Control Ultimate Edition: PS5 vs Xbox Series X/S - 60FPS and Ray Tracing Modes Tested

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3 жыл бұрын

An Ultimate Edition of Control gives us the perfect chance to see new features added on PS5, Xbox Series X and Series S. All machines receive 60fps support, while the two premium consoles have an extra 30fps ray-tracing mode. How do they all stack up? And are the performance issues of last-gen versions behind it? Tom and Alex find out.
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@randallorndorff
@randallorndorff 3 жыл бұрын
We've reached a point where 3 fps frame-drop is an issue and I'm grateful. I...remember darker times.
@nelsoncabrera6464
@nelsoncabrera6464 3 жыл бұрын
I lived through the N64 era... the fact that we have consoles that can hit 120fps now it's just so mind blowing to me.
@Ultimagicarus
@Ultimagicarus 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, Shadow of the Colossus and Metal Gear Solid 3 is very playable back in the day.
@maheshmurali2697
@maheshmurali2697 3 жыл бұрын
Lol yeah I played on both performance mode and graphics mode I'm okay with both the modes.
@uum6
@uum6 3 жыл бұрын
Cyberpunk entered the chat
@rainer23423
@rainer23423 3 жыл бұрын
@@uum6 Yeah if you play Cyberscam on old gen you can revive the darker times.
@BlackBird0050
@BlackBird0050 3 жыл бұрын
They should release 1080p performance RT mode just like spiderman
@amnril
@amnril 3 жыл бұрын
Even if it meant lowering to 1080p I’d play it in that mode.
@talalahsan6824
@talalahsan6824 3 жыл бұрын
They said there is team is small so they cant.
@Aarkwrite
@Aarkwrite 3 жыл бұрын
I was looking for someone to bring this up lol. I hope so too. I want my RT and 60.
@teehundeart
@teehundeart 3 жыл бұрын
Probably more of a 900p60fps mode
@freemanzweidreifunf8025
@freemanzweidreifunf8025 3 жыл бұрын
i think they wont, sadly. The Insomniac team is just to talented to make them a standart for expectasions...
@oscarmedina7368
@oscarmedina7368 3 жыл бұрын
The more I see this Series S perform games like this the more I'm glad I was able to get it for that $300 price tag. Not a bad system at all.
@PotatoJonson
@PotatoJonson 3 жыл бұрын
So happy with my Series S and my 1080 Tv.
@MadX8
@MadX8 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely. The fact that a 300$ console can run a game like that at 60 FPS is something that amaze me... For the same price on the market, you have a Switch. I love the Switch don't get me wrong, but if you just want your 1080/60fps (It's not like 4K is a standard, even though people talk like it is), you're good to go with a Series S and the Game pass. Hopefully we'll have more 60fps on the Series S in the future
@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe
@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe 3 жыл бұрын
@@MadX8 yes im also loving my series S. wanted an x originally but couldnt get one so bought the S and im so impressed that now im not going to buy a series X. i got a external hdd for cheap so the storage issue is solved.
@LNCRFT
@LNCRFT 3 жыл бұрын
@@MadX8 Sadly, there are still games which do run better on One X than on Series S. The Long Dark for example runs at a native 2160p at 30 fps on One X and 1080p at 30 fps on Series S because it's utilizing base Xbox One code.
@justaguy2501
@justaguy2501 2 жыл бұрын
I think the series s is good but only for now . I mean rn it can play games 900p -1080p 60fps but what about the future ? it probably won't be able to do that in future . I think it probably won't even be able to do 1080p 30fps after 5 years .
@SolidMGSnake
@SolidMGSnake 3 жыл бұрын
Performance RT mode would've been nice.
@SalveMonesvol
@SalveMonesvol 3 жыл бұрын
The thing is, each step of ray tracing takes up a little over 1ms and it doesn't matter at which resolution you do it, so 60fps with RT is really difficult. I guess there could be a 1080p 40fps mode with RT and ultra settings. It would work well since 120hz/3= 40 so there would be even frame pacing, with the added beneffit that if there is a dropped frame, you wouldn't feel it nearly as much as if dropping from 30 to 20.
@patrickang7739
@patrickang7739 3 жыл бұрын
@@SalveMonesvol Ultra settings? Consoles? Are you on drugs? This game is on mostly low, mixed with some medium with some that appears to be lower than low that can't even be set on PC
@SalveMonesvol
@SalveMonesvol 3 жыл бұрын
@@patrickang7739 The question is: Why would a game not run at even 4k30 on an RTX 3090? Because if it can't do 1080p on ps5, it can't do 4k on 3090 either. Let that sink.
@monkfishy6348
@monkfishy6348 3 жыл бұрын
@@SalveMonesvol My 3080 can do 4K max settings at 30fps. I don't play it like that, but I have tested it.
@SalveMonesvol
@SalveMonesvol 3 жыл бұрын
@@monkfishy6348 Then a Series X can do exactly the same @1440p. What they can't do well, is RT above 30fps.
@stewardappiagyei6982
@stewardappiagyei6982 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if I too can summon Alex by saying "ray tracing" twice while staring in a mirror.
@rlfernandes9538
@rlfernandes9538 3 жыл бұрын
You gotta mention Crysis somewhere for it to work, or else his shrine won't ping him.
@festive5476
@festive5476 3 жыл бұрын
@@rlfernandes9538 Don't forget Turok
@blindtorpedo
@blindtorpedo 3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@ClapperDan
@ClapperDan 3 жыл бұрын
You have to first believe that we live in a simulation so that the reflection is ray traced
@sqeaky6921
@sqeaky6921 3 жыл бұрын
Lmfao
@musty8748
@musty8748 3 жыл бұрын
Files sizes are also interesting: PS5 = 25GB XSX = 42GB
@DraculVaDomni666
@DraculVaDomni666 3 жыл бұрын
Better compression.
@alexperez1519
@alexperez1519 3 жыл бұрын
Also free on ps5!
@verityz470
@verityz470 3 жыл бұрын
Next gen compression in use VS next gen compression not in use
@BF2shaun37
@BF2shaun37 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't that the Kraken compression system they were talking about?
@XGlite015
@XGlite015 3 жыл бұрын
how about series S. it loaded the fastest, does it have the biggest or smallest file size.
@KB-nt6bw
@KB-nt6bw 3 жыл бұрын
Any Game: *Releases: Next Gen Update* DF: "Business is boomin'!"
@AbrahamZX1
@AbrahamZX1 3 жыл бұрын
They didn't mention that the PS5 file size is around 25Gbs, while it's 42Gbs on the Series consoles. That makes the similar loading time more impressive.
@parazels83
@parazels83 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting information!
@brucecarter6205
@brucecarter6205 3 жыл бұрын
All that tells me is that the Series X/S versions didn’t receive the same amount of time and optimization. Makes it even worse when you consider that it’s free on PS and $40 on Series consoles. Sad.
@ghostthough7874
@ghostthough7874 3 жыл бұрын
It's not about optimization but rather how the Xbox Series S/X handles compression. PlayStation 5 can decompress and move data faster than the Xbox Series S/X because of the architectural improvements. So if the data is compressed as much on Xbox Series S/X as it is on the PlayStation 5 it would result in longer loading times and possible pop-in due to taking more time for the system to decompress the data.
@melxb
@melxb 3 жыл бұрын
@@ghostthough7874 yeah odd even on another comparison channel they have ps5 load faster by a couple of seconds while here they say series s and x beat ps5 by a couple of seconds, so it seems to be random loading depending on location
@vegandouchebag5617
@vegandouchebag5617 3 жыл бұрын
@@brucecarter6205 The PS5 has better compression technology, and they just filed another patent to make compression even better by significantly shrinking file sizes without quality loss.
