Copper Pipes are Failing in Folsom, CA!!! WHY PEX IS BETTER

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TileCoach

TileCoach

4 ай бұрын

Copper pipes are commonly used and thought of as the best material for water supply lines. But PEX piping has now become the choice of plumbers in US residential construction for several factors including:
1.) Faster installation times.
2.) More flexibility and reduced chances of bursting when freezing.
3.) Less susceptible to acidic or alkaline water damage.
4.) Long runs of tube more easily stored and transported.
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@williammorris3303
@williammorris3303 4 ай бұрын
He is absolutely correct. If you don’t mind the stainless claws inside the sharkbite interaction with the copper and corroding off to allow a water explosion inside the wall eventually , you can couple pex to copper with them
@I-TILE
@I-TILE 4 ай бұрын
Good Stuff Coach, Keep up the great work!
@TileCoach
@TileCoach 4 ай бұрын
Appreciate it!
@deckmonkey1459
@deckmonkey1459 4 ай бұрын
There's the same problem with pinholes up here. It's from galvanic action because sparky or the airhead used a galvanized ground clamp on the copper at the meter or to bond the furnace gas pipe to the hot water tank copper line. As soon as any electrical current is applied to the line and you have condensation, it becomes a battery and the copper gives up its electrons and essentially dissolves itself. That's why 99% of the leaks are on the cold line. You have to change the clamps to brass or you will always have problems.
@TileCoach
@TileCoach 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info, readers will appreciate this comment!
@johnwhite2576
@johnwhite2576 2 ай бұрын
SXEE BELOW -YET JERTEMY CLAISM 99 % LEAKS ON ON HOT SIDE ??
@adubbelde1
@adubbelde1 4 ай бұрын
I was maintenance manager at a large corporation in Minnesota. We did water analysis and put coupons in our boilers to test and adjust the chemical balance of the feedwater. I installed an RO system for the feedwater. Behind that we had to add back certain minerals to adjust the PH of the water. Without that RO water is corrosive.
@snell2k
@snell2k 4 ай бұрын
Love Pex-A and easy for a DIY guy like me… not sure if you closed those shutoffs after the video but I heard if left open without a cartridge It’ll end up mixing cold and hot water through the house. Also, love you too man!!
@jadesea562
@jadesea562 4 ай бұрын
we love you too man
@TimFant-cm9wc
@TimFant-cm9wc 4 ай бұрын
i have personal have seen 2 occasions were rats have chewed through pex pipe however those locations had rat infestation, i do agree it is rare. also there are times when using pex a u might want to wait 10 to 15 minutes before turning water on so the fittings have time to seat really well. doesn't hurt to wait. love your videos and have learned a lot from your coaching. i have a question though. you always say do not use 2x4 to build a curb! when getting a shower ready for a hot mop , what do you use to build a shower curb?
@bootscooty
@bootscooty 4 ай бұрын
Doing a bathroom DIY remodel. Just wondering if you could do a partial wall demolition? Do you have to go all the way to the ceiling? The material is cement with chicken wire, so it's the old style. I demolished the entire tile wall. Just wondering if I need to go up further. There's a bathtub underneath that we're keeping
@SirHumano97
@SirHumano97 4 ай бұрын
Nothing beats good ol' copper piping with soldered joints and fittings. PEX is pushed because it's easier to work with and lower skill workers can install it.
@TileCoach
@TileCoach 4 ай бұрын
I like doing copper myself. There is an art to it.
@proficientbuilders3565
@proficientbuilders3565 4 ай бұрын
Copper is anti microbial & 100yr plus, drinking from plastic not good.
@Rlprime
@Rlprime 4 ай бұрын
@@proficientbuilders3565tell that to my 40 year pinhole leaks.
@polyboy080
@polyboy080 4 ай бұрын
@sirhumano97 1950s copper maybe, nowadays all copper is poor quality. There should be a new label maybe sacrificial copper piping: replace after 15yrs.
@JohnChuprun
@JohnChuprun 4 ай бұрын
Only problem with PEX is that the expanding type (which is what I like too) had an issue with the colored pipes, but since they switched to the clear type it is no longer an issue. PEX-A is just so easy, can use way less fittings too which is the weak point in any system.
