Made everything simple as shit. I’ve down loads of timing belts but never a chain, and was pretty nervous going into it. This was an absolute gem of a video. 10/10. Glad the engine was out in the vid. Made everything super clear. Thanks

This is my second comment on this video, but I think it is worth saying. I, like many of you, had a really hard time getting the sprockets off on the balance shafts. In fact, I ended up dropping drill bits and punches into my oil pan (100% my fault- I should have stuffed a rag into the void leading to the oil pan). Anyhow, what I ended up doing (and it worked really well) is I took the old balance shaft chain, and cut it in half with a cutting wheel. From there, I draped the chain over the top of 1 of the sprockets, bunched one end of it and let it bind on the housing. This held the sprocket solid and allowed me to remove and reinstall the new one.

I love the cloyes timing videos. Used this one today on a customers car. They were quoted 16 hours for the job by the dealer, we did it in 6. I also used your video for the gm 3.6 in the GMC Acadia. Great videos 👍

very impressed with the cost of the VVT kit and this tutorial. all aftermarket manufacturers need to take notice of Cloyes and follow their example. much appreciated!

You guys are legends, 5 years and you're still responding to comments! I just performed this job on an LE5 using the Cloyes kits and followed this guide. Thank you for the clear instructions and filming of each step.

FYI: I broke a tooth on BOTH new balance shaft sprockets using the 'drill bit method!' To anyone who had the same problem, I'd suggest wrapping the OLD balance sprocket chain around the sprocket and grabbing with a vise-grip to hold in place while removing/installing the sprocket. By using the old chain, you take the pressure off the single tooth and greatly reduce the likelihood of damaging the sprocket!

This is such a better video than your previous one THANK YOU!! the last video said nothing about taking up the slack of the chain before triggering the tensioner which i believe is why i had slackness in my chain

i just learned how to replace my water pump and timing chain for free thanks just saved me so much more money!!!

Like to thank you guys for the great information! I just finished my first Eco timing chain and balance chain replacement on a 2013 Equinox. With your help I was able to get the job done right the first time. I've done some timing chain's before on older cars and got the much needed help from you on these newer engine's. These are a little bit more complex engine's. Thanks again!

One thing I didn’t hear mentioned is if you’re doing this because the chain guide broke, make sure to drop the oil pan and clean out the oil pickup tube. I am in the process of doing one now and the oil pickup tube was completely jam packed with debris. Had I not done this I’m certain the motor would not have lasted more than 5 miles.

Thank You for producing this awesome video. Watched it twice and I am about done with the project. 2012 Terrain with 90k. I bought the complete Cloye kit for the balance shafts and camshafts along with new VVT sprockets. Everything fits like it should so far.

What a great tutorial you made by this, hats off!

Thanks for this video. I watched many KZfaq videos on this procedure, but this is by far the best and most helpful.

Very informative quick guide. Thx, Cloyes!

Great information. Very valuable as well for Alfa Romeo 159 1,9 JTS engine. Engine is basically same - a GM engine.

Thank you for posting the video, it is very helpful. I would recommend taking the time to set the engine to TDC and not just a downward stroke so that you can use the markings in the video should you accidentally let the cam or a balance shaft rotate. I am in the middle of the job on a 2.0 lnf turbo engine, and the balance shaft sprockets on mine do not break loose like they do in the video. Using a punch and a 3/8 drive ratchet my 5/32 punch broke from the pressure. A friend that runs a shop recommended using a small impact hoping the percussion would knock the bolt loose under less pressure, I used a titanium 5/32 dewalt drill bit this time, and with a small impact nothing broke loose, it only slowly warped the drill bit. I grabbed my larger impact to retry and broke the drill bit in half, bolt and sprockets are still on the balance shafts. Any advice would be appreciated

Thank you very much for your videos. I am just subscribed because they helped me to perfectly install my parts.

This is helpful I just need to find quality parts to install now I swear the last time I watched this it said nothing about the chain tensioner but now seeing it is awesome

Best assistance ever without college needed! Thank ya!