@pixel9719
@pixel9719 3 жыл бұрын
This game is awesome,been playing it all day on the 60fps mode and I like the haptics when you fire a weapon
@positivevibesrfc
@positivevibesrfc 3 жыл бұрын
I am looking forward to trying it. I am playing AC valhalla and Immortals which are big games. I will get tonit eventually. The haptics are cool on PS5.
@bet9898
@bet9898 3 жыл бұрын
O hold me richard !!! Lol ...I can't bare the millisecond frame drops lol.. na seriously I have this game on PC I only have a 1660 super at 1440p 60 frames and my damn PS5 is running it pretty close if not better .. you guys also gotta try out division 2 , 4k 60fps update , it looks phenomenal... The best $8.99 I ever spent on game lol..add me on psn If u guys want..bet9898.
@kaleidoskope4314
@kaleidoskope4314 3 жыл бұрын
@@wizzenberry God of War looks pretty good on my PS4. I am currently playing through Horizon Zero Dawn on my new rdna 2 6800 xt @ 1440p with all settings maxed out it's drop dead gorgeous.
@melxb
@melxb 3 жыл бұрын
@@kaleidoskope4314 yeah and if u can experience horizon zero dawn with hdr, def do so, some of the best ive seen
@voided_reality6863
@voided_reality6863 3 жыл бұрын
Not just when firing weapons, that little tap when walking that changes depending on what you are standing on or what your pace is, that is the real winner.
@AntonioGrasso86
@AntonioGrasso86 3 жыл бұрын
Something technical that is also probably worth mentioning is that Control Ultimate Edition on PS5 is 42% smaller than Xbox Series X and how/if that impacts the game.
@19RoFlMao19
@19RoFlMao19 3 жыл бұрын
Yea and my ps5 literally takes 4 - 5 sec to load and get into a game. I dont know why DF ps5 takes 11.41 sec.
@daryllivingstone6257
@daryllivingstone6257 3 жыл бұрын
Digital foundry are bias towards xbox and anything Microsoft have people not noticed that
@cir-ce1043
@cir-ce1043 3 жыл бұрын
@@19RoFlMao19 user location is a factor that affects loading speed.. source: Google
@19RoFlMao19
@19RoFlMao19 3 жыл бұрын
@@cir-ce1043 i see your point. But a 6 sec difference? Also i will take your point with a grain of salt as google is not a credible source of research.
@gauravnegi4312
@gauravnegi4312 3 жыл бұрын
@@daryllivingstone6257 said no one ever.
@TigerChamp99
@TigerChamp99 3 жыл бұрын
Finally Tom is getting the high profile videos (after Cyberpunk on PS4)
@ericcarlton87
@ericcarlton87 2 жыл бұрын
Love your reviews, you guys do a really fantastic job of laying everything out there. Actually, just finished your Elden Ring performance review, very well done.
@mohammedyasin2087
@mohammedyasin2087 3 жыл бұрын
When you're too early and upset that the experts in the DF comments section haven't summarized the video for you.
@femto8402
@femto8402 3 жыл бұрын
They will come very soon my friend
@carolinagamer2874
@carolinagamer2874 3 жыл бұрын
Already seeing comments like "another L for SeriesX"
@femto8402
@femto8402 3 жыл бұрын
@@carolinagamer2874 yeah from both "sides" actually
@certified6342
@certified6342 3 жыл бұрын
@@carolinagamer2874 it's fan boys on both sides are just as bad, look at the hitman comments. People needs to just enjoy what they are playing instead of worrying about minimal differences.
@certified6342
@certified6342 3 жыл бұрын
@Steps I've seen both sides so not pointing the finger at one or the other, both are bad
@yoyo-nf1ww
@yoyo-nf1ww 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for the deep analysis, guys. cheers
@turrican4d599
@turrican4d599 3 жыл бұрын
Is every graphical setting the same on both nex gen consoles, e.a. everything on LOW and missing shadows everywhere?
@TimtimGaming
@TimtimGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Firs time playing, PS5 graphics mode. The RT really brings the environment to life and draws me in, happy with the rock solid 30fps for this fidelity tbh....but the real winner is the use of the Dualsense, the feeling of your steps on different surfaces and trigger resistance, just awesome!
@Realmasterorder
@Realmasterorder 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty good but when u played the 60fps going to 30 wont feel too nice,even if RT is impressive.
@shreder75
@shreder75 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. It's cool, but RT isn't transformative enough to go from 60 to 30, imo
@calebgao6931
@calebgao6931 3 жыл бұрын
but you could take cool screenshots on rt mode tho
@UltraCasualPenguin
@UltraCasualPenguin 3 жыл бұрын
It only lasts few minutes before your brains adjust to change.
@thorocomments817
@thorocomments817 3 жыл бұрын
Ehhhhhh... A consistent 30fps is fine
@GameslordXY
@GameslordXY 3 жыл бұрын
I would say that most people would get used to quickly. Like dozens of millions who enjoyed 30fps games on the last generation of consoles.
@TheBogologo
@TheBogologo 3 жыл бұрын
Playing the whole game in graphics mode. Idgaf looks clean asl
@sabus1265
@sabus1265 3 жыл бұрын
Jesse becomes director. Dylan dies. Idgaf
@TheBogologo
@TheBogologo 3 жыл бұрын
@@sabus1265 Jesse becomes director in the beginning of the game? How is that a spoiler? Are u actually mad that people play in graphics mode lmao.
@transfo47
@transfo47 3 жыл бұрын
Switching between the two, I can't do it. RT looks great but it's just too janky compared to 60FPS.
@TheBogologo
@TheBogologo 3 жыл бұрын
@@transfo47 my eyes get used to it but it is hard from time to time when I switch to performance mode and go back to graphics
@Pandahhhhhhhh
@Pandahhhhhhhh 3 жыл бұрын
@@benvids shh let him have this. Life is rough atm for him
@joeystanley6839
@joeystanley6839 3 жыл бұрын
Would've been awesome to have RT at 60fps at 1080 or something. Jarring to go from 60 to 30 in a fast paced game.
@tastet5565
@tastet5565 3 жыл бұрын
It’s jarring in almost any game. As a lifelong console gamer I’m loving the 60fps. I don’t ever want to play at 30 again I don’t care what graphical improvements I forfeit
@DanKaschel
@DanKaschel 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure the 1st gen rt cores could handle it even at 1080p. The one example we have (spiderman) doesn't use rt very extensively.
@MrStrictlyOLED
@MrStrictlyOLED 3 жыл бұрын
@@tastet5565 OMG that’s exactlyyyyyyyyy how I feel playing 60 now I could never ever go back to 30 keep the day tracing with 30 I’ll take 60 all day everyday
@gooddoc8129
@gooddoc8129 3 жыл бұрын
60fps or nothing 30 out
@prcastro42
@prcastro42 3 жыл бұрын
Well I would think they could. I mean spiderman miles can to rt with 60fps. But I'm no expert.
@justspaztik
@justspaztik 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not crazy about the dithering look in certain reflections/ssao
@shreder75
@shreder75 3 жыл бұрын
Ray tracing is cool, but not enough to get me to switch from performance mode. Playing for the first time on series x, and buttery smooth perfomance mode is awesome. Trippy, fun game.
@GameslordXY
@GameslordXY 3 жыл бұрын
You can always do 2nd playthrough in Graphics mode
@lotusson
@lotusson 3 жыл бұрын
So far I've been unimpressed with RT reflections. It's visually stunning but, IMO, isn't so stunning to warrant the FPS cost. I'd much rather play at 60 with any spare horse power reserved for SSR or HDR.
@C4CH3S
@C4CH3S 3 жыл бұрын
Rt power should be used in illumination personally.