@scottswannie2500
@scottswannie2500 4 ай бұрын
Just confirming you put insulation back into that wall before backing board placement? Especially if it’s an exterior wall? Thanks.
@bluearcherx
@bluearcherx 4 ай бұрын
there was a Purdue University study that showed PEX-A has issues with leaching chemicals into the water. Another Issue is that the colored (red/blue) PEX-A has a lawsuit currently over the fact that the process of apply the color to the white pipe makes the white pipe plastic fail prematurely. This is specifically an Uponor brand issue. The white pipe with colored lettering isn't affected. PEX-B doesn't have checmical leaching issues that I've seen, and there are numerous brands of PEX-B that are F1960 rated for the expansion method you show here (Sioux Chief, Zurn, maybe others). PEX-B is still a bit stiffer and harder to work with, but it's not really that bad.
@anthonyman8008
@anthonyman8008 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! ❤
@taylorthompson9543
@taylorthompson9543 4 ай бұрын
This is why it’s critical when installing Uponor Pex-A that you only use their fittings. Reason being, it’s the only way Uponor will cover a failure but secondly, the chemical additive in Pex-A in order to protect against chlorine breakdown which can degrade PEX to become brittle will leach out of the pipe if using certain types of non Uponor fittings. What’s happening in these scenarios is that the chemical will naturally try and migrate to other types of non Uponor fittings that are not chemically treated the same way and when it rapidly leaches out of the PEX pipe it leaves the pipe fragile to chlorine breakdown. Another way to put this in perspective is to think about temperature. Science tells us heat always moves towards cold. Suppose you’re standing next to a cold window. Heat leaves your body and tries to take that energy and warm up the cold window but as it leaves your body, you’re left cold and chilled feeling uncomfortable. That’s what’s happening with the chlorine protectant additive in Uponors Pex-A. This chemical treating is in regard to how certain pex is made using what they call crosslinking. For anyone curious, check out Legend HyperPure Pex which is a full Polyethylene Raised Temperature tubing that uses no chemical additives or crosslinking to protect against chlorine. Its chlorine resistance is Level 5, the highest in Pex. All this being said, no matter what the product, if manufacturers guidelines are not followed, there’s an increase in chance for failure some worse than others. This is true in just about everything, however, more and more, building products that are being engineered are more sensitive to install error meaning they’re not as forgiving and it’s important going forward that the installers become very familiar with the products they use. It also means consumers shouldn’t ask their professionals to use something they aren’t familiar with!
@TileCoach
@TileCoach 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the info! I will look up that study.
@R900DZ
@R900DZ 4 ай бұрын
I smelled the chemicals in the water when my repipe with PEX A was brand new. Within 2 days or so of normal use the smell was gone. If you read the uponor literature they specify flushing the system thoroughly for 15 minutes when it’s brand new. So far so good .
@fatcat-hc4pj
@fatcat-hc4pj 4 ай бұрын
Do you do any sream showers? If so what steam generators do you use
@rainmaker3700
@rainmaker3700 4 ай бұрын
I have been a remodeler in California for almost 30 years, commercial and residential. I have replace plenty of leaky copper, I have also replaced those plastic expander rings that leaked. I have never found a leaky shark bite or a leaky copper pex crimp ring. I don't use sharkbites because of the cost, but they have been used around the world for like 40 years now.
@gdglock
@gdglock 3 ай бұрын
When you replaced the PEX A plastic expandable ferrels, were they used on PEX A fittings and PEX A a tubing? Just curious, as the only time I’ve seen them fail has been when they were mixed with PEX B fittings, or not fully inserted on the fitting.
@Pineapple-mi3wj
@Pineapple-mi3wj 4 ай бұрын
With that said is it the city provider of water that can be damaging copper pipes as far as chemicals? And if that’s the case is there a product to install before your main, filter wise?.
@JeremeyHowlett
@JeremeyHowlett 4 ай бұрын
The failures are almost always on the hot side of the domestic hot water system. The reason for this is because the water heater tanks are made from iron, as the tanks rust, bits and pieces of metal break off and travel into the copper pipes. When they settle, they start to react with the copper. If the house electrical system is grounded to the water pipes, and there’s a short and current is flowing through the grounding and into the water pipes, this causes the iron flake to react and corrode faster.
