Twin perfect did some great videos on BvS

You should also mention reel analysis' videos on bvs too, they are very insightful and i think hes going to make a big video on bvs when jl comes out.

Twin Perfect made the best defense of BvS and MoS

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Good choices, especially Twin Perfect’s ones

Because it's not his KZfaq name and people know him as Cosmonaut Variety Hour. So people might not know who Marcus is if you don't specify his Channel's name.

unconfirmed alias

@@kindaokayname2691 why would marcus be a fake name? 😭😭

Cause it’s funneh.

Lmaoo this whole thing cracks me up

And a lot them were. Look how divisive he was in that movie.

"War criminal" or not, I don't think the people being saved by Superman would really care. At that moment, they're just trying not to drown or burn to death.

What 😂 the whole world would have been destroyed mate

Yeah maybe they were, but then they also see Superman save lives that would've been lost without him, he perform feats that no human could do to save lives. Don't you think that would change people's mind or at least reconsider their opinion about him. There is literally a montage of him performing the impossible all the while saving lives. And also don't you think it is likely that people saw Superman as someone who stopped aliens from destroying their world and terraforming it into a planet where humans can't survive.

Well the problem marcus had is that the Snyder interpretation of the characters were flawed and that is were most of his criticism comes with. Maybe if these characters weren't dc it could make sense, but the problem is Snyder doesn't do dc justice. Marcus just doesn't like man of steel or bvs from the start. However some of these problems seem to be fixed in the Snyder cut of justice league and shows the potential that could've been with the Snyder verse.

Exactly. Yes Superman is just learning to be his main self, but there are things that he has always inherently been. He has always been nice and he wouldn’t do something petty like destroy a dude’s truck. Would he get mad and emotional? Yes, but he wouldn’t go that far because he knows that’s wrong. Saying he’s learning to be better is not an excuse for bad characterisation

@@pennyomega7421 both of you are just proving the movie right.

@@Spiderstan2000 because superman did things he would never do? lmaooo you're dumber than Tex

Proof?

@@footballskillshd7121 The fucking movie

@@coolwolf5425 when people don't understand they hate it.

@@footballskillshd7121 Exactly, Zack doesnt understand it, I dont hate it I dislike it.

@@coolwolf5425 Bro you should go back to the primary school.

Thank you, I completely agree.

Yes exactly thank you!

The guy who made this review was incredibly biased lol, you can tell when someone’s just a fanboy and the 6 year old in them got offended that you said their favorite superhero movie is ass. Terrible set up and pacing in this film. Wonder Woman was the only half-good DC title from the current existing series

All of that is false and it did NOT miss any point of his critique. He WAS saying MOS is objectively bad because it’s long

No it IS justified and his point WAS that the destruction didn’t make sense and he wasn’t saying the length isn’t justified and the plot and the development of t he film isn’t bad

Ik they're cancer

Did you see his new Harry Potter review that was awesome

Have seen the comments on his video? The amount of ridicule DC fans get from marvel fanboys or miserable people like Marcus have it way worse, I still remember the amount of memes DC was getting after infinity war came out and still is very much upsetting.

Honestly, I find Cosmonaut to be a toxic personality, who ruthlessly bashes and insults anyone who likes something that he doesn’t.

@@gbrogo7139 he says multiple times that everyone has their opinion and these are his opinions and point out how dumb the movies are from his perspective and its not like he would harass you for having a different opinion.🤦‍♀️

I mean Zod is the man who killed Kal’s bio dad so I’d imagine there’d be a little more emotion and care. Maybe even banter about how Zod viewed Zor-el

He saved the world, a planet he's so emotionally invested in protecting that he calls it home despite being outmatched in terms of skill and experience. He was fighting for his life as well as those around him. Is the world not enough?

oh yeah, saving the goddamn world or showing those daily bugle employees being saved emotionally isn't enough. Smh just ignore Zod and let him chill rq and save some kids like what.

@@KazukiVA The Battle against Zod didn't need to last over an hour, they could have had Superman doing other hero stuff *before* Zod arrived

@@panpan1287 I mean sure if he wasn’t too busy being fucking captured. And there already is a scene of him doing hero shit, y’know when he saved that pilot, the kids on the bus, the tornado, and the oil rig? Theres fucking plenty, theres just no pleasing you people

That is such a neat little touch. Not only shows the conflicting views but how Cosmonaut > Tex interms of subscribers and views like Superman > Bats in terms of power. Not saying one is better than the other though.

@@dr.boring7022 but in terms of intelligence, yk where I’m getting at… Jkjkjk

@@dosomestuff1949 lmao

Its quaint when murderers fight

We as a population politicize every fucking thing. Just look at the hateful discourse online over the pandemic with social distancing and mask wearing. Or the fact that in this modern society most Americans actually hate immigrants and don't want other's invading "their" space. It's easy to see why a realistic take on Superman wouldn't be this happy go lucky Golden Retriever who isn't conflicted by prejudices he'd face at literally every turn.

Among us

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Replace Clark being A literal God like being with him being gay and it makes total sense why Pa Kent wanted to keep his secret hidden People be gossiping and discriminatory If they found out that this farmers son was different they'd alienate him and Pa Kent never wanted that for his boy he wanted Clark to like humans and not become the quiet kid

@@dacmshow6383 NO DONT SAT IT

Snyder is very bad at verbally expressing himself in public, he took that quote back and often takes criticism into account (his cut justice league is much less dark and gritty than b v s, he eliminated the lois x batman plotline from his plan) it's not the only one of his quotes where he says something w very colloquial language that gives the wrong his point. he was never gonna make batman get raped, in fact nothing even close to that level of brutality happens in any of his movies, they're edgy and gritty but when u think abt it nothing near that scale happens, he said (specially noticable if u read the full quote) that as a fuck u to the course marvel movies (and in consequence comic book movies) where taking, where nothing is consequential and anything mildly dramatic is played for jokes, and shit with how Whedon fucked jsl maybe he wasnt that wrong in wanting to make away with all that. Sadly he expressed his distaste for the marvel formula in the most brain dead way possible...

If Batman can get raped in prison, then Wonder Woman can get raped by Doomsday.