Amazing attention to detail

Excellent walk-through, I'll be doing just that on my 07 G6. My first car may end up a success story.

Thank you for the reply, I will reopen the valve cover and front cover, investigate the possibility of an oil pressure problem.

Good video! Thorough...and thanks for taking time to answer the questions below!

Follow up - had been in and out of my timing case 3 times since. Double checked everything. Made sure balance shaft sprockets were at 37ft lbs - the problem ended up being a DEFECTIVE balance chain tensioner. It had sprung, but after a decent amount of pressure, 15lbs orso, it retracted back into its turtle shell. My car has been down about 3 weeks because of this. Do you have a better quality control option? I wouldn't think a brand new tensioner in one of your kits would be defective, but low and behold. Double check all your tensioner and push as hard as you can after you spring it to make sure it does its job.

Awesome video. Very well explained. Very Quality products from this company. I have used many.

Excelente vídeo muy efectivo y mucha ilustración

Very nice video.. thanks for your guidance.. I bought your pats and installed myself with the engine in the vehicle..

Excellent video!

Just watched the video and think it will help on this first time on this style engine. I did notice that no one has mentioned that if the original guides are broken or have misplaced parts you had better remove the oil pan and clean them out of the oil pickup tube screen. You will have a greater failure later.

Great Demo, very helpful thanks

Great video. I plan to do one next week

This video is a big help. I wish you had a video on replacing valve guide seals on the 2.2 ecotec. Wife's car smokes especially after idling a while at a traffic light or first start up.

Good I needed to review...I'm swapping mine n thinking of keeping the old one to rebuild it....

I've been dealing this problem with my Saturn ion 06 and u make it to simple. I don't have the engine out. I don't have a hoist. I'm going on two weeks without working. I need my car. These videos are helpful but show the what ifs too...

Awesome Video! Thank you so much!

thanks! helped me, alot with my saab 9-3ss

Great video, keep it up. Cheers

Your video and time help me, I thank you

Thanks for video much appreciated 🖒🖒

very good and clear cheers

Nice job

Did this same job with OE parts back in March, noticed the kit had the 3rd design balance shaft chain included. When did the latest kit come out?

These videos make shit like this possible.. THANKS !!

Great vid!!!

Thanks bro 👍🏾👊

Great video! Thanks!

Thanks for the video. I got balance and timing sets installed over weekend(2.2). starts up and has chain clatter. Drove about 1 mile, clatters under load but not coasting. Unceartain if chain tensioner functioning. Do I just remove it to see if its activated and try installing/ activating again ? And will it seat correctly without removing the front cover again? This is my first experience with this type of engine. Thanks

Thank you.

I've got an 07 HHR with 2.2. It currently has 308000 miles on it. Replaced alternator is the only thing I had to do on the engine. It still has the original clutch.

Good video, especially showing how to get rid of the slack. Cloyes has awesome timing chain kits.

I love doing chains on these 2.4s... so simple and easy, it's like they designed it knowing you have to replace em every 100k

Installing this past weekend. I triple check the timing marks and got the car to start. However, I’m with engine codes p0016 p0017 p228d p0089. I did not use the Cyoles timing chain sprocket because it had a circle mark at 4 o’clock. I did use the OEM sprocket.