@johnwhite2576
@johnwhite2576 2 ай бұрын
SEE AABOVE- DECK MONKEY CLAISM 99% ARE ON COLD SIDE, NOT HOT ?
@ruelsmith
@ruelsmith 4 ай бұрын
There were a few class action settlements involving mixing PEX and brass fittings. It caused dezincification in the fittings and they failed. Some manufacturers have moved to bronze fittings, instead, to rectify the situation. Just be aware. Easiest thing to do is use plastic fittings by the same manufacturer. We've gone to using Viega's system using the ProPress guns. It's PEX B, which does reduce your flow, so you have to be aware where it's necessary to enlarge your pipe size, when you need flow.
@henryhenry271
@henryhenry271 4 ай бұрын
why not just press copper?
@ruelsmith
@ruelsmith 4 ай бұрын
@henryhenry271 Depends on the job. I just did a hospital, where everything in-wall 3/4 and 1/2" was PEX up to 18" out of the wall. All the mains and branches were ProPress copper, as large as 4", as well as all the closet connections were completely copper (1") and public bathroom groups were copper. Depends on the job specs. Some jobs are still soldered, but it's getting rare. And certan connections are still preferred to be soldered, such as fittings that might stick through the drywall in a noticeable place. I just did a school extension that got soldered completely.
@AKJammer1
@AKJammer1 4 ай бұрын
All correct except for the comment on orifice size. You're thinking Pex-B. B's fittings fit inside of the pipe so they constrict flow. Pex-A has the same ID as the pipe so no constriction, hence the need for expansion to put them on. That's why I switched to A, so I didn't have to keep upsizing my pipes to get the flow I wanted. Good review.
@TileCoach
@TileCoach 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the calrification!
@proficientbuilders3565
@proficientbuilders3565 4 ай бұрын
Code in oregon is 1/2 id
@user-ll1pe5wb7d
@user-ll1pe5wb7d 4 ай бұрын
Hello. Do you write a scope of work for your projects? Some people asked me to have one and I usually worked without it, everything in my mind. Don't even know how to make one
@sshhmmuueell
@sshhmmuueell 4 ай бұрын
I had a squirrel come and chew the pex heating pipe Brooklyn ny
@TileCoach
@TileCoach 4 ай бұрын
Good to know!
@rainmaker3700
@rainmaker3700 4 ай бұрын
they like the sweat taste of the glycol.
@radman999
@radman999 4 ай бұрын
Great system. I am still not sure about those plastic elbows. I would personally use the brass. Also I believe you have to wait 30 minutes for a leak test.
@deejaydaze
@deejaydaze 3 ай бұрын
Had a plastic elbow leak once (work done by someone else). Replaced everything with brass
@conradcoolerfiend
@conradcoolerfiend 4 ай бұрын
Becuase pex has a smaller internal diameter, just run it in 3/4 around the house and tee off it to 1/2 for fixtures. That stops any low pressure issues with multiple fixtures running at the same time.
@jeffbelcher2270
@jeffbelcher2270 4 ай бұрын
And when I use pex I always use brass fittings and not plastic they are a little janky kinda feel like even worse than pvc I’m sure there strong but if it does freeze it would probably crack that fitting before it exspands in pipe enough
@rainmaker3700
@rainmaker3700 4 ай бұрын
yup, never use the plastic fittings
@michaeldemers6464
@michaeldemers6464 2 ай бұрын
I can confirm a rat chewed through a short length pex that passed through my attic going out from my house to cabana. I replaced it and put a short piece of 1" electrical armor cable over where the 3/4" pex, was not within walls. It worked fine
@TileCoach
@TileCoach 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for letting us know!
@claudiom4616
@claudiom4616 4 ай бұрын
Just a DIYer, but if the pipe is flexible, why the need for the 90° angle? Could the pipe just get a gentle curve to turn the 90? Seems like there's plenty of room. Wouldn't that eliminate a potential point of failure? Thanks!
