Constructing Activated Carbon Bass Absorption Units With Sam Small - www.AcousticFields.com

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Sam Small had a small room. His room is 8' w x 8' h x 9' l. Two room dimensions that are the same produce twice the number of unwanted modal pressures. This is a red area room size on our room size and volume calculator. The red area is a no go acoustically because the amount of room treatment required to fix the low end, would leave you no place to sit. The yellow is fixable with proper treatment.
This was Sam's only room option. He was able to build the carbon, low frequency, units himself and finish them with a paint exterior. I assisted him with placement. Watch the video and you will see some of the unique places we placed them.
The before / after sound treatment video says it all. We made the too small room even smaller. Sam can now make music in the room. Foam round out the treatment for proper middle and high frequency time management.

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@ultrasoundconcept
@ultrasoundconcept 8 жыл бұрын
This Is Really Nice, Carefully thought Out
@securityvlogger6825
@securityvlogger6825 4 жыл бұрын
You rock Dude! Magnificent Effort!
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 4 жыл бұрын
P, Watch the end result and the spectral balance achieved in his mixes. www.acousticfields.com/sam-small-studio-project/
@Jeff-vr6pn
@Jeff-vr6pn 7 жыл бұрын
This is the best autonomous sensory meridian response video ever!!
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Jeff, Thanks, I think.
@Petertronic
@Petertronic 8 жыл бұрын
You mention the red area on your room size and volume calculator. Where is this? I've looked around on your website, couldn't see it. Thanks
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Forestcat, Here is the link you were requesting, www.acousticfields.com/room-size-volume/
@theonlygifmusic
@theonlygifmusic 8 жыл бұрын
Really great video! very helpful
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 8 жыл бұрын
+Full Finger Official Thanks for your support.
@oldestpunkinargentina7766
@oldestpunkinargentina7766 4 жыл бұрын
Not using Rockwool; kudos to you sir !
@Blacklighting
@Blacklighting 8 жыл бұрын
Any graphs of before and after? I would like to see how this affected the room. I would all so like to know more about the carbon in the Speaker stands as I might be getting Speakers that can be mass loaded but if carbon could help the room I would rather do that. My only worry is that the walls of the speakers are rigid so am guessing it will not work because having a flex wall is part of the technology.
@drampadreg1386
@drampadreg1386 4 жыл бұрын
Use sand, the next best thing to lead which we don't use anymore. It will decouple the speakers from the stand surfaces, like soffit mount speakers. (soffit mounts are completely surrounded with sand to decouple them)
@emptysetowl9715
@emptysetowl9715 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if some of the small grains fall through the peg board? I might put some cheap landscape fabric on the inner walls of the peg board to keep it from dusting up the other cavities.
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields Жыл бұрын
The client did not install the burlap over the face of the pegboard.
@PauloGervilla
@PauloGervilla 7 жыл бұрын
Hi!!! What was used to fix/attach foam boards to the side walls?
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Paulo, Its best to extend the foam out from the existing surface about 2-3". We have a mounting system for foam that leaves foam installed 2" away from surface. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nLFlnMhimN69oqs.html
@luigidaniellmusic
@luigidaniellmusic 7 жыл бұрын
amazing video and amazing buid , , my RESPECT Sr.
@rockyslay4310
@rockyslay4310 4 жыл бұрын
Never heard of active carbon but it's just charcoal air filter pellets. During this corona time it' sold out.... everybody's at home making bass traps haha
@chinmeysway
@chinmeysway 2 жыл бұрын
Seems scammish all of it - this company. The dude won’t even talk to you unless you’re ready to drop like 20k!
@bluematrix5001
@bluematrix5001 5 жыл бұрын
Can you buy this DIY plan from acoustic fields and instructions where to get the activated carbon?? how much weight each panel?
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 5 жыл бұрын
B, Yes, we still offer our carbon technology for DIY builds. Contact us at info@acousticfields.com for details. Send your ship to address for freight calculations.
