бұрын
Andrej Gamer4Life Giants: Citizen Kabuto is a tactical First person/Third person shooter. It combines aspects of Shiny Entertainment's MDK with some RTS elements, and is damn funny. The gameplay for the first two campaigns, the Meccs and Delphi the Sea Reaper, alternate between missions that involve exploration and RTS base-building missions that combine Capture the Flag with Assault the Base. The Meccs campaign gives you friendly NPCs who follow your lead and shoot when you shoot. Delphi is solitary, but she has very powerful spells which make it fun to take out small armies by yourself. The Kabuto campaign, which plays like King Kong and the Hulk, is not as polished as the first two campaigns, but it helps that eating enemies can increase your health.
@ripoutyourprejudice
@ripoutyourprejudice 9 жыл бұрын
Andrej Gamer4Life Hidden & Dangerous 2 was the most fun I had with a tactical shooter.
@Marc_Araujo
@Marc_Araujo Жыл бұрын
The best in the series...bar none.
@djMiSSDeeeZ
@djMiSSDeeeZ 6 жыл бұрын
This is not on gogcom anymore?
@DWTerminator
@DWTerminator 6 жыл бұрын
It never was.
@djMiSSDeeeZ
@djMiSSDeeeZ 6 жыл бұрын
o.O oops I think I saw it in my gamedreams on gogcom then :))) But I'm playing C&C3 now, the graphics are still impressive even after playing Starcraft 2 and Dawn Of War III Maybe, I gonna buy that bundle (17 games in one), always liked the GDI.
@DWTerminator
@DWTerminator 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I have no idea why they haven't made them available on GoG yet. It's not like there aren't a lot of classic EA titles on there already. Also, to be fair... Starcraft 2 and Dawn of War 3 aren't exactly impressive in the visual department. Well polished, definitely, but not impressive.
@pennzilla57
@pennzilla57 6 жыл бұрын
6:22 "not a good vehicle for telling a good story"... have you ever even played starcraft?
@DWTerminator
@DWTerminator 6 жыл бұрын
Yep.
@KungKras
@KungKras 8 жыл бұрын
What 2D RTS games looked better than this?
@DWTerminator
@DWTerminator 8 жыл бұрын
Starcraft, for one. With 2D RTS's there wasn't really a huge difference once you got past 1998 though.
@KungKras
@KungKras 8 жыл бұрын
DWTerminator IMO Tiberian Sun looks slightly better. But maybe it's because I've played Starcraft so much that I've gotten used to it.
@yeshuayahushua4338
@yeshuayahushua4338 7 жыл бұрын
Yah ... Starcraft looks older... the colors and resolution are too bad
@lavrenzo84
@lavrenzo84 7 жыл бұрын
Dark Colony ;].
@kodan7879
@kodan7879 7 жыл бұрын
StarCraft doesn't look better.
@MrTripleXXX
@MrTripleXXX 3 жыл бұрын
I actually don't like it when an RTS game is too complex.
@andrej6918
@andrej6918 9 жыл бұрын
Have you ever payed 60 bucks for a game?
@DWTerminator
@DWTerminator 9 жыл бұрын
A few times. Got burned too much to keep doing it though.
@FluffySylveonBoi
@FluffySylveonBoi 2 жыл бұрын
Haha screw multiplayer, campaign is the best in this game
@yeshuayahushua4338
@yeshuayahushua4338 7 жыл бұрын
In RTS games you cannot put a good storytelling ?? Pffff, ... why ? Ok let's just say , but , can you recommend some god rich story driven games please ?
@DWTerminator
@DWTerminator 7 жыл бұрын
The Gabriel Knight trilogy, Planescape: Torment, Bastion (though it's fairly minimalistic on how it tells the story), Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, to name a few. Strategy games are just too detached to be conducive to good storytelling.
@yeshuayahushua4338
@yeshuayahushua4338 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah honestly I must admit that I can see what you are saying ... and what a wonderful OST has Bastion ...splendid visuals too , and Planescape Torment ... I like this creepy gothic dark fantasy , psychedelic surreal atmosphere ...
@yeshuayahushua4338
@yeshuayahushua4338 7 жыл бұрын
I have a few names : SOMA , Half_Life, RTCW (bend yourself and try to see something good lol , many were the games of my childhood ;) Soldier Of Fortune 2 Double Helix , Blade Runner , Deus Ex , Far Cry 3 ( and maayybe FC4 , because these have some story , are different from the common shit like gears of war , cod and fifa. ) Watch the video Far Cry 3 Symmetry theory , and from the same guy , the video for the next game in the franchise , far cry 4. , Lucius ....(even me I have to doubt..idk if he deserve totally ) Fallout 1 & 2 (& New Vegas, that's all :) But I did not played , but I seen critique , analysis and I like it , the story and mechanics I mean , nor Planescape Torment , Arcanum of steampunk and magick obscura but I have these pirated from TPB , the GOG versions haha ... hmm , a , The Stanley Parable , Firewatch ,Bioshock ( and system shock of course ) , I have no mouth and I must scream , Fahrenheit451 , Talos Principle , and I don't remember any games now
@riv4lm4n
@riv4lm4n 7 жыл бұрын
this is my least favourite c&c game
@Bill_Stranix
@Bill_Stranix 6 жыл бұрын
Same. Not as fun as the others and the FMV is rubbish.
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