@jonathansage2147
@jonathansage2147 4 ай бұрын
Yes
@AlecGrinage
@AlecGrinage 4 ай бұрын
Just installed a new delta multichoice valve and tub/shower rough in with pex. Did a pressure test and no leaks anywhere. However I'm getting a drip from the tub spout itself. Tried changing out the cartridge and it's no better. Any ideas?
@rainmaker3700
@rainmaker3700 4 ай бұрын
I had this problem, the valve body had to be replaced in my case. The brass was not cast properly.
@TheBshackelford1
@TheBshackelford1 4 ай бұрын
tip for anyone. flush the hot/cold before you connect any valves to copper or pex. when you turn the main water off and on, debris might become dislodged and flow right into a valve causing damage to the cartridge or into the flow restrictor. standard practice for me now. Cant wait to hear all the that's what you should have been doing lol
@howardemerson457
@howardemerson457 4 ай бұрын
I believe that at the point of this video the cartridge is not yet installed, and the instructions (I have the same system) make it clear to run the water first before installing the cartridge. Always a good reminder in any event!
@FixthisCD
@FixthisCD 4 ай бұрын
I have been reading different articles of pex A failures at connections due to chlorine
@BrandonW23
@BrandonW23 4 ай бұрын
I know copper doesn't do well with chlorine. Not sure about pex a. You may be right.
@FixthisCD
@FixthisCD 4 ай бұрын
@@BrandonW23 search 'pex A chlorine cracking'. I guess just filter it out and be good
@TileCoach
@TileCoach 4 ай бұрын
I believe they traced the cause of the copper leaks in this city to chlorine. And not enough acid in the water making it too high ph
@shan4292
@shan4292 4 ай бұрын
There’s 2 grades of copper pipe, sometimes referred to as red or blue. Blue has a thicker wall. A bit more expensive. Worth it from the homeowner’s perspective. As for pex and rats. Just search KZfaq. It’s probably good faith/due diligence to look into it if deciding to comment.
@Astros-dz4bx
@Astros-dz4bx 4 ай бұрын
do you charge more or less for PEX versus copper installations for labor?
@billpulido
@billpulido 4 ай бұрын
Pex is a cheaper and a easier way of doing plumbing. The cost should be less. About 70% less vs copper.
@austinc8176
@austinc8176 4 ай бұрын
I’d like to add that transitioning to pex through the attic is a great permanent solution to slab leaks
@PRodgers-ki8cl
@PRodgers-ki8cl 4 ай бұрын
I did that on my house as well. It worked great!
@gdglock
@gdglock 3 ай бұрын
Why not use sweeps instead of 90s ? Two less connections. If space prohibits the sweeps, brass 90s are more reliable than the plastic. Especially in a concealed location?
@kristineolver3268
@kristineolver3268 4 ай бұрын
What is the ID of the PEX connections? They look so little it seems like it would really restrict the flow
@lightblade543
@lightblade543 3 ай бұрын
Pex A (as used here in the video)1/2" hose uses fittings that are full 1/2" id to match the hose. Hence the need to expand the ends to fit the larger OD of the fittings. Pex b is the opposite, the fittings slip in and crimp on and have smaller ID's in the fittings than hose ID. In short Pex A no ID change, no loss. Pex B some loss from fittings, but in practice this is not a problem as pex b is often retrofit so only used at the end device and not on main supply branches around the house. Your device limits flow be it mixing valve, shower head, faucet filter etc so the slight loss of flow right before the device is not perceived.
@j.l.strasner1475
@j.l.strasner1475 4 ай бұрын
As a licensed tile contractor in state of california how are you doing plumbing when it states it illegal for a lic tile contractors to install any plumbing unless you have a B lic
@TileCoach
@TileCoach 4 ай бұрын
CSLB #827397 Gen B,C-54
@phillipkirby502
@phillipkirby502 4 ай бұрын
Pex A or Pex B will both bend in a long sweep 90° angle. My point being that you could save 1 fitting and 2 rings for when you must have them. This is better because you don't restrict the water flow with a 3/8" ID fittings in a 1/2" OD pipe. So bending pex A or pex B in a long sweep 90° then connecting the pipe directly to the valve is best when possible. Make sure to close at least one valve back off to prevent hot cold cross over.
