Control Ultimate Edition on PlayStation 5: The Next Generation Tech Review
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Күн бұрынRemedy's Control is one of our favourite games of 2019 - a state of the art experience that embraces the future of rendering technology, using cutting-edge rasterisation techniques and a superb workout for hardware-accelerated real-time ray tracing. And now the game is coming to next-gen consoles. We've had an exclusive look at the final game and we're excited to share our thoughts with you!
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@MINUANOGAMING 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone: PS4 Pro. Alex, sipping a glass of wine from the Crysis shrine: PS4 Professional.
@AnalogFoundry 3 жыл бұрын
Before Alex, it was Mr. John Linneman who coined it.
@MaximumSpiders 3 жыл бұрын
Xbox number One
@pokemon1666 3 жыл бұрын
A man of culture i see.
@viniciusrodrigues1689 3 жыл бұрын
this glass of wine has its ray tracing on max settings too
@BACK2PORT 3 жыл бұрын
I felt irrelevant for that brief sec as an Xbox owner lol
@Eclipzify 3 жыл бұрын
Can we take a minute to acknowledge Remedy for supplying DF with the PS5's equivalent PC settings. This sort of transparency and community interaction should be industry standard. Well done Remedy 👏
@jermainen7846 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah man. DF are big boys in the game now. I doubt they would do that for anyone.
@roniz2345 3 жыл бұрын
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@njevansYT 3 жыл бұрын
yeah the only drawback to that is we see that it's basically running at Low/Medium settings on a PC.
@documentthedrama8279 3 жыл бұрын
Remedy are a great dev and their work shines
@Payload25 3 жыл бұрын
It is not at all optimized for the nextgen when we see these settings! Just look at what a PS5 is worth compared to PC components. PS5 => Ryzen 7 3700X + RTX 2080 SUPER and 16GDDR6 ! Settings equivalent to PC settings should be much higher ! These settings are only representative for this game and only this game.
@randydonovan7844 3 жыл бұрын
This game built such a great world, never read as many documents in a game lol
@Aaron-iz3hk 3 жыл бұрын
Dead Letters. So much funny stuff in there too. "Hello, My feet gossip at night and now I have to wear shoes to bed. Sincerely, Me"
@randydonovan7844 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aaron-iz3hk man your right I do remember actually laughing out loud at some
@JPMPranks 3 жыл бұрын
I believe Dishonored has even more!
@randydonovan7844 3 жыл бұрын
@@JPMPranks so true I loved that games world building too haha
@mojoofftherobo 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aaron-iz3hk i missed that one
@matthewmspace 3 жыл бұрын
Still can't believe how they managed to squeeze ray-tracing onto the consoles with this game. That's crazy. Also can't believe you get this game completely free with PS Plus. Now I can finally play it.
@spenny2cents 3 жыл бұрын
Refreshing to read this comment! Countless others believe it’s ray tracing + 60fps or bust but here’s a guy who knows how to be appreciative and realistic!!
@BlueisNotaWarmColour 3 жыл бұрын
@@spenny2cents while I agree with your sentiment that this is a huge accomplishment as is, Spider-Man makes me think some clever workarounds could give us both. RT and 60fps goes such a long way in this type of game.
@williamb19 2 жыл бұрын
I also can’t believe this game was free. Just getting to it and one of the coolest games I’ve played … ever?
@TheChriscrowder 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but at 30 fps :( My PC will do the same resolution with Ray Tracing at nearly 90 FPS. Unforutnately, FPS + Resolution > RTX
@apictureoffunction Жыл бұрын
@@BlueisNotaWarmColour Control is using a much heavier engine than Spider-Man, all of the physics and destructible objects in Control are computationally very expensive on the CPU side.
@luciddre4m 3 жыл бұрын
The destruction effects are so satisfying
@NeoTechni 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how the makers of Second Sight feel about this game.
@LordRaydenTube 3 жыл бұрын
Or Microsoft with Crackdown 3 and THE POWER OF THE CLOUD!!
@evilformerlys4704 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, unrealistic as hell though. Have you ever seen a chair break a desk like that and not just one but multiple desks. Sorry but that's just weird to witness, physics working on particles, but objects are made of different materials so they don't break the same way and require more pressure to cause breakage. Sure it looks impressive until you realize unless you're shooting a .50 HMG at the room, a hand gun isn't causing this much visual damage effects.
@sloth9210 3 жыл бұрын
@@evilformerlys4704 ok boomer, if it’s that unrealistic to you how bout you go make your own game and then I’ll agree
@imadecoy. 3 жыл бұрын
Especially how the desk falls to pieces but the typewriter pad is invincible /s That's what we call piss poor attention to detail.
@Lanosrep 3 жыл бұрын
This is a game that would really benefit from a Spiderman-style Performance RT mode, at 1080p/60fps, with partial ray tracing
@Fastwalker27 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Spiderman performance RT mode is dynamic 1440p , with all RT features , just at a lower resolution
@festive5476 3 жыл бұрын
yeah you're right
@Bradley10960 3 жыл бұрын
Saw one of the devs say on twitter that their team is too small to make this work sadly
@ZulqarnainAidil 3 жыл бұрын
They'll probably ask you to buy the game again to unlock that.
@festive5476 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZulqarnainAidil lol
@lord.frosty 3 жыл бұрын
The settings used in the PS5 version compared to the performance is a clear example why a technology like DLSS is really needed in every game both on consoles and PC.
@matrix9452 3 жыл бұрын
It can't be done on consoles, since they are powered by AMD technology. DLSS (Deep Learning Super Sampling) is an proprietary image upscaling technology developed by Nvidia and exclusive to Nvidia graphics cards for real-time use in select video games, DLSS uses the power of NVIDIA’s supercomputers to train and improve its AI model. The neural network is trained by Nvidia using "ideal" images of video games of ultra-high resolution on supercomputers and low resolution images of the same games. The result is stored on the video card driver (Game Ready Drivers). It is said that Nvidia uses DGX-1 servers to perform the training of the network.
