But some people liked Gandalf the Green

Joint best trilogy ever along with Star Wars (4-6), individually amazing and certainly the best fantasy films ever!

just like the whole trilogy

I agree! I like fan-made color restoration.

VHS is the best

@@raf2807 Hahaha, the memories... I've kept them. Honestly. Couldn't throw them away.

Agreed, I think overall the new color grading is better, but in some shots it's "too natural" looking. Like some of the images just ended up being a beige/grey flat looking image, instead of having a vibrant pop. I feel like some images would have been better somewhere in the middle, where the new 4K coloring just looks like the more modern aesthetic of just making everything brown and grey.

If you watch this movie on a proper calibrated screen with hdr it actually looks very colorful and different compared to this video. He probably lost some colors with the hdr tonemapping. And also Don't forget that our screen are not able to fully push the colors of 4k movies yet so basically this movies will look even more colorful over time when screens will be able to reach the rec2020 standart. This master is made to last long like most 4k movies.

@@carrotsmoker9901 I absolutely DO think that the colour grading in the 4K Edition is more pleasant and very much needed in some places, but where it isn't, it's horrid. I'm also disappointed they didn't do a real 4K scan. At least I think so, I don't really see a difference there. Touch-up cgi here and there and fixing parts where the resolution is acting up (maybe it's just my TV, I don't know) would have sufficed. Maybe that's impossible, but it shouldn't be (she said, whilst knowing nothing about scanning film or rendering cgi). I'm one of those boring people who utterly dislike discussing Tolkien's intent, but I'm making kind of an exception now because I think I should be allowed at least a little hypocrisy now and then: yes, mythology, as you say, yet it's a mythology with Fell beasts and Ents. If he wanted your standard "re-writing medieval times"-fantasy he would've written that, but he didn't. There are wonders and magic in his stories. Of course, to someone living in Middle-Earth, what is natural to them looks natural to them, but that's not the case for the reader or audience member. We need to feel that Gandalf's fireworks are magic, because we already know how real fireworks look, and if they looked like that in the movies, it would be pretty boring. And can one actually talk about what colour tones are the natural choice for the flames of a Balrog? Furthermore, if I'm to be even more boring, in a practical sense, we use colours to convey more than, well, colour. The blue tint is cold, the greener grass is welcoming and warm, the glowing light in a vision makes it emotionally appealing, as I find this black and white reminds me of a "before colour TV"-look. If it's fantasy, it's perfectly fine to turn it up a notch. We do it all the time anyway, when we need something unnatural to make it feel natural. My pet-peeve, since absolutely no one asked, is when they put spinach or artificial colouring in pistachio ice cream to make it look tasty. It's not a fantasy elf slushie, it's ordinary ice cream, dammit! But yeah if we want caviar to feel special, we want it be red or black (again, not liking this either, always trying to avoid it, but there it is). When I imagine the mythology of my own country I imagine Oden's horse to look like glowing steel, I imagine the rocks and mountainsides to be almost black; sharp and unwelcoming, the halls of Valhall bathing in a warm, yellow-ish light, I imagine the fields to be grayish-dark green, like some mix between silver and moss. That wouldn't be at all natural, but if someone made a movie about Midgård and everything looked like it does outside my window, I most certainly wouldn't watch it, I'd look outside my window. No eight-legged horse, which is a major drawback, but at least it's free of charge. (OK, I realise that I basically wrote a novel, but I thought your point was interesting and my brain started to do that cool thinking-thing, so I went all in, sorry.)

@@femto8402 Oh, I see. Yes, that would explain why so many examples look different. I realise this is a very stupid question, but if you don't mind: what's the difference between 4K hdr on my phone and on my TV? Despite, you know, the fact that it's just plain stupid to watch the best trilogy ever on your mobile because it's a mobile, not the cinema?

I agree incredible

What does that mean? Double Tap?

@@WinPPham if you’re watching this from your phone you can double tap the right side of the screen to fast forward 10 seconds. Press twice on your phones screen quickly to fast forward.

@@WinPPham Press the right arrow on your keyboard twice: each press of an arrow key moves you 5 sec forward (or back) so with this you can leap 10s at a time which is the interval between the screenshots! EPIC!

@@Mustang46liters fun fact you can actually change this value to 20 seconds or 5 seconds or even 3 in the settings

@@RZ_2K I didn’t know that. Thank you.

Lmao me too

You can still tell a significant difference

😄😄😄

@Martin R. are you blind? 😅

Shame 😂

u watching in hdr??

The HDR replaces the high saturation. HDR+high saturation would look a bit over saturated. It’s still not as vibrant all around, because they’ve been more selective with what gets to be bright and colorful. There are some things that don’t get to be saturated as much, and some things that are saturated way more than previous versions. The best example of them making something MORE saturated that I can think of is the Balrog scene. The flame is now so much more warm and aggressive looking, with the contrast between the dark HDR black surrounding it and the much more vibrant red-orange of the fire.

So did I.

It added to the fantasy setting

I always thought it was a blue tint.

The clips still don't do the 4K justice. I'm not exaggerating, watching it in it's pure form on 4k disc is simply stunning. I've watched these movies hundreds of times and the color corrected scenes are simply marvelous. Upgrade it immediately!

Well Johnny, it would be better if your comment was also fair and consistent. You couldn't mix things up and say I have the 4K disc and the result is not the same as you see on KZfaq. I ask you the same question about different panels from different brands. Do you think you will get the same results ? Of course not !

HOLD IT IN!!!

It looks like spring where the 2012 was autumn.

I don't believe you have such a vivid memory of the original theatrical release. 😂

@@opupfg There's a video on KZfaq called "Why your favourite films look different" or something like that. The theatrical version and the blu-ray extended cut are compared there.