@rrrr2150
@rrrr2150 3 жыл бұрын
different strokes for different folks i guess. i personally go with the best graphics possible. i only aim for higher fps in competitive online games
@Coreymj91
@Coreymj91 3 жыл бұрын
Wild you cant see it
@float32
@float32 3 жыл бұрын
I would rather have bigger and more complicated levels, physics, textures, and geometry.
@kubabooba548
@kubabooba548 3 жыл бұрын
You make a good point. I hope developers have implemented a system into their games to track how many people use ray tracing mode and how long they are playing while using that mode. RT is a nice feature to have, but at the expense of FPS, so it'll be interesting to see how many gamers chose FPS over RT. If RT isn't that popular, then developers can spend their time on something more important with their games.
@yoshionthego
@yoshionthego 2 жыл бұрын
I’m curious to know how the launch Xbox One version disc will perform on a Series X vs the ultimate next gen upgrades? I’m guessing its on par with the One X? Is there any performance or graphics increase automatically or is it stuck and you have to buy the ultimate next gen version to get those features?
@Kage5868
@Kage5868 3 жыл бұрын
Keep this stuff going guys it so much fun
@pepdog6475
@pepdog6475 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone seen the xbox fans that use to post those spec tech videos about how way advance the console would be and how better performance it would have? Thank god for DF setting them straight
@retrohil6225
@retrohil6225 3 жыл бұрын
Yall really get hyped over small frame-rate dips? Lmao
@spenny2cents
@spenny2cents 3 жыл бұрын
@@retrohil6225 more like we get hyped over shitting on Xbots because it’s so easy and satisfying
@Potato_n_Tomato
@Potato_n_Tomato 3 жыл бұрын
Ray tracing is nice in a subtle way and when you look for it, but 60 fps is always a night and day difference in comparison to 30fps.
@yadspi
@yadspi 3 жыл бұрын
It's not subtle though.
@NGuy-kz2eh
@NGuy-kz2eh 3 жыл бұрын
@@yadspi it's subtle compared to 30 vs 60fps. Double the temporal resolution and increased responsiveness > shiny floors, especially in a game that involves aiming.
@somethingdifferent9024
@somethingdifferent9024 3 жыл бұрын
@@NGuy-kz2eh This isn't Quake, 30fps is totally adequate for playing Control. RT brings more than reflections and really makes a scene far more natural looking.
@DanKaschel
@DanKaschel 3 жыл бұрын
It'll be different next generation when more mature rt hardware is available. These consoles can't do much rt as it is.
@blessedred
@blessedred 3 жыл бұрын
@@somethingdifferent9024 Naw, its not. I played it at 80+fps on PC. The improvement responsiveness looks and feels great.
@jonimated
@jonimated 3 жыл бұрын
Constantly impressed by what these new gen consoles are capable of, and very glad I was able to get a PS5 at launch.
@karnliberated8891
@karnliberated8891 3 жыл бұрын
I agree and same!
@brownchair2698
@brownchair2698 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing that rt performance hurts though.
@DanKaschel
@DanKaschel 3 жыл бұрын
@@brownchair2698 yeah. It's too bad this generation launched with 1st gen rt cores. Another year and it might have actually made sense to use rt on consoles. I'm really hoping AMD's answer to DLSS can be made available to consoles. that would be a game changer, especially for the series s.
@jonimated
@jonimated 3 жыл бұрын
@@brownchair2698 it does but I’ve honestly come to terms with it. Many people don’t realize how crazy intensive it is to try and output something at 4K 60, with or without ray tracing. These consoles would have to be significantly more expensive to be able to handle that. I do hear you though. I have a 4K 120hz TV and I’m constantly switching between performance and quality mode with games that offer it. Seeing those crisp visuals and ray traced reflections is so nice, but the 60fps really shines in a game like Control. It’s tough to choose.
@blair5475
@blair5475 3 жыл бұрын
@@DanKaschel There is no AMD's answer to DLSS for consoles. Microsoft themselves are working on their own version of Machine Learning algorithm, while PlayStation don't want it and turned it down.
@Turniplord
@Turniplord 3 жыл бұрын
You say you won’t feel the PS5 drops with a VRR display. I played through Control and grabbed all the trophies pre-launch on the PS5 in 60fps and I didn’t feel any drops. The only reason you knew there were any is because you analysed the footage. You literally can’t feel the 1 second dips of 1-3fps (which happen very rarely)
@riceeater79
@riceeater79 3 жыл бұрын
Damage control for PS5 superior version while glossing over Xbox Series X dropping to 45fps, 10 frames below the lowest point of PS5 performance in this game.
@ttwinsturbo
@ttwinsturbo 3 жыл бұрын
@@riceeater79 this is the worst next gen patch, what i see on ps5 and xsx. What you get? Low,low, low, lower than low and medium setting on 1440p like one x (last gen console) even one x have some setting higher than ps5 and xsx😂😂 only one visible upgrade is 60 fps or RT but in 30 fps wtf??? Ps5 and xsx have gpu like rtx2070super but on this gpu in pc game run max setting in 1440p with 60 fps with the same drops like ps5 low,low,lower than low performance and quality mod !!!!!
@themercifulguard3971
@themercifulguard3971 3 жыл бұрын
@@ttwinsturbo I think the devs are to blame for this one.
@user-fm8xs3hr3w
@user-fm8xs3hr3w 3 жыл бұрын
@@riceeater79 Xbox always renders at higher resolution. And this is still a cross gen game comparison. Not too bright, are you
@riceeater79
@riceeater79 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-fm8xs3hr3w lol maybe you should join everyone in the present. This isn't prelaunch spec sheet talk anymore buddy. None of what you're saying had materialized unless by *always* you're ONLY referring to Hitman 3 lol
@diajonas2415
@diajonas2415 3 жыл бұрын
This is the only game where I constantly switch between graphics and performance mode depending on the in-game situation.
@rex41e
@rex41e 3 жыл бұрын
Same. When roaming around I use Graphics, once I spot enemies though, I switch to performance.
@slitherman7883
@slitherman7883 3 жыл бұрын
@@rex41e would be weird for them to button toggle it
@jakubmrozik7964
@jakubmrozik7964 3 жыл бұрын
@@slitherman7883 Lmfao
@alphacompton
@alphacompton 3 жыл бұрын
I found myself doing that last night when I was playing. I'm terrible at aiming at 30fps so for bigger fights or a boss fight I switch to performance mode but otherwise graphic mode is beautiful. I played it originally on PC with RTX but I haven't played any of the expansions so I'm going to play everything on PS5 and Platinum the game.
@BJizzle321
@BJizzle321 3 жыл бұрын
Which is exactly why I think Devs should set a universal standard where the cutscenes run at 30, 4K, and Ray Traced to oblivion. Meanwhile the gameplay should naturally cutback, and run at 60. This gives all games a great visual-performance balance blend without need of player intervention. Basically in a way to go back to the PS1 FMV cutscene standard
@maheshmurali2697
@maheshmurali2697 3 жыл бұрын
What a day for ps5. Control ultimate edition, God of war performance mode and destruction all stars.
@omarhuber70
@omarhuber70 3 жыл бұрын
What a lovely day!! (MAD MAX)
@marcusmoore4819
@marcusmoore4819 3 жыл бұрын
Yep PS5 is kicking Series X ass so hard lol
@CMOA1621996
@CMOA1621996 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcusmoore4819 how? Both consoles are underperforming multiplat games and have like 2-3 exklusives yet. It will take atleast 1 more year for these consoles to show what they really can.
@MisticDW
@MisticDW 3 жыл бұрын
Yaaaaay old games! This has been the weakest new console launches in history
@marcusmoore4819
@marcusmoore4819 3 жыл бұрын
@@CMOA1621996 Damn you Xbots can’t spell lol
@jeffnussbaum716
@jeffnussbaum716 3 жыл бұрын
"As if by fast travel" is the "As if by magic" for the 21st century.