The Batman is literally a billion times edgier than Zack's films ever were lol

@@cargoshorts5666 wasn’t the point of this comment but ok

@@damnroger2739 interesting point, I could never find a video where he said that bc I wanted to have full context lol.

Marcus isn't stupid, he likely decided to ignore it.

@@Spiderstan2000 it's not that it's that he complains too much about everything he made a video all about dc and he just started kinda insulting dc

@Albert Okorogu no not that it just seems like he complains about everything in every video

@Albert Okorogu cosmonaut is pretty negative too man theirs no deny

@Albert Okorogu for me I love both dc and marvel the problem is that Marcus has a shallow mind like he complains about superman and zod fight that destroy the city. It is really stupid to think that he criticize without thinking he just complain imagine two powerful being fighting the other wants to kill him along with every lives that surrounds them, superman can't just negotiate with zod like "hey can we fight where there is will be no casualties?" Zod: "what I am mad and I want to destroy everything that is important to you what do you think about this a dragon ball?" *continues to fight* that's idiotic

It’s a poetry it rhymes

The genius on par with the one of Zack Snyder

@@Cybersnake-he4zr ~ George Lucas ?

@@VirtualVisionStudiosOfficial Fun Fact: Zack actually takes influence from George Lucas. And George A. Romero. And John Boorman. And Frank Miller. And Stanley Kubrick.

@@greasycheese9050 What? No! I was just stating who he takes influence from or was inspired by. Every director has multiple inspirations. If you don't like his movies that's fine, but don't try forcing what is YOUR own opinion on others.

@Kryptoskillet Apokolips War sucked

@Kryptoskillet bruh apocalypse war wasn’t good

@Kryptoskillet how TF was Apokolips War good???? It kills off characters just for shock value, in the universe they spent 8 years building up

The point of CinemaSins is to be bitchy and annoying. It’s mainly satirical

@Kryptoskillet I mean yea that’s the point, I doubt he’s truly serious about those nitpicks. It’s not like he’s doing ya know a genuine critic like Mauler or something, it’s entirely based around nitpicks, which leads me to believe that it has to be not very serious

It’s just a different take on Batman lol. This would definitely be a bigger deal if they were straight up adapting a comic but they’re not. This is an original film by Snyder

Oh you idiot the whole point of Batman v Superman is that he shouldn’t kill

Ok, so about Batman killing in this movie: that’s the point. Batman should not be killing people. You seem to be knowledgeable about Batman, so I’m sure your familiar with Frank Miller’s The Dark Knight Returns, one of the primary influences of BvS. In TDKR (the comic version, they change it in the TDKR animated movie) Batman uses a gun to kill a member of the mutant gang who is holding a child, and then he later breaks a firearm in front of the mutant gang. This is a subplot in the comic not everyone notices, Batman’s relationship with killing. Bruce is trying to hold onto the man he used to be, including his no killing rule, and he’s gone so far into this idea that he still holds onto his no gun policy despite literally using a gun to kill somebody earlier. Later in the story, in the tunnel with Joker, Batman essentially asks “how many have I killed by letting you (Joker) live”, and then proceeds to literally break the jokers neck. While at first it appears that Batman only paralyzed the Joker and the Joker somehow snapped his own neck the rest of the way to lull himself, on closer inspection we can uncover the truth. Following Batman snapping Joker’s neck, the Joker’s text bubbles are in the same grey which Batman used in his internal monologues. Batman is so desperate to hold onto his old rules that he literally denies killing the joker, internally making a story in which the joker killed himself. Now let’s take this into BvS. The two Batman’s are very similar, both are older, angrier men who are coming off of the loss of a robin. BvS Batman has adopted a similar killing rule, where he justifies his kills through “oh, I just shot the car and it blew up, not my problem”. And then, when the moment arrives, and Batman is about to murder an innocent man, Superman calls out for his mother, and Batman has the cathartic realization that he is no better than joe chill, and that there is no way he can justify this kill. However, Batman’s character arc is not complete. Although he has backed away from outright murder, he still has no issue killing indirectly (or at least, what he considers indirect). It is not until Superman sacrifices himself to save humanity that Batman resolves his existential crisis and determines that humanity is worth fighting for that he stops this indirect killing and rediscovers his old values. In fact, the final scene on Batman is Batman NOT marking Lex Luthor, representing his symbolic rejection of the indirect killing and the ways he justified it. So yes, Batman should not kill, unless the movie is about why Batman should not kill, as this movie is. Is it hard to see Batman this way? Yes. It is. But that does not make it bad. In fact, it’s this struggle which I find so inspiring about the movie. Like Batman, we all fail. We all abandon what makes us who we are and what we fight for. However, despite our failures, our losses, and our mistakes, we can redeem ourselves and fight to make the world a better place.

@@BerserkHaris Ok, do not call me or anyone you don’t even know an idiot simply for a take on a movie. It sucks, and definitely makes YOU look like an idiot.

