Joey Kevorkian for real I wanted more! Idk what this kid is on but I’m happy with them giving us as much episodes as possible lol

Yeah it's easy to say in retrospect that the season would've been better with 4 episodes considering how lackluster the first 8 were, but I guarantee there would've been a shitstorm if they announced that Clone Wars was returning after all this time and then only having 4 episodes

ZHL242 Just frame it as a the Clone Wars movie and most would be fine... The 4 episodes can easily fill a movie's watchtime.

4orange would’ve been nice to get The Son of Dathmir Arc, ventress Arc and a few others. Kinda surprised they didn’t include more given the popularity of this show is so great🤔 maybe one day we’ll get them you never know🔥

See not the only one. (I said the same thing)

Yeah but I think the last four episodes would've lost quality if they were dragged out for a whole season. Perhaps a movie would've been a better way of giving us what we wanted without all of the chaff.

Agreed. I think the episodes were necessary to get us emotionally connected to The Clone Wars again as the show was gone for a long time. So The Bad Batch reminded us about Rex's relationship with the clones, that he would go to extreme lengths to protect one of his fallen brothers, in this case Echo. And the Ashoka arc, although it was dragged out, it developed her distrust of the Jedi Order as it was not only HER that they had failed. So I feel that the additional episodes DID ADD to the final four episodes, and served as a good reminder.

Eric Carter That’s a good observation and you’re right they served there purpose and to that end I suppose their existence was justified. But I think a lot of fans (definitely myself) we’re connected enough already and I think that’s the portion of people who won’t enjoy those first two arcs. But without them most casual watchers might not have carried through with the rest of the season. A very good observation on your part.

yes, having the bad makes you appreciate the good even more, cause without the bad you wouldnt know good is

I think yes, Star Wars fans can always complain. I wasn't happy that we aren't getting a finished version of Crystal crisis. Others want all cancelled episodes back from the grave and even if we had gotten that, people like Marcus would still have said that they were diminished by the initial cancellation.

I swear two of my favorite characters grievous and bane, only had two seconds for only one of them they basically forgot them

ALM media I remember watching the first Cad Bane episode where Anakin doesn’t have his lightsaber when I was like 6. For me after that, Cad Bane was the coolest character in the show. And then after season 3 they pretty much just forgot about him

LillWawrence he showed up again in season 4 though didn’t he?

Apollo X Sins I agree, the arc was *ok* (FOR ME), but that episode was the worst in the hole season

@@EditedAF987 cad bane's last If I'm not mistaken was the cube arc where they try to take an assassination on the chancellor or something

He’ll probably do a quickie when season 2 comes out

Hopefully he some day reviews Clone wars 2003

@@HoboTheHenry That would be fun, even if it's not canon.

@@8is RIP legends continuity

@@HoboTheHenry As far as I am aware, it was never considered to be canon.

Perfectly balanced

Deadshot 500 As all things should be

Your not wrong, your not wrong at all ... actually you might have hit a bullseye.

ya but you can say about anything really, Example Game of thrones season, 1-4 YEAAAAA THIS IS GOLD, 4-6 hey this is...alright, 7-8 fuck this IM OUT

@@paulb2306 But the thing with the Clone Wars is that every Season has its ups and downs. There were extreme highs and extreme lows. With Game of Thrones, Seasons 7 and 8 were almost all bad, while seasons 1-4 were almost all good.

can confirm. i just finished it and i'm so happy that i've never watched rebels. the emotions that i got from the last few episodes were amazing tbh.

True

@@livootherworld5756 I didnt intend to watch rebels but every star wars video i watched ALWAYS included a little bit of spoilers, so i already knew what happened :(

I didn’t know Ahsoka was in rebels while watching it. I only started watching clone wars a month before the finale

i did, i watched the clone wars in full back to back before i watched rebels and it was easily one of if not the best tv show i’ve ever watched, in so glad i got into it recently instead of being a star wars fan before and having rebels ruin everything

“Hey what’s that over there, is that the script?”

@@nasaship7578 I got that reference

I love the prequels but goddamn that script, is just horrible.

@zan the man I like rots lol but I agree the script sucks lol

There was a script

Then throw the other arcs...

Darth Maul: NOOOO YOU CANT CAPTURE ME YOULL BE DESTROYED FROM WITHIN Republic: Haha clones go- **dies**

baseball god I think you mean: Republic: Haha clones go- **Wilhelm Scream**

@@sirapple589 that works as well

baseball god I hate how accurate this is.😂

Lol how could’ve Maul seen the movies he’s not on Earth you’re dumb lmao

**Waves hand** You will change your mind.

It wasn’t really sad because you knew they’d be mates a minute after.

Ty Geanoules I cannot change your mind you are extremely correct

**best** scene

James Lo he’s talking about after he got the chip removed not when we was fighting order 66

fucking same dude same

Same here i had never watched it because i thought it was just a cartoon show for kids that wasnt canon. Then i heard it was canon. So it peaked my interest and i was hooked.

I just pretended rebels never existed. It’s better that way.