@@opupfg But I do remember how the version I watched (Netflix Canada) looked, which is basically the theatrical release in terms of colour grading.

Having just seen some brand new 35mm trailers of all 3 films, I can confirm.

I barely noticed any better resolution (perhaps a limitation in the cameras used) but I agreed that for most scenes the color looked much better. I thought that for all CGI scenes it sometimes looked too light but for the actual scenery scenes, the 4k looked much better!

I totally agree, having seen these movies upwards of 20 times each, you nailed it about the color grading. But when they get the resolution clearer and the color fixed, it's a total revelation.

I couldn’t agree more, I actually liked some of the greenish colors of the film. It have a better color contrast and had a much more fantastic style to it...

@@Pablofrommerkwood The green tint looked nice for the shire scenes in the original extended blu-ray and I would agree that it's missed here. Although the problem with that edition was that the tint seemed to have been applied to the entirety of the first film. When you got to the mountain scenes, it really ruined the pristine whiteness of the scenary and the color and sparkle of the one ring.

Hmm I disagree. Watching the 2012 blu Ray it almost hurts your eyes how green the shire is 😂 it looked fake honestly. I’d rather have it look like real grass than Disney grass. And as the other comment said, the green tint was applied to the whole movie which looked pretty terrible

That's exactly what I was thinking when it got to that scene lol. He absolutely would have.

4K is also bluray...

@@gorankopcic7827 You know what he meant 🙄

@@jimmneedle I know I was one of those people who watched this in theaters back in the day, I got hooked ever since then.

I kind of liked the green tint on Minas Morgul… but yeah, elsewhere it makes less sense.

@@jimmneedle It was exactly like that. The problem was only present on the Extended FotR BluRay release.

That opening revelation shot of Rivendell. OMG the detail 😲

It's a 2K DI upscaled to 4k with massive noise reduction so you have actually less details than on the blu ray. But the new colour grading and better contrasts are at least good

The 4k version looks sooooo natural in comparison, colors are so much less Saturated and accurate, so idk if I like it, if I was given the 4k version I woudltn say I would be mad 👀 need to view them on my 4k tv to decide

Is there DNR in all 3 movies ?

@@patrickc950 perfect breakdown.. www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Lord-of-the-Rings-The-Motion-Picture-Trilogy-4K-Blu-ray/278517/

@@Vezon2121 It’s not too natural then? Losing its mystical qualities?,..

I was thinking the same thing. I came here to consider upgrading my trilogy but after this I am staying put. I currently have a 5.1 audio so until I upgrade to home Atmos I will wait.

Dear Josh I understand but you have to know that to have the precise colors of TLOTR trilogy I had to proceed in this way. Therefore you will have it in my next comparisons and in particular for Hobbit. Thank you :) !

@@Mymoonization Completely understand! I know that KZfaq HDR is just now taking off and plenty of people are starting to use it so I'm sure you are still experimenting around with it! Again, great video as always and I'm looking forward to your next comparisons!!

My pleasure 👍 !

1080p only and SDR.......hmmmm......very strange ??!!!!

Peter Jackson expressed that he wanted to make these movies hold up on sound and color, even to fix some sfx/CGI.

@@Mymoonization it's a 12 year old TV.

They reverted the colour to look like the original that was in the theatre, so should be ‘more’ nostalgic.

@@vincevirtua yeah but that's just me. I didn't get to see it in theatres. The first time I saw LOTR was as a kid when my brothers rented it from Blockbuster. So that crappy early 2000s DVD quality makes me feel more nostalgic.

I agree, they added light in darker scenes, I don't think it makes them better, honestly.

@@just_delightfulcolor grading old software wasn’t that great either back then.

This was all shot on film, so not sure what you are talking about.

The question is... how are you watching this video? Because on a 4K tv, it’s not washed out at ALL. This is one of the best restorations that’s been done yet

Make sure you are watching in HDR on youtube otherwise theres not much point in watching this.

Update, it's gold. Only complaint is Gollum, he looks CGI now, before it was never obvious. That is not nearly enough of a complaint to not recommend the set.

You mean Dolby Atmos

I agree, I sticking with my current edition as well.

The 4k includes the extended editions.

@@Gpoteat100 what?! I didn't know, are u sure?

Yes he’s right !!!

And u to buy 4 the fith times the movies before it will be upgrade..

But he sure did Cameron the shit out of these movies. What a waste of resolution to dnr these to the level of wax museum.

I’m assuming you mean the color grade?

@@rafaelnahafahik7781 Yes. Not the sharpness and the resolution. Obv those are better in the 4K

In time 👍 !

@@Mymoonization "Time? The answer is Time!"

Yes Time. do you have any idea how much work this gives me to make a comparison anyway ? Also there are two other parts before I move on to the Hobbit. So be patient. Thanks !

@@Mymoonization the “time, the answer is time” quote is a reference to the riddles in the dark scene with Gollum. lol

I guess the 2012 extended version was the one with the blue tint, so no, it wasn't corrected to match the original version. More like the 4K one.

8K or 16K........who knows :) !

Already some 8k tv's available to buy. Hopefully 8k disc players do eventually come. As a few movies now shot using digital 8k camera's. Plus some classic older movies like 2001 A Space Odyssey, Lawrence Of Arabia etc were shot on 65mm film. Which is roughly equivalent to 8k resolution.

@@C--A crazy. This way soon you will be able to zoom and see Minas Morgul in details from the point of view of Gandalf and Pippin on Minas Tirith 😁

Knack soundtrack 😉 !

I advise you to change only the color temperature to zero !

Just get a $180 4k Blu-Ray player or an Xbox One S.

No, it will not. The remaster will be exactly the same.

Ivo ahh I see thanks. The two articles and KZfaq video I found were clearly wrong