@THER1PP3RM4N
@THER1PP3RM4N 3 жыл бұрын
When i started getting into Gaming KZfaq, i’d skim through these videos just to make sure a game wasnt unplayable. Now i watch every episode posted even if i’ve already been playing the game being discussed 😂
@psychomantis8007
@psychomantis8007 3 жыл бұрын
I was pretty similar. Now I just like watching these breakdowns for the fun of it and the info
@steerj07
@steerj07 3 жыл бұрын
Playing my first run in 30fps on my XSX, but have switched off film grain and motion blur. Absolutely love it. Second run will be a 60fps run just so I experience both.
@mikepayns9586
@mikepayns9586 3 жыл бұрын
I hate those 2 settings. First thing I check for when booting up a game for the first time, disable those mfs off
@o_KingOfKings_o
@o_KingOfKings_o 3 жыл бұрын
Yup same here with the ps5 all my games I turn those off
@clismangenuino6880
@clismangenuino6880 3 жыл бұрын
@MTF_Savage_Beasts i doubt you run at Native 4k without dlss enabled so stop with your master racer things, this is a consoles comparison
@Totone56
@Totone56 3 жыл бұрын
@MTF_Savage_Beasts Consoles don't have DLSS, this is an Nvidia tech ...
@pixelslaughter3492
@pixelslaughter3492 3 жыл бұрын
Turning those off makes it look very video gamey and exposes more flaws. I'm always baffled at how many people turn these features off which improve the look of the game.
@dtwistrewind7361
@dtwistrewind7361 3 жыл бұрын
The trigger tension on the ps5 is a nice touch
@spenny2cents
@spenny2cents 3 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there
@runninginthe90s75
@runninginthe90s75 3 жыл бұрын
It so nice that it makes adaptive triggers brokes easily, dualsense sucks
@andrewz4515
@andrewz4515 3 жыл бұрын
@@runninginthe90s75 Weird mine are still working perfectly.
@sabriparlakyldz3994
@sabriparlakyldz3994 3 жыл бұрын
@@runninginthe90s75 mine works ferfect
@DrOORU
@DrOORU 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. Control is superb and to anyone playing it: keep going after the titles and I mean every set!
@entertainmentxpress98
@entertainmentxpress98 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a comparison of gameplay in regards to the dual sense controller vs series x controller? I am a Series X owner and might wait till i get a PS5 to play certain games simply because of haptics/ adaptive triggers
@iparz44z
@iparz44z 3 жыл бұрын
I was looking forward to this
@sean7332
@sean7332 3 жыл бұрын
I was looking forward to you looking forward to this
@juicedchef2849
@juicedchef2849 3 жыл бұрын
@@sean7332 I was looking forward to you looking forward to this comment
@iconofsin4578
@iconofsin4578 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bart
@simulify8726
@simulify8726 3 жыл бұрын
@@juicedchef2849 I was looking forward to you for this reply which is looking forward to another reply of the comment which is looking forward to this video
@nathanlunsford7110
@nathanlunsford7110 3 жыл бұрын
My powers have doubled since the last time we met Count
@aideyp7333
@aideyp7333 3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to playing Control. It looks very good on current generation consoles. It's just nice to see 60fps games on consoles again!
@battfinkz
@battfinkz 3 жыл бұрын
Don't be disappointed, they are far too negative on the xbox, I've played it for hours at 60fps and it plays superb
@kobeandgary
@kobeandgary 3 жыл бұрын
We had 60fps games last gen lol...
@battfinkz
@battfinkz 3 жыл бұрын
@@kobeandgary so did we. Also, doesn't upgrading your pc to run a game make it a new gen?
@kobeandgary
@kobeandgary 3 жыл бұрын
@@battfinkz the fuck?
@kobeandgary
@kobeandgary 3 жыл бұрын
@@battfinkz and who the fuck is we? 😂
@rixzin5046
@rixzin5046 3 жыл бұрын
When are you going back to the crysis remaster on next gen? Im curious of the performance and I wonder how the new consoles will handle the software based raytracing option that was on the xbox one x
@yametekudasai9327
@yametekudasai9327 3 жыл бұрын
Where do I find alex battaglia's full tech breakdown on control as mentioned at the beginning of the video...
@chinodigitalbath
@chinodigitalbath 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for this great analysis and for getting in touch with almost every developer nowadays, due to technical / performance issues. You guys really have a great impact with your work and support the whole gaming industry in a very positive and important way. Thanks, und auf Wiedersehen aus Deutschland. 😁✌️
@steveybiggunzgaming8118
@steveybiggunzgaming8118 3 жыл бұрын
I was extremely excited to hear this was free with plus. Love the ps5 dual sense features.
@sean7332
@sean7332 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda impressive its free on ps plus.. games with gold could learn a thing or two
@mrping4091
@mrping4091 3 жыл бұрын
@@sean7332 its on gamepass
@Thanosdidtherighthing
@Thanosdidtherighthing 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrping4091 That’s the last gen version LOL
@carolinagamer2874
@carolinagamer2874 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrping4091 The base game is on gamepass not this version. Xbox gamers will need to buy it.
@Dev-nr4dw
@Dev-nr4dw 3 жыл бұрын
@@sean7332 Ps plus could learn to have 1000s of quality games like on Gamepass.
@user-zh7th2ge1c
@user-zh7th2ge1c 3 жыл бұрын
I find it weird that the delay in the reflections arent mentioned. The way they have to catch up to what youre doing. I would have liked to know what causes that.
@random_n
@random_n 3 жыл бұрын
The reflections are rendered at very low resolution to help keep the framerate good. Multiple low resolution frames are composed together over time to create the reflective surface at a final, reasonable resolution instead of either a grainy mess or a blurry smear. We still sometimes get the grainy mess like the walkway to the hotline, so even this approach isn't bulletproof. This occurs in both 30fps/RT and 60fps/SSR modes, but it's less apparent in the 60fps mode both because the frames aren't as "old", and because screen-space reflections aren't as detailed as RT reflections. It's an unfortunate and distracting visual artifact as a result of Remedy pushing the boundaries of accurate real-time lighting past what modern hardware (RTX3090 notwithstanding) is really ready for.
@ChileanSpartanUSA
@ChileanSpartanUSA 3 жыл бұрын
I just played a little bit of control on my ps5 and the trigger when you shoot your gun is unbelievable. It feels amazing with that little resistance at the end of the shot.
@TheRealist1.
@TheRealist1. 3 жыл бұрын
More annoying than amazing. It sounds good, but I could do without it. Haptics are better than centrifugal vibration though.
@xaviermalcolm8481
@xaviermalcolm8481 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealist1. You can turn it off, so having the option to use it or not can only be viewed as a positive here.
@fightnight14
@fightnight14 3 жыл бұрын
Yes good for single player experience but unnecessary for multiplayer
@TheRealist1.
@TheRealist1. 3 жыл бұрын
@@xaviermalcolm8481 I said how I felt... Locking triggers are unnecessary, but I like the haptics. Tried Destruction all-stars and it's okay on that game, but it's not a big deal if I didn't have it. I thought my kid would be blown away with it.
@lfcobrikom5612
@lfcobrikom5612 3 жыл бұрын
I turned off haptics and adaptive triggers a few minutes after trying Astro Bots. Bloody annoying battery killing feature
@duncanself5111
@duncanself5111 3 жыл бұрын
The PlayStation 5 file size being 42% smaller than the Series X is a pretty big advantage going forward for Sony. Now they really need to sort out the expandable storage options ASAP
@winning2273
@winning2273 3 жыл бұрын
Not tryna be rude or anything but ps needs that bc of the low storage amount hopefully they can do this later with other games
@pixelbitg9386
@pixelbitg9386 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. But it seems like this dev didn't use bcpack on Xbox for some reason. Should not be that big. Interesting that the load times are somehow better on xbox
@duncanself5111
@duncanself5111 3 жыл бұрын
@@pixelbitg9386 but the performance, frame pacing and stutter is worse on xbox too...