@BOHICA_
@BOHICA_ 4 ай бұрын
PEX B has more restrictions in the fittings. PEX A is full port.
@phillipkirby502
@phillipkirby502 4 ай бұрын
@@BOHICA_ Correct.
@BOHICA_
@BOHICA_ 4 ай бұрын
@@phillipkirby502 weird cuz your previous comment you say PexB is better of less restriction.
@phillipkirby502
@phillipkirby502 4 ай бұрын
@@BOHICA_ I'll fix it real quick.
@phillipkirby502
@phillipkirby502 4 ай бұрын
@@BOHICA_ Better?
@thoughtful_home
@thoughtful_home 4 ай бұрын
Yes PEX 💪🏻
@Dan_A_86
@Dan_A_86 4 ай бұрын
I wish I can do the Pex in Chicago area. It is very easy to do, cheap and working is very fast not like copper. What is better I don’t know but copper this days are expensive.
@travisk5589
@travisk5589 4 ай бұрын
Yo Isaac. Wheres the theadlamp? Is that one of the drop ears I gave you? ;) So 2 things. I have seen rats chew through pex first hand. My buddy had a house in west sac that rats had gotten in through the a roof vent and chewed on a pipe. The reason why they chew through the pipe is unknown to me but I have heard theories. One is that the rats are thirsty from rat poison and are looking for water but poison wasn't used at my friends house. Another is that I think the red/blue pipes look fun to chew on, right? So my buddy and I had just fixed 3 leaks in his ceiling and we had the water turned back on, went to lunch and came back to hang sheet rock. Sure enough as we were hangin the rock we heard another leak, we fixed that one, and then another. He said f it and called an experminater and dealt with all the rats, 4 in total prior to fixing the pipes and sheet rock. But i still wouldn't hesitate using pex in my house. AS for folsom, I have fixed a half dozen leakes in folsom and gotten 2 complete bathrooms remodel's from them. I went to the folsom city hall meeting about 2 years ago with a customer and the officials spun the leaks as kind of good news. They said that they had been over cleaning "using too much whatever" on accident. They said that folsom lake water was much cleaner than initially thought and that they didn't need to use some much chlorine in the water. They never took the blame but its going to be an ongoing problem. Speaking of which. THe city also said no more homes were to be built about ten years ago due to the lack of water storage but then mysteriously found a flaw in the math and allowed those few hundred thousand homes to be built. Hmmm.
@TileCoach
@TileCoach 4 ай бұрын
This footage was before you dropped off the goodies, but yes that drop ear is the same ones you gave me. Those are pricey! Thank you very much. Sounds like typical government incompetence. No one will lose a job or a drop in salary so what does it matter to them? And if they do a good job, it doesn’t matter either. Nothing changed. Same salary. We have a roundabout in Roseville on Washington Blvd that has taken a year and half to build and they aren’t even done yet. Same one that is on Pacific st that took the city of Rocklin 3 months to complete.
@iilijah
@iilijah 4 ай бұрын
First off we are in the same county( Elk Grove here), so I’m familiar with the copper issue in Folsom. Pex is good so I won’t knock it in any way. But I will say copper has anti bacterial properties and pex doesn’t. But this is more important to those on wells. Truth be told a lot of Folsom pins hole issues I came across with was poor installs. To much solder on the joints and not reaming cut pipes. At one time there was a reason apprenticeships were necessity. But alas who wants to pay for that(scartastic remark).
@travisk5589
@travisk5589 4 ай бұрын
The pin holes that I found in folsom were in straight runs no less than 3 feet from a coupler or a 90.
@iilijah
@iilijah 4 ай бұрын
@@travisk5589 the poor work manship in said cases does result in this problem exactly. As 2-4 feet away from a bad joint, is where the swirling water erodes and causes the damaged pipes. I’m not saying it is the only reason for said problems. But was the main reason for the most that I have seen.