@@majorbruhmoment5711 well it does so your thoughts dont matter

I know of rebels, but haven’t finished it out. Most of season 7 was still fresh to me.

One son of dothomir arc, Kashyyk invasion arc with yoda, Dooku vs bounty hunters and ventress, Grievous kidnapping Palpatine, Anakin discussing with Obi wan on how sad it is that Ahsoka left scene too short.

I really don’t understand fanboys’ obsession with that lame character.

@@chadzahirshah2588 also there was gonna be an arc where ahsoka battles Palpatine through a door and it was gonna be so cool :(

@@Mateocabrera2389 watch 2003 clone wars

Any other arc will have been better than the sisters arc. We did no need to see ahsoka become besties with some meaningless characters

Covid-19: "Oh I don't think so"

I only disagree with your opinion on the first arc. Realistically, it was good. To me, it was great! 👍🏼

Oddwolf 799 Haha agreed, waaay better and I can’t wait for the show that will focus on them coming later in 2021. There’s so much potential to bring back other characters, explore amazing new storylines post-Order 66 & to further develop the Bad Batch themselves since they were pretty fun to watch and hear from as well! Very interesting batch of clones that I wanna know more of!! 🤩🙏🏼🔥💝

Nah bad batch was great

I consider the finale four episodes as a movie if people find this acceptable then I will consider it as my favourite SW movie deal with it bitchs

Aboy Chap your forgot the scene when Maul killed all the clones in the hallway

Both maul vs clones scenes

Rex never really refuses order 66 He complyed with the order after 10 seconds of slight resistance and wanted to kill Ahsoka until she removed his chip

U forgot maul in the hallway and when he took down the Venator

I would even include... - Darth Maul fighting the clones in the hallway. - Ashoka reuniting with Anakin and Rex - Deathwatch and the clones landing on Mandalore with Ashoka jumping and fighting from ship to ship. That scene was awesome.

Yeah, it was mo-capped as he mentioned in the video, and the guy who played maul in making that scene was Ray Parks, who played live action Maul in Phantom Menace.

isnt the entirety of clone wars cgi?

@@Nicooo Yeah but I'm sure it wasn't actual motion capture which is why some fights before had this kind of jankyness where they go really fast then stop for a second and then go for another attack and then stop for a second. Rinse and repeat

Bruh right, tbh this is the only comment I found mentioning about bad batch

I'm kinda curious if cosmonaut is gonna do the bad batch but knowing him through these videos he probably won't but episode one had me hooked

And it has been very very mid

@@arcanum3882exactly it’s so bad

@@arcanum3882wrong

Wesley Crawford i would like but u got 66 i don’t wanna mess it up

made it 69 likes

Wesley Crawford clone wars, and Star Wars for that matter, might have some really low lows and really high highs. But when they actually try and work hard- it’s PHENOMENAL!!

That sounds like every franchise ever made.

@@silversunset It's a difficult balance to walk, but honestly, I continue to love Star Wars, the MCU, and DC because they aren't good or great all the time. It stays interesting because of that.

It's just how Dave Filoni filler episodes feels under Disney.

@@vanitymanatee3202 Yeah idk, it felt like it had a younger target audience... But it's about the drug trade and the rest of the season is so dark.

3 weeks late, but THE most frustrating part was this entire conflict was caused by this idiot girl dumping the spice because her group was arguing. Like what the hell man, this plot is boring af.

Magicstuffandthings felt like a disney movie

It felt like a Hando side story. Filler.

I never got the obsession people have with the character. Grievous is a shit character.

@@Mateocabrera2389 because he’s a cool badass character with good motives and sick backstory. He wasn’t the greatest in rots and tcw 2008 but in everything else he’s such a badass.

@@Mateocabrera2389 watch Clone Wars 2003

@@GreaseGrab so basically legends. In canon he sucks

@@Mateocabrera2389 Have you literally ever read his backstory? Or about his motives? Or why he was literally one of the strongest soldiers in this era, and arguably could obliterate Dooku? Until you have you have no room to speak.

Hey you grew a mustache

How are you everywhere?!

Which is weird because ARC troopers are supposed to be independent. Why didn't Jesse listen?

It feels wrong to see a meme account leave a good comment.

Nick V. I think because Rex said any clone who doesn’t obey will be demoted and executed for treason

Ok, now that’s cool.

The lady they got to do Ahsoka’s capture did an amazing job, as well. It takes two people to make that dance look as good as it did.

You could tell, there was certain moves that only Ray Park does. It was amazing

That was so cool tho

He fucking knew that, just acted like he didn’t so people like you would comment

I know at the time it wasn’t know but I’m pretty sure the first arc was meant as a back door pilot for the bad batch show, which makes perfect sense. Having an arc to establish these characters works perfectly in my opinion as it allows us to dive straight into order 66 in the show.

The first arc made me happy, because I’m pretty sure bad batch was originally planned for clone wars season 7, and I saw them on KZfaq as unfinished episodes. I also attached myself to domino squad, as the first thing I saw with clone wars was reading a book about domino squad (cadets, rookies, and arc troopers.)

yeah the bad batch arc is fun and if you watch the show right after it's great

OH. MY. GOSH. Don't get me started on that. And then they just go back to steal more? What the actual heck.