Good job

A few tips for anyone else doing this (my car is 08 Saturn Sky): You probably need a 3-jaw gear puller to remove the pulley. NOT the Y-shaped/peace sign style. No need to rent the gear puller set at the parts store, just buy a 3-jaw puller. I had to grind the 3 jaw teeth to fit precisely on the pulley. Once pulling, it was easy to get off. I used the old bolt as the pivot point. If you're doing a water pump replacement at the same time - the WP gear does fit in/out of the hole for the WP. To take off the WP pulley bolts, I made a bar with 2 holes to allow me to keep the WP from turning while loosening and installing those bolts. I used an alum bar with holes 1-5/8 apart on center, to put one bolt with a 3/4inch plastic spacer in the WP pulley threaded hole, and using the big WP bolt on the boss near it. Removing the cam gear on the crank required the 3-jaw puller, it's not easy to slip off/on by hand, there's a good amount of friction at the installed position. Removing the bolts from the balance shafts is a joke. I did not replace them as I bent my punch when I tried to loosen the bolt. Remember these parts have been going through thousands of heat cycles and everything can be stuck together. The video uses clean, demo-only engines. Not real life engines. Also, IMO, it's not required to replace every piece. The markings on the OE balance sprockets are marked but hard to see without good light. The main cam gear on the crank had plastic cushioner on it. There was a thin shim on the front of it that covered the part number and the timing mark dot, but it was so precisely fit it was hard to see until I took off the whole gear and touched the shim. In hindsight I might have been able to keep that gear honestly. The main chain for the cams likes to fall off the crank gear. Have a helper to keep it in place while you work. The balance shaft gear on the crank has a springy action to it so you can't try to turn the balance chain drivetrian after that's all in place. The vertical metal tensioner only seemed to fit into place from the top, not the bottom. Buy a plug/bolt replacement for the top vertical chain guide on the driver side so you don't have to fret about losing that top bolt taking it out of the big hole. Apparently it's prone to break. Most of the bolts are 89 inch-pounds but the GM book specifies 106 for some of the bolts actually. I ground a tiny slot mark on the outside of the main pulley to mark TOP and painted an arrow. Hopefully there's no "next time". Putting the main pulley back on doesn't require a special tool, just used the old bolt. I was able to push and wiggle the pulley on for an inch or so, then used the old bolt to press it down. Easy. I bought a flywheel holding tool on eBay for $15, easy to use in the starter hole. Tightening the crank bolt to 100Nm + 125 degrees required 2 passes on the degree bar, about 60 degrees each time, as there's not enough room IMO to go all at once. It's the most bolt tightening I've even done. You NEED a 24 inch or longer bar, I used a breaker bar, ie no ratcheting. The degree measure tool from the parts store is like $12.

Just did this proceedure on my 2013 Buick Verano. Bought an AC Delco kit OEM. Before wjen you drove the car there was like a ticking rattling noise because the chain stretched and was causing P0014 code. Afterwards no check engine light and engine is running smooth again. THANK GOD, at first I thought it was a rod knock

Excellent

well done!!!

Very dam good video

On the 2009 2.2 VVT the exhaust cam wanted to rotate counter clockwise when the chain came off. The 24mm wrench kept it from moving as it rested agsinst the cowl. In the video it shows having to rotate the intake cam in order to get the sprocket on the exhaust cam. However in my case I had to rotate the exhaust cam clockwise to get it on, since I only had one 24mm wrench and it was locked on the exhaust cam. Another tip, when putting the crank pulley back on, you can torque it to the initial 74 ft lbs with a large screwdriver between the pulley and the housing. However to get the additional 75 degrees of rotation I chalked the bolt and pulley and then made a mark to where the bolt needed to rotate to for the extra 75 degrees. Then I used my 1400 ft lb impact gun to get it there. The cams I was able to do myself by hand.

Make sure your PCV orrifice, in the intake is clear if you don’t want oil leaks.

I ordered the 9-4201SX set for a 2011 Chevy Equinox and the links of my chain do not look like the chain used in the video. My whole chain appears a lighter shade of gray with one light golden link and two darker black links. Is this the correct chain or did I wind up with a knockoff?

Thank you sir🙏🙏🙏

NICE VIDEO THANK'S

Exellent video

Hello. Great video. I recently ordered the 9-4201S kit to install into my 2.2L L61 engine. I will also be changing the cap and bearings, the motor is on an engine stand. After Top-Dead-Center, do you suggest I start from the cap and bearings, then work my way to the 9-4201S timing chain installation? Thanks.