@@jbone3606 and @Bus Guys… I get all of that, but there’s a problem. A couple of them, actually. The first is that, as I said, you can’t make Batman kill on a regular basis without him going insane immediately afterwards. That’s just who he is. In the Injustice issue where Superman dreams about how Batman could’ve killed the Joker, Batman does in fact do just that, but then he IMMEDIATELY turns himself in. Why? Because he knows he has to secure himself before the thought of killing again even reaches the backdoor of his mind. He’s nuts, guys, and he knows it. That’s the point. I’m sure you all know the “if I go down into that place” speech from Under the Red Hood. And even in Miller’s case: I like your take on the Joker neck breaking thing, but even in such a scenario, the fact would be that Batman distorted his own perception of reality to “cover up” this ONE (arguably justified) murder. He did it, but in his mind he didn’t. That means Miller is aware of the no kill rule and how important it is for Bruce’s character, so he’s breaking it in a smart way that doesn’t break the character as a result. In a way that makes Bruce kill (ONCE) but also not lose his respect for the sanctity of life (not to mention his respect for his own already quite messy mental health). The point with Snyder is that he doesn’t make Batman’s killings a plot point. He doesn’t seem to think it’s even important. Try and watch the movie a bit more carefully, and listen to the interviews. The branding is a plot point, which gets referenced in the “fever” speech in the Cave and in the final scene with Luthor. But the killing is not. The point of the movie is not that Batman should never kill, it is that he should never be cruel. There’s a difference. When asked why his Batman kills, Zack did not use the argument you used with me up here. He did not say “it’s his arc” (which still wouldn’t have justified it, because again, this Bruce kills on a regular basis and yet has not turned into a Batman who Laughs-ish psycho: things don’t add up). He simply made excuses and tried to justify it as indirect killing, thus implicitly stating that he did want to make him kill, but he also didn’t want to piss off the fans too much, so he made it indirect. I mean, look at his other heroes. Superman pushes a guy through four brick walls. Aquaman impales an enemy from behind. Wonder Woman turns the bank terrorists’ brains into jelly, not to mention she does the same to Roose Bolton’s entire body. Zack makes his heroes kill because, in his worldview, it wouldn’t be believable if they didn’t. And I can even excuse it in many cases, I can get behind the fact that he mostly makes it for the rule of cool. But not in Batman’s case. So yeah, that’s pretty much it. And it seems quite evident to me by simply listening to him when he talks about it. Have you ever heard his “wake the f**k up, you think your heroes never lied to America” rant? He wants to be realistic, and he thinks that, if superheroes - even the kindest ones - actually existed in the real world, they would kill. Plain and simple.

Saying that a group of thousands of people collectively can't take criticism is really stupid.

Liking something and defending it aren’t the same as not being able to take criticism. Maybe if Snyder’s haters weren’t so vocal about their absolute disgust for the man his fans wouldn’t have to do ardently defend him. YOU not liking something doesn’t make it bad. Lots of people not liking something doesn’t make it bad. Why is alright to make entire videos on why Snyder sucks is okay but a video on why someone likes him enrages you so? It seems you all can’t take criticism either.

@@BuckyKattGetFuzzy Cosmonaut's video was not about why Snyder sucks, it was about why BvS sucks. You're talking about the people that attack Snyder. You can go argue with them because I didn't say anything bad about Snyder, just his movies. Do you realize what video you just watched? It's about a guy criticizing another guy claiming that he didn't understand Snyder's movie.

@@mvelo6331 That’s because Cosmo is wrong, Zack does understand, he’s simply making an interpretation that no one has seen before while also borrowing from other sources. People have a right to defend a creator and their work. I would only problem with a defense of someone if that person has something absolutely or criminal, but Zack Snyder has done neither of those things, he just wanted to make a Superman and Batman that are building towards the ones knew for decades. Cosmonaut has done is misrepresent his work and slandered the creator without any evidence and the evidence he has is flimsy. So no, this is not Snyder fans not taking criticism.

@EdittZz it does not!

It's also a stupid hyperbole. Not even a tenth of one city was destroyed. If that counts as the apocalypse then the Chitauri attack also counts as the apocalypse. And that's dumb

That was my first thought... It IS the end of the world

@@theawesomebat1244 And in Infinity war half the universe got in literal apocalypse because of Star Lord losing his shit and Thor putting his needs for revenge over his duty. No one complained about the Russos not liking those characters then

@@theawesomebat1244 Well memes are always welcome. I don't mind the Martha memes that much or the Batffleck f bomb memes. But there's a difference between memeing something and hating on a director for that point to the point of creating faux political narratives against them The only other time I've seen a director getting bullied from the internet in such a way, was when George Lucas made the phantom menace

@@theawesomebat1244 Yeah because obviously a freaking Groot series has more artistic integrity than a 4 hour Justice League epic 🙄🙄 Seriously I might be in the minority here but the Investor day announcements really disappointed me because fantastic 4 aside, they confirmed what I feared. That the MCU is selling out now that the infinity saga is over, prioritizing quantity over quality and sacrificing the relative artistic integrity of previous stories to get steady Disney+ subscriptions

That was actually John Byrne. He wrote The Price, not Dan Jurgens. I was under the same misasumption, until I made my own Man of Steel video comparing it to Superman(1978) and needed to use The Price to make a point about Zod's death.

@@Pikashades was it? My mistake

Dan Jurgens is more known to be the man who killed Superman in the comics, wich Snyder adapted in BvS

@@ivanagustinortiz5237 My bad, that’s an honest mistake, I’ll fix that now

@@michael.471 Don't worry about it man, happy to help

That was the point of the movie, after 20yrs in Gotham he has failed, he has lived long enough to become the villain, but not long enough to realise it yet, he’s still in denial. By seeing a Batman that breaks his rule, we see why it’s so important, rather than just telling us why. In the end he regains his faith in humanity and promises to redeem himself. It honestly doesn’t get more hopeful than that.

I thought the movie portrayed Batman as more of a villain because while it shows Batman killing, I think its intention is to show that Batman killing is bad. Like this is something he isn't supposed to do.

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how does this make sense

What?

@@jul4732 ong

Do you mean bath? I think he means bath

all of these clowns saying superman made mistakes hes a newbie should wash their brains .every mistake he made was on him .tex the stupid clown just manipulating these kids lol. he chose to go to the south Indian ocean world engine instead of flying through the metropolis one before everything happened ,he chose to laser those unborn krypton kids and take down that ship middle of the city causing more building to crash and die ,he chose to phantom zoned all of his krypton ppl and he then cried like bih for zod like he didn't laser the only hope he had with his world .what he gonna do with zod ? did they knew ? no. that's so bad writing .he's a war criminal in this movie like snyder the amateur promised us before making the movie .he got a shitty advice form a 45 yr old grown ass man that maybe u shouldnt save ppl instead of" no son always save ppl always help those who need but be more careful with the identity first "yep that's how a grown ass man should have talked to his son .

Faxx

How so?

Yep

@@claytonveno3710 Like the point Marcus makes about John Kent saying "yes" to letting the kids die. Marcus's point wasn't that John actually said that he should've let the kids die it's that John even entertained the idea which is completely against how John Kent was in the comics. He would've never been mad at Clark for exposing himself if he was saving a bunch of kids.