"Well, at least we got rid of the spice" -gromega

I'm surprise it wasn't. It would have been very fitting, the show started with a movie and ended with one.

@John Waters It's also literally his job to not just enjoy things.

The show, as it went on, focused less and less on the characters from the prequels and more and more on the characters we liked that were original to the show. So that's not really a valid argument, because, essentially, the prequel characters aren't as important.

@John Waters Reviewers, uh... reviewers are critics, dude. Is this a prank? Or are you only watching reviews that universally praise or condemn stuff? Because I really can't see how else you could manage to not know that.

And unless I'm mistaken, you've been implying that his opinions are the result of some mental defect, which, yes, is kind of a dick move.

@John Waters Cosmo? Nah, he goes easy on Star Wars. He's got different tastes than I do, but I can at least usually see where he's coming from- WHOA WAIT WHEN DID THE R WORD COME INTO THIS You're defending yourself by equating mental illness with intellectual disability and then using an outdated slur for it? Bold move. Let's see how it plays out for you.

Should’ve had the kidnapping of the chancellor to happen right before Anakin and Obi Wan go to save him

Me: I see 65 likes Also, me: Execute order 66

I’d have preferred if fives was the last of the domino squad tbh seeing as his final arc was fuckin amazing

Zenron this is definitely it chief

I didn't knew because I never watch rebels :P

@@hammadhasan5230 lucky bastard

@@Thomas-fk3xl 😅😅😅

@@hammadhasan5230 same, but I got spoiled of what the hell happened in that show yay 😊😊😊 And I watch some clips too cause frick it, I know most of the character's fates anyways

What kind of brother or human being recommends rebels and solo?

@@JoelChenFa solo is fun, rebels sucks ass doe

@@JoelChenFa han solo is one of the best star wars movies.

@@JoelChenFa rebels sucks but Solo is a space western ok its pretty cool

@@katie7390 It suck's to you, but not to everyone else

As someone who liked watching rebels with my little brothers im offended...

@@thalukesta2112 hey man, you can watch whatever you want....that said rebels is shit

@@thedoomaster14 in your opinion

@@jasonsjustbetter2037 that's the opinion of a lot of people thought, including Marcus (the one whose video you are fucking watching)

@@thedoomaster14 and it's still a opinion, don't get offended when someone has a different view than you dipshit

Thank you, I watched it knowing what happens because of rebels but that wasn't why it made me so emotional. To me this arc was perfect because the viewer knew what was going to happen but not how. We couldn't stop it we could only sit and watch, and seeing each characters reaction was like a punch to the gut each time. It's not about if ahsoka and Rex survived it's about how and what they had to go through

You have 66 likes.... I don't know if I should ruin it

Ok? I truly didn’t care about Jessie or any of the clones since all of the clones we actually cared about had already died throughout the series. They could’ve tied up the season nicely if bad batch came back but I just didn’t care about the nameless clones.

Biffyguy Biffy yeah, makes sense. They probably should have done something about that. But personally, I usually do care about the nameless clones, but you are right that they aren’t enough.

While the Clones are one of the focal points of this show, I think that we all knew the clones wouldn’t be saved. We knew they all had inhibitor chips and there was nothing that could be done to save them. Knowing how they survived is great, but that can never compare to the weight of the suspense we would’ve had if Rebels didn’t exist. We don’t see Ahsoka, Rex, or Maul anywhere else in Star Wars media besides Rebels, so without that show, it would’ve been so gripping to be in the unknown

Rewatching something to make a video about it is different than watching it because you want to.

@Hiazro Kailindo idiocy 1000

How the fuck does that even make sense?

@Hiazro Kailindo stupidity 100

I think he means tv shows. He’s mentioned in streams he rewatches movies pretty often

Yeah, the legit Grievous is a threat arc, the Bad Patch pt 2 on Kashyyyk, Boba's Arc, the Yuuuzhan Vong arc, etc. However, I have to say. Season 6 *WAS* released. Look for it. It's called Season Six: The Lost Missions, it has some pretty cool arcs, one with Windu and dare I say, a not annoying Jar Jar.

@@danielmdax I factored the Lost Missions into my calculation If I hadn't I would have said 26 episodes from Season 6

​@@XtoDoubt25 So not trying to be THAT guy, and I know it's pretty much the same amount regardless, but it's actually *40 because: twitter.com/Vandicoup/status/1291423709484535815?s=20 -- There has never been a season of TCW that went on for 26 episodes. Most was 22 and they followed that structure, for the most part throughout the series. So, going based off that, it's actually 20 episodes for S7 and 20 episodes for S8 since, according to Wikipedia, there were 65 left back when it was cancelled, 13 became S6 and now 12 became S7, so 13+12 is 25 and 65-25 is 40. ;)

Of those 41 episodes, i guarantee you not a single one would be as good as the last four disney put out. They'd all range from martez arc to slightly better than bad batch arc. It'd be fun to see them, but we got the important one.

