COOL YOUR HARLEY - SEE Force Flow Fan Installation

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COOL YOUR HARLEY! Step-by-Step Installation of the Force Flow Fan. Reduces Engine Temps for Longer Life, Better Performance and a More Comfortable Ride. W/ Built In Horn!
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@itsapittie Жыл бұрын

As always, useful, practical, and easy to understand. I really appreciate you guys.

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

Great to hear you are finding the videos useful. Thank you for the comment. 👍

@ScareCrowHD 19 күн бұрын

great video i just bought a hd and the previous owner had a JIMS fan he was going to install but gave it to me with the bike. Was a little intimidating seeing the directions but you made it look manageable. Thanks

@DKCustomProducts 18 күн бұрын

Thanks you! I am glad you found the video informative! Thank you for commenting! MB

@johnlynch215 Жыл бұрын

Really love this video that deals with the Tri glide, will have to get one of these for mine

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

Thanks man, glad you found the video useful. Appreciate your comment.👍 Unfortunately they are out of stock right now, but should be back in stock before too long. www.dkcustomproducts.com/cooling-components-c661-217.htm

@kimschorah3862 11 ай бұрын

Great job, great video. Thanks

@DKCustomProducts 11 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it and are finding the videos useful/interesting. 👍

@f.t.w1066 Жыл бұрын

Good job looks great.👍👍👍👍🇦🇺

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍. Been running it on this Trike for a couple of weeks now. Really liking the different look AND it cools virtually the same as the fans I was running previously.

@erichall7540 Ай бұрын

I watch all your videos

@DKCustomProducts Ай бұрын

Awesome! Thank you for your support and for commenting! MB

@Grunt49 Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

You're welcome, glad you are finding the videos useful/interesting. 👍

@jamesduke7965 Жыл бұрын

The Horn they provide sounds like and minibike horn . Gheeeezz.

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

For those that use their horn, you can still use the stock horn, along with the built in one. 👍

@jackklarich7045 Жыл бұрын

Good video and tech info, I like Jims stuff. In years gone by I had bought some Jims tools, they are top of the line tho expensive

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

Hi Jack! Thanks for watching and commenting. Right there with ya, quality parts and tools...and the price to go with it.

@hokaheyrider059 Жыл бұрын

I recently replaced my EVO with a Twin Cam and am seriously considering one of the JIMS fans. I had forgotten how damn hot the TC's can get and appreciate you putting up this video.

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately the Twin Cam JIMS Force Flow is out of stock for the Twin Cams. If you can find someplace that still has inventory, and you want it, that would be the way to go. JIMS has said it is going to be quite a few months still before they have more for the Twin Cams. We do have black ones for the M8.

@toddaod295 Жыл бұрын

Love mine, installed on my softail last April. Worked awesome all summer long, especially when having to stop at several lights making my way home on a 95+ degree day. Thermostat engages fan at 140 degrees cylinder head temp but if it's a cooler day and oil temp wouldn't come close to 230 I'd turn it off with the switch. Little more to install on softail since the coil needs to be relocated to the top front engine mount bracket and new length plug wires but after having all summer well worth the cost and time to install imo. The fan is very well made which seems the norm for Jim's. Thanks for another great video!

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear you're enjoying yours. Devin, the "D" in DK has been running one on his Stage IV Street Glide for quite a few years now and it does a great job for him. Yeah, a bit more work with the M8 Softails with the coil relo needed. Thanks for the comment and info! 👍

@robertstevens6652 Жыл бұрын

Super kewl! was nice to see how to get the fan thermostat to mount on the twin cooled M8. I recently installed the love jugs on my 2018 Ultra Classic. I did hook up the wires directly to the battery. I do have to turn the fan on and off manually; however, I don't really mind doing that. If I ever got tired of the love jugs I'll try Jim's Force Flow Fan. I do like the look.

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

Thank for watching and commenting. 👍 Yeah, I ran the Wards Part Werks fans for years, and then the LJ's for many years. They work great. It was just time to go with a different look, but still keep the cooling benefits.