Exactly

Exactly, usually exaggeration is for comedy but I think his points still stand. I think a common defense for die-hard Snyderverse fans is to say people just don't understand, but sometimes you can just not like the direction the movie went in. He's a comic fan too so I think he has a good understanding of Batman and Superman. While I wanted to like this movie, I don't think it did either character justice, no pun intended.

@@jackroberts2704 well because their characters won't finished, what do you expect. Also I don't complain or when I do complain about where the movie is headed I don't exactly go into the comment section and try to destroy anybody who do like where the characters or wear a movie is at it, I just keep to myself and say I just don't like how this s*** is ended but some people they don't know how to do that they literally hunt you down just for thinking something else.

@@LordangeloxD you may not know the characters but of you fail to fully pay attention to the story then I dont know what to do for you, you said Superman didn't do anything heroic did you seriously mis like the quarter half of Superman saving people and fyi superman wasn't the one who destroyed a big chunk of the city and what do you except from two godlike beings fighting it's going to blow up shit, I can't believe you except there fight to be light. Also superman has being compared to and shown to be like Jesus or a god like being this isn't anything new. And for Batman his gritty his old, you may think cringe but that's you to be his feared and you may not know or like this but it goes to show just how misunderstood these movies are to the point people don't even what to understand these characters further proving my point that people let these stories fly over their heads, only to come to the comment section to make themselves look stupid. And what to know why they adore him cause his saves their lives G.

Actually he went further than just exaggerating, he lazily watched the film with a bias lens and missed huge clues in the movie. Example: the smoke grenade comment he neglected to mention the grenades had the symbol "Pb" the symbol for lead... so yeah Supes cant see through lead yet markus had to comment about how dumb and useless the grenades were when in fact it was pretty clever. But markus has a vendetta against Snyder(he admits it) and it prevents him from giving his films a proper review. Love the cosmo channel but gotta keep it real. Your welcome.

@@forsparta8435 ...that really doesn't change much. Your mansplaining needs some work

Him : literally misrepresents and lie about things that actually happens. Tex : debunk those lies by showing the actual scenes. YOu, a fckin npc : bOtH aRe RIgHT

@@1theprince1 didn’t say they were both right. No one is right because everything is subjective at the end of the day. But both have points that are true objectively.

@@1theprince1 everything cosmonaut said was valid. Stop dickriding tex you dc fanboy

Nah Marcus has idiotic opinions

@@SamC_182 that’s ur opinion

That’s too straight SJWs like him would have wanted Superman and Zod to become gay lovers and then have a transgender sex change so they can have a baby with each other

When you think of every option, Superman had zero good ones. Zod placed him in a no win scenario.

You want a dance off, go watch GoTG

@@roluevasreisa5730 that’s a little far buddy

@@roluevasreisa5730 What the fuck was that amalgamation of literary diarrhea?! I feel fucking ill after reading that vomit of words.

he already failed, but he didn't realized

exactly, that's the whole point of his character in bvs

Again, you miss the point of the character. If he kills he no longer is Batman...he becomes a villain

@@jacobswindell1 exactly. batman is *the* villain of dawn of justice. he's not the good guy. he's failed. he's failed and abandoned all of the principles that once made him a hero. that is the entire point of the character in batman v superman. he is bruce wayne, and he dresses up like a bat and he beats up criminals at night. but he's not "batman" anymore. he's "batman" post-batman. it's a deconstruction of the character. because the fact that batman won't kill anyone isn't interesting unless you analyse what the character would be like if he did kill people.

@@jacobswindell1 yeah but I have to say that batman principles are... kind of bullshit. He puts the joker in Arkham every focking time just for Joker to get out and kill more people, being stuck into a circle of madness and infinite compasion that even the power rangers make fun of him in a crossover. But people seen to like that batman and I do too but sometimes it gets ridiculous, they dont know when Batman should stop and make him a complete idiot. That is why I like superman, he doesnt kill in a basis, he does it when he has to. And btw Im not talking about any snyder adaptation or anything, just the characters in general.

Batman lost his way. He's about to kill Clark, Clark says Martha, Batman then realizes he doing exactly what had happened to him as a kid. He's taking away a parent from their child and vice versa. He comes to realizes he isn't any better than Clark, who was just trying to do the right thing. He realized Clark was just as human as him. And you call that a kids movie arc?? Crazy

@@josiahcruz9678 would make more sense if he hadn't killed dozens of people before and after that scene

@@lufufi3iboo before, that's just wrong. Again, he lost his way. After, he didn't kill persay, he just didn't let them kill him and they died by their own hands. For example, the grenade scene.

@@lufufi3iboo healing takes time when it comes to trauma like that.

@@josiahcruz9678 At that moment in the movie, Batman thought Superman was the greatest threat humanity faced and he let's it all go because he, conveniently, said "Save Martha"? Imagine if the Joker said that, would Batman suddenly go "Huh, maybe he isn't so bad"? The moment is a joke that doesn't make any sense whatsoever, stop defending it.

Lmao truee😂😂

But you think he would put out the fire tho at least

Dude sheds a tear and doesn't bother helping at least put out the fire 😂

@@IggyTheLighskinWonder what’s the point of putting out the fire they were all fucked anyway

@@JK-eo7eb to stop the fire from spreading as u saw there were still some ppl alive in different rooms. so yeh

Or he grew up and likes the movies now.

@@FungalumisBush he said he still hated bvs and man of steel

@@FungalumisBush he didn't liked it. He said it was meh

@@FungalumisBush Grow up? BvS was hot garbage. Mos was okay but nothing special. Hibestly some of the worst superhero movies. Catwoman level bad

@@mindfreak9674 lmao and why do you think that? They are not even close to being bad films

yes, studios interfering with director's films.

Imagine if you spelt something wrong in your paragraph and everyone kept making fun of you saying that you can't spell right. You correct yourself, your just stereotyping the film.

@@XRoyalBlueGokuX i just don't care if you're making fun of my Spelling. I am still learning the bases of the english. plus, if you care too much about how others see you, then you are good for nothing. So you're question doesn't make anysense. I just said the movie is a$$. If you're offended, just ignore me

@@the_exile8293 Looks like you care enough to respond, c'mon show me more of your toxic nature. I was setting up a metaphor. The only offended one is you. Cry about it.