@@burkehinton5017 trust me, they sound amazing. Boba vs Cad Bane, Darth Mauls escape from Palpatine, Grievous Arc, Yuzhong Vong arc

Never speak of that again. I watched it, and it’s worse that you can imagine.

@@jacksoneee6759 not wrong lol

@@jacksoneee6759 what do you mean, the Christmas special is the greatest thing of all time. If you hate it, then obviously you love the abomination that was the last 4 episodes of clone wars, which is the worst thing to exist in the star wars universe

@@jacksoneee6759 i would gladly watch the holiday specail again. even if it's bad.

@@JayPannell I’m so sorry but, you had me in the first half, not gonna lie-

There will always be complaints!

Literally this entire video is one big complaint LOL

If they made just a movie I would have been okay with that. The show started with a movie it should end with one

The Nerd it could have been a movie

I would have love to see Son of Dathomir replace the second story arc. So the three story arc would cover some Anakin and Obi Wan plus clones, Maul and what happened to the Nightsisters and then Ahsoka and Maul + Order 66 But I think this version should be longer an additional episode for Son of Dathomir and Siege of Mandalore.

We still know nothing about mandos helmet rule....

@Duncan & Suzanne Thomas That was most likely created during or after the Empire’s Mandalorian purge. It was most likely put in place to protect the identities of Mandalorians so they were harder for the Empire to find. The rule probably stuck around even after the fall of the Empire as a tradition.

Yeah, honestly. But then they couldn't have those famous juicy cliffhangers.

They could have made a season 7 with the bad batch arc, the stupid sisters arc, and those that where cut(look up in the comments someone pointed those out and damn they sound super cool) and then having this series finale as a 2 hour movie

There is literally no suspense in the last 4 what’s the worst thing that could happen they lose mandalor

@@jakealexander9160 Imagine you never watched Rebels. Imagine you had no idea what happened to Maul or Ahsoka. Thats the story intended to be told, so that is the story you follow.

You sure you actually watched the video? He specifically says that he knows his complaints are biased and unfair. It's not like he hates the arc because of that, it's just his own personal nitpick. He even calls the last 4 ep of season 7 some of his favorite Star Wars things ever

But he judged it negatively despite confirming his bias. Basically saying "I know this is unfair but it's how I feel anyway." It goes against his previous complaining about Nitpicks and it's inconsistent to say the least, hypocritical at worst.

@HeronKij He tells us when he's stating an opinion. When he states fact he doesn't have to tell us because it's straight forward and we can all see it. The creators obviously wanted there to be tension in these episodes or they wouldn't have had Rex trying to save Ahsoka as they flew out of the Venator. That's why those episodes aren't as good as they could be. It's not a nitpick when it's literally about the suspense because that is what RoTS was about. The suspense of what happens to Vader. We know he becomes Vader but we don't why. The thing with Ahsoka, Rex and Maul is that they’re pretty straight forward and easy to predict.

Except they want us to feel that tension? Their survival is a fact and that fact is not respected when it's conveniently forgotten to make the director's job easier. They put the characters in life threatening situations in order to create tension. That doesn't work if we know they are going to survive. It's lazy, cheating. Sorry, but you have to try harder in that scene, don't expect the audience to give themselves a lobotomy if they want to feel something in that scene. There's nothing forcing that scene to be there and to do that and go like that. It doesn't have to pretend that fact doesn't exist. It's just easier to do that. Look at Solo. No, a Solo movie isn't automatically ruined by knowing Han Solo makes it out alive. Except what it does ruin is when there's a crazy action scene and the movie tries to make you scared they aren't going to make it, in order to initiate an emotional reaction. No. Sorry. You can't get tension from threatening a character's life when you know that character will be fine, it has to be more than that. But directors be lazy and seem to forget that and want the audience to forget that just to make their job easier. Keep making it easy, I'm sure it will work out.

@@sorryifoldcomment8596 alrighty you're clearly very bored if you got that pissy to hunt down my comment to bitch at. I don't care about the stakes, and these episodes weren't made for stakes. I know that mandalore is lost to the empire. I know that maul, Rex, ahsoka, and bo katan live. I know order 66 happens. We all knew these facts going in, and it's pretty stupid to think that filoni was trying to create life or death tension for these four characters. There are different kinds of tension. Dread for order 66. Seeing maul absolutely terrified of what's to come. The discussion between maul and ahsoka. The tension between ahsoka and obi wan/mace windu. The tragedy of ahsokas faith in Anakin being false. Vader thinking ahsoka died, but still taking her lightsaber. This is trying harder, and boiling down storyline tension to game of thrones is working against you. You need to give a shit about what's being presented to you, or stop watching.

@@sorryifoldcomment8596 But anyone in the future can see all the seasons without been spoiled by Rebels, so it's not really a flaw.

K. Flynn This season was planned prior to rebels. You don’t think that the creators would have preferred there being tension of not not knowing whether Ashoka or Maul survive Order 66? Either way, people are getting way too asspained about this point that Cosmonaut made. He’s not making it out to be some sort of objective flaw with the show; he’s just saying how it personally hurt his experience a little.