@patrickhollis5332 Жыл бұрын

Yea I’ve been looking to add one but same like the looks of Jims better but looks like the LJ with two fans would cool better but guess anything would be better than nothing but it does look like Jims is kinda center of the heads so I guess going in between the heads might be better have no clue

@01Lightning Жыл бұрын

Nice install! I too run a Jim's Force Flow fan on my 130 inch TMan engine. In stop and go, 95 degree weather I see 375 head temps thru my PV. Looks so much better than the Love Jugs, only bad thing is the puny horn, but I wired my factory horn in parallel and mounted the horn on the engine guard under my RGS Fairing

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

Very cool! That sounds like a fun engine! What is the ET reading on your Power Vision? Yeah, those that want a loud horn...it just won't fit in that housing, so best to do what you did and use them both. Thanks for sharing. 👍

@01Lightning Жыл бұрын

@@DKCustomProducts 375 was the highest reading I saw, now that fall is upon us here in the northeast, I see 325. One thing that "bothers" me, is the thermostat is on the front cylinder. My thinking is it should be on the rear cylinder, as its the hottest, but clearance would be an issue. (No tank lift on mine) And, Oh yeah, its a fun, fun ride.....Especially wacking the throttle in first.....second...third.....LOL 150/153 to the tire does that to you!

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

@@01Lightning Yeah, as you see I did install the thermostat in the video. Rode it that way for a couple of days. I have now bypassed the thermostat and just use the switch. I like it better that way,.

@chrisl.7345 Жыл бұрын

Another fine video, I might consider a JIM’S Vent if my attempts…successful sofar,..wont ad up when the hot California summer comes. BTW as an old “wrencher” myself I noticed that you don’t use grease ? 🤔….That’s probably me being an ol’school,…but Loctite and various Greases will never let you down 😂🤓👍🏻

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad you found the video useful. 👍 Here's a list of things you can do to cool it down come summer. www.dkcustomproducts.com/sleeper-performance-mods.htm Do you mean dielectric grease, or are you talking about grease on the threads? Yeah, I like Permatex thread locker.

@maximorides Жыл бұрын

interested to see if this works than the mighty mites. thank you for this install.

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

This cools almost as good as the Mighty Mites...only a few degrees difference. Here is a video of some real world temp testing of the ForceFlow- kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p7OGqrdh09vSlok.html

@bajarvcouple Жыл бұрын

Kevin, looks like you were getting ready for the desert.

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

Yes! Are you two back in AZ?

@billsinclair313 Жыл бұрын

So Harley designs an engine that can/will exceed the safe elevated operating temperatures as per their own manual, then charges you a fortune to buy their product, then on said Harley perfection you must spend additional dollars to help with engine cooling so you don’t ruin the engine. I get that right? Makes sense to me.

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

Yeah, not ideal, to say the least. Harley is in a catch-22. We discuss that at the beginning of this video- kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hJabf8SHts7Gh2g.html

@patrickhollis5332 Жыл бұрын

Yea but however the fan isn’t HD yea they make one to put under the seat that pulls air over the rear which they should install from factory especially much as they cost the bad thing with all the electric crap our wonderful I mean very very very wonderful government are doing all bikes r fixing to soar not sure what any manufacturers are going to do but yea they all are going to outta sight

@Nucklehead-mm9gf 27 күн бұрын

It's the EPA and European environmental agencies forcing more and more restrictions onto manufacturers like Harley and if they don't meet the requirements, they get shut down and not allowed to sell vehicles at all. Don't take all your anger out on Harley, it's the EPA and if those rediculous regulations weren't in place, Harley and every motor vehicle company would let their bikes and cars breath and it would be cheaper, better and more affordable for everyone involved. These envoronmental agencies are completely out of control and making it impossible for businesses to succeed and they're killing manufacturing which is a vital industry for any countries economy and jobs. Small businesses don't stand a chance with all the red tape if massive companies can barely manage. Most of their regulations do nothing for the environment, it's about money, power and control.

@richardrussell500 Жыл бұрын

My 2020 Freewheeler has an accessory port under the right side cover. No need for connecting wires to battery. I run Love Jugs.

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

No need on this to do a hot connection to the battery either, as shown in the video. I do prefer it though.

@richardrussell500 Жыл бұрын

@@DKCustomProducts with the Love Jugs, you simply plug the fan's power connector into the accessory port on the bike. no individual wiring necessary. no need to remove the tank or the seat. nothing is connected to the battery or a ground somewhere on the frame. and when you turn the bike on, the accessory port gives full power. really simple.

@jjones6173 Жыл бұрын

I wonder how the fan effects engine heat felt on the riders thighs? Very interesting product and typically excellent video.