@sweetfoampunishment3286
@sweetfoampunishment3286 4 жыл бұрын
Great craftsmanship! Respect! (How) did you tune the resonators to a certain frequency range? Never heard about the coal thing? Does it absorbe the bass frequencies better than rockwool? Or does it even have a resonator effect?
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 2 жыл бұрын
No tuning required. They are broadband absorbers. They absorb from 30 hz. - 300 Hz. and then the foam face extends the response to 6,300 hz.
@Tazmanian_Ninja
@Tazmanian_Ninja 4 ай бұрын
@@AcousticFields How? And where are the measurements showing/proving they do?
@MrZyrenda
@MrZyrenda 3 жыл бұрын
Do I understand this right, that speaker stand is a BDA with a cabinet depth of about one meter filled with 5 cm carbon and perforated panels and on top the is the diphram? This one must absorber very strong when build so deep
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 3 жыл бұрын
Speaker stands work on vibration management not sound pressure like the BDA.
@jenskuhnemann1241
@jenskuhnemann1241 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, it seems quite difficult to build one of those. Before buying the DIY manual could you please tell me the frequency range they absorb and how they compare to just using porous material? Also are there formulas included on how to adapt the design to the dimensions / frequency needs of the room? From my understanding those are more effective than just using porous material. How do they compare to rockwool with xx cm, helmholtz resonators etc? Thanks for helping. The videos of this channel are really informative. :)
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 5 жыл бұрын
J, The units absorb energy starting at 30 Hz. and going through 300 Hz. for low frequencies. If you add our foam to the face of each unit, you increase the range to 6,300 Hz. The carbon technology increases the rate of absorption by 40%. Room positioning depends on size, volume, and usage.
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 3 жыл бұрын
All performance data is available in the about us section of website
@alexandrevaliquette1941
@alexandrevaliquette1941 2 жыл бұрын
@@AcousticFields Your "technology" increase the absorption by 40%, but it cost 50 times more. So, I would suggest to take a cheaper alternative and use twice as much.
@donpayne1040
@donpayne1040 3 жыл бұрын
That's some serious woodworking
@garyshirinian
@garyshirinian 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for great video . Are those boards MDF? Thx .
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 3 жыл бұрын
G, The BDA unit is all MDF
@garyshirinian
@garyshirinian 3 жыл бұрын
@@AcousticFields thx
@saardean4481
@saardean4481 4 жыл бұрын
Hi there. One question about this great constructions. If Activated Carbon is not an option cause too expensive, can one use Hardwood pellets? Peace and a happy new Year
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 4 жыл бұрын
S, No, you must have predictable rates and levels of absorption.
@saardean4481
@saardean4481 4 жыл бұрын
@@AcousticFields i see. too bad. Thank you for the reply though. Much obliged!
@smokesignals6063
@smokesignals6063 7 жыл бұрын
Great product! If one was to want to buy the DIY plans for the build along with enough carbon for say 2 to 4 units what would be the best way to do that? Is that possible? Thanks again for the video
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 2 жыл бұрын
Minimum DIY carbon purchase is 8 units due to shipping costs. It is 450.00 / BDA for carbon and 75.00 for the foam face plus shipping. Most orders I see average around 4 K.
@donalobroin1775
@donalobroin1775 5 жыл бұрын
Would the activated carbon be effective for a sub woofer stand too, if you made a little box and filled it?
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 5 жыл бұрын
D, Yes, we have such a product. www.acousticfields.com/product/subwoofer-platform-absorber/
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, we offer a whole series of speaker and equipment platforms
@okcyurwin
@okcyurwin Жыл бұрын
​@@AcousticFields how would these subwoofer items effect the energy from a downward facing subwoofer?
@drampadreg1386
@drampadreg1386 4 жыл бұрын
IF you own a studio, you should know to have a wind screen on your outdoor mic and to keep your levels up, you get quiet when you are thinking and talking at the same time. And why wouldn't you use sand to fill your speaker columns with? It works brilliantly.