@@ArmadaX96 yeah but he's similar statements multiple times. I agree that not knowing their fates would've been more exciting, but acting like there's no tension whatsoever is false. Also, considering that they did make rebels and then this season, they did a pretty good job with fitting in to the plotline they had to follow, and still making it interesting.

Damn Mexicans ruined the middle of my season, man.

@@louisgonzales7512 says the guy with Gonzales in his name lol

The bad batch arc was shit too 🙄🙄

Apparently perfection comes in the form of "8/10"

Leon Russell Alien space Mexicans are still aliens kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hZdzhJqH3OCcdaM.html

I mean not to Ashoka

@@FranciscoRodriguez-iq9cb Yeah that's true. Back when there was only five seasons, I used to wonder what it would be like for her to live as a normal person. So I personally was thankful for the episodes she was in, but if they stuck to the original plan without the Martez sisters, it could have been way better.

@@themandarin9493 I watched The Clone Wars Finale after already knowing Ahsoka lives in Rebels (which was kinda spoiled for me on Twitter) and yeah I personally agree with Marcus a lot

@@FranciscoRodriguez-iq9cb Yeah I haven't watched rebels either, but it's been spoiled enough times on the internet so I know basically what happens. Also I watched the Mandolorian. But have you watched the bad batch? If you have comment is it any good?

@@themandarin9493 I have watched Bad Batch, and it's really good so far! First episode is 70 mins and loved every moment. Episode is pretty much a basic Clone Wars type episode but still high quality. Definitely consider watching

Yeah because we already knew anakin would die in Return of the Jedi. So the prequels were ruined. *cough*

Exactly my thoughts

I liked the entire season, especially the final arc.

@@Wade_Tyler but that's his opinion you guys can't just handle opinions

@@Blue-Apple-fc9eo opinions can be criticized dumbass

@@invalid_420 duh I already know that

@@Blue-Apple-fc9eo His opinions are pretty asinine sometimes. Aside from the fact he always sounds like a fucking stoner all the time (which I'm just saying cuz I don't see it said enough), he thinks the Original Trilogy is literally flawless, which is absolutely not true. I listened to all his reviews of the main Star Wars movies, and it boggled my mind having to listened to so much of the harsh things he's said about really good, popular movies, that he just glossed over all the flaws in those movies while ripping the prequels to shreds. I lost all respect for him as a reviewer after that.

or the boba fett arc. That arc could've just never existed and be replaced with something better.

Yooo i didn’t think of that that’d be so cool if it happned

Pretty sure they didn’t choose that arc because it already had a book of it

I hate the Sisters arc just as much as everyone else bur I feel like it would've been kinda weird if we hadn't gotten an explanation to what Ahsoka did in between leaving the Jedi Order and then just randomly turning up on Anakins Venator together with Bo-Katan.

Or the Crystal Crisis arc; that one would have also been so amazing to see :/

i like rebels alright but you have a right to your own opinion but im also guessing you disliked the way maul died

I love the clones. It's not The *Clone* Wars without them. Plus, that arc had a lot of other great moments too, such as Anakin/Padme, Obi-Wan, etc, etc.

Basically it should have been 1st arc : Son of Dathomir comic in CW style 2nd arc : Deleted Ahsoka Jedi Temple arc where she holds off Sidious 3rd arc : Leave it as it is.

Christopher Moskosky I wish... 66th like btw

There are 4 crystal crisis episodes and they are all fantastic

Phantomato probably the best in the series in terms of showing Obiwan and Anakin’s relationship! Would love to see them produce more unfinished arcs

Don't forget the Dark Disciple arc with Ventress and Vos

Thank youuuuu, I also think since season 6 was basically a compilation of episodes and overall unfinished (its called the lost missions for a reason, they couldn't develop it as they wanted to because of the disney purchase), they should have added whatever s6 arc they didnt include. But ur spot on about the arcs, ive been wanting to watch them ever since they got released, would have been amazing. I think in terms of where it fits might have been cool if yoda interacted with bane in s7 than s6.

Obi-Wan Kenobi lol and if he hadn’t included them in rebels then rebels would have been 100% trash instead of 75% trash

I feel that Rebels would have been a lot better if Disney wasn’t involved.

Honestly though, Maul’s death in Rebels works a lot better than however he would have died here. If he died here, it would have been impossible for it to be at the hand of Obi Wan, they likely never would have interacted. I already think that the Maul/Kenobi fight in Rebels is one of the best duals in the series (mostly due to its presentation, it feels very similar to the duals in classic samurai films, which the Jedi/Sith were originally inspired by), but I just don’t think Maul can die any other way than at the hands of Kenobi. That was his entire purpose for most of the show, he wants the kill Kenobi for what he did to him, and I think he needs to be killed by Kenobi to finish his character.