@milk6765
@milk6765 3 жыл бұрын
@@duncanself5111 no only the stuttering everything else is the same
@duncanself5111
@duncanself5111 3 жыл бұрын
@@milk6765 they said there's bigger drops on the Series X, like when text pops up on screen, I think I saw it drop down to the mid 40s at one point and frame pacing issues too, plus it takes 42% more space on your ssd if you have the xbox version... And there's Dual Sense implementation apparently
@amnril
@amnril 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, informative as always, now I’ll wait for NXG to dive a bit deeper.
@fwabble
@fwabble 3 жыл бұрын
WHO?
@ricepony33
@ricepony33 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone notice the Series machines seem to have a consistent stutter issue across multiple titles?
@kennyk9652
@kennyk9652 3 жыл бұрын
They coming with the tools excuse or it's the devs fault
@Nerift
@Nerift 3 жыл бұрын
There's a bottleneck somewhere because this seems to happen over a few games
@GODEYE270115
@GODEYE270115 3 жыл бұрын
@@kennyk9652 was this issue present in the latest Hitman comparison?
@Finsta1966
@Finsta1966 3 жыл бұрын
@@GODEYE270115 no hitman on the x is the best version between the two
@Finsta1966
@Finsta1966 3 жыл бұрын
@@kennyk9652 not an excuse the truth
@parwitch
@parwitch 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad, none of them have option for 1080p + 60fps + Raytracing.
@purefoldnz3070
@purefoldnz3070 2 жыл бұрын
currently playing this at over 100fps with full ray tracing. Forget PS5 just get a PC instead.
@Annoh89
@Annoh89 2 жыл бұрын
​@@purefoldnz3070 Sure, you can always just build a pc that outperforms a ps5, but the graphic's card alone would be twice the price of an entire ps5, if not more.
@purefoldnz3070
@purefoldnz3070 2 жыл бұрын
@@Annoh89 with the amount of money resellers are trying to charge for a PS5 its close to a PC anyway. Why not invest in something better that can last longer and is upgradable?
@megablast
@megablast 3 жыл бұрын
Alex we need "The Division 2" next gen patch tech anaylsis and comparison with PC
@TheGrillsVante
@TheGrillsVante 3 жыл бұрын
Have Ubi released the patch?
@Komodo_Dragon
@Komodo_Dragon 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheGrillsVante yes, smooth 60fps now.
@megablast
@megablast 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheGrillsVante Yes. Yesteday released.
@UwU-ik5ur
@UwU-ik5ur 3 жыл бұрын
finally, i can focus playing it again now
@dockgamer973
@dockgamer973 3 жыл бұрын
Well if this game control is anything to go by nothing special, the pc settings for control are all low to medium to cant even go that low on pc, thats not me saying that its in digital foundry last video about this game and the developers told them that. Next gen my ass.
@musty8748
@musty8748 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the haptic feedback
@sean7332
@sean7332 3 жыл бұрын
Have you tried it in multiplayer games as I turn off vibration in online games
@andrespp174
@andrespp174 3 жыл бұрын
The haptics feel very nicee
@Astralmess
@Astralmess 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, instantly noticed them as well. A really pleasant surprise that sadly wasn't mentioned in the video.
@fluffymyato3334
@fluffymyato3334 3 жыл бұрын
how about the adaptive triggers? is it there?
@jlmurph2
@jlmurph2 3 жыл бұрын
The triggers felt kind of annoying to me. Like it was way too much resistance. When I'm supposed to be able to rapid fire the pistol.
@user-rm8by9fm
@user-rm8by9fm 3 жыл бұрын
What is that flicker on doors etc from light sources? Its literally everywhere with ray tracing and dlss. Is it just the denoiser?
@NLANDXP
@NLANDXP 3 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain to me what is wrong with the PS5 or next gen, Look at the blur in the above, you can clearly see "edges" in alot of games. PS4 and otherwise, what is up with it looks really bad. I play on ps5 and 4k tv. They are fawning over next gen, and I see a downscale, other then 60 fps, is it motion blur??
@tomlima4950
@tomlima4950 3 жыл бұрын
Currently, the Ultimate Edition is almost unplayable on Xbox Series X. After you complete Mission 3 or so, the game crashes CONSTANTLY, like once every 15 minutes on Performance Mode (I haven't tested it on Graphics Mode). It's REALLY annoying. The crashes happen generally when you open the map or try to change a mod or equipped gun. People on Reddit have also been complaining about this issue. Neither DF or Remedy have spoken about this issue. People playing it on Xbox should avoid playing the Series X|S version until it is fully patched. Cyberpunk had its issues when it launched, but NOTHING like crashing the game every 15 minutes.
@oleksandr.liakhevych
@oleksandr.liakhevych 3 жыл бұрын
Probably depends from case to case . I've completed the game on series x, and it crashed twice. Still not great, but not that critical.
@tomlima4950
@tomlima4950 3 жыл бұрын
@@oleksandr.liakhevych I wonder what’s going on, then. There are some topics on Reddit where people have the same complaints as I do. I was able to finish it and get all achievements an hour ago, but I avoided opening the game menu, because that’s what triggered my crashes. Maybe I had too much loot to handle? I don’t know.
@Trai1b1aze
@Trai1b1aze 3 жыл бұрын
I can confirm the crashes as an issue. Seem to be every 30-45mins for me after the first few missions, no particular trigger for them. Luckily I also have a PS5 so was able to switch to that version. 5hrs in and no crashes (also has haptic feedback on controller and auto-HDR enabled looks decent on quality mode)
@elusive_mg
@elusive_mg 3 жыл бұрын
@@oleksandr.liakhevych same here , i had like 3 crashes maybe but no problems, still going forward, i dont listen to that kind of people, maybe it is not working for ya but it works on my series x, when people will learn that not on every system bugs are appearing constantly, acting like they were born yesterday ffs
@tomlima4950
@tomlima4950 3 жыл бұрын
@@elusive_mg Hey, elusive, how are you doing? I hope you’re doing fine. I just wanted to warn people that the game that’s being charged AGAIN for those who bought in when it launched is not performing well. I think we should not give out our money to softhouses who clearly don’t respect their costumers and try to sell you something that is broken. Three crashes are still crashes. If you paid for the game, then an occasional crash is alright, but not every 15 minutes. My point is that people who have not bought it yet should be warned that their system could crash anytime till this game is patched. I’m really trying to help. If you don’t think my help is good for your case, just buy it anyways and keep having fun.
@ghulampirzada9983
@ghulampirzada9983 3 жыл бұрын
that sudden stutter is exactly what happens on my pc with no visible spike in either GPU or CPU usage weird
@slimmyraw
@slimmyraw 2 жыл бұрын
Idk if you mentioned it, but on Series S there is a lot of textures and mainly the signs that take a min to load in, sometimes not at all until you get right up to it and aim on it. This could use some touch up as well.
@FortWorthRaised
@FortWorthRaised 2 жыл бұрын
My first time playing Control was last night on the Series X in Graphics mode. And it looks so lifelike
@purefoldnz3070
@purefoldnz3070 2 жыл бұрын
currently playing this at over 100fps with full ray tracing on PC
@Foko851
@Foko851 Жыл бұрын
​@@purefoldnz3070 yeah great for you.! So sad that you must everbody thell i have a gaming pc and it hast more power as a 500€ maschine!, you are so a hero, please stay as you are.!