@@XRoyalBlueGokuX don't care about other's opinion doesn't mean that im not allowed to respond to it. Im actually correcting a bad argument on a bad movie. So technically i didn't say anything toxic, just a diffrent point of you. That is Called argumentation

You can't have hope when you're always perfect.

@@Spiderstan2000 I like this. I'm gonna save this.

It is no surprise really. Just look at their arguments. These are people who clearly prefer to reject reality on a constant basis. If reality sips into their escapism, they lose their shit. What I find most irritating is that some of the really logical thinkers on youtube, who make their money debating people and debunking nonsense, have done the same. It just shows you a harsh reality about people: Even some of those who seem to follow logic might just create another dream-bubble for themselves that is just filled with things they deem logical. It's STILL a fake world they build for themselves. Maybe we all do that to some extent...

Holy shit you're right the airport fight sequence could have been amazing if it involved civilians

@@porassrivastava8242 and I am personally still dissapointed to Civil War because OF NO TRUE CONSEQUENCES

@@porassrivastava8242 That's because something like that happened in the beginning of the film. They learned their lesson.

Take the fight away from the city, or at least TRY, it's not hard to depict. Takes less than 30-50 sec of footage of Clark trying to take Zod elsewhere, it doesn't work, RIP Metropolis, Boom. At.least.he.tried They somehow ended up in space, you're telling me they can't go somewhere, ANYWHERE else on Earth but back into the city??? It's been done in an Superman animated film where he tries to damage control, DRAGONBALL gets this right, but MOS can't ?? Bullshit. And yes, he's learning, but that was a mook decision to write him learning while in the suit & not younger, when is when he actually should be learning. Realism+Superhero with Alien Powers = ERROR 404 Trying to apply realism to a man in spandex that can fly & shoot heat vision out his eyeballs. Ya know, because realistic. c'mon man

I hate how Anonomly Incs videos on Cosmounaut make it out to be some villain for hating the prequels

@John Smith 😂

@@IcyDiamond yeah I like his counter arguments against cvhs points but usually bashes Marcus too much.

@@tannerbauserman5757 yeah agreed he comes out a bit to aggressive unlike Tex

@John Smith just because u understand a film better doesn’t make the film better😂

It wasn't even out of character for Superman. He will and has killed powerful villains when it became clear there was just no other option. Hell, in the comics he killed Zod, Ursa, and Non in a much more cold and calculated manner. He exposed them to Kryptonite and watched them slowly succumb to Kryptonite poisoning. He also killed Doomsday and has no qualms about killing Darkseid. Superman's "no kill" rule only really applies to his human/Earth-based enemies who he can subdue and capture non-lethally in countless ways. Him killing Zod, a dangerous, rampaging force hell-bent on killing everyone on Earth doesn't violate any rule.

Because he's Superman, that's why.

The way you challenge that is by building up to it. Not by shoving it at the end of your first move, when there were so many more viable options

Except that really doesn't work becuase the film never established Clark being a pacifist before that.

@@tylerleach8796 did u just ignore the part where he has to hold back from bullies constantly ? If ur into that go watch Brightburn 😂

Hell yeah, speak your truth brother.

Exactly I know they are not good but at least I was entertained by it.

Absolutely none of his criticism is remotely validated. That’s the point. He doesn’t understand films. At all. I’ve watched his stuff and his videos are ridiculously bad.

@@alainwalker5177 in my opinion, if you are entertained by a film, you should call it good because you enjoy watching it.

@@constantinezoelayman3132 I agree, but I can still see they’re flaws, there’s plenty of movies that have a pretty bad story or bad acting but that I enjoy simply because it’s funny or entertaining. I like both mos and bvs but I know that they’re not perfect.

hi homelander how's the wife and kids

Because people with huge fanbases love destroying smaller channels just because smaller channels make better points

@@societyguyisking3032 homelander and his little "homies"

@@DivvayKhatri Yeah so to your SJW lord How’s watchmen? Hmmm ouch yeah How’s birds of prey Ooooo How’s terminator dark fate Honestly I kind of want your SJW pig lord to dislike anything because anything he dislikes is automatically a success and anything he loves always fails

@The Predator Just that anything your SJW King happens to like, always bombs It’s like I find it beautifully delicious irony

Right??? That fight was awesome

@@spuxxy284 No it wasn't. Superman wouldn't throw someone into a skyscraper killing thousands of people.

@@spuxxy284 agreed..what will you expect in a god like creature fighting ... you want logic you want physics!! dont watch fiction ..just watch drama . I love the fight scene its understandable to see how it being massive .. superman was just learning and in fact .. if I was d villain too .. who d fuck cares on that casualties .

@@MonkeyDBatman you release its the first time he fought someone with similar powers. So it actually made sense. And of course Zod made it a lot harder for him to keep it to a minimum.

@@spuxxy284 And? So fucking what if it's the 1st time he fought someone like zod? He still consciously threw him into populated buildings.

Yeah but he says in one of his DC videos that no live action movie has been accurate to Superman

in avengers Loki brought the fight to new york, and in avengers 2 captain america cw dealt with the destruction of Sokovia. in man of steel superman brings the fight to metropolis and smashes zod into buildings full of people

@@felipe3724 hack snyder ruined DC

@@herloss448ok first off. Those destruction scenes were from previous movies. It showed Loki and the Chitari annihilating NYC, it shows Washington DC getting Destroyed, it shows Sokovia getting lifted out of the ground and crashing back down to earth, and it shows the Lagos scene where scarlet witch accidentally blew up the hospital. You marvel haters were hating on marvel movies because they were causing property damage, yet when a movie addresses it, you call it dumb. Also, everyone knew who The Winter Soldier was at this time, and if you see the Winter Soldier leaving a UN bombing, your gonna be suspicious. I know Civil War is far from perfect but stop hating on it just to hate on it.

eh, that one was only in a diner and he paid for the damages therefore he knows he is accountable for that. unlike in MoS he doesn't feel any remorse for the damage he and Zod caused. Also, you guys got to. learn the difference between revenge and teaching a jerk his/her lesson.