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 4 жыл бұрын
D, Sand lacks the proper rates and levels of absorption to qualify as an agent in the diaphragmatic absorption process.
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 2 жыл бұрын
Sand is not a sound absorption technology type. It is a barrier material type to minimize vibrations.
@mosesabhishek
@mosesabhishek 3 жыл бұрын
What wood is used on the outer surface ??
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 3 жыл бұрын
Cabinets are MDF. Paint or veneer are options.
@AmielRocker
@AmielRocker 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the video, what is the Frequency range of those bass traps?
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Amiel, The ACDA-10 is broad band from 30 Hz. - 6,500 Hz. Average 25 % per octave absorption coefficient. The ACDA-12 is 30 - 50 Hz. with 30 % @ 30, 63 % @ 40 Hz. and 100 % @ 50 Hz. It is the most powerful low frequency absorber ever created.
@MrZyrenda
@MrZyrenda 5 жыл бұрын
@@AcousticFields How can I build the ACDA-12. What do I have to do different when building the unit?
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrZyrenda make cabinet depth 10" instead of 8"
@MrZyrenda
@MrZyrenda 5 жыл бұрын
@@AcousticFields Thx. Should I add depth between filter and mdf or filter and back wall? Or is it equal?
@BicycleJoeTomasello
@BicycleJoeTomasello 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrZyrenda did you ever do the project did you ever do the build if you did I'd like to hear from you
@doomtodeath
@doomtodeath 8 ай бұрын
Hi Dennis , I'm wondering how I can make front wall(membrane) more movable? it should be loose inside gaps and airtight at the same time? and what grade of activated carbon is near your activated carbon?
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 8 ай бұрын
You are designing a pressure based absorption technology. Everything within the design is pressure based. Your goal for the front wall(s) is to provide the correct density / sq. ft. of the rigid wall. Every structure within the design of diaphragmatic absorber must have rigidity as a primary concern. Keep the wall rigid in connection and let its density work for you.
@doomtodeath
@doomtodeath 8 ай бұрын
@@AcousticFields Thank you so much for your replay, and one question can I make this absorbers taller than 120 cm? For example 180 cm height?
@user-vs9ex7ys3z
@user-vs9ex7ys3z 5 жыл бұрын
I realise how important of room size now. As you always say, a smaller room is cost more money for acoustic treatment. I’m planning to open a massage studio in future. I believe that I will call you latter. All of videos in youtube, your videos are my favourite.
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, planning for acoustical usage at the beginning of a project saves time and money down the road. People don't plan to fail acoustically, they fail to plan.
@ihategravity2310
@ihategravity2310 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Dennis, is there any other alternative to activated carbon which is easier to find because its very hard to get it in my country. Plz help
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 7 жыл бұрын
Hi G, Our carbon is a proprietary technology. It is processed a certain way to insure porosity count and size, material density, and many other variables. Over the counter carbons used for water and air purification will not work. We can sell you our carbon. We manufacture in London and LA. Costs are 350.00 USD / unit plus shipping to your location.
@kniferideaudio5145
@kniferideaudio5145 2 ай бұрын
@@AcousticFields where can I see the science of this method? I can't for the life of me figure out how it would be at all useful, but I'm no expert
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 2 ай бұрын
@@kniferideaudio5145 Diaphragmatic absorption, sound pressure wave absorption
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 2 ай бұрын
Our carbon technology improves the performance (rate) of absorption by 40%. You can use other fills but will have to build twice as many units. Our carbon technology is proprietary and is ordered from us. We have manufacturing in LA and London. If you wish a price quote, send your data to info@acousticfields.com
@buckstarchaser2376
@buckstarchaser2376 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not claiming to be a subject matter expert, but from a cursory observation, it appears that you have scattered thin deadening panels on most of the surface area of the room. The result, because low frequencies are most easily absorbed at a larger distance from a hard surface, is that you were having low frequency issues because you've deadened all frequencies above bass, causing them to stand out. Have you considered using the "live end - dead end" technique? Also, why do all this treatment when there is a ceiling fan spinning right above the listener?