@tobydammit
@tobydammit 3 жыл бұрын
The update they just did for The Division 2 is also worth checking out
@mattallred
@mattallred 3 жыл бұрын
Seems they listened
@sheppo
@sheppo 3 жыл бұрын
Is this another case of there being an unintended inefficiency in the Xbox GDK? Painful to see, as a series X owner. I am hoping this can be fixed as it appears fairly consistently across games so far.
@zakixbox
@zakixbox 3 жыл бұрын
It's clear now that MS guys did something wrong with the hardware! 90% of games run better on ps5. I think the 2,23 GHz are paying. Running 36 CU at 2,23 is more efficient than 52 at 1.825. Add to this the superior ssd and decompression solution on ps5.
@mazzalean077
@mazzalean077 3 жыл бұрын
@@zakixbox The Ssd isn't 2x faster though.. most the time it's not even 10%.
@alexperez1519
@alexperez1519 3 жыл бұрын
@@mazzalean077 wrong your only seen it as a loading tool, but the ps5s SSD is also used as fast VIRTUAL RAM and its unified giving this performance bust over the more powerful XSX! Mark cerny talked about it, and people laughed at him, well I think he got the last laugh!
@n0haa
@n0haa 3 жыл бұрын
​@@zakixbox Maybe it's the hardware. Time will tell. Especially when it comes to frames per second (Performance Mode) against visuals (Graphic Mode) the higher clock speed makes a difference and Ps5 is able to perform better. But on the other hand the graphic mode theoretically should perform better on the Series X (~40% more CU's and RT power ... in theory). Maybe it's still a lack of proper development tools or maybe the optimizing is not done well. Maybe the game was updated to the new generation consoles by having the PS5 in focus and then it was ported to the Xbox consoles (because on a first look a lot of the hardware is equal) but without taking care of the specific hardware properties of the Series X. It's only a guess but might be true because it's cheaper for the developer to update a game of the old generation mainly on on of the consoles and then porting it to the other console as their hardware is very similar this generation. A lot of "maybe"s and a lot of guessing. I'm neither a fanboy of the Playstation nor of the Series X but I try to be open minded and see the (technical) facts. People also point out the Kraken Compression on the Playstation and this one is definitely a big thing but on the other hand Microsoft has something similar available on the Series consoles (not exactly the same as their algorithm works different and focuses on textures). Well what i want to say .. the file size shouldn't vary that much as it currently does. This again leads to the guess that the game was not yet optimized on the Series X as good as it maybe was for the PS5. Maybe because the Developer-Kits still are a mess. I don't know. We will see. But definitley both consoles doing a great job and this generation (for me) is much more interesting and has a higher impact than last generation consoles.
@TRX25EX
@TRX25EX 3 жыл бұрын
@@zakixbox not really, 90% at launch but now most of games run better SeriesX some guys did follow up and pointed that, just because you didnt check follow ups dont make up your own conclusion
@mash2481
@mash2481 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t know if you guys will see this, but just had the game crash my Series X back to the dashboard. Was playing in performance mode and switching back to the higher resolution mode when I would come across something I thought might look cool with the added effects. There was nothing taxing going on. Just some volumetric fog falling out of a hole in the wall that had weird crap growing around it. Just thought you might like to know. Thanks for all the knowledge you guys bestow on us!
@jasonhendricks8587
@jasonhendricks8587 3 жыл бұрын
I commend the channel for contacting the devs when they find these issues. It sounds as if the stuttering on series consoles can be fixed with a patch.
@rlfernandes9538
@rlfernandes9538 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff from Digital Foundry, as always! Control seems to be their main go-to RT benchmark for the foreseeable future!
@KontryBoy706
@KontryBoy706 3 жыл бұрын
60fps over 30fps ray tracing any day.
@o_KingOfKings_o
@o_KingOfKings_o 3 жыл бұрын
Nahh for camping games i prefer beauty
@kaleidoskope4314
@kaleidoskope4314 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely. You won't have time to examine the realistic reflections on the coffee mugs and desktops because you'll be too busy smashing all to pieces.
@KontryBoy706
@KontryBoy706 3 жыл бұрын
@@kaleidoskope4314 exactly. There’s lots of action on screen, particles, throwing things, turning the camera often. This is my first time playing control. I skipped it last gen because I didn’t want to play at 30fps. I tried graphics mode after about 2 hours of performance mode... I can’t do it lol. I don’t care how much nicer it looks lol.
@kaleidoskope4314
@kaleidoskope4314 3 жыл бұрын
@@KontryBoy706 Well enjoy it my friend it's a great game and at 60 fps should be sublime. I've already played it on PC but may play through it again now.
@a.s.cirillo6785
@a.s.cirillo6785 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@Rob-qn8ed
@Rob-qn8ed 3 жыл бұрын
Also read the PS5 version takes up 27gb storage vs 42gb for XSX.
@Ytnzy250
@Ytnzy250 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, lies G.
@XxSupernatural21xX
@XxSupernatural21xX 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ytnzy250 It's 100% percent true. I downloaded the game yesterday at 25gn
@Ytnzy250
@Ytnzy250 3 жыл бұрын
@@XxSupernatural21xX K. 👍
@spenny2cents
@spenny2cents 3 жыл бұрын
It’s called Kraken compression. Google it
@lomaxxbr
@lomaxxbr 3 жыл бұрын
Look at 11:13. When the framerate was heading down to the 40's, DF cut the video. Why are you trying to make XSX look better, DF? Why?
@mehrad1983
@mehrad1983 3 жыл бұрын
Wait for VGTech video, he will expose DF
@waynepancy3169
@waynepancy3169 3 жыл бұрын
Good eyes
@w3r0ification
@w3r0ification 3 жыл бұрын
This guys are Sony sissy boys too they always talk good about the ps5 or ps4 I don't think they try to hide nothing tbis guys duck ok Sony small Japanese pipi hard like ign you sissy boys can't accept any defeat from xbox accept is a more powerful console is no way the ps5 js gonna best it it us what it is
@waynepancy3169
@waynepancy3169 3 жыл бұрын
@@w3r0ification can't understand what you wrote, you high or something?
@w3r0ification
@w3r0ification 3 жыл бұрын
@@waynepancy3169 is ok just keep on moving and try to learn how to read
@gkork6
@gkork6 3 жыл бұрын
Hi DF, at 11:12 you see that XsX Frame rate drops below 50FPS, and you had a shot changed. Why you didn't show or explain it? I would like to know how low it can go.
@Wifixsmasher448
@Wifixsmasher448 3 жыл бұрын
The best thing about this game is that on ps5 the kraken decompression drastically decreases the file size .
@alexperez1519
@alexperez1519 3 жыл бұрын
And it's free on ps5!
@Wifixsmasher448
@Wifixsmasher448 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexperez1519 thats another bonus.
@ZiroDeagle
@ZiroDeagle 3 жыл бұрын
@@wizzenberry 27
@kaleidoskope4314
@kaleidoskope4314 3 жыл бұрын
I have Control Ultimate on Steam but it's at 40 gig. Compressed to 27 gig, that's quite impressive. I know the game files aren't directly comparable on a 1 to 1 scale but still that's pretty good.
@Wifixsmasher448
@Wifixsmasher448 3 жыл бұрын
@eel3161 the revolution tech was not just a faster ssd but incredibly fast IO throughput. You will probably see that tech in ratchet and clank. Its not far, you just have to be more patient
@rap4live39
@rap4live39 3 жыл бұрын
Where can I find the option for switching from Performance to graphics mode on series X :( Cant find it...
@hatchetman3662
@hatchetman3662 Жыл бұрын
I know I'm REALLY late asking this. But I'd like to know the full list of equivalent graphics settings from Series X Graphics Mode to try to match the settings on my PC. Just so that I can kinda do a comparison between the two. I don't really have an eye for it, myself. Does anyone know if they are listed anywhere? I haven't been able to find them on Reddit or anywhere else.