Noooooo bro dont rewatch josstice league we should erase that ''movie'' from our memory.Wait for the big treat coming at March instead

Don't rewatch Josstice League

@@nikolakys4185 If its too painful I might just skip to Aquaman

@@idawg7332 yup that should do it

nooo don't rewatch Josstice League, worst mistake of my life.

I dont think he wants to callout Christopher Nolan who is the real screenwriter. Nolan gets a bunch of praise, but Snyder gets shit on and blamed for Man Of Steel

I think Marcus is Critiquing the way that Zach Synder portrayed Superman which he felt to be inaccurate, which is very controversial topic in the superhero fandom

@@josay3394 Nolan didn't want superman to kill zod......Snyder did

@@Zynirel how did Snyder want Superman to kill?

@@Spiderstan2000 he eliminate every opinion for beat zod without killing him, the original script was for zod to be suck with the phantom zone with faora after fighting them, but Snyder want superman to kill, so it's like a no victory thing

Both Chris Terrio the screenwriter and Zack Snyder hated the title because they knew, like you said, it sent the wrong impression. Terrio saw it as just a shallow marketing ploy to get people in the theaters not aware of the kind of story they were getting. But WB was dead-set on the title and refused to change it.

@@Syryu That makes sense

I’ve been saying that since it came out. Maybe if it was called “Man of steel: Dawn of justice”, or even just “Dawn of justice” it would’ve been received better. The fight would’ve been cooler too if they kept it a secret in the marketing.

I agree. The title put me off watching the film for a long time as it just sounded like a crappy corporate cash grab, and misadvertised what the film was really about.

There’s actual fight choreography in the MCU

@@benkenobi3964 doesn't feel like that, except maybe the captain America movies, those are pretty dope. One of the few things where DCEU exceeds MCU by far, are the action sequences imo.

@@benkenobi3964 warehouse scene

Look. I’m sick and tired of people calling the cosmonaut a mcu fanboy were he really isn’t. He doesn’t even love the mcu that much. He even used to think all of the mcu films are the “same.” So honestly, grow the hell up.

@@OGsubway pft- there a reason you replied to this comment specifically when pretty much the entire comments section is dunking on him for being silly? Didjya just pick one at random?

facts

I didn't see anyone close around for him to ask politely. Besides this is a new Superman version. One that only hardcore Superman fans enjoy.

@@danielkeller1337 so u like it when a director spits in the face of a character you adore? fair point ig

@Daniel Keller. It’s called knocking on the door

@@colonelstarsandstripes5379 He was in a hurry and had no time to ask.

He like all the stupid films and hate good films.

@@JacksonBlade144 tex

@@raz2832 No. It’s CVH.

@@HUMAN-fq5ff sorry

@Micolash iam a marvel fan captian marvel is the worst movie but others were good i dont know why tex saying others were bad like it have a great story than most of the dc film

Well cause of Cosmonauts saying that marvel movies tend to focus on characters that make tex feel that half of the marvel films are bland not to say the characters are bland but if you just focus on the characters and the plot as a secondary problem then I guess is bland

sorry if I type too much btw I'm really sorry

@@mist3257 Yeah judging iron man 3 on just it’s plot, it falls flat. And while plot is usually important in movies, these movies still end up being pretty fun.

@@EdricChang but terrible films

@@gorillathemancomics3282 great movies wdym they develop their respective characters a lot and do some serious worldbuilding

And Miller's Batman is considered to be one of the worst depictions of the character. So what was your point?

@@ReaperBlaze76 Isn't The Dark Knight Returns one of the most influential Batman comics ever made?

@@gorangelo4525 It's also not the only story Batman Miller ever made.

@@ReaperBlaze76 yeah that's why The Dark Knight Returns is considered one of the best Batman stories. Because people hated his Batman

Not even remotely true. Pick up a little book called Year One. Y’all are straight up not understanding the point of Dark Knight Returns.

True that!

I wish I did skip

A lot of the cosmonaut fanboys are even giving out the dumbest arguments ever in the comments lol. Somebody said that Tex didn’t tackle anything that was said by cosmonaut... even though the whole video was Tex literally explaining why Cosmonaut’s points are invalid or silly & even though the entire video consists of counterpoints When his fans aren’t commenting the dumbest arguments, they’re just spreading false information. Somebody said that Superman doesn’t have an ego.... even though Superman has literally acted cocky BECAUSE of his ego in several comics & animated shows (and animated films). Lmao, these people are whack

@@commonsenseguy7654 that's common sense

People refuse to accept facts :/

Facts

@@skywalkergaming7258 exactly

Marcus has a toxic following. They treat him like a God and accept no criticism

so sad that even with tex's good explanation they still refuse to accept the goods that dcue has

You don’t know the context of that scene in That (show justice league unlimited is what it’s called) superman and Shazam fight in a empty city built by Lex Luther because Superman doesn’t trust lex and thinks he made a kryptonite bomb instead of a energy source completely different from MOS where Superman fights sod in a heavily populated area with little regard to the people around

@Radio Kaos the city was clearly evacuated by the time Superman punched Darkseid through, he even gives a speech about finally being able to cut lose knowing he won’t hurt anyone around🤦🏿‍♂️

@@michaeljoseph9634 man I love that episode ❤❤❤❤

all of these clowns saying superman made mistakes hes a newbie should wash their brains .every mistake he made was on him .tex the stupid clown just manipulating these kids lol. he chose to go to the south Indian ocean world engine instead of flying through the metropolis one before everything happened ,he chose to laser those unborn krypton kids and take down that ship middle of the city causing more building to crash and die ,he chose to phantom zoned all of his krypton ppl and he then cried like bih for zod like he didn't laser the only hope he had with his world .what he gonna do with zod ? did they knew ? no. that's so bad writing .he's a war criminal in this movie like snyder the amateur promised us before making the movie .he got a shitty advice form a 45 yr old grown ass man that maybe u shouldnt save ppl instead of" no son always save ppl always help those who need but be more careful with the identity first "yep that's how a grown ass man should have talked to his son .