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Buck, Low frequency energy is a pressure that needs special technology to deal with its characteristics. Having a panel shorter or longer distances from a wall has nothing to do with energy below 100 Hz. Live end dead end technique is all about Rt-60 or reverberate energy which is above 125 Hz.
@mustardketchup
@mustardketchup 6 жыл бұрын
I agree. It's a dead room with two shelf speakers in it. I didn't see a sub (which still wouldn't convince me there was that much of a problem). Why would that room have a bass problem? My only conclusion is that those are the only frequencies that can move around the room. Which in turn would be the only frequencies you could truly hear I love the big untreated window on the side wall. That makes for some serious imaging and stage problems, I'd guess. You have one huge untreated piece of glass on one side, and a heavily treated wall on the other (opposite both of your ears, no less). That can't be a good situation. I still can't believe those two tiny speakers created that big of a low frequency problem. I just scratched my head. I've never listened in such a heavily treated small room like that. Can you even accomplish a true stereo image in a room such as that? I am honestly curious.
@weneedtermlimits
@weneedtermlimits 10 ай бұрын
​@@mustardketchup Hmmm....great question and as you see, no answer. No charts, no before and after. This whole thing smells like the marketing scam he rails against. "Noo, you cant use anything but ouir special scientifically developed pellets" Right.
@yunisrojas2839
@yunisrojas2839 5 жыл бұрын
What's the name of the material with the tiny wholes ?
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 5 жыл бұрын
A, In the states it is called pegboard. Internationally, perforated board.
@yunisrojas2839
@yunisrojas2839 5 жыл бұрын
Acoustic Fields thank u Dennis
@levijessegonzalez3629
@levijessegonzalez3629 3 жыл бұрын
does it have to be ACTIVATED charcoal? Or will non-activated charcoal work
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 3 жыл бұрын
Our carbon is a proprietary technology only available through us. We process raw materials to produce proper density, porosity, and pore count. Over the counter carbons used for air and water filtration will not work for sound.
@jasonwilson9775
@jasonwilson9775 3 жыл бұрын
Did Acoustic Fields provide the activate carbon?
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 3 жыл бұрын
Our carbon technology is proprietary and only available through AF. We process raw materials to insure granule density, porosity count and diameter. We also process for moisture retention. Over the counter carbons used for air or water filtration will not work.
@uptownphotography
@uptownphotography 3 жыл бұрын
Well done and cool video. I never heard of using the activated carbon before. Is it very expensive? Any smell and dust using it? Thanks and very well done video. Took a lot of work but must be gratifying. All the best. Philip
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 3 жыл бұрын
Over the counter carbons used for air and water will not work for sound absorption. We process our own technology to insure porosity size and count along with granule density. We also add a moisture retardant. We can offer you the carbon and foam for your DIY build. Contact us at info@acousticfields.com
@kaptenkrut
@kaptenkrut 6 жыл бұрын
Did you buy these plans from Acousticfields?
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 6 жыл бұрын
K, Here is the link to our DIY section: www.acousticfields.com/product-category/d-i-y-acoustic-treatment/,
@riccardobianco9776
@riccardobianco9776 3 жыл бұрын
how many kilos of activated carbon for each monitor stand?
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 3 жыл бұрын
It would depend on the monitor stand dimensions.
@Miesn
@Miesn 7 жыл бұрын
How much activated carbon (lbs) will fit in one absorber?
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Miesn, Most builds take between 50 - 60 lbs of our carbon which is our proprietary technology. We have two manufacturing facilities: Los Angeles CA. and London, England.
@yoyofargo
@yoyofargo 7 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine it actually matters whether or not the carbon is activated. I'd love to see tests comparing this to regular lump charcoal of the same mesh size and density. (not briquettes as they have clay/gravel filler material)
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Yoyo, Larger surface areas are not conducive to the absorption processes we use in our technology. We control size, density, porosity count, and quantity for each specific application of our carbon.