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

When moving there is no extra heat felt. When sitting still, some do feel the fan blowing heat on the right side....but because the engine is less hot, the heat felt is less than a hotter engine radiating heat. The vast majority of folks are wearing jeans and do not feel anything. Thank you for the question, and glad you're liking the videos!

@mdfurr Жыл бұрын

I have been using your stuff since 2016 when I bought a new 2016 TG. I have a lot of items on this bike that came from DK and have been pleased with them. I enjoy watching your videos and they are very helpful. However, PLEASE find a place with "GOOD LIGHTING" to do your videos. Inside your building is just not a good place for producing videos. A lot of the details you are pointing to or talking about cannot really be seen. Maybe at least you can add some portable lighting in there to use when shooting videos. Keep up the good work with videos and as I said before, I am very pleased with all the DK products I have bought over the last 6 years. GREAT COMPANY with outstanding service after the sell. BTW, you have improved the sound and it is a lot better than some older videos.

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

Thanks man! Really appreciate your business, and Very Happy to hear you are liking the parts we make. Yes, making videos is a lot different than making parts. We have slowly been improving. Took over 6 different mic set ups before we finally got good audio. We are using secondary lighting, but just the other day we decided that we are going to move the majority of our indoor videoing to a different location. It will definitely be more well lit. Thank you for the good advice, confirms what we we've decided to do. Unfortunately it will be sometime in the new year before the new place is ready. Until then we will double the lighting that we have been using.

@mdfurr Жыл бұрын

@@DKCustomProducts GOOD NEWS. Well, the New Year will be here and gone before you know it. Keep up the good work and looking forward to more videos in the future! 👍

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

@@mdfurr Thanks man, we appreciate you watching the videos and your support! 👍

@darrenlingerfelt5879 Жыл бұрын

😎👍

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

👍😎👍

@revealingfacts4all Жыл бұрын

2 questions 1. Do the fans run all the time or are you reading temperature from CAN bus or on older models with no CAN bus do you have a temperature probe to detect when to run fans? 2. How many CFMs do the models put out and what data can you share showing the effects?

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

Eric, please go look at the link below. There is info there on how it is thermostatically controlled by a sensor that sits on the rocker box cover. OR, you can control it manually, turning it on and off whenever you choose. www.dkcustomproducts.com/jims-force-flow-fan-cools-twin-cam-engine.htm Also, at the link above, in the Technical Info tab there are test results on 3 different bikes. You can see a video at the link below of the testing also- kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p7OGqrdh09vSlok.html And here is a link to a written test report- www.dkcustomproducts.com/force-flow-fan-test-report.htm I don't recall ever seeing a CFM rating on the ForceFlow Fan.

@robertturriff9836 Жыл бұрын

Question for you: Did you change out your 10-inch bars to the 12-inch bars for better handling?

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

I use The Comfort Triangle (video linked below) to find the best/most comfortable position. I have a bad left shoulder, so my bars are generally closer than most. You may find this video interesting- kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j5qgiqqFz5PNdHk.html

@ccmlkm 9 ай бұрын

Question for Kevin, what terminals that the relay plugs into did you apply power to to make sure the fan worked before you installed? I'm guessing that's where he applied power to make sure the fan was good. Mine's already installed and the fan is not coming on and Jim's first response at the factory was to bypass the thermostat. I really don't want to do that if I don't have to. I need to start at square one and make sure the fan turns on with power applied to it. If that works then I guess I'll go ahead and assume the relay is ok and bypass the thermostat. I hate to assume but dang. Thank you!

@DKCustomProducts 9 ай бұрын

At the 7:16 mark in the video you can see the connector that I am holding. That is where I checked the fan to make sure it was functioning prior to the installation. I did not test the relay prior to installation. Maybe I should have, but I did not.

@ccmlkm 9 ай бұрын

@@DKCustomProducts Made up some jumpers and thankfully the fan works. So I'll bypass the thermostat I guess per Jim's instructions and go from there. I was so happy that I was able to put the thermostat on the rear cylinder on the right side because it made me more happy that I had the DK Customs gas tank lift kit installed. Oh well, still very happy with that air getting over the heads. Thanks guys!😁👌

@DKCustomProducts 9 ай бұрын

Glad you got it figured out! Thank you for your business and for commenting! 😎

@sector1066 Жыл бұрын

Does this work for the FXDR?

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

Yes, it works with all 2018-2023 FXDR's. You can see fitment notes and other info at this link- www.dkcustomproducts.com/jims-force-flow-fan-cools-twin-cam-engine.htm

@chogumchonsa Жыл бұрын

I am curious if these would fit my 04 fatboy EFI? I can not find any info if it would.