@@duncansalyer2999 Disney is literally the only reason Rebels actually exists

I don't think maul should have died in that episode. I really love how he died in rebels

I agree

No they kinda could’ve just released the first four season as the first four episodes of season 1 of bad batch or smth

@@Exonorm27 No they couldn't. The point of the Bad Batch arc in Clone Wars was to establish the characters and test the idea. Bad Batch serves as a sequel to the Clone Wars, much like Rebels. Therefore, for simplicity, the events of the show should take place after the Clone Wars, as it does. Having overlapping characters in shows is fine, but having overlapping events (in terms of the timeline) split between shows is risky and requires the producers to add more scenes or details to show the audience when exactly something is happening, which detracts from the pacing and can ultimately ruin a show. Therefore, removing the Bad Batch arc from the Clone Wars and adding it to the Bad Batch show is a risky course of action, and is not the best idea, especially when season 7 of the Clone Wars is already fairly short. Now, you could argue that the final arc of season 7 of the Clone Wars did the exact thing I said was a bad idea. That is true. However, there are some reasons that this risk paid off in a way that it can't for the Bad Batch. 1. The plot takes place during important events, and this is expressed to us with great emphasis. This isn't possible for the Bad Batch since there were no important events happening during the Bad Batch arc in the Clone Wars. 2. This plot gives the perspective of 2 main characters that fans want to see more of, and other established characters, such as Maul or Jesse that fans also want to see more of. 3. Usually, the Clone Wars tries to end each arc on a happy note, which draws attention to the arc as you watch it, since you are left wondering how it would turn positive for our characters. This is not something the Bad Batch show can do, since it has no history to draw attention to the direction of the plot. 4. After watching this arc, we see emphasis on the powerful message that the show has been trying to communicate all along (about individuality). It isn't likely that the Bad Batch could have used any of these points above to pull off the same thing as the Clone Wars. Therefore, the Bad Batch show would have to use other tactics to encorperate the arc from the Clone Wars. What tactics they could use to make the time frame clear AND gain traction on the show? I don't know. That's why I think that it is unlikely that this could have been done well.

Bad batch was just straight up terrible besides the first and last episodes. Besides those 2 that entire show is literally just side quests.

Mandalorian, Lego Star Wars and the Christmas Special

The GOAT

THAT IS SO COOL

Isaacreeper whoever did the score for the last 4 episodes NEEDS to do the score for the next Star Wars film

@@rorylennon4043 for sure

@@rorylennon4043 Kevin Kiner, he did the score for both The Clone Wars and Rebels, he did a fantastic job of it too

I've listened to it like three times in the last three days

i love it that they went the ominous synthwave route

But we already know what happens after that because of the sequels!!! Ahaghahagahagghhh!!!

ThaLukesta 2112 at least we don’t know about the characters’ fates

@@hankofjuly yeah good point my other comment was completely sarcastic though

I think most other clone wars episodes had tensions and stakes unrelated to the main characters tho. Usually theres a seperate character or planet or something that is in jeprody and thats what the tension is built from. I think the best example is Obiwan's one girlfriend lady in all the mandalore episodes. You wanna see her survive and her planet be in peace but you dont know if the main characters can make sure that happens. Compare this storytelling to the final Mandalore episodes where the tension is almost completly based on whether people we know that are going to survive are gonna die or not. These are just my thoughts so if you have any ither ideas that'd be cool i guess

The Last Donut Of I course I get it when it comes from the new characters. Stuff like the Umbara Arc probably does do the best in elements like tension, but I’m specifically talking about Characters they existed before the Clone Wars, because from his logic in this video, why should we care about them if we already know what happens? It just doesn’t make sense that you can’t care about what characters go through if you already know where they end up. It’s like with the Marvel movies. Most people expected them all to stick around because they knew they had to for IW, but you still wanted to see their adventures beforehand. Does that make sense? Idk, I just feel like some of the things he says are invalid with what he’s said before in other videos. :/

@@someguy7054 I agree but rebels sorta ruined the hype for this show finale bc it focused on rex, ashoka and maul the three characters whose fates are revealed in the rebels. I will say tho that this guy got over hyped for this finale and that sorta ruined his view of it.

Akindu Marasinghe Yeah, it would’ve had a much bigger if it weren’t for Rebels, but the entire Rebels and Clone Wars situation was completely out of the team’s control so I don’t hold it against them too much.

We all knew that the big main characters were going to live. But hes mainly talking about Ashoka, because before Rebels came out we didnt know if she died in TCW. Like he said imagine if Rebels wasnt a thing and while you watch the finale 4 episodes you could think Ashoka could die. Watching that would have been tense to watch.

It was pretty important and I wish they put it in, but Dave explained why they choose the arcs that ends up in the season. Bad Batch: - Clone focused, especially at Rex Martez sisters: - World building - Ahsoka's character development Siege if Mandalore: I mean it's the finale, why would it be cut out

@@hebthealien Ahsoka Already had character development

Asad Khan you could say the same for Anakin.

@@DARTH-R3VAN the character development of her after leaving the order cause really that scene where Ahsoka rants the Jedi Order wouldn't really make sense unless she goes through events that sets her mindset into that in which she believes the Jedi Order now only cares about politics

Still makes no sense for him to tell mace about palps then kill mace then help palpatine because of a vague promise to help the one he loves and the one he loves dies by his hand because of what palpatine told him, and he sticks with palpatine for 20 years. Makes sense. Ty George.