@mustardketchup
@mustardketchup 6 жыл бұрын
That is a load of crap. Sorry. I went to science class. Activated carbon has high surface. That's why it called ACTIVATED CARBON. You're a sham, and your listening room is a joke. Sorry, just gotta call 'em like I see 'em
@violentgrey7144
@violentgrey7144 5 жыл бұрын
@@mustardketchup if you heard the guy in the video, he said it removed around 40 - 50 % of the bass build up in the room. nice troll though.
@mustardketchup
@mustardketchup 5 жыл бұрын
@@violentgrey7144 Put the gin bottle down and go to bed
@mustardketchup
@mustardketchup 5 жыл бұрын
@@violentgrey7144 You're drunk, go to bed
@AmielRocker
@AmielRocker 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, do you offer a DIY for this ACB Panel?
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Arnie, We do. It is called the BDA for broadband diaphragmatic absorber. Here is the link: www.acousticfields.com/product/diy-bass-absorber-build-plans-bda-broadband-diaphragmatic-absorber/
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 2 жыл бұрын
yes go to shop section of web site
@Desert_Cruiser
@Desert_Cruiser 8 жыл бұрын
Does activated carbon only absorb bass or can it also absorb mids and highs?
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 8 жыл бұрын
+MrButteryRounds AC does absorb middle and high frequencies with a linearity I have not seen in over 40 years of research and development.
@Desert_Cruiser
@Desert_Cruiser 8 жыл бұрын
Doesn't the activated carbon have to be processed in a special way to absorb sound as compared to over-the-counter AC?
@Oneness100
@Oneness100 4 жыл бұрын
@@Desert_Cruiser I asked him the same question a while ago and he said that the activated carbon that's on the market is for air purification or water purification or some other usage. Dennis said that he had to create his own activated carbon for this specific application….. So if you don't use his, it won't work quite a well.
@johnasche7962
@johnasche7962 8 жыл бұрын
Where do you find the carbon? What is the carbon called?
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 8 жыл бұрын
+John Asche Hi John, The activated carbon is a proprietary technology and must be manufactured in a way to achieve maximum porosity and granule size. Over the counter water and air filtration carbons will not work. We can license the technology to you for your builds. Contact me at info@acousticfields.com for pricing.
@LIGGYMUSIC
@LIGGYMUSIC 7 жыл бұрын
Why those will not work since i can't see any significant difference ? I mean it is just active carbon that is being manufactured by thousands of companies by more/less same specifications. Thanks
@matthewward5813
@matthewward5813 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is when the conversation ends usually. Once people realize this is crap. And is basically snake oil, they can look into making real bass traps...he tries to throw real science at you on a chalkboard, and then wants you to believe his magic activated carbon will take care of your bass response problems in a room. He wants you to believe that his activated carbon is just the right porosity and density, and that other charcoal pellets wouldn’t be just as effective...
@zileanicathun
@zileanicathun 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewward5813 www.intechopen.com/books/scanning-electron-microscopy/a-study-of-the-porosity-of-activated-carbons-using-the-scanning-elctrom-microscope
@jonasnation1
@jonasnation1 8 жыл бұрын
where did you order your activated carbon?
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Jonas, Our carbon technology is a proprietary technology and manufactured in London and Los Angeles. The average cost for carbon inside a BDA unit is 350.00 USD . This price does not include shipping costs.
@synct
@synct 3 жыл бұрын
@@AcousticFields Wow, that's interesting. So how are your activated carbon pellets any different from all the other activated carbon pellets that are available?
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 3 жыл бұрын
@@synct We use a different granule density to begin with. We control the porosity count (how many holes / granule), the hole diameter or size and moisture retention. Over the counter carbons used for air and water filtration lack the proper porosity size, density, and count to absorb sound. We also process our carbon so it does not retain moisture. Over the counter carbons are designed to retain moisture. Once each granule fills with moisture, it loses performance quickly.