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

Here is the link to them- www.dkcustomproducts.com/jims-force-flow-fan-cools-twin-cam-engine.htm Unfortunately the fans for the Twin Cam are out of stock and there is no date when they are expected back in stock, except, somewhere around the end of this year. Here is a link to other things you can do to cool your ride down- www.dkcustomproducts.com/cooling-components-c661-246.htm

@tomedwards159 Жыл бұрын

would you want to mount it on the rear cylinder because it gets hotter?

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

Great question. 👍 Since the rear cylinder does run hotter, this fan is designed with that in mind. The fan is offset, with much more of the air directed at the rear cylinder. You can see that, starting at the 10:22 mark in this video.

@Fathead1137 9 ай бұрын

How does this compare to the love jugs

@DKCustomProducts 9 ай бұрын

:Loaded question. Back a few years ago the Mighty-Mites worked a little better than the ForceFlow. BUT, Love Jugs has gone downhill. The owner died, the daughter took over, and quality, Customer Service, Warranty, and delivery are questionable at best. For the ForceFlow, there have been none available for the Twin Cam for almost a year, and they are saying that it will be the end of the year, at the soonest, before there are any for the TC. For the M8, they are only available in black right now, and there is a 1-3 week wait on those. With the Mighty-Mites in question, on my M8 I am running a FlorceFlow.

@01Lightning Жыл бұрын

Oh, and forgot to add. You need to double check the thermostat wires and make sure they clear the bottom of the tank. Don't ask how I know.....LOL

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

Yeah, we should have shared that in the video too...make sure all the wires clear. We use tank lifts, so there was plenty of room and we did not even think of that.

@kenfloe3536 10 ай бұрын

Will the fan fit on a 23 Softail break out? 117 Milwaukee eight

@DKCustomProducts 10 ай бұрын

In order to install the Forceflow on the M8 Softails, it is necessary to re-locate the coil. This Kit includes a turnkey coil relocation system to move the coil to the front of the motorcycle inconspicuously tucked underneath the neck of the bike, in-between the frame tubes. This new mounting system allows the Forceflow to be installed on all Milwaukee Eight Softail motorcycles. Non-stock components that are installed in this area, under the neck, may conflict with the coil relocation, this Includes the Harley Brand Engine Guard. The coil cannot be relocated for the Force Flow if an Engine Guard is installed. Please feel free to email our customer service at support@dkcustomproducts.com or call 662-252-8828 for any questions you might have. Thank you for watching!

@danpintal1215 Жыл бұрын

Hi there, Is there an on/off switch so that you can bypass the thermostat? Thank you so much for the vid. Dan

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

There is an on/off switch that works with the thermostat. It will only turn it on or off if the thermostat is up to temp. You can bypass the thermostat completely and run it where it will only turn on or off with the switch. This is an unsupported mod, but it is the one I ended up running on mine.

@scrumthebum2451 11 ай бұрын

@@DKCustomProductsI just ordered one , can i not even hook up the thermostat & just turn on off as needed? To me the thermostat should be near where the ET sensor is. I have a power vision so I can see when my temperature gets where I don’t like it. Thanks

@DKCustomProducts 11 ай бұрын

@@scrumthebum2451 Yes, you can use the switch in concert with the Thermostat to turn it off, but not to turn it on if the thermostat is not warm. The JIMS thermostat sits on outside of the rocker cover, so it is Not in the same place as the HD temp sensor, but it also activates at a lower temp than the HD heat sensor uses to start trying to cool the bike down.

@scrumthebum2451 11 ай бұрын

@@DKCustomProducts Thanks for reply the seller canceled the order & refunded my payment apparently the 5401 model for twin cam is not available all the sudden ?

@DKCustomProducts 11 ай бұрын

@@scrumthebum2451 That is correct. The Twin Cam version has not been available for many months. They are redesigning it and have said the soonest it would be available is the end of this year. You can see info on that at this link- www.dkcustomproducts.com/jims-force-flow-fan-cools-twin-cam-engine.htm

@HarleyGriffith Жыл бұрын

With the fan blowing left to right, do you still recommend removing the left mid-frame air deflector and keeping the right? In the video you use an adapter to get power from the diagnostic port, but why not ground it back to the battery? Is there no ground on the diagnostic port?