@@herloss448 You can barely write a comment dude

You know comic books exist right? Zack Snyder didn't make their mother names the same

@@sintheon123 they seriously couldn't change it for the movie?

@@FranciscoRodriguez-iq9cb why? They would change their names just because they wouldn't be the same? The moment wouldn't have worked if their names were different. Because batman stopped killing superman because superman accidentally triggered his PTSD until Lous Lane came in to save him

@@sintheon123 They could have just dropped the name entirely and say "Mother" or "Mom"

@@FranciscoRodriguez-iq9cb yeah because it has the same impact totally!!

Bro had enough strength to break his neck,i get what they were going for but the execution was pretty bad,

@@Nabiliyur Yeah but that was probably all his strength. Zod could have probably easily resisted Superman trying to slowly move his head because he is holding back.

@@thedarktyrant i feel like if there were gonna give supes an ultimatum then they should have not have killed so many people in metropolis and make it where it is reasonable for us to believe that supes had no other choice Here supes could have quite literally fly bro out of the vicinity,or get in front of him,there was alot of things he could have done in that situation

@@Nabiliyur Yeah but Zod is still more experienced and equally or more powerful. Zod could also force the fight in Metropolis because he knows what will happen.

i r o n i c

Ikr

A man not pointing out anything worth while and acting like a superior prick on the internet, ironic

@Ruben Colon neither do you

While the person who answeres to that video only tells him what he says is wrong and takes Advantage of the coming up Snyder Cut, while doing the exact same thing.

How did Tex contradict himself? He stayed pretty level headed throughout the video

@@Juan-sw4pg talking about Cosmonaut

He actually has some good points

@@mistletoe3343 who cosmo .kids love him

Any specifics?

🤓

Most likely

No those are from people who know who batman and superman are and not trying to defend a shit movie.

@@eshmamb4678 hope Marcus sees your support, bro!

@@eshmamb4678 clearly you didn't get the movie lol

@@eshmamb4678 also if you aren't a zombie for the other guy why are you subscribed to tex? Which you have to be if you wanna prove this guys point wrong sir

@ChillyCloth He already ruins his movies himself.

@@SAMSARALIVEEEEEE I was about to say the same thing 🤣🤣 this video hasn’t convinced me that either movie is good

@ChillyCloth Who's WB?

@@JohnnyNuelo man of stee is better than b v s

@@caylya7869 dog piss is better than dog shit, sure, that doesn’t mean dog piss is good

Finally, someone with a brain

The only issue with that is this is the MAIN DC cinematic universe. I’m all for alternate takes, but this is where everyday people who DONT read comics get their takes on these characters, and having inaccurate versions of them in the mainstream continuity gives people the wrong idea of characters.

@@QuackUp I love accuracy. I put that above everything. Kinda annoyed since James is now in charge and messes with characters usually for the worse in my opinion like how his did Drax dirty. I hope every single character is accurate. Even if they're silly.

@@thedarktyrant I'm actually really excited that James is in charge because I think he might be able to step back and change up his tone for it. I don't KNOW that he will, but I hope he does. I don't think his tone works well for everything, but Guardians had been chopped up a lot and he kind of did his own thing with a lesser-known name for non-comics fans, and I'm a big fan of that. I know that there's been a bunch of controversy with the DCEU being scrapped, but I really didn't like it and I hope that the changes result in a new universe, something like Super Frame proposed in his DCCU pitches (check them out if you haven't seen them). Plus, we've already kicked off a new universe with The Batman and I think that'll be the Batman they'll use going forward since it's the best take on the character we've gotten on the big screen in a LONG time.

@@QuackUp The Batman is confirmed to be it's own thing just like Joker. We'll be getting another new Batman which is better because The Batman doesn't fit with anyone like Superman. The tones are gonna have to change a lot in a universe like DC. It's impossible to keep them consistent if you want to do these characters justice. That's why I love the DCEU. Feels more for comic book people in that variety you get just like comic books. You can't try to have a consistent tone between movies like Batman and Shazam in the future. That's literally impossible to do. Each character and movie should mostly feel completely different because they are.

Wait wait wait wait wait are you saying that constantly having responsibility throwout your life and power that makes you awkward also if you reference the spiderman films thats a completely different film and a completely different tone

Also yeah this is a completely different tone he doesn't have to be "comic like" just because in a comic you saw someone who saw someone read about the comics he was a good boy and had no flaws. Zack had a plan with his character but joss has made his vision more light hearted and kinda f'd up his arc

​@@bantergod7320 In the comics, Clark was more lighthearted for a reason. His parent's did not shield him from the outside world the way they did in Man of Steel. Because in those medium, the world had the Golden Age Heroes to sow some trust in the heart of the public about superhuman beings, hence less stress on the Kents. Zack Snyder's version of the DCEU had always been based on the New 52, which the Golden Age Heroes did not exist and the world was more bleak with superhuman distrust.

@@tartatovsky the outside world at the time the comic's were created were VERY different compared to modern day. we got news channels, racists, phobes, haters etc.

@@thesimpledude186 the new 52 are the modern interpretation based on our world view, hence the bleaker look into the superhuman distrust, acting as some kind of a metaphor for our version of it as you mentioned.

I mean clark could've just SPEAK before bashing each other from building to building. "yOu DoNt UnDeRsTaNd" "I uNdErStAnD" *Pushes batman* Yeah sure dont tell him that lex kidnapped your mom, lex orchestrated everything etc And proceeds to come down to batman and beat each other up instead of not making a fight out of it or you know? Just fly around not being reached by Batman from the ground. Superman was shown to be fast enough to not be noticed that he actually passes by and has xray vision. Instead of flying all over everything and seeing through shit and going in and out cuz im pretty sure hes faster than a flamethrower. Nope. Gotta fight batman first. I kinda get the point of the martha bit. Cuz "oooh it shows supes is human blah blah blah" and why it failed and considered as a joke because it is not executed correctly. I agree not everything has to be spoonfed but SPOON FEED SOME MORE PLEASE, because it ended up not making a lot of it with a pinch of sense. I get the intention of finding out clark is just as human as anybody else but you gotta atleast emphasize more on it other than giving us flashbacks of the Wayne's death. Or atleast fix the goddamn script "save my mom, save martha shes in danger i love her" or some shit like that. Give more reasons why bruce gave in to that decision to not kill clark. Because HIS mindset is all even if theres 1% chance superman is an enemy they have to take it as an absolute must. In no fucking way a sudden mentioning of your mom is gonna fuck up your goal