@helmanfrow
@helmanfrow 2 жыл бұрын
Now all you need are some Mackie CR-X monitors to match those cabinets. :)
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 2 жыл бұрын
Matching speaker manufacturers to acoustic treament makes no sense. You must look at the energy you will place within the room with your intended usage. The room only sees energy.
@helmanfrow
@helmanfrow 2 жыл бұрын
@@AcousticFields These bass traps have a bright green trim inset from the front edge. Mackie CR-X speakers have a bright green trim inset from the front edge. Matching green trim to green trim makes perfect sense.
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 2 жыл бұрын
@@helmanfrow It makes no sense.
@IDontExist14
@IDontExist14 3 жыл бұрын
Bro I have watched this video many times, can I make mine with regular coal instead of activated one, can't find the answer anywhere
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 3 жыл бұрын
No, over the counter carbons will not work inside a diaphragmatic absorber. You must increase the porosity count, size, and granule density using special manufacturing techniques. You also must process each granule to avoid moisture absorption.
@IDontExist14
@IDontExist14 3 жыл бұрын
@@AcousticFields thankz for clearing it up, I'm from India and no where can I afford ur technology, but thanks for the reply, 🍻 cheers
@XarhsKaramolegkos
@XarhsKaramolegkos 5 жыл бұрын
i just bought the plans from the site.. should i buy activated carbon? the plans do not say anything about carbon only foam .. what i should do?
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 5 жыл бұрын
X, The carbon is available for purchase and ships from London.
@shaharyarsheikh6878
@shaharyarsheikh6878 5 жыл бұрын
Hi dennis. I'v been checking your videos for a while. You present sound knowledge of acoustics. Id like to curb down my room bass responce. Too boomy. I hate it. But i cant afford to spend that kinda money on proper stuff as you mention. Many people just live with it. Im one of em. But ill surely invest in carbon technologies
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 5 жыл бұрын
S, We can assist you with your room. Fill out the information in this link: www.acousticfields.com/free-room-analysis/
@chinmeysway
@chinmeysway 2 жыл бұрын
Yeahno- don’t get robbed - this is not the only way to go!
@oinkooink
@oinkooink 2 жыл бұрын
Don't the sound waves just reflect off the mdf?
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 2 жыл бұрын
Low frequency sound waves are pressure based. They go through the MDF. Middle and high frequency ray energy is reflected and absorbed at certain frequencies with the MDF.
@fdschuler7863
@fdschuler7863 5 жыл бұрын
How can you have a bass problem with NS10s, they have no bass.
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 5 жыл бұрын
F, Some engineers add subwoofers to their system. Study the term subwoofer on the net.
@fdschuler7863
@fdschuler7863 5 жыл бұрын
Acoustic Fields I have focal twins with a sub. And Dynaudios, and ATC's. NS!0's are for engineers that mixed too loud in the 80's and can only hear 400-2.5k.
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 5 жыл бұрын
F, Not my favorite speaker either. However, I do not believe that this is their design frequency range.
@haitmoumad
@haitmoumad 4 жыл бұрын
He uses Yamaha HS series (looks like HS5 maybe bigger) speakers. Sound completely different than the old hifi speakers, NS10.
@sunsetrecording6952
@sunsetrecording6952 3 жыл бұрын
Fd Schuler ...sorry, didn’t catch that. Been mixing rock since 1987. Ya got me!
@RoboticusMusic
@RoboticusMusic 6 жыл бұрын
Carbon... but why? Do you have a scientific comparison to Ultratouch cotton batting which is known to be the best basstrap material?
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 6 жыл бұрын
R, There is no such thing as "best" anything. You must match the density of the cabinet, the density and distance of the two front walls, the cabinet depth, and the porosity and density of the internal fill material. We have tested cotton. It does not provide the rates and levels of we require in our performance design parameters.