Focusisimpossible I wanna point out that that special is actually canon

@@jesusplayzhd3728 good for it Still doesn't mean we have ot watch it lol

Leon Russell I feel like I should ask if you’ve seen the Christmas special. I promise you it’s worse in terms of both storytelling quality and execution.

Leon Russell I mean fair enough 🤷‍♂️

Well, Resistance is bad too. But at least, when Lucas realised what they have filmed he tried his best to make people forget it. And Disney is like:"we can put a star wars label on any shit, its our franchise".

He gave it an 8/10... pretty sure he liked it.

@@Sambysaurus Yeah, I understand that, but I really think that the only flaw with the last arc is that Rebels makes it less suspenseful. If a 10/10 is flawless, then it really should be a 9/10 because the one flaw it has is due to corporate shit and bad timing, not the actual craft behind it

@@grantforgues720 You shouldn't pay any attention to ratings, they are meaningless. Just try to listen to what he is saying. He describes it as some of the best of Star Wars, that should be worth way more to you than the rating. I personally loved the final arc, and that is good enough for me. Glad you also enjoyed it.

I also think the bad batch arc was AT LEAST a 7

@@buddygamesdev i think the second arc was at least a 15 out 9

I know right. I feel like his only legitamite complaints were "Martez sisters bad" and "Echo maybe being evil was dumb". But aside from that his only argument is "oh its dumb how thiis season got released later" but that doesn't effect how good the episodes were themselves.

Lonely Tent 2 Asoka & Rez’s escape was the most stressful action gripping sequence in Star Wars in my opinion. The overwhelming number of clones, Trying & failing to stop Maul from stealing the only ship, & the massive god of war scale set piece of the crashing Cruiser was amazing.

I mean it's still valid. Yeah most stories end with the main characters surviving but not all do and that shred of "will this be one of the ones where they don't survive" is what builds that tension. But if you know they end up okay it entirely dissolves that tension. Now it's just left to how good is the stuff they used to fill in the blanks. Thus why he said the last 4 are his favorites cause they filled in the blank with really good stuff. If this had come out before rebels it would of had this tension of "do they survive?" because there is already stuff after this that Ahsoka and Rex DON'T appear in so the possibility remained that they could die.

@@TheGamingBDGR Agreed. This was the point made in the video, it would be a whole different type of tension if we didn't know the fate of these characters, that's what made them so interesting in the first place. So I'm not really sure what OP is on about lmao.

Yeah though he has a point, it’s almost as if he was being paranoid to be critical about it. Scoring it out of fate was dumb. But he did have some well made arguments.

Could not agree more my dude

I agree, I like Cosmonaut but it seems like he has a problem with everything. We shouldn’t of even got this season, we should be thankful that Disney listened to the fans for once. I do agree with the 2nd arc being weak as hell.

Yeah knowing about the outcome things doesn t stop me from being invested at all. But im also a person that doesn't care about spoilers n things like that

@@Coltboy00 He is a critic, it's his job to break apart elements of film and tv and explore why they work or don't. he enjoyed the show, he didn't enjoy having his time wasted with filler that in a final season farewell to a show he really liked, and I think that's fair. he said he was having fun with it and for most people, the question probably would pop up, "Oh wow, how are they gonna survive this?" But if you already know they do survive you're just watching it to see how they do it, not to see if it works. kinda cheapens the experience.

@@Coltboy00 But he didn't say that it was bad. He just said it wasn't literally perfect. If you're saying that's not being "thankful" enough to the monopolistic corporation that almost single-handedly turned international copyright law from a shield into a sword and continually does stuff like remove gay people from movies to appeal to China, I'm gonna go ahead and say you've lost your mind. You don't need to be thankful. You don't need to give Disney praise. Star Wars will keep coming out regardless.

I like the idea of the 2nd but i hate how they made it, too long

@@johannlucas8125 I know! It could have been fine if it was like 2 episodes.

I’ll never forget where I was when order 66 was heard through the force in Ashoka.

The Bad Batch arc was the shnznit he tripping even the unfinished episodes are dope if your a fan🤔

@@delmarfrazier2727 That's just blind loyalty.

Exactly, the second arc kinda sucks, but the first one is supposed to get us back into the Clone Wars mood. We needed that one focused on clones only so we can get familiar with the series again.

Completely Agree, the bad batch is so clone wars it's unfair to hate it because it's what we wanted, the Martez sisters arc sucks but then we get 4 incredible episodes, everyone at the beginning of the season wanted like 20 episodes and now people say there should only be 4? Make up ur mind people

@@holden_7597 I haven't watched the season yet, should I skip the Martez sisters arc?

@@Nindroidgamer110 just watch the last episode if you really care about how ahsoka ends up back.

Nindroidgamer110 yes

Some Guy I wanted a Ventriss/Ahsoka teamup arc. That would have been awesome.

He’s talking abt the dark disciple which is now in a book called that, I heard it’s good and I might read it myself

The Disney giveth, and the Disney taketh away 😞

Ventress got a novel instead, she died at the end

Ryan Borina I’ve read it, it’s good.