@jonathonfrederick2062
@jonathonfrederick2062 4 ай бұрын
"copper pipes are failing!!!" *recommends shark bite adapters
@JeremyBell
@JeremyBell 4 ай бұрын
Like he said, everything has a lifespan, including copper pipes. Just look at the water pipes in any old house. "Just treat the water dummy!" Ya 99.9% of people aren't going to do that so keep dreaming. I have 10 year old Uponer pipes that run a highly chlorinated solution through them and have had zero failures in the pipes. I've cut one open and there's yellowing inside the pex pipe, but not sure if that indicates any potential failure. This is worst case scenario for Pex and it's lasting 10 years of high volume chlorinated water. One potential user error is contractors leaving PEX pipe outside on the job site and the sun degrading the pipe before it's installed. That's one theory for failure.
@redx11x
@redx11x 4 ай бұрын
Ten years is nothing
@h2s142
@h2s142 4 ай бұрын
Rats are a different problem not related to pipe type. A rat could chew through a copper pipe if it wanted.
@billpulido
@billpulido 4 ай бұрын
@h2s142 Copper is a natural repellent to rodents. They are highly sensitive to the odor and taste, making it an excellent deterrent for keeping them away. Pex can leach different types of chemicals into the water. Those chemicals can also cause bacteria. I also remember reading an article on how rats like the ingredients in pex. Some plumber told me they got rid of that ingredient that rats like to eat. The problem with that is, there's like 66 different types of pex brands, and I can't find anything on what he said online.
@ra4yu
@ra4yu 4 ай бұрын
Plastic piping isnt allowed outside here in australia because the sun deteriorates it. Might seem like a far off thing, but ive seen temporary lines run on construction sites that look like crap after a few months in the sun with that brittle and discolored look.
@R900DZ
@R900DZ 4 ай бұрын
PEX is great but not rated for sun exposure here in the US either. When I repiped my house I used copper from the street to the house and then within a few feet of entering the crawlspace I switched to the PEX for the rest of it because no UV under the house and inside the walls. That was 3 years ago and zero issues. I love PEX A!
@sonofthunder.
@sonofthunder. 4 ай бұрын
Hey isaac
@TileCoach
@TileCoach 4 ай бұрын
Hey!
@fitter1972
@fitter1972 4 ай бұрын
Pipefitter here. Nothing better than copper. Treat your water if it's eating through your pipes, and maybe install type L instead of M. That being said, Uponor PEX is pretty effective and doesn't require a huge skill set to use so it's great for DIY.
@bluearcherx
@bluearcherx 4 ай бұрын
your income depends on copper, so of course you'll say that
@TileCoach
@TileCoach 4 ай бұрын
Good to hear from a plumber. Thank you
@henryhenry271
@henryhenry271 4 ай бұрын
putting tension on those joints but putting too much pipe will make them fail over time. just get copper press tool. same amount of time.
@BrandonW23
@BrandonW23 4 ай бұрын
NEVER put Sharkbite behind walls, ever! Many plumbers have told me they leak and I have seen it myself in my own house. Beyond that, they severely limit water flow. They are GREAT to cap pipes while in the construction phase though. Easy on, easy off. Pex uponor (the stuff you're using) is great because it does not limit water flow as bad as Sharkbite. I hope pex pans out long term, but I do love copper! It's art!
@zach9538
@zach9538 4 ай бұрын
Pipes fail when soldered as well, I know because it happened to me. Sharkbite has been behind the wall for 4 years, I’ll let you know if it fails.
@TileCoach
@TileCoach 4 ай бұрын
Thats what we use them for, capping lines temporarily. But I know some very good plumbers who swear by them as permanent fittings.
@JB-yq9bn
@JB-yq9bn 4 ай бұрын
​@@zach9538thei differences is copper is in 250 million homes and you know of a few issues, plastic has a long history of risks found out after the fact or worse yet intentionally hidden.
@billpulido
@billpulido 4 ай бұрын
It could last 50 years but the problem is rats
@remodz6385
@remodz6385 4 ай бұрын
I’ve installed 1000s of sharkbites over the past 15yrs. I’ve never had one just randomly leak days,weeks,years after install. I’ve installed some that didn’t seat correctly, but that’s almost always user error and you see it immediately. I get calls to come fix leaks every day and sometimes sharkbites are the best and easiest answer. I trust them just as much as a solder joint, a crimp and cinch ring or a Pex A joint. The “stories” of sharkbites leaking are either made up or simple diy user error.