@sharinglungs3226
@sharinglungs3226 3 жыл бұрын
This will be a good video to watch two years from now when anyone could walk into any store and buy one of these consoles.
@evxlve8851
@evxlve8851 3 жыл бұрын
I really thought the Series X would be dominating in majority of these benchmarks but wow, Sony & Cerny really knew what they were talking about when they said teraflops is not everything
@americafirst.6554
@americafirst.6554 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah its very interesting i got the series x myself but im begining to think that third party developers will pick ps5 as the lead console to develope for and then port to xsx due to the fact that ps5 uses upgraded ps4 development tools therefore familiar territory and if thats the case its a shame that xbox wont be properly pushed outside of first party developers.
@xBINARYGODx
@xBINARYGODx 3 жыл бұрын
both of you are being stupid - did you think or feel the same when a One and ps4 game were the same, or whatever when that happened the gen before?
@americafirst.6554
@americafirst.6554 3 жыл бұрын
@Jason Yuen listen little kid...theres a big difference in beign stupid and having valid points or observations.Last gen ps4 was clearly the best performing machine from the get go until xbox one x. I prefer xbox over playstation i can tell you that much.Regarding Phil spencers "lies"...he didnt lie about the capabilities if the box its just devs are not pushing it and thats a fact as if right now...be an xbox fan not an xbot.
@americafirst.6554
@americafirst.6554 3 жыл бұрын
@Jason Yuen too bad you started with a good observation just to realize it was an ill intention comment...little fan boy.
@enzo0788
@enzo0788 3 жыл бұрын
@@americafirst.6554 haha whatever helps you sleep at night 🤣
@JesusJimenez-zu8ez
@JesusJimenez-zu8ez 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Tom/Alex combo👍🏽
@handicrap
@handicrap 3 жыл бұрын
So you have to own the ultimate edition? Can't find the options in the menus
@doxdox54
@doxdox54 3 жыл бұрын
is the RT same quality on ps5 and Xbox série X ? Thank you for yours reviews.
@DualPurpose
@DualPurpose 3 жыл бұрын
From.other reviews and looking at it it seems to me that PS5 has higher detail in raytracing, reflections, and graphics.
@RahatAzim998
@RahatAzim998 3 жыл бұрын
Not only that, did you also know that the PS5 cooks your meals and cleans your dishes? Truly the power of the next gen SSD is unrivalled. Better luck next time Shitbox.
@alexperez1519
@alexperez1519 3 жыл бұрын
@@RahatAzim998 well seen how is shaming xbox so hard I will take your word for it!😂😂😂👍 Hey the tools are coming bro!🤷‍♂️⚒🛠
@samclark3370
@samclark3370 3 жыл бұрын
@@DualPurpose Lol no it doesn't.
@TRX25EX
@TRX25EX 3 жыл бұрын
@@DualPurpose Dont lie it doesnt
@Astralmess
@Astralmess 3 жыл бұрын
I survived this game on PS4 Slim. Playing this on PS5 finally delivers the full experience. This game wasn't meant for last gen.
@Kira-qc4qi
@Kira-qc4qi 3 жыл бұрын
Still quite a ways to go for the full experience.
@glorious240fps6
@glorious240fps6 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kira-qc4qi such as?
@Kira-qc4qi
@Kira-qc4qi 3 жыл бұрын
@@glorious240fps6 it uses low raterization settings across the board and only a small selection of ray tracing features. Not starting a pc master race thing here but it's just a fact that Control is capable of looking and playing drastically better on PC than it does on the new consoles.
@glorious240fps6
@glorious240fps6 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kira-qc4qi a 1 year+ old last gen game that got splattered with RT on top of already unoptimized console port isn't really the new consoles' fault tbh. Remedy games are known for their broken games and lack of talent for optimization. This is just a lazy update for cashgrab. It's only worthy on ps5 bcz of being free on ps+. Otherwise i woudn't even waste a dime on this broken half baked port.
@Uptown8ighty8ight
@Uptown8ighty8ight 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kira-qc4qi the pc version with all the bells and whistles doesn’t compare to the new god of war patch!!!
@01Mikane
@01Mikane 3 жыл бұрын
Since you are comparing versions you should start with file sizes?
@anotheruser8105
@anotheruser8105 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing how far along console graphics have come..nice work..
@Rafael-oo8wh
@Rafael-oo8wh 3 жыл бұрын
Normally I choose FPS over Ray-tracing and pixels any day of the week, but I feel like the ambience and lighting of this game really benefits from Ray-tracing. But the gameplay also benefits a lot from the frame rate. I actually quite torn. I'm willing to settle for 30FPS now since it's practically locked. On the base PS4, playing in the low 20's was painful. So far, I'm slightly leaning toward Ray-tracing, but if the find a way to do what Insomniac did with Spiderman, I will have my cake and eat it, too.
@eduardocampos-vr1wj
@eduardocampos-vr1wj 7 ай бұрын
Play on PC with ray-tracing and high fps. Gg.
@jd5507
@jd5507 3 ай бұрын
@@eduardocampos-vr1wjtime to put my 4080 to work
@aeolussvichi7680
@aeolussvichi7680 3 жыл бұрын
Is it me or is it when theres some issue on the xsx, its always explained away by saying it must be some glitch or bug, but when the issie is on the ps5 its oh well it's the weaker console so its expected or something to that effect lol. If these issues are appearing predominantly on the xsx, and across multiple kinds of games, isnt it reasonable to think or even say that it's a hardware issue than all those games having the same bugs causing these issues? Just an observation I noticed on this channel.
@certified6342
@certified6342 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah your not the only one, multiple people have said the same. When it's playstation it's a hardware issue, when it's Xbox it's a tools or needs a patch, proper bias.
@bmdshred77
@bmdshred77 3 жыл бұрын
Because it’s true. Ps5 is weaker than Xbox.
@aeolussvichi7680
@aeolussvichi7680 3 жыл бұрын
@@bmdshred77 tflops, aren't the only thing that determines what console is best or better. So you truly believe that every time the xsx version of a 3rd party game has a shortcoming that it's a glitch or bug, but not when it's the same on ps5. Goddamn, talk about a double standard. You and they act like the kid on a playground whenever something dont go their way that must mean there was some unfairness happening because theres no way you could possibly be beaten, right? Listen, a game running better on one than the other doesnt have to do with just how powerful a console is. This gen so far should be proof of that. A game running better on the ps5 doesnt make the ps5 more powerful. It just makes it better for that game. And when a game runs worse on the xsx, doesnt make the xsx any less powerful, it just makes it the worse place to play that game of the two. Simple as that. You, and others, need to accept that the xsx will lose to the ps5 sometime and it doesnt mean there was a glitch or bug. It just means it got beat. As is evident so far.
@CityBoi954
@CityBoi954 8 ай бұрын
I'm so use to playing all games in fidelity mode, I'm sure I wouldn't even notice drops in performance mode.
@anikkabir934
@anikkabir934 3 жыл бұрын
The I/O stutters have been present in the PC version since release as well -- every time the game is paused (and sometimes even when the map is brought up) the game will stutter for almost half a second before being playable again.
@ErenTheWarcriminal
@ErenTheWarcriminal 3 жыл бұрын
I love Tom, the most underrated member of DF
@parazels83
@parazels83 3 жыл бұрын
John Linnemann is the best!
@jackbrabham
@jackbrabham 3 жыл бұрын
He's great! And Alex is the most overrated and partisan
@robertace57
@robertace57 3 жыл бұрын
@@parazels83 Linnemann WAS the best. Before his Sony’s licking madness started.
@shakshaka8355
@shakshaka8355 3 жыл бұрын
I like tom more that alex!!
@shakshaka8355
@shakshaka8355 3 жыл бұрын
What happened to the tools of the xbox that it will outperform ps5 massively!!