Thanks

I just replaced timing chain 3 guides and sprocket may car started and runs but it almost sounds like chain rubbing in the valve cover could this be related to the tensioner possibly it being out 2.4 2011 Malibu

Great video. However, using a punch or drill bit to hold the balance gears in place might work good on an engine stand but was nearly impossible in the tight space of my engine compartment in my 09 Pontiac G6. I did manage to remove both balance gear sprockets with a lot of grit and determination but could not get in a position to torque the bolts when installing and managed to break a tooth on the intake sprocket. Looking through the comments, I see that I wasn't the only one. When I get my replacement sprocket in a couple of days, I plan on re-installing the old chain, crank sprocket, chain guides and tensioner. Then stick a small wood wedge (or a penny) between the chain and the crank sprocket to keep it from turning while torquing the balance shaft bolts to 37 ft-lbs. Unless I hear of a better way, that's what I'm going to do. Now I wish that I left those sprockets in place. They were still in good shape.

Do you have for the timing chain cover off because you’ve lost to change the water pump can you pick it back up in there and Cheyann put it back on

thanks.

Do any of the bolts under the timing cover require loctite? The chain guide bolts or sprockets?

Hello!! Let me start by saying, your videos are “SPOT ON”! Your step by step directions are easy to follow, & very thorough! I am nearly finished with a entire balance shaft, timing chain, & water pump job on a 2012 Malibu 2.4L. With the exception of the water pump, every other part installed, was “Cloyes” brand parts. Top quality parts also, I’d like to add!! I do have a question? As for the timing chain tensioner, is there a way I can verify that the tensioner is engaged, against the guide? I did what the video shows, as for activating it. But, it still seems to me that there is some slack in the timing chain. Is there a way I can verify, (for sure) that the tensioner is in its “activated” state? Any suggestions, would be greatly appreciated!! Thank you! Steve L.

Any reason why my balance shaft gears are at 1:00 and 4:00 for intake and exhaust, with crank at 6:00, after replacing this chain after a water pump/timing chain swap, I have a low frequency vibration and can't figure out where it's coming from.

The factory service manual has higher torque values on some of the static guides on both the balance shaft and the cam chains.. just realized this after following the video.. 89in vs 139in kind of a big difference not so much the 89 vs 109 but still. I also noticed the bolts coming out of those guides had thread locker on them although the manual does not call for it either.

Es un excelente video lo unico que fallo es que el subtitulo no deja ver bien, saludos buen video

Primary tensioner just keeps backing off. I can't pull it out. Any suggestions?

Installed a Cloyes timing chain kit in a 2011 NOX in 2017 without benefit of this video, piecing together information from several sources. Anyone doing it now will have a much easier time, due to this video. The crank bolt deserves mention, however: Does Cloyes sell a new TTY crankshaft balancer retaining bolt? I do not see one mentioned in the kit, and you'll need one. (GM is extremely proud of theirs.) If memory serves, it tightens to 100 NM plus 125 degrees.

Very good!thank….

07 Malibu with a 2.2 I have removed cam sprocket and the chain is loose laying in there but it will not come right out the top like how you did it or the bottom like there is some type of shaft or part of block that it is wrapped around do you have any idea how to get it out

Good video. If the original timing chain guide is shattered, do I need to pull down the oil pan to clean debris.

Is it necessary to replace the harmonic balancer bolt with a new one

Nice

Exelente!!

Bien chingon 😃

2004 SAAB 9-3 linear (used cam sprockets for a cavalier just fine) --yup same 2.0 ecotec engine..

Do you guys have all that for a 2015 Chevy Malibu 2.5 non turbo ?

hi this is a similar engine to the B207R the question I have is that do I need a cam locking tool???