@butterfury
@butterfury 4 ай бұрын
how do u take it off?
@R900DZ
@R900DZ 4 ай бұрын
Very carefully 😉
@user-ll1pe5wb7d
@user-ll1pe5wb7d 4 ай бұрын
Hello. What state are you from. Hire me for a couple of month so I can do what you do... I do have experience but need to improve it
@dodgeman4046
@dodgeman4046 4 ай бұрын
I'm a plumber in the Sacramento area I've fixed some of those pinholes. I have seen rats chew pex but its rare in my experience and with the issues in folsom pex a is what I would use
@jeffbelcher2270
@jeffbelcher2270 4 ай бұрын
Here in Napa ca I have seen a rat actually a few cases of them chewing thru the pipe but it’s only the hot because they feel the warmth of the water and end up nesting next to it and they will chew it not always but I think they do it as there building a nesting spot so I always suggest if it’s in a known rat area or you have a lot of them due to being in the wooded area to run copper because they only chew a hole it until it’s leaking then they are like oh crap water is spraying out later and a lot of times it’s such a small spray that it takes awhile to find it out and by that time there’s substantial damage to the surrounding are in the two cases I’ve seen anyways
@TileCoach
@TileCoach 4 ай бұрын
Interesting. Makes sense.
@jeffbelcher2270
@jeffbelcher2270 4 ай бұрын
Love your knowledge
@ragingrevenge1
@ragingrevenge1 4 ай бұрын
I have that tool and use pex A all the time. This saves a ton of time. Its way faster than sweating copper. I would never use shark bites, I have seen them leak too many times. Definitely not a fitting I would trust in a wall cavity
@TileCoach
@TileCoach 4 ай бұрын
I agree.
@min2oly
@min2oly 4 ай бұрын
Why all the elbows??? just bend it, with one of those 90 bender thingy's...
@cfomusic73
@cfomusic73 4 ай бұрын
Hopefully you closed those stops before you left. If not you probably got a call from your customer saying they didn't have hot water. Gotta put that cartridge in.
@aredditor4272
@aredditor4272 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely rodents can and do chew through pex, but also just about anything. I never thought it could be an issue, but then I encountered it in a building in Mojave Ca.
@TheMrawsome64
@TheMrawsome64 4 ай бұрын
I think they added a lil “something” to the drinking water supply if you catch my drift 🙄
@raydoactive
@raydoactive 4 ай бұрын
Near Folsom Prison 🎶
@lagg-alot8308
@lagg-alot8308 4 ай бұрын
LOL! Yeah put shark bites behind a tile wall. And when it leaks?
@riccochet704
@riccochet704 4 ай бұрын
I have irrigation systems with sharkbite's on the double check flowback preventer that have been in place, outside, for almost 20 years and they don't leak. Same with buried main connections. You know why they leak? Improper installation. People don't prep the pipe properly before installing them. Meaning they don't deburr and chamfer the outside edge which causes it to cut the o-rings.
@Barrsa1
@Barrsa1 4 ай бұрын
You have to give 29 mins for the pex a to shrink again
@daviddriscoll88
@daviddriscoll88 4 ай бұрын
California is definitely doing things backwards. You need to pass a trades exam to be a tile and mosaic contractor but only need a contractors license to do plumbing. One seems a bit more crucial than the other
@ryanperry9838
@ryanperry9838 4 ай бұрын
Sharkbite and pex b imo is similar to a contractor pulling out Ryobi tools, I lose all respect for them instantly soon as they pull that crap out.
@rogerclaiborne6815
@rogerclaiborne6815 4 ай бұрын
Only licensed plumbers can install plumping here in Florida so I leave plumbing and responsibility for leak to the plumbers. Us Florida Tile Sub-Contractors are only allowed to do everything else that relates to the tile installation. Customer has to call a plumber and once he's done I come in and do the rest.
@TileCoach
@TileCoach 4 ай бұрын
I have a general contractors license in CA, so I can do all scopes of work...just not individually. I can not do a plumbing only job. I have to do at least 3 trades in the scope of the remodel. In this case, plumbing, drywall, and tile.