@puresonic7568
@puresonic7568 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the video. Before and after tests would have helped to see how well these devices work. I see Acoustic Fields rep doing a lot of explaining but I yet to see any real life measurements on anything. I appreciate you showing how to build them but really without taking them for a test drive the whole topic is left up in the air. Like build a car but don't show how it drives.
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 3 жыл бұрын
P, Product test results are available on our web site.
@scottschroeder4090
@scottschroeder4090 7 жыл бұрын
What kind of activated carbon is used? Anthratics Coal Based Activated Carbon, Lignite coal based activated carbon, Coconut Shell based Activated Carbon, Wood based Activated Carbon...? do yall happen to have any technical specs on yalls carbon? It seems like a good deal pound for pound especially if its specially made
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Scott, Our carbon technology is a proprietary technology. we manufacture it to ensure proper density, size, and porosity count. Carbons used for air and water filtration will not work inside our units.
@ArmorKingEmir
@ArmorKingEmir 7 жыл бұрын
I think you say it so that others wont make the absorbers but buy from you instead.
@soulchorea
@soulchorea 6 жыл бұрын
this is the definition of 'proprietary' - same reason Coca-Cola won't tell us exactly what's in that formula. Can't have us running around making (and selling) their invention, right?
@mustardketchup
@mustardketchup 6 жыл бұрын
Activated carbon is activated carbon. It's dense with a very high surface area for absorption. Google is your friend - NOT this guy.
@tecnolover2642
@tecnolover2642 3 жыл бұрын
That room dimension seems very troublesome. Aren't you supposed to avoid same dimensions? Your ceiling is same as your width. Also the whole space is nearly a cube!
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 3 жыл бұрын
We have the treatment rates and levels of absorption to treat any size room.
@tommasogiannessi4286
@tommasogiannessi4286 8 жыл бұрын
How Much did him spent for each one???
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 8 жыл бұрын
+Tommaso Giannessi Hi Tommaso, The carbon is 350 / unit and the rest of the materials run around 300 USD. You supply the labor.
@tommasogiannessi4286
@tommasogiannessi4286 8 жыл бұрын
300$ for the four cabinet right?! activated carbon is 5€/kg here in italy, i think i can spend a little less for the carbon, as i think it will contain less than 70kg(155pound) Thanks
@alexfont
@alexfont 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Tommaso, did you tried the carbon from Italy? I'm thinking the same to get it from Spain also... did it work for you? Thanks!
@violentgrey7144
@violentgrey7144 5 жыл бұрын
@@AcousticFields not too bad.
@diegss1
@diegss1 5 жыл бұрын
Alex Font did it work for you?
@freeloader1985
@freeloader1985 2 жыл бұрын
Why carbon and not sand?
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 2 жыл бұрын
Sand is not a sound absorption technology. Sand is a barrier technology. Two completely different functions.
@michelhaineault6654
@michelhaineault6654 4 жыл бұрын
why ''activated carbon'' and not only carbon ?
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 4 жыл бұрын
M, Four reasons: Granule density, porosity count, pore diameter, moisture retention
@studioguy1874
@studioguy1874 8 жыл бұрын
Hot glue gun - your new best friend
@BogdanWeiss
@BogdanWeiss 7 жыл бұрын
Without any before & after measurements - I don't see the point of this video > This room being an almost perfect cube, would have some of the worst acoustics imaginable, so anything you throw in there will improve the situation. The speaker "stands" appear to have more $$ "worth" of the activated carbon then the speakers used for monitoring.... Why aren't architects required to learn some basics of acoustics is beyond me... If someone asked me to improve the sound of that room - I would run !!! I mean all this effort & expense to go from horrible to really bad !? I know that it's been improved - but for what it would cost in acoustical treatment to make that room sound acceptable, it would be probably cheaper to build a new room ;-)
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Bogdan, One must always weigh the cost / benefit ratio to any project especially with sound in small rooms. Most of the time my clients do not have another space to use even though that is usually my first recommendation. A lot lack budget to acquire a new room and move to different locations. They do however, have budgets to treat low, middle, and high frequency issues by acquiring materials and then using their own labor and carpentry skill set. I would estimate that Sam had 3,000 USD in material costs contributing his own labor. He took his "cube" and treated it using my materials and his labor. He turned a mix done in a "cube", into a mix that had good spectral balance. I think any of us in the music business that work in small rooms would consider that effort well done and take our hat off to Sam for his efforts.