@gameskyjumper1721
@gameskyjumper1721 3 жыл бұрын
I am surprised that Series S manages to run this game with great fidelity at 60 fps. Great job!
@aemilianusmartinus5472
@aemilianusmartinus5472 3 жыл бұрын
At 900p. Lol.
@lastventure8377
@lastventure8377 3 жыл бұрын
At £250 not bad going series S 👍
@RedHaloManiac95
@RedHaloManiac95 3 жыл бұрын
@@lastventure8377 really. It’s Nintendo switch or series s. Switch is fun in bursts but fails to keep me immersed for hours. They’re more of “mini games” to me
@lucariotrainer16
@lucariotrainer16 3 жыл бұрын
@@aemilianusmartinus5472 Why does it matter if its at 900p when most computer monitors people use are 1080p with high refresh rates as 1440p and above monitors are extremely overpriced and 4k ones don't make a big difference compared to 1440p
@Strugglebaddy616
@Strugglebaddy616 3 жыл бұрын
@@aemilianusmartinus5472 Doesn't look unplayable at 900p.
@wallacerigby4393
@wallacerigby4393 3 жыл бұрын
Replaying this game feels so good. 1st Playthrough through was Xbox One X & 2nd Play through on PS5
@marinesgtblake
@marinesgtblake 3 жыл бұрын
I just love how fast it loads.
@eliteshergio7375
@eliteshergio7375 3 жыл бұрын
Another game that confirms to me, a 1440p 144Hz freesync monitor is more than enough to enjoy next gen
@tangentciel
@tangentciel 3 жыл бұрын
yes, exactly, and the price will be lower
@sean7332
@sean7332 3 жыл бұрын
Seems 1440p 60fps will be the best of both worlds for this gen
@eliteshergio7375
@eliteshergio7375 3 жыл бұрын
@@sean7332 and can even play at 120fps in multiplayer games
@LouRaX
@LouRaX 3 жыл бұрын
its the perfect choice for xbox series x but for ps5 the 4k 120hz monitor would be better since there is no support for 1440p
@eliteshergio7375
@eliteshergio7375 3 жыл бұрын
@@LouRaX hope PS5 get the support for 1440p too. Most 1440p monitors can receive 4k signal (mine can), the problem starts when you want to play at 120fps, need to select 1080p to do that. On Xbox is possible to play 1440p 120fps at the same time, thnks to the monitor support.
@viniciusmedeiros9822
@viniciusmedeiros9822 3 жыл бұрын
I tried playing it in quality mode on my ps5 and man that motion blur + 30fps were unbearable to me. It felt like everything was going at half speed. But on performance mode i'm getting an experience similiar to the one I had on pc but on 4k! I'm having a great time so far
@Bakerwar
@Bakerwar 3 жыл бұрын
Just turn off motion blur.
@diegotm4365
@diegotm4365 2 жыл бұрын
Is not 4k
@michealadebz
@michealadebz 2 жыл бұрын
@@diegotm4365 it’s internal 1440 upscale to 4k
@iRavenHD
@iRavenHD 2 жыл бұрын
Curious does series x run it at 1080P max settings? I’m rn playing on my laptop max settings. Lol.
@MadX8
@MadX8 2 жыл бұрын
Watch the video maybe ? You'll have the answer
@ChrisWTube
@ChrisWTube 3 жыл бұрын
Can you guys put the patch/build number of the game you are testing, in your videos and/or descriptions please?
@fwabble
@fwabble 3 жыл бұрын
Haven't watched the video yet nor read comments - I just want to say thanks for the OUTSTANDING work you guys do, it means a lot and is extremely appreciated by people like myself who value performance and frame rate stability. Now, I am going to be watching this with my fingers crossed but I can smell the frame drops already... lol ;0; Thank you also hugely to the devs for the performance mode, I hope it strongly favours frame rate stability (which is the idea) and doesn't attempt to over reach.
@fwabble
@fwabble 3 жыл бұрын
And replying to myself because I do that.. Thank goodness they have gone for 1440p. The visual difference between 1440p and 4K is minimal at best unless you side by side 6 inches from a 65inch screen.... Yet the performance hit of 4K, vs 1440p is UTTERLY STAGGERING. it's a damn shame 4K is such a marketing tool, 1440p leaves headroom for an ASTOUNDING amount of graphical eye candy.. What do you think DF? You know I'm right! ;D
@justspaztik
@justspaztik 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still getting some texture pop in on PS5. Mainly the signs.
@michaelnewton1754
@michaelnewton1754 3 жыл бұрын
Can't imagine playing this in anything other than 60fps mode. Wonder if they can have graphics/RT mode automatically turn on when accessing photo-mode... That would be useful
@Komagb
@Komagb 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that we can enjoy VRR on XSX, feels like perfect 60fps, and the stutters apparently are "in-between" areas, thus not a big deal.
@glenmcl
@glenmcl 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Runs perfect on my XSX and LG CX. I know everyone does not have this but you get what you pay for. Invest in a VRR capable display.
@steelers43paul28
@steelers43paul28 3 жыл бұрын
still bad to see this because it just shows how developing on the xsx is hard compared to ps5. like it’s not the consoles fault but more like the tools that developers get from microsoft
@spenny2cents
@spenny2cents 3 жыл бұрын
Lol or get a PS5 and not worry about useless features meant for people okay with lesser performance
@MattX28025
@MattX28025 2 жыл бұрын
Ray tracing is pretty, but 60fps makes this game so much better. I can't go back to 30fps.
@DuckAlertBeats
@DuckAlertBeats 3 ай бұрын
Yeah it's like playing a broken game in comparison
@alandiegovillalobos
@alandiegovillalobos 2 ай бұрын
Will try 60. Currently with RT. Just admiring the game
@thewanderingartists
@thewanderingartists 3 жыл бұрын
Got this on PS plus now waiting to grab a PS5 if it ever shows up at mrp.
@LouRaX
@LouRaX 3 жыл бұрын
i just gave up on that and payed 760€ but i got 600€ for my series X i got preordert :D
@thewanderingartists
@thewanderingartists 3 жыл бұрын
@@LouRaX in India it launched today instead of November 2020 and out of stock in less than 2 minutes xD
@drewtube6838
@drewtube6838 3 жыл бұрын
PS5 will be around until at least 2027, You have time.
@navasheen8964
@navasheen8964 3 жыл бұрын
hey, can we play the control we get from ps plus on ps4?
@ben10trillion
@ben10trillion 3 жыл бұрын
@@navasheen8964 nope
@TrevelyanOO6
@TrevelyanOO6 3 жыл бұрын
Will you be reviewing Switch Control Ultimate Edition - Cloud Version? I would love to know how tenable Nintendo's cloud streaming service is (in the EU) and if this is a feasible way to bring demanding games to the Switch.
@johnnygreene4658
@johnnygreene4658 3 жыл бұрын
What about the file size. Does the XBSX use higher quality textures?
@mandarinmanus
@mandarinmanus 3 жыл бұрын
In 17 minutes, I might have something meaningful to comment on this video. Will get back to you. Edit: still nothing, though I gotta say 60 fps with or without ray-tracing is an excellent way to breathe new life into last-gen games; I hope the trend continues.
@cobraneo
@cobraneo 3 жыл бұрын
Does Digital Foundry mention the install size??
@davefedor8709
@davefedor8709 3 жыл бұрын
How do you view the DF summary comments?
@thelegend-e7919
@thelegend-e7919 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone know why the PS5s SSD speed advantage doesn't seem to make much of a difference in loading times? Does it help with asset streaming?
@Thanosdidtherighthing
@Thanosdidtherighthing 3 жыл бұрын
Both but it’s a 26 gb download on PS5 vs 45 gb download on Series
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