@michaelostapovitch5262
@michaelostapovitch5262 4 ай бұрын
I would never use that pex inside a wall, never.
@ilikerealmaplesyrup
@ilikerealmaplesyrup 4 ай бұрын
I think I would only use pex on exterior walls and osf's. Maybe shower fittings but not my drinking water.
@TileCoach
@TileCoach 4 ай бұрын
Ya they might come out with a study someday that its bad for you.
@bobbillock879
@bobbillock879 4 ай бұрын
Seen rats chew pex here in Nevada City
@apex007
@apex007 4 ай бұрын
First hand saw rat chew through pex pipe
@TileCoach
@TileCoach 4 ай бұрын
Thats why the internet is great. You find out a lot of things from real people that you otherwise wouldn't. Thank you
@paulbeam4499
@paulbeam4499 4 ай бұрын
When it comes to pipe diameter Pex-A is better than Pex-B because the connectors are not narrower than the pipe. so you maintain your flow rather than chocking it down.
@michaelostapovitch5262
@michaelostapovitch5262 4 ай бұрын
Copper is healthy plastic is full of nanoparticles
@matthewsaltzman5573
@matthewsaltzman5573 4 ай бұрын
Over the last 10 years I've only came across two instances of rodents chewing holes in pex. So it definitely can happen, but it's the same chances of getting efficient and honest government.
@kristineolver3268
@kristineolver3268 4 ай бұрын
Rats can chew through pex but they can chew through cast iron so I'd think they can chew any water line regardless of what its made of
@Danmc-li3pg
@Danmc-li3pg 4 ай бұрын
No way pex is better than soldered copper. The plastic and chemicals will be in your drinking water someday
@jeffreyplumber1975
@jeffreyplumber1975 3 ай бұрын
Ive repaired pex chewed by rats, pvc condensates , and abs drain pipe also rats naw on stuff including plastic pipe since ive experianced it Its fact to me.
@Obshowersyndicate
@Obshowersyndicate 4 ай бұрын
He cant plumb He can't fit But the porta potty man sure knows his shit
@Rambo88568
@Rambo88568 4 ай бұрын
I'll stick with copper
@paintball130
@paintball130 4 ай бұрын
bet you they said the same thing about poly-b when they were using it way back when... pex is great for the installer because its cheap, fast, and lazy... not the homeowner
@m4a1JAY
@m4a1JAY 4 ай бұрын
Copper pipes in a 50 year old house is still going strong. Cut some out and they are still in good condition. PEX will fail in 10-15 years or less. Depending on where you live maybe 20. Look up the company making PEX A pipe class action lawsuit, they stopped making color PEX A.
@decentralized483
@decentralized483 4 ай бұрын
Pex is failing in southern Utah
@TileCoach
@TileCoach 4 ай бұрын
A or B? Kitec is different, if that is waht you are referring to.
@thatguy8005
@thatguy8005 4 ай бұрын
Copper failing?… not possible.
@squiertelecaster6854
@squiertelecaster6854 4 ай бұрын
If you think plastic is better than copper, you are not a Viking.
@hagakuru
@hagakuru 4 ай бұрын
Pex is fine UNTIL you have a pack of hungry mice in your walls. Then it's downhill from there!
@billpulido
@billpulido 4 ай бұрын
Only problem with pex, rats chew through it. If the home owners wants the pipes to last 50-100 years, tell them to install type L copper piping. Never install type M.
@charliegodinez9655
@charliegodinez9655 4 ай бұрын
Don’t let this Tile guy fool you. Use L copper and you’ll be fine for 60 yrs
@atcdude067
@atcdude067 4 ай бұрын
“I use pipe thread tape and sealant “ So you don’t trust the process. Trash. Trash. Trash.
@atcdude067
@atcdude067 4 ай бұрын
Pex is trash. Copper is far superior - you just don’t wanna sweat pipes lol.
@Resist_JWO_1984
@Resist_JWO_1984 4 ай бұрын
Clickbait title👎. The reason copper pipes fail/leak is that whoever brazed them did a 💩 job.
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