@@BeardedWolfKing clark still doesnt know batman is a good guy U hear frm that rapist's wife that he needs a fist and not some words.. so he tells him to stay down and all but batman starts beating him,spraying kryptonite etc etc He cant talk and stop the fight when he is getting beaten by a madman... batman wont listen And u see superman literally cry and yell save martha... think frm clark's perspective... after he dies if he would have said mother... how could someone save her... martha kent was the perfect word he could tell... as after his death someone could save her And u cld see a fatass boot in his throat.. he cant speak more And even in batmobile chase... batman is killing and blowing... and as clark previously researched abt this violent fellow batman is at fault... he doesnt know y they were fighting so he came to warn batman Bruce sees kid bruce in clark like he was crying the same way bruce cried... tats enough ig

@@vasisteel895 but HOW does clark know that? How does he know that bruce wayne, a guy that masked everything in his life to be this perfect, playboy richman and hid everything personal, would have lingering trauma in his mind that would trigger. What you're saying is just plot convince. Not something a dying man would say on the verge of death. Besides if he really does know batmans trauma and exploit it, why not say it earlier and let him break down earlier and tell him its my mom bruce. Or did superman planned to get bodied just to tell him martha? Although i can see your point at the end of your comment, but i can see it as : *Save my mother, save martha *WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME *Its his mothers name Or they could've put the line "my mother has been taken by luther batman help blah blah blah" or something like that so that martha scene would make sense along with my suggested save my mother save martha. Also, that scene could've just not happened in the first place. Either fly around try to convince bruce and not go near him if he really DOES not want any trouble with bruce instead of pushing him around and shit Or He doesnt need bruces help. Go nuts with xray vision and your speed. Scan everybuilding, your brain process everything a lot faster clark, i doubt you cant do shit like that.

@@BeardedWolfKing Clark doesn't know that Bruce still had trauma. Look at it this way: simply saying "save my mother" wouldn't work, for reasons others have said already, but also because it doesn't provide any helpful information. So instead he gives a name, "Martha", so that Bruce would at least have a clue in knowing who to look for. It's not the best execution, but what Zack was trying to portray and show in this scene makes perfect sense.

@@xxTheTruMan196 bruce only knew where to look for because he stopped and had a panic attack to then clark started telking what warehouse. Was clark counting on bruce stopping WHILE HAVING AN INTENT TO KILL? I bet that if clarks mom has a different name bruce would've never even consider stopping that spear. Besides the "helpful information"? Clark had ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD to say that instead he sulked and "you dont understand" then started roughhousing with batman lol. Bruce, lex has been manipulating us and my mother, martha is held captive to blackmail me to fight you. See that wasn't so hard? Bruce would'nt be stopping to stab supes if Martha Wayne had a different name. Mom would've worked regardless. If you're seeing it as a viewer and got hinted at all the times bruce was that helpless kid (superman on the ground) that would've still worked. I wish they put more emphasis on that of batman becoming Joe Chill pulling the trigger instead of the very distracting martha

It’s funny when people like to say “show, don’t tell,” then complain that they are being shown what they asked for.

This video is literally evidence that marcus analysis of the movie was mediocre as best, the guy cant even review a movie properly lol.

But he was perfectly happy with destroying his truck which would have been this man's livelihood???

@@joshuabell7761 if he punched the dude in the face he would’ve blown the guy up in the middle of the diner

@@channeljohnnyYT That's not my point, my point is that either option is really bad. My Clark / Superman would hold back his anger and then jump in to save that man when he is, say, mugged. Regardless of the bad things that man did. If these movies are trying to force in Jesus imagery, they should make Superman a character who is willing to give desperate people what they need not what they deserve.

@@joshuabell7761 oh no, the sexual assaulter had to file an insurance claim, the horror

@@seanlogan7912 😂

Browntable and Filmento, two good movie critics on youtube

@@AbelXAnne hitops too even though he doesn't like BvS he admits some parts are amazing

But Browntable also made a video about why Homecoming is better than Spider-Man 2 and completely misrepresent everything about Spider-Man 2.

@@abonny it's his opinion but I'll say what I loved in Homecoming is the ending..... Peter rejection of Tony's offer to join Avengers and his choice to become friendly neighborhood Spider-Man was I thought similar to Clark's journey to become Superman..... they both learn from experience

@@AbelXAnne Tenet review: How to fail at civil war.

Keaton's batman sucks anyone who tells you otherwise doesnt know shit about comic books. The best version of batman was the animated series from the 90's with the dope intro. Batman returns and dark knight were the best movie versions but nothing comes close to the animated series from the 90's.

the crux of your argument is saying "what about this" about something that you dont know marcus's opinion on. i might be wrong but i think i remember him saying in a video that he didnt like the keaton movies

bale's batman killed police officers during the chase in batman begins , he killed ra's al ghul , talia al ghul , harvey dent and the league of shadows let that sink in while affleck decided to stop killing criminals at the end of bvs when he decided to honor clark kent's sacrifice

So your argument is "you can't call this thing bad when this other thing is also bad"?

He never said he likes Keatons Batman but ok

Captain Marvel DID have a good story, but the character herself was very bland. For last Jedi he makes some reasonable points.

@@grug1343 No it didn’t, the story was just another lazy generic marvel story, forgettable, bland, uninteresting

@@camerashotstudios9162 ever heard of an opinion? I hear that a lot of people have those

@Camera Shot Studios I respect your opinion, and thanks for not being rude about it! 👍🏻

@Gary Poppins LOL this should be the other way around. TLJ is an absolute disgrace. The smallest scale star wars movie that consisted of a 2 hour long chase scene and a fucking casino planet. Not to mention what they did to Luke Skywalker. You can defend Snyder's take on Batman because there are many different takes on Batman but what Rian Johnson/Kathleen Kennedy did to Luke is unforgivable because there