@Shvabicu 3 жыл бұрын
Especially in this game as it's a crazy hardware hog. Hopefully AMD can pull something decent off to also work on consoles.
@ameerikbal8160 3 жыл бұрын
dlss is an incentive for video game makers to do a shit job on optimization.
@tazmanceltic 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully amd create their own equivalent and not at the cost to overall optimization.
@MrInuhanyou123 3 жыл бұрын
People arent laughing about "fake 4k" now are they. Native 4k really is a waste of resources
@BioFrost 3 жыл бұрын
I'm officially addicted to Digital Foundry's videos. I love the higher rate of content we've seen in the past few months.
@NicolasSilvaVasault 3 жыл бұрын
we need more physics rather than graphics, the 360/ps3 era was sublime when this was exploited
@layzie45 3 жыл бұрын
This. I hate how games last generation always felt so static.
@barret-xiii 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. Good lighting, reflections, skin shading, crisp shadows, volumetrics, and all those rendering effects are nice, but destruction and physics really help ground you into the world you're playing. Even if they forget destruction and just make more objects physically active, it feels more immersive. Something as simple as a tree briefly wobbling violently as a result of a nearby grenade explosion is enough to help pull you into the game world and make it feel like you're in an interactive setting and not just standing in a collection of static geometry and textures.
@jacquesjtheripper5922 3 жыл бұрын
@@barret-xiii couldn't agree more
@CyborgSodaCollects 3 жыл бұрын
This is the only game to really give you that "lobby scene" energy.
@y_auc60seb20 3 жыл бұрын
Well, Red Dead Redemption 2 has physics and graphics
@ThePaulg123 3 жыл бұрын
For.anyone that doesn't know control ultimate edition is the next free game on ps plus for February 👍🏻
@99bajakid 3 жыл бұрын
It's also free on gamepass.
@Ninjaski24 3 жыл бұрын
@@99bajakid isn't that just control for xbox one and not the enchanced edition like ps5s
@99bajakid 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ninjaski24 No clue tbh, I play on PC and just noticed it was on game pass last night.
@suddenimpulse030 3 жыл бұрын
@@99bajakid not been confirmed
@guybrushthreepwood8174 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ninjaski24 so far it's not the enhanced version on game pass.
@rorytaylor626 3 жыл бұрын
DF: "Detailed analysis of Control on next gen hardware" Chat: "Playstation 4 Professional lol"
@MrKDawg29 3 жыл бұрын
Lol 😂
@Zeegoku1007 3 жыл бұрын
That's how Gaming Mafia Works !!! 😂
@lirfrank 3 жыл бұрын
2:40 "It's so dense, every single image has so many things going on"
@monkfishy6348 3 жыл бұрын
Technically, every frame is an image, therefore every single image has many things going on in it.
@lirfrank 3 жыл бұрын
@@monkfishy6348 ...I'm fully aware what a frame is, it's a reference to a Star Wars meme.
@marctech1996 3 жыл бұрын
@@lirfrank You gotta love Rick McCallum
@jamesgravil9162 3 жыл бұрын
@@lirfrank So many things going on... except acting. Well, Ian McDiarmid and Ewan McGregor were pretty good.
@niks660097 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesgravil9162 acting?, its a game, what acting are you talking about!?
@Zwayeh 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love these breakdowns - excellent work as always! On a funnier note, I had a real double take when you said 'PS4 Professional', can't say I've ever noticed it being referred to as that before.
@marlbartony1621 3 жыл бұрын
They are overrated, just say a whole lot without saying anything
@XgamerdaveX 3 жыл бұрын
Not a regular viewer then?
@romanbellic810 3 жыл бұрын
PS4 Amateur vs PS4 Professional vs PS5 Amateur
@RainingFlow19 3 жыл бұрын
They always refered the Pro as Profesional here especially richard.
@MK-mf6oe 3 жыл бұрын
This game have one of the most boring enemys i have ever faced at shooter games and that did make this game boring when you could not care less about fighting dead boring enemys.
@Leap623 3 жыл бұрын
Really cool of them to provide the exact settings. I do kinda wish the checkerboarding raytracing mode would come to PC, though; in general, it would be nice to have more options besides just lowering the resolution or turning up DLSS for reclaiming performance from raytracing on PC hardware, while still getting to see its effects in action.
@Igni-bu5mz 3 жыл бұрын
I had a good time with it on the One X; only noticeable issue was the momentary hitching after pausing or going to menus. Looking forward to another go on PS5.
@chrisbrown113096 3 жыл бұрын
Alex has referred to the PS4 pro as “professional” multiple times throughout the DF videos. Hard to notice but I’ve definitely heard him say that before
@GameslordXY 3 жыл бұрын
Well Pro is short of professional, so why not?
@gonzaloxd2 3 жыл бұрын
Richard calls the base ps4 "ps4 amateur"
@zybch 3 жыл бұрын
@@GameslordXY Except the ps4 pro was anything but professional.
@Madyetmellow 3 жыл бұрын
Pro is the informal way of saying professional.
@8aba_Yaga 3 жыл бұрын
I like when Rich calls the regular PS4 the PS4 "Amateur"
@Soremwar 3 жыл бұрын
6:17: Play Station 4 PROFESSIONAL
@MultiEchelon 3 жыл бұрын
😁😆
@michaelhart5087 3 жыл бұрын
Its what the professional's play.
@Gaben_Enjoyer 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelhart5087 So if I get a ps5 I'm not a Pro anymore? Dang.
@michaelhart5087 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gaben_Enjoyer Or just wait till the ps5 pro comes out and buy that instead.
@rohaanmanzoor3268 3 жыл бұрын
small request, can digital foundry also cover sound in more detail. Would appreciate if you also talk about things like dualsense
@iDrKx 3 жыл бұрын
Intresting
@rika5417 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think necessary , there is no upgrade for sound or dual sense
@MrShagnar 3 жыл бұрын
@@rika5417 there actually is dual sense support, check remedy’s Twitter
@rika5417 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrShagnar OMG I didn't know, that would be interesting
@dangiambrone7350 3 жыл бұрын
They would probably have to hire another member for this as I get the impression that they are always stretched thin. Yours is a good point though, audio is a criminally overlooked area in gaming analysis' (ACG is probably top of the class in this department). Factor in that both the PS5 and Xbox Series have new dedicated audio hardware and the Dual Sense features.....
@AntneeUK 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant analysis as usual, Alex. Thoroughly enjoyed this. I've only played the original on Series X and I did notice some texture loading issues, such as the clocks in the motel. Interesting that you're not seeing it on the PS5 version. Will look forward to Tom's video on the latest versions on Series X 👍
@JustPhillGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I wish all console next gen games had that graphic sweet spot like spider man remastered on the PS5 where you can do ray tracing at 60fps with performance mode.
@sawomirbartosiak2487 3 жыл бұрын
Spider -Man remaster for PS5 is a powdering of the old generation games. Only Spiderman Miles Morales is the real next gene. And it is not so rosy there anymore. Only in the quality mode you have RT and 30 fps turned on
@_obex 3 жыл бұрын
@@sawomirbartosiak2487 Miles Morales has a 60 fps RT mode...
@GameslordXY 3 жыл бұрын
@@sawomirbartosiak2487 4K30 yes. There was a patch that brought 1080p60RT
@Bankoru 3 жыл бұрын
@@GameslordXY 1440p60 RT
@azzaprime7257 3 жыл бұрын
They need to remaster Quantum Break, that game has some of the best bullet time effects iv ever seen.
@JochoPorocho 3 жыл бұрын
Play it on pc. Just needs a resolution bump because graphics were honestly amazing and since it ran at 720p on X1 and 1440p on X1X. Must look amazing at native 4K60!
@Chriva 3 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed. The bridge scene gets me every time :) Literal *WOW*.. moment each and every time lol
@WH250398 3 жыл бұрын
The game itself was very meh in my honest opinion.
@tinobrown1780 3 жыл бұрын
If they do, they should tighten up the shooting mechanics a little. But yeah that game looks amazing effects wise.
@JochoPorocho 3 жыл бұрын
@@WH250398 Wasn’t the best game ever, but had its nice moments, Control is the polish of that game imo
@MrAzazel666 3 жыл бұрын
The SSD in Control is a HUGE game changer. Loading on last gen consoles was absolutely painful.
@revelator3665 3 жыл бұрын
you can put fast ssd in your ps4 pro internally... MX500/860/870EVO... lol
@ederreyes6529 3 жыл бұрын
@@revelator3665 obviously but you are going to waste another $120 dollars and it won’t be as optimized
@revelator3665 3 жыл бұрын
@@ederreyes6529 500gb SSD MX 500 50/60$
@weaverquest 3 жыл бұрын
Still too long for PS5. Seems like it is going to be a while before games take advantage of PS5 storage architecture and match Spider-Man MM loading which loads into a highly detailed open world from a random save file in 1.5 seconds.
@lordmaster2562 3 жыл бұрын
Xbox one x plays super
@jaredbeasley1084 3 жыл бұрын
This game was amazing. Just finished it up a few weeks ago. I look forward replaying it in a couple years with the update.
@lixiviumrahxephon6375 3 жыл бұрын
I'm stoked to play this tomorrow!
@Rain1dog 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah, absolutely loved this on the Pro. I got the plat and can’t wait for the 5!! Once again, fantastic work. I love watching all of you gals/guys videos. Thank you!
@iSteveGWT 3 жыл бұрын
Started playing on PS5 as it’s available on PS Plus this February and it’s such an excellent game. I’ve been playing in the Graphics mode for now until I finish the main story missions, then i’ll do all the side activities in Performance mode when I’ve already seen all the areas in the Ray Tracing mode. It looks brilliant in either setting, really enjoying this game.
@ThaAceman_art_nature 3 жыл бұрын
Excited for the other video, this was a nice and welcomed preview.
@user-yz1cr2rj5c 3 жыл бұрын
Seams that you guys developed your own format and polished it to brilliance. Thanks! Great video, as always.
@HorseheadNebula85 3 жыл бұрын
"Convex dish" Technically concave, but ARE YOU KIDDING ME that the engine knows what to do with a visual abstraction like that? Raytracing is incredible. EDIT: a word
@viperhd70 3 жыл бұрын
The engine doesn't 'know'. It's pure physics and the way light bounces that causes the 'anomaly', but yeah that's the strength of raytracing. Imagine 20 years from now when ray tracing also does diffraction and the oil effects in this video would actually be the result of raytracing as well.
@HorseheadNebula85 3 жыл бұрын
@@viperhd70 I didn't explain myself well. I know what raytracing is. My point was that the engine is able to so directly integrate those physics calculations that we don't even anticipate. But when they pop up in front of us it's like "Wow, that IS how it works in the real world!"
@03chrisv 3 жыл бұрын
@@HorseheadNebula85 You should check out the "camera obscura" effect on Minecraft RTX. It just manifested itself based purely on the physics of light, no pre programming. Its very cool.
@MegaPieru3000 3 жыл бұрын
30fps is also incredibly bad so the 60fps performance mode is the smart choice imo.
@diharaw94 3 жыл бұрын
As long as your surface normals are correct, ray tracing will be physically accurate, you don't have to specify whether a surface is concave or convex.
@Scallywig1 3 жыл бұрын
I've never been to a video this fast. 👀
@zekepliskin6398 3 жыл бұрын
And yet you found when you got there, there were somehow already over a thousand comments, right? 😂
@agmills86 3 жыл бұрын
Downloaded it today and playing on graphics mode at the minute, looks good to me for a console, only got to the first boss at the minute, will try 60 fps mode out, may prefer that over reflections in windows, they do look good though!
@gameskyjumper1721 3 жыл бұрын
Great job! The title matches the video. Even better gave us comparison between PS5 and PC.
@jjungo65 3 жыл бұрын
Digital Foundry breakdown in the morning!!!! You guys are spoiling me and it ain’t Valentines Day yet lol
@jermainen7846 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alex. I've started analysing Ray Tracing in real life based on your analysis. I've found some very interesting results. I'm the UK, so on this platform, Clouds are on high settings, vegetation appears to be on medium and the Sun is on very low settings, Reflections off glass is especially impressive. Thanks Alex. I couldn't do it without you!
@TheTrashman147 2 жыл бұрын
The texture quality is amazing as well, they're not even compressed and all cutscenes render in engine as well keeping a nice consistent look between levels
@Bookish1995 Жыл бұрын
Ultra quality comment
@koji_44 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing review & breakdown vid! I just wish for the last part that you had an AMD w/ Gen4 NVME SSD PC to test; as the latest drives can hit literally double the read speed at 7000MB and PC doesnt even have Direct Storage yet. I would love to see a comparison like this, before and after DS comes out
@FelipeRRM 3 жыл бұрын
Alex, how would you chose to play this version of the game? I know it's a totally personal preference, just curious if you would sacrifice the smoothness in favor of the added fidelity gained with RT. Also would be great to have this checkerboarded option for the RT on the PC, on all the RT effects, would make it easier to turn all the effects on.
@Miadaskate 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks fellas! You guys are the best!
@handle659 3 жыл бұрын
They did a very good job with handling reflections without ray-tracing, good enough that I would take the 60fps over the 30. But really we're all just waiting for a DLSS alternative for AMD, even if they don't have the same acceleration capabilities
@vollkerball1 3 жыл бұрын
even if the boost is small, it is still a boost.
@fafski1199 3 жыл бұрын
@@vollkerball1 I guess so, but it also a case of how much fidelity you'll end up losing, for that small boost. If it's like a 10-20% boost but it's a poor 'blurry' quality is like DLSS 1.0 or checkerboarding, then it really isn't worth it. However, a 10-20% boost with around the same good level of quality of DLSS 2.0, then it probably is worth it. Also, RT performance on the consoles and RDNA2 is really a 2 fold issue: 1) RT on AMD's RDNA2 simply isn't that great. Performance levels when compared to Nvidia's Ampere is around 35-40% less on average and that get's even worse with 'full' RT enabled. 2) There's no additional AI cores on the RDNA2 GPU's to be capable of pulling off something like DLSS, in order to mitigate the loss you are getting from using RT.
@vollkerball1 3 жыл бұрын
@@fafski1199 lets wait and see even if any solution appears and i agree dlss 1.0 was bad but that is normal in New features
@ioannispoulakas8730 3 жыл бұрын
@@fafski1199 NVIDIA chose to use tensor cores for the upscaling but that doesn't mean that's the only way you can do it. AMD's implementation can be as good without using those cores but some other way. Not an AMD fanboy, I actually have an RTX 2060, but I just wanted to emphasize that there are multiple ways to achieve a result..
@fafski1199 3 жыл бұрын
@@ioannispoulakas8730 All other ways will use up processing power, either from the CPU or GPU. Either way you are taking up processing power, that could simply be used to boost performance anyway. It's counter-active, taking away performance to try and boost up performance. It also takes up far more 'normal' cores to process, than it does using AI cores that are dedicated and built around doing the necessary AI algorithms. You simply won't get anything close to DLSS on AMD GPU's, until AMD also include some dedicated AI cores for the task, on the GPU. This probably will be the case with the RDNA3 GPU's (2022) and it's rumoured MCM design. Either way you won't see it for a while, especially on console (mid-gen refresh consoles, then maybe)
@rlfernandes9538 3 жыл бұрын
Always good to see Alex nerding out!
@e2rqey 3 жыл бұрын
Looks pretty good for the hardware they are working with. My only complaint would be that due to the AA being so low, there are a lot of artifacts and flickering due to it.
@lifesanitch404 3 жыл бұрын
This game is so smooth and pristine that i’d gladly play it all over again on PS5. Highly recommended for newcomers.
@noisackda2564 3 жыл бұрын
Really wish we could get 60fps with RT on the PS5. This is nice though. Had no idea everything was destructible. I love that stuff! Free on PS Plus too.
@godspeedmaximus 3 жыл бұрын
Great physics and destructible environments has always been my favorite thing in games
@karolwithak9622 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the Quantum Break music in the background of this video
@Tanook 3 жыл бұрын
You can get Control: Ultimate Edition on PS5 tommorow if you have PS+ subscription. Great game to get on PS5.
@DirEnGay 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah along with Destruction AllStars, overall a pretty solid month. I hope Destruction AllStars doesn't suck lol, they did barely any marketing for that game and pulled it from being a £70/$70 launch title to it being free on PS+ 2 months later lol. My only worry now is if they just cram it full of microtransactions to recoup the game sale loss.
@DragonoftheDarknessFlame 3 жыл бұрын
I was malding a bit when I found out it was free but it was still funny. Only 17.99 and if the game is as good as people say I'm ok with it
@guybrushthreepwood8174 3 жыл бұрын
Wait. There's a PS5? Where that at
@kraenk12 3 жыл бұрын
You can also get it if you only have a PS4.
@tlingitsoldier 3 жыл бұрын
If you don't yet have a PS5, but are a PS+ subscriber, you can still add the game to your collection via a browser. If you get a PS5 later and are still subscribed, you'll be able to play the game.
@Taijifufu 3 жыл бұрын
Remedy sent exact PC settings for comparison?? I absolutely love them for that.
@hollywooda111 3 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to play this I've nearly bought it so many times
@D3athW1ng 3 жыл бұрын
At the risk of dating my gaming life - the destruction in this game reminds of the first time I saw games like FEAR and cryterions BLACK back in the day.
@evlofenn 3 жыл бұрын
They deserved to die, they all deserved to die!
@MattiaMirabello 3 жыл бұрын
Damn BLACK was 🔥🔥🔥
@Rello0 3 жыл бұрын
Literally was playing Black yesterday on XB1.
@nicholaswoodside4238 3 жыл бұрын
Those games remind me of a simpler time.
@GrumpyPugComics 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget crysis
@kuplayfordvalls6781 3 жыл бұрын
Would have been dope to see a 1080p 60fps in RT on! :)
@carlomorischi3435 3 жыл бұрын
Now the problem is that I can't really choose between ray-tracing or 60fps
@JCORR76 3 жыл бұрын
1080p @60fps RTX On
@ivofixzone6410 3 жыл бұрын
If you a console player, yes you are right, but this is because they are not powerful enough despite the overhype in the media. If you need better performance the solution is only one...
@aeris2001 3 жыл бұрын
@@JCORR76 Is that setting possible on console
@Luci2310 3 жыл бұрын
Series x does 60hz Plus raytracing
@TerraWare 3 жыл бұрын
The game's all about the action, quick reflexes shredding enemies. Unless you plan on examining your reflection in the windows or looking at coffee mugs to see how they reflect the countertop take the performance. Or just start the game in ray traced mode, get it out of your system and than play it properly.
@gibgun 3 жыл бұрын
I hope to get a new monitor this year and the first thing I’m going to do is play through Control again. What an experience that was
@DariMan001 3 жыл бұрын
Where is the next video?? Been waiting hours! I'm super curious about how the consoles compare (especially how series s will avoid very low resolutions). Thinking of getting that console and starting to wonder if it will be a simple 1080p 30fps without ray tracing :( on this game
@dampflokfreund 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like a great port. Good that they gave you the exact PC settings!
@MrBenedick14 3 жыл бұрын
Even ps4 pro and xbox one x is using pc settings med low and high.. While ps5 is using pc exclusive settings.. In previous generation if you watch digital foundry ps4pro and xbox one x is using mix pc settings, low mid high and ultra in some area and some hidden optimization that are not visible to the eyes .. It is not surprising because almost all games are.made.for console and what we get on pc is the port version coming from console more on ps4 side...triple a developers don't make anymore games on pc, but i don't mind port version... Most of the true pc made game are isometric rpg games and strategy games
@mrbananayellow4999 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@mjolnir112 3 жыл бұрын
Keith Brown cyberpunk also another example of PC first then down scaled to consoles
@turrican4d599 3 жыл бұрын
Mediocre port at best with all those LOW settings.
@dandan3045 3 жыл бұрын
@@turrican4d599 someone’s bitter
@hrungnir00008psp 3 жыл бұрын
Small note: the dish is concave.
@stuffsummedup22 3 жыл бұрын
You could say it's convex from behind
@hrungnir00008psp 3 жыл бұрын
@@stuffsummedup22 ;-D
@daviddfinton 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting to play this on my PS5. Loading this sucker up tomorrow!!!
@GGMattt 3 жыл бұрын
I last played this through PS Now on my Slim (Not streamed thankfully 😅) but never got to finish it in time last year. Looking forward to replaying it on my PS5, I do wish they'd just give us options to try and uncap the quality modes, as a PC gamer anything above 30 looks nicer than capped 30.
@fwabble 3 жыл бұрын
I hope those frame rate drops I saw don't occur very much. I am very glad the developers offered a performance mode but it really should mean that it DOES NOT drop below 60 - the idea is drop the visuals BEFORE the frame rate drops
@andresx791 3 жыл бұрын
yeah im king of disappointed that the game is not fully utilizing the PS5 hardware, ray tracing aside, the performance mode should run at a higher settings and maintain 60fps every where, it seems to me its not well optimized, we should wait for future patches and see
@jonnyfive5000 3 жыл бұрын
It’s really impressive considering it still is a ps4 game with some tweaks and enhancements running on new hardware. I’d really like to see a ps5 game built from the ground up that really pushes it to the max.
@conciise136 3 жыл бұрын
I think Demons Souls is a pretty great hardware demo considering how true it is to the original.
@jonnyfive5000 3 жыл бұрын
Just played it for the first time today on my ps5 today. Uploading some gameplay. It’s up their on ghost of Tsushima level graphics wise. 60fps looks really clean and the modern esthetic gives it a really clean look. Lots of aa and the checkerboard pops out at times. But interesting game, still have no idea what’s going on after 30min
@jonnyfive5000 3 жыл бұрын
@@conciise136 waiting for a sale on that one as I’m not to fond of the gameplay from the PS3 version I own but I’d be willing to give it another chance on the ps5
@jonnyfive5000 3 жыл бұрын
@@GameslordXY hopefully not that long lol but you could be right 🤷🏻♂️
@GameslordXY 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonnyfive5000 Well actually, it's more like 5 years or so. But you will certainly see games that push it HARD in the meantime. Same as with any other generation.
@Mangzorz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative video! Just bought this for the PS5 and am stoked to give it a go. Looks like a great game.
@paradigm2841 3 жыл бұрын
6:30 "I would be remiss if I didn't talk about ray racing" Nice one, Alex!
@MrMarkTheBeastMemes99 3 жыл бұрын
An idea for a video series: How about you start "how it evolved" series, comparing the last entry in a game series to the latest one (let's say quantum break and control) technically of course or comparing games graphical features to another (RDR2 to Cyberpunk...) Like that the viewer will appreciate the game and the effort the developer put to revolutionize the next entry
@spapbp 3 жыл бұрын
You know of nick930?
@MrMarkTheBeastMemes99 3 жыл бұрын
@@spapbp Yes, I know him. What I wanted to say is to compare the games the "Digital Foundry way", Deep dive in technical matters, like how the developer achieved what they achieved(in engine technical matters, and developers interviews if possible), what new techniques they used that they didn't use before, is it good or bad... And the like. They can go many different ways compared to nick930 and still produce an amazing content!
@pedrofelck 3 жыл бұрын
We thought Control was a next-gen game when in fact it is a next next-gen game, perhaps PS6 will be able to run it on high settings at 60 FPS with ray-tracing at 4K.
@outdatedTV 3 жыл бұрын
I hear the argument that consoles are 2x cheaper to buy than a current gen PC. They are cheaper for a reason.
@thanos2420 3 жыл бұрын
@@outdatedTV They are not cheaper compared to the PC. Just like PC market prices that has gone way up because of the pandemic consoles are expensive too. No you can't buy a PS5 for $500 if you want one you will have to pay around $1300. But when finally everything goes back to normal and you could buy a $500 console then imagine what will happen then to the PC market when Nvidia and AMD and Intel latest hardwares come to the market and the prices of the previous hardwares will drop like a free fall. But consoles will stay at $500 for much longer time.
@Oceanandskylinevidss 3 жыл бұрын
@@thanos2420 I bought it for $500 not to long ago. I work at a gaming pc department. None of the pcs I build are under $1500 for what the ps5 is pushing. Ps5 is a better value for the power it has. Plus the custom ssd you can't get on the market. Console is looking pretty nice.
@imo098765 3 жыл бұрын
@@Oceanandskylinevidss if the PC market was stable right now. RTX 3070 is $500 MSRP and its 2080Ti level of rasterization and far superior RT than what a PS5 or Series X has. R7 3700X which is basically the CPU in these consoles was $250 Mobo with gen 4 PCIE features $180 32 GB of RAM $200 SSD that has a few hundred GB more usable storage $200 and you have $170 dollars for case and psu $1500 for a PC that is better than a PS5 in nearly every department besides Sony's proprietary tech SSD which as we see from loading times and gameplay makes no difference vs the Xbox consoles. Remeber this game is playing on pc medium mostly low and RT and lods turned further down than PC can. while the pc I showed is a 1440p60fps high settings RT game Remember DF puts the PS5 gpu using RT around the RTX2060 the weakest RT card around and Rasterization around a 2070 Super -2080. So you could drop $150 off the graphics card and still get a better experience. Remember this
@outdatedTV 3 жыл бұрын
@@thanos2420 let's hope things get back to normal. I'd love to see 3080s for 400$ when the next series arrives. This card is killer.
@MichaelButlerC 3 жыл бұрын
Looks so amazing. Hyped to play this for the first time via PS Plus on the PS5. Had to stop the video so I wouldn't get any spoilers!
@rowanunderwood 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing all that extra work even though you didn't need to!
@Zinfidel1 3 жыл бұрын
I played Control last year when it was available on PS Now and wow! One of my favorite games of last gen. The design of the environment is one of the best in gaming, period. The art direction is simply incredible. The action is so fast paced but the dimly lit offices filled with typewriters and paperwork adds such a creepy horror feeling. It's surreal. Love it!
@dandan3045 3 жыл бұрын
Did you play it on a PS4 pro? I tried playing it on base PS4 and the sluggish frame rates, long load times and crashes here and there made me stop. But I really enjoyed what I played. Really looking forward to playing this on the PS5.
@ifyouusedarkmodeimjohncena7189 3 жыл бұрын
Your PS Now actually works?
@Zinfidel1 3 жыл бұрын
@@dandan3045 yeah I played it on a Pro. For 1080p, the game was still impressive! Everything exploding and hiss clouds bursting... so cool. Definitely remember those hiccups and load times though. I cannot wait to see those PS5 ray traced reflections!
@Zinfidel1 3 жыл бұрын
@@ifyouusedarkmodeimjohncena7189 My wifi speed is about 65-ish Mbs down and I really don't have problems streaming. But I downloaded Control from Now.
@Rafael-oo8wh 3 жыл бұрын
Normally I choose 60fps for just about every game, but this game actually looks pretty good with its graphics mode.
@thosediamonddreams 3 жыл бұрын
Digital Foundry simply is a cut above the rest. I've already played this game and loved it but I appreciate Alex going out of the way to blur the mission objectives in the upper right so it doesn't spoil newcomers ☺
@Potato_n_Tomato 3 жыл бұрын
4:22 That was the most aggressive *BASE* Machines i've ever heard.
@spenny2cents 3 жыл бұрын
All about that BASE no treble
@adamkallin5160 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely the right call to sacrifice some visual settings for a stable frame rate. The game still looks great.
@Archivist42 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely wouldn't mind playing this game again - so underrated!
@HugoStiglitz88 3 жыл бұрын
YOU LIEEEE!!!!!!!!! (Arnold voice)
@starboy6226 3 жыл бұрын
Yh but I’m not buying it twice
@FrancescoPatro 3 жыл бұрын
Never got to play it, would you recommend it? (Ps4)
@Rohlix 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree. For me it's the Prey of 2019.
@Archivist42 3 жыл бұрын
@@starboy6226 Would’ve been nice if there was at least a cheaper upgrade path for existing owners. Full repurchase, is a bit rough - especially when some games got similar upgrades completely free
@TerraTheWise 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for the next gen upgrade for this game to finally release as I didn't want to bother playing it until then. Can finally grab this as I've been eyeing this game for quite some time. Now I gotta decide if I want it on PS5 or XSX.
@neobaggins3718 3 жыл бұрын
I really want the next part of the Star Citizen series! Great video though!
@bewsket 3 жыл бұрын
12:58 Cutting edge next-gen console, JUST came out, and it can only maintain stable framerate on Low settings?
@thanos2420 3 жыл бұрын
Not just low settings, lower than the lowest settings possible that you can on a PC, and even if you lower your settings on your PC all the way to the end according to Alex you are still getting better visuals compared to the PS5. And if you just search on Yotube Control on a GTX 1070 and you will see that a 2016 GPU is outperformin so called next generation of consoles. Linus tech tips said that a 1070 was the equivalent to a XSX and Gamers Nexus said the same thing. The hardware is really outdated on PC but it's really sad to see that console fanboys are even after everything that they seen they're still trying to somehow find an excuse for their plastic box.
@spenny2cents 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a last gen game being patched to run on next gen hardware you dolts!! How hard is to understand that we won’t be seeing the TRUE power of these consoles until we develop “exclusively” for them
@spenny2cents 3 жыл бұрын
@@thanos2420 You should stick to the Marvel Movies you clearly are a waste of space in the tech field
@marcocerritos9147 3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this,and I'll enjoy it like you have no idea.
@GamesDamesFlames 3 жыл бұрын
Never played but I need something new
@mandrews6282 3 жыл бұрын
@@GamesDamesFlames yah same here. With most next gen or big triple A titles being delayed right now I feel like any game that is remotely big coming out right now will get played by a lot of people. I mean the Medium on Series X is an indie game really and it was treated like a triple A title. Jedi Fallen Order is back at full price on the PS Store and many played that with it’s update recently. It’s def a good time for any dev company to release a next gen update for a last gen game or to come out with a new title. It will get a ton of press and play. Control is a 2 year old game and people are treating it like it’s a next gen release title. I’ve been looking forward to the game for months now and will def play it tomorrow. I had never even heard of it before the update was announced.
@Icza 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe we're getting this tomorrow for free on PS5, so excited. Definitely playing on quality mode. I'm off work for a bit too it's like the stars are aligning.
@omegaxis2 3 жыл бұрын
Had this game since last October and just been waiting for the next gen update
@8BitRetroMonkey 3 жыл бұрын
The PlayStation 4 “professional”
@festive5476 3 жыл бұрын
class
@DrKrFfXx000000000000 3 жыл бұрын
The irony when he said that.
@Usrthsbcufeh 3 жыл бұрын
I heard that and went straight to the comments
@KraaaHKen 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! Damn it! Was about to comment the same ^^
@huawafabe 3 жыл бұрын
@@KraaaHKen i mean, it sounded weird, but that's what 'pro' is supposed to stand for, right? :D
@riveraluciano 3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing just how many compromises they have to make to even reach 30FPS with raytracing, it really drives home how RT is in its very early stages of development and how current hardware is still simply not enough for it.
@likemy 3 жыл бұрын
amd hardware, perhaps. Nvidia GPUs handle raytracing just fine
@riveraluciano 3 жыл бұрын
@@likemy With DLSS****** Turn off DLSS on pretty much any RayTracing enabled game and you'll struggle to hit 60fps. The compromise is still evident, even with Nvidia cards. Hell, run Control at 4k (1440p with DLSS, the same res as consoles) and RTX on an RTX 2080 Super and you'll be getting 30 ish FPS still.
@likemy 3 жыл бұрын
@@riveraluciano nah, runs fine at native on my 3080. What GPU do you actually own?
@riveraluciano 3 жыл бұрын
@@likemy yeah, and your 3080 costs on average (now) at least the price of both consoles together. I have an rtx 2080 super.
@likemy 3 жыл бұрын
@@riveraluciano why are you bringing up cost? you're asserting that current hardware cannot handle raytracing which is simply untrue. There are two generations of GPUs which can handle raytracing--albeit one more comfortably than the other. 2xxx cards do need dlss to help. Also, strange to say that a 3080 costs as much as two consoles. You're not finding either at MSRP anywhere--may as well compare like to like.
@e2zippo 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alex for another great video! However, PC still has issues with textures not loading, and that's with a RTX 3070, you have to enter settings and then exit again, is this "bug" solved on the PS5 version?
@marinesgtblake 3 жыл бұрын
Looks so good at 60fps. Hurry up tomorrow! I want to play it now!
@john_hunter_ 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how AMD is going with their version of DLSS. That could really help consoles reach the higher framerates.
@mrbananayellow4999 3 жыл бұрын
LOL don't hold your breath
@635574 3 жыл бұрын
And when the RDNA3 or 4 refresh comes mid gen.
@CyborgSodaCollects 3 жыл бұрын
When is Sony going to debut their own DLSS solution for PS5? I remember Cerny talking about it.
@spicynachos2762 3 жыл бұрын
They already do, Consoles use checkerboard upscaling.
@nemodemolishedgamer7440 3 жыл бұрын
@Sam Houser That's Why Actually PS4pro Never Used Native Resolution Over 1080p In Whole generations Relied on Checkerboard ,Upscaling and Dynamic resolution on majority of the games
@jeffgilleese6332 3 жыл бұрын
They should have an option for 1080p 60fps RT.
@rahulpandey9472 3 жыл бұрын
Probably wasn't able to reach locked 60 at 1080p too so they just left it at locked 30.
@zahidrehman528 3 жыл бұрын
@@rahulpandey9472 sorry if insomniac can implement for miles morales in short turnaround and that is open world game..... remedy should be able to do it too @ 1080p 60fps in a linear game
@alexkeeton5624 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think we will see Raytracing 60Fps for another console generation. Hell even on PC Raytracing in Newer games is making These 3000 series cards look underpowered. In my opinion as cool as Raytracing is. It’s not as much of a game changer as they talk it up to be. It more or less distracts me from playing a game. Cause you wanna stop and look at every detail. In the thick of Combat sometimes it tough to tell what Is raytraced and what isn’t.
@rahulpandey9472 3 жыл бұрын
@@zahidrehman528 Not same engine, not the same studio. There could be a lot more things going on in the background that's preventing it from reaching 60 fps.
@Lalesama1987 3 жыл бұрын
@@zahidrehman528 first party studios know their hardware.
@mjayjoseph855 3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to get back into that mindbending world. Looking forward to seeing what Remedy is going to do on the ps5 😳
@SITSIndustries 3 жыл бұрын
@Alex: what framerate do you think the PS5 is generating if Graphics mode was unlocked? Furthermore, if the internal res was dropped from 1440p to 1080p, do you think the PS5 could do a best-of-both worlds scenario of 1080p60 w/ RT, ala Spiderman?
@hiawa23 3 жыл бұрын
Curious how the X1X version compares to the SeriesX version.
@SynthMusicWorld 3 жыл бұрын
Well, I can tell you right now that playing at 60 FPS is pretty nice. I'm trying to think back to how it looked on my One X and there's not a whole lot that's obvious, beyond ray tracing.
@ImTheMan0fSteel 3 жыл бұрын
It's a pretty obvious difference. Ray tracing change the look of the entire game along with higher resolutions. Idk why didn't talk about the series x version here.
@hiawa23 3 жыл бұрын
@@ImTheMan0fSteel I assume they plan on covering the Series X/S versions later and how they compare to the X1X version.
@hiawa23 3 жыл бұрын
@@SynthMusicWorld I thought it looked pretty good on the X1X, as I own the disc, and wanted to continue my save from last gen. I see the PS4/PS5 enhanced copy is the PS Plus free game of the month.
@ImTheMan0fSteel 3 жыл бұрын
@@hiawa23 hope so! Runs butter smooth. Hope they add this version to gamepass. Was kinda frustrated that they added the non updated version like a few weeks before this launched. It was orhinally supposed to be the special edition but it got delayed. Did you check out that new series exclusive?? Good God that game is gorgeous. And just brilliant honestly. Has its issues but games trying something new always do. Nice to see the variety this time around for xbox.
@D71219ONE 3 жыл бұрын
This is tough, because I love how the ray tracing looks, but getting to play the end of Ghost of Tsushima in 60fps really showed me the benefits of higher frame rates. I’ll need to try both modes out and see I suppose.
@DeKBraa 3 жыл бұрын
If it's stable 30 fps, It'll look smooth.
@florianebner934 3 жыл бұрын
@@DeKBraa wouldn’t consider 30 smooth
@spenny2cents 3 жыл бұрын
@@DeKBraa 30fps is literally the opposite of smooth
@Mdawgeezy21 3 жыл бұрын
Great work man!
@raggedcritical 3 жыл бұрын
I'm reminded that the first 3D game I played that used a proper physics engine was Max Payne 2, another Remedy game. Good to see them pushing the envelope again.
@demos1073 3 жыл бұрын
Why cant we have 1080p with medium/high details instead of 2160p/1440p with low detalis ??
@janeshawley9360 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@mickeyriola9087 3 жыл бұрын
Cause it ain’t a pc
@rahulpandey9472 3 жыл бұрын
Thats why I don't like consoles because you have no control over what kind of experience you want.
@weaverquest 3 жыл бұрын
If you are watching this video on a high-resolution display the clarity in textures and models that comes with high resolution is a lot more significant than improvements that come with higher setting compared in this video. I couldn't even tell the difference without the 400% zoom-ins and someone pointing it out. Though I guess 1080p med/high would have been a nice option for people playing on 1080p displays.
@janeshawley9360 3 жыл бұрын
@@rahulpandey9472 me to
@L4veyan 3 жыл бұрын
AMD needs to step up their game already and get ai upscaling to work on consoles, the compromises currently are huge.
@captainthunderbolt7541 3 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way. PS5 and Series X are really missing that next gen feel. Most games run at 1440p on my PS4 Pro, and the absence here of RT shadows and bounce lighting just leaves the visuals looking incomplete.
@NGuy-kz2eh 3 жыл бұрын
I believe that RDNA2 just doesn't have the same kind of AI oomph in the hardware as the RTX cards, so I'm worried that AMD's DLSS competitor is gonna dissapoint. At the very least tho, I wish devs would make use of the reconstruction techniques that are already possible. Temporal Injection in Spider-Man is awesome. If you didn't tell me that God of War was checkerboard 4K, I probably couldn't tell. With existing tech today you can improve image quality a lot with minimal performance cost.
@nighttimestalker 3 жыл бұрын
Xbox will support support it with direct ML. But it's still being worked on
@ajamesa1982 3 жыл бұрын
@@nighttimestalker but as the guy above said these new consoles lack the AI oomph compared to the rtx cards, the series x for example has about 50% machine learning performance of an rtx2060.
@nighttimestalker 3 жыл бұрын
@@ajamesa1982 Direct ML is based off direct x 12 ultimate. Something Xbox uses.
@guimcast1 3 жыл бұрын
I played the full game on PC with a RTX 3090 and ryzen 3900. It runs at 45fps on exact same configs shown in 12:55 (4k; 2.5k render) but with everything enabled and maxxed out. I'd say PS5 GPU is close to a 3080, more or less. If you have a 3090, make sure to increase the render resolution by editing de .ini file in the game's folder. Nice vid!
@kubev 3 жыл бұрын
I was planning on playing this in performance mode, but I don't think I could un-see the shadow issues at 9:13 if I played this, so I think I'm gonna go with quality mode.
@carlomorischi3435 3 жыл бұрын
Now the question is: is there any hope to expect from PS5 AAA titles running at 1440p (dynamic) at 60fps with RT? I'm starting to have serious doubts. I really hope this can be possible with Next-gen only titles, specifically optimised
@samuelcunningham7045 3 жыл бұрын
Miles has a performance RT mode that’s really good
@seizonsha 2 жыл бұрын
You don't need raytracing for amazing graphics or an amazing gaming experience. Eg. Red dead on pc or demon souls ps5.
@DrKrFfXx000000000000 3 жыл бұрын
No matter how much praise RT reflections get, once you are actually playing, not static, contemplating, all those little details highlighted by RT get ignored. The 30 fps, meanwhile, you notice them every single moment.
@DanFarrell98 3 жыл бұрын
I think I’ll play with Graphics mode, the ray tracing just looks so good!
@oleost 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for the other video to come live.
@stephonhines3013 3 жыл бұрын
Xbox drops more frames
@InnuendoXP 3 жыл бұрын
The physics in this reminds me a bit of CellFactor. Remember when dedicated physics processers were a thing?
@Marc28031984 3 жыл бұрын
Ageia Physx
@Stef3m 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact is that it actually use PhysX
@DrTurdsley 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't know which mode I'm going to replay this game in.
@nyne6 3 жыл бұрын
Same here...
@chimaera6234 3 жыл бұрын
I just noticed something really weird with the rt reflections. If the charakter moves, all of the reflections are postponed and find their real spot when you stand still after a slight delay 🤔
@duncan7961 3 жыл бұрын
So how close were you to finding out the equivalent pc settings before you got Remedy's message? Did you get them all right?
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