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

Yes, for the mid-frame protector, it is most effective (with or without a fan) to have the right side in place and the left side removed. In this video we do talk about running the ground directly to the battery. 12:07 mark.

@HarleyGriffith Жыл бұрын

@@DKCustomProducts Sorry! Typo. I meant to ask: why ground it back to the battery instead of to the diagnostic port.

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

@@HarleyGriffith Easier and cleaner for me.

@sheilafay7972 Жыл бұрын

I would prefer a louder horn like the factory horn.

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

For folks that use their horns, and want them loud, you can still use your stock horn (relocated) in addition to the built in horn. 👍

@georgedelgado9512 Жыл бұрын

I like it but I just dont like that it dosent come in chrome plate

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

It used to, and it may again one day.

@rickkinney7830 Жыл бұрын

How does the horn compare to the stock horn, or a Custom Dynamics Pro Beast horn?

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

It is 80-90 % as loud as the stock horn. Not in the same category as the Pro Beast. If you want a loud horn, this is what we use- www.dkcustomproducts.com/chrome-bad-boy-wolo-air-horn-dual-tone-loud-w-wiring-kit-dk-wolo-519-comb.htm

@rickkinney7830 Жыл бұрын

@@DKCustomProducts I think I want to get either the Force fan or Love Jugs, but also want a louder horn than what is stock. The Pro Beast probably won't fit with Love Jugs, right?

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

I do not know. Wish I could help, but just have not experience with fitment of the Pro Beast.

@emilioemilios3842 11 ай бұрын

Will this fan fit my harley davidson 2012 fatboy lo

@DKCustomProducts 11 ай бұрын

Here is the link to it- www.dkcustomproducts.com/jims-force-flow-fan-cools-twin-cam-engine.htm It will be close to the end of the year before more are in stock to fit your 2012 FatBoy Twin Cam Force Flow Fans are Out of Stock We are unable to sell the Twin Cam Fans at this time. Please check back periodically for updates!

@emilioemilios3842 11 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for your response I will be on the look out

@DKCustomProducts 11 ай бұрын

@@emilioemilios3842 Good deal man, thanks for watching our videos!

@dannyburgess2781 Жыл бұрын

Fan. Come in chrome ?

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

Normally yes, but they are Currently out of stock indefinitely.

@johnsb1550 Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the video but for 530 bucks I'm not cutting and splicing anything on a 48K bike...needs a better way for that price

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

If watch the entire video you will see that the install is done completely with NO cutting or splicing. 👍

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

@@RedTickJJ Thanks Tony! Appreciate your comment, and glad you are digging the videos.

@wtf0101 Жыл бұрын

Great fan,horn sucks bad,for the money the horn should be alot louder

@amphibdriver1 Жыл бұрын

The horn on my 2019 Road Glide Ultra is VERY LOUD.

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

Yeah, horn is not as loud as stock. Pretty sure it is as loud as it can be in the space there is in the enclosure. The instructions include how to use the stock horn in conjunction with the built-in horn if you want loud.

@weaponizedmath4369 Жыл бұрын

Bike 30k, after market UPGRADES another 12k re-sale price in a year 19k 😂 like owning an AR

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

Not sure where you got those numbers. That's not been my experience, not even close. Last new bike I bought, and then sold- 36k purchase price, aftermarket upgrades less than 6k. 64K miles of fantastic riding and memories, sold for 32k 3.5 years later. 😀

@DjMikeattackLV Жыл бұрын

$529.95 😂😂😂😂

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

Yep, was less expensive than rebuilding an engine that has run too long too hot.

@pauldineno6919 Жыл бұрын

Lame duck horn!

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

Use em both. You can keep using your factory horn along with this one.

@pauldineno6919 Жыл бұрын

I junked the HD horn and installed an air horn, Wolo. Now that is a horn. The horns on bikes today are no better than the 1960's Honda step through. IMHO.

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

@@pauldineno6919 Yes, great choice. That is what I run on my Softail...it is LOUD and sounds nice too. At 118 dB and dual tone, it definitely gets heard- www.dkcustomproducts.com/horns-c101-285.htm

@pauldineno6919 Жыл бұрын

@@DKCustomProducts I must also say that I do enjoy your videos Do you ever get into performance upgrades?

@DKCustomProducts Жыл бұрын

@@pauldineno6919 Here is a video where we talk about Performance Upgrades and what we do- kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbFlq5adyLfaeok.html