Yes! That’s what I thought! Bravo

Im keen to see a RotS supercut with these episodes or these episodes as their own film but i think the tension of waiting each week knowing what was coming helped with the impact that they had

It’s like poetry, it rhymes

some random ikr!

One thing i noticed, ahsoka ends up in the turret gun of a y wing, like her first mission

Then it would just be things that they have already released

The could have adapted Dark Disciple.. :(

I would not be surprised if the Martez sisters arc was something that Kathleen Kennedy wanted to include. It is very hard for me to believe that Filoni would scrap some of the most hyped stories of the unfinished season to give the fans a 4-part story about two boring women who look like they belong to a Latin American feminist movement.... That arc had Kathleen Kennedy written all over it.

@@NerdX151 yeah

@@NerdX151 Dave definitely wasn't behind that arc.

That hurt me bro. The feels. They shoulda listened to Fives rip

Planag7 YES!! Thank you! I don’t understand how he complains about this season being predictable, yet he praised the rest of the show which came out after the OT as well... Yet i don’t recall him saying that the other seasons were predictable.

It increased it for me. My dread just piled up as more and more RotS moments got mentioned.

That's an event, not an outcome.

@@nokachi3339 That's debatable. Most events of a story are all outcomes of events and decisions that previously occured. Order 66 didn't happen randomly. It was part of emperor palpatines plan all along. It was inevitably going to happen.

@@nazeefchowdhury2226 we didn't know the outcome of that event though.

@@nazeefchowdhury2226 There is a difference between knowing that a fight is coming and knowing that a character is going to survive all the fights they will ever have in a series, because they are already shown alive in the future. One gives you a feeling of anticipation towards what is coming, the other means that everything that's coming already has a set outcome.

Kristian R you should watch the last two episodes of season 2 to season 4 that’s the good part

i haven’t watched it either, but knowing about ahsoka, rex, and maul being in the show thru osmosis did dampen the experience

Mike Whale I just can’t after seeing the Lightsaber Helicopters and everything Ezra has done I needed to drop it at season 1 honestly I forgot so much of it that it really didn’t effect my overall experience for Clone Wars

Austin C SAME!! Never watched rebels bought heard about what happens to Ahsoka Rex and maul. I TRIED watching the show for the first time at s2 ep1 but skipped through basically half the episode out of boredom. I’m planning to watch only the important stuff with Vader maul and Ahsoka. So far I’ve only watched specific scenes on KZfaq because most of the episode are probably just filler.

@@ihatetheheat4524 Rex crying absolutely WRECKED me.

Yeah he complained a lot like the finale was purposefully made after knowing these characters would survive but there is no point since the Disney acquisition slashed in half CW without any guarantee for a future installment

@@Kyroro97 exactly. Plus for me and many others we're not fussing over "oh they live so what" we're too drawn into the ethical and emotional weight of what's going on in the moment.

The whole point of it was that that moment was spoiled because of rebels. That's his argument there. If rebels didn't exist those episodes would've been so much better like he said. And of course nobody could've controlled it but it still remains that it ruins some moments.

@@spaceface8504 it's a dumb complaint really-most people acknowledge that yes "OMG IMAGINE IF REBELS DIDN'T EXIST" but they also were sucked into the moment which again HE ADMITS happened. So why even bother complaining about the whole rebels thing

Anything but the sisters😂

Rishi this effort is no longer profitable!

Hondo is best boy of the series and definitely deserved an episode.

Rishi if we would’ve gotten space jack sparrow for mid season 7 that would’ve the most amazing season of all time!!!

I was 100% expecting Hondo to show up and then he didn't.

Jack G bad batch arc was there to show rex’s feelings about the war and it’s toll. I’m one of the few who likes the Martez sisters arc because Trace reminded me of early Ahsoka and Rafa reminded me a little of myself, a little beaten down and surviving in a world much bigger than herself. But they did feel dragged out and cutting it to 2 episodes would have helped.

Fuck it, put the bad batch in there too. 16 eps and i would have liked them all

Fuck the sisters

Jack G I agree 100% I like the sisters arc more than the bad batch arc because other than a few good scenes with Rex I didn’t like it at all felt very kiddish at least the sister arc was setting up for the final episodes by putting more doubts into Ashoka’s mind about the republic

That would be crazy and I would love it

Can somebody elaborate instead?

@@SteakSauceBoss no

Maul is this show’s vagina.

Maul is what

NICTATOR WTF

Justin Peterson Bro I fell asleep during one of them

The problem was they were too long. Like, that whole story could've been a two parter and it would've had just as much substance. The Bad Batch had that really short episode where nothing actually happened, and then that dumb usual Jedi Savior making the local people fight the separatists. I feel like they should've cut those out in order to have an Anakin and ObiWan story with heavy emphases on Anakin's frustration and sadness. Maybe rework Utapau a bit? That would've been pretty sick.

Clacking Computer yeah but the point of those episodes were Rex, not Anakin.

Tom Ffrench utapau arc was good, but it’s a mostly Anakin and Obi Wan centered arc. Dave wanted Rex and Ahsoka arcs

The bad batch arc was fucking garbage too 🙄🙄