I am looking at the kits online and notice in the picture of the CLOYES 94201SX there are 5 colored links 3 black and 2 yellow and the yellow links are on each side of one of the black links, so how would this chain align

I've been having a hell of a time. 2006 chevy cobalt supercharged ecotec 2.0 lsj. Bought your balance shaft and timing chain kit, because it was about that time and my thermostat had just gone out. Anyway, I'm probably going to call your hotline tomorrow. Did everything listed, everything torqued to spec.Initially, I didnt spring the timing chain tensioner, after pulling it out, it had been released. My idle was fine on turn over, no engine codes (still no engine codes). Seemed a little heavier I n vibration on the jackstands, but I've got billet mounts, so I assumed the vibration was reverberation due to it still being on stands, it having solid engine mounts, and torque damper. Any revving while the tires are on the car, and I try vibrations like my car is going to fall apart. More vibration the higher the rpm goes. Also, at TDC in cylinder on the compression stroke, my 2 o'clock on the intake says exh, where my exh (firewall side), says int at the 10-11 o'clock position. Cam sprokets only go on one way..not that it should matter, but have you heard of camshaft sprokets being reversed from the dealership? I dont think I could possibly have the timing reversed 180 degrees, because it wouldn't start nicely, or at all, or would backfire from what I'm reading? Could you shine some Insight, or is there any chance that an under or over torqued anything in the timing cover could cause the vibration? Sorry for the novel, I'm all out of ideas. My father just got diagnosed with 4 weeks to live and this is my only vehicle. Please please any help you could give would be great.

2011 terrain pulled the primary tensioner out noticed it might not have been activated as it pushed back suddently on removal, replaced it with a new one but happened to be faulty as i could not get it to activate,so i checked and put the old one back in since it seemed ok, activated it replaced the valve cover and my gas consumption and power are amazing now, any idea what happened here? I still have a rattle but seems to be less prominent on startups as before and less frequent, thinking of replacing the oil pressured tensioner today, what do you think? The chain links are solid no stretching has happened on the cam shaft chain as ican detect, Nelson Vienneau. Thanks for the great video you guys are amazing!

when I tried this at 9 minutes with the punch method the tooth broke off the gears, there not very strong and I didn't get close the the torque before it snapped, both gears snapped a tooth off.

Dear Cloyes. Please update the "CLOYES 95381" Timing guide. The bolt hole wall tolerance is too thin. They rattle and break. I've contacted Cloyes numerous times with no reply about it. Cloyes should be the first to correct the 95381 Timing guide since Cloyes has the contract with GM. Thank you.

Muy Bueno

Awesome video... If the engine is out and everything is ready for ONLY this part of the timing chain replacement. Let's see this entire process done in a GMC terrain, not even as close to as easy. And what about taking off the crankshaft pulley/ harmonic balancer? In this video it's simply just pulled off with dudes finger's, when in reality, it's hard as fuk to get it off and I'd definitely suggest getting the tool designed for holding the balance of shaft in place while attempting to remove the harmonic balancer If not you will be fighting a timing problem for sure... So yeah great video if you enjoy watching the video where all the bolts are already loosened and everything's already out of the engine compartment, including the engine..

Thank you for simplifying the process for those of us who are not mechanically inclined but also can't afford to pay a minimum of 600.00 to put it in the shop either. I have a 2009 Chevy HHR 2.2L ecotech motor. I have installed the new kit and the water pump and housing, however when I attempt to start the car, it makes a horrible sound coming from the starter and won't start. Please help, I can't wait another 2 months to get my car up and running again.

Is that balance shaft part number correct? I am getting 9-4202sax

First of all thx this video! If I only replace the main tensioner, do i need to loosen anything or just replace the tensioner and activate with pushing the chain?

I ordered at kit from you all for a 2010 equinox and when I get the camshaft sprockets one with the unique color on the intake side and black on the exhaust and black on crank shaft and line the crank sprocket up with the timing mark my exhaust cam is setting between 11 and 12 o'clock and intake is setting close to 2 o'clock does that sound right

do the timing marks on the NA crank balance sprocket and the force sprocket match up? It doesn't seem like it on the kit I bought. maybe the +/- 5 degrees on the forced is the reason why?

Smart guy