@BogdanWeiss
@BogdanWeiss 7 жыл бұрын
The magic cost/benefit ratio... Indeed!!! So much in this game is subjective, I guess with so much bad sound & bad/terrible acoustics even small improvements are appreciated... What I don't agree with is the placement, wouldn't placing the absorber where the velocity propagation is minimum & the pressure wave maximum be more effective? I mean every physics & acoustics book that I've come across is consistent on this point, it's easily measured & explained. And how can a single bass absorber deal with the issue in a cuboid room? engineering.purdue.edu/ME513/animations/room.htm How would you deal with a client, who would say "look I did what you recommended spent $3-5k & the end result is still unsatisfactory" ? I think you're a very brave man ;-)
@soulchorea
@soulchorea 6 жыл бұрын
He could easily reply to that question with, "look I told you this room is too small; I can't rearrange the laws of physics but we can work with what you have and you'll just have to deal with 'unsatisfactory' until your situation improves". I mean who can argue with that? You can't expect perfection from even the most "ideal" size room, since such a thing doesn't exist. It's just a game of do the best you can with your current circumstances, and chill the heck out about the rest, u know?
@brettus9115
@brettus9115 5 жыл бұрын
@@BogdanWeiss You blurt pure shit exactly like your first name.... Put up a video of your perfection or stfu keyboard wiki hero!
@BogdanWeiss
@BogdanWeiss 5 жыл бұрын
@@brettus9115 hey dickhead!!! It's called measurements!!!
@lBuckman13
@lBuckman13 7 жыл бұрын
I wasn't expecting an English Accent..... lol
@djentlover
@djentlover 3 жыл бұрын
I was also wondering what an English man is doing in Texas 😀
@drampadreg1386
@drampadreg1386 4 жыл бұрын
Pelleted carbon is garbage, only use loose carbon with no glues in them that cover most of the openings on the surface area. And sand would do some good in your stands, carbon is a waste of money there. You want dense and loose, not light and porous.
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 4 жыл бұрын
D, In a diaphragmatic pressure reducing device you must control density, porosity count, porosity size. This is a strict requirement Of the DA process. Sand is not a material that would produce the required absorbent coefficients needed in a diaphragmatic sound absorbing technology. You are confusing barrier material technologies with absorption technologies.
@Canadian_Eh_I
@Canadian_Eh_I 3 жыл бұрын
@Jawbone Rodeo Why do people always ridicule what they dont understand?
@kennethsrensen7706
@kennethsrensen7706 3 жыл бұрын
What he fail so explain with NORMAL words is this - Yes you can use normal carbon BUT the density , porousity ect ect will be unpredictable because all the pieces from not being sme size will vary in all details / specs . The ''' activated '' ( call it what you want ) benefit from all being in same size , density ect ect . This makes it possible to predict how it will behave and it's now possible to make real calculations. If you just use any type carbon ( yes it will work ) you will end with more random results and risk of ending with a finished product that simply doesnt do what you needed is really high . You can use other materials as well instead of activated carbon , but again you MUST be able to have something where the data doesnt vary so you can take advance of it and calculate what you need . So for most people it's easier to simply just buy a material where all data is guarantied to be equal in the whole product . Materials that can be used is an extremely long list and some better than others ( more precise data ect ) Yes you can use ordinary carbon , but data will vary extremely from little piece to piece . Yes I agree with you that he should have used sand in the stands . You want the speaker stands to be as '' dead '' and heavy as possible , but I guess he use the stands to also function a absorbers too and that can explain why using those carbon ( after my opinion a bad choice but i see the idea )
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