Converting a Drum Set Snare into an Orchestra Snare

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In this video I show you how to convert a drum set snare drum (a Dialtune NOB snare) into a drum suitable for orchestra playing. I talk about changing the heads to thinner Diplomats and changing the snare system as well as tuning the drum.
I compare newly tweeked Dialtune against a Pearl Philharmonic NOB 4"x 14" snare.
I try 2 different types of snares on the Dialtune: Grover 13" SX Orchestral Silver/Bronze snares (model GRO-13SX) and Black Swamp wrap-around snares (model W14CS)
Here are the Time Stamps
0:00 Introduction
2:21 Pearl Snare
3:39 Dialtune Snare with stock curly snares
8:54 Different Orch. Snare Systems
9:40 Grover Snare System
13:08 Pearl vs Dialtone with Grover Snares
14:58 Pearl vs Dialtone with Black Swamp Snares
The sticks I am using are 70 gram leopardwood which I make and sell. If you are interested in a pair, you can contact me at rickdior@gmail.com. You can find out more about the sticks here rickdior.com/sticks/
I have more complete reviews of several orchestra snare drums in this playlist Rick Dior's Orchestral percussion instrument playlist: • Rick Dior's Orchestral...

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@tuknchuk 2 жыл бұрын

I would love to see a tutorial on how you teach / develop your buzz strokes and how you maintain them. Thanks 🙏 another great video and contribution to the drumming community. All the best !!!

@rickdior Жыл бұрын

Hi If you search for "Rolls" on my site, you will find several videos on this topic Thanks Rick

@davidperaza9526 2 жыл бұрын

I've been waiting for you to make this video!!! I have so many drum sets snares but not a single concert snare and sometimes I've tried the conversion but never have nailed it in my opinion. Thanks for all the insight Rick, you are truly a drum guru.

@mikeanderson1610 2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you about the clip included with the Puresound snare wire. It's a PITA and takes longer to re-fit than simply removing the strap from the clamp.

@Georgesavvas 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! Thank you Rick

@HankNinja 2 жыл бұрын

Yay! Been looking forward to this.

@jmfs3497 Жыл бұрын

This video came up on drumforum. I play in the grey area between jazz and modern classical, and the wetness of my snares is always something I'm trying to dry out. I will try changing to non-curly wires.

@ronperc 2 жыл бұрын

Aprendi muito com seu vídeo Sr. Rick, obrigado.

@vgomesmusic 8 ай бұрын

Nice mr rick, i have my black swamp snare cable.

@brichpmr 2 жыл бұрын

Very informative, Rick. I actually purchased a base 6.5/14 Black Swamp Maple sd a few months back, which came with the non-wrap around version of those snares, and I liked the crisp response and tone to the point that I installed the same snares on my Tama 6.5/14 drum set snare drum....I like the easy responsiveness and control of the ring. I am using (on both drums) a Freer leather drum mute.

@elfurrohetero3518 19 күн бұрын

3:16 Ravel reference!

@jerrytanenbaum2374 Жыл бұрын

I love the clarity of the concert snares. How do you feel about using them for jazz with the drum set?

@rickdior Жыл бұрын

With the concert snares on there it's too dry of a sound for me in that setting. You can change over the snares and move back and forth between different types of music.

@zoohuman Жыл бұрын

love your playing and knowledge, your channel is amazing, which is why I'm turning to you for a question I can't find the answer to. Why are cymbals from the fifties and back bendable and shake a lot when you hit them, but cymbals from the late fifties and up don't. Thank you!

@rickdior Жыл бұрын

Hi Cymbals started to get a bit thicker with the advent of Rock N Roll in the 50's when the playing became harder and drummers with less refined technique started bashing the hell out of them. Breakage was common so Zildjian started making heavier A's at this time. Thats why the A's from the 40's and 50's generally sound better than the later A's. The thinness of the cymbal creates that wave that you are describing. Most of the old K's do that.

@zoohuman Жыл бұрын

@@rickdior Thank you!!🙌

@HankNinja 2 жыл бұрын

I was more than half expecting to hear the Scheherazade excerpt.

@HankNinja 2 жыл бұрын

(Not a complaint. Was fun to play the “is he gonna play it next?” game.)

@christianborres Жыл бұрын

Great video! I just want to ask if the black swamp wrap around snare wire requires deep snare beds for it to work well?

@rickdior Жыл бұрын

Hi They do not require snare beds to work although they will help with seating the snares on the very thin snare head.

@christianborres Жыл бұрын

@@rickdior Thank you so much for the reply! Really love the content!

@PMAHockey Жыл бұрын

I only have maple orchestral drums, so I don't currently have the benefits of a metal drum. I'd be interested to see what my acrolite sounds like doing a conversion like this. Have you ever tried this with an acrolite or superphonic?

@rickdior Жыл бұрын

I have and it works fine as long as you use the correct snares. The Ludwig strainers on those drums are not so great. You would get better results with an older p 87.

@elfurrohetero3518 19 күн бұрын

What drumsticks are you using?

@rickdior 19 күн бұрын

I am using sticks that I make and sell. You can see them at www.rickdior.com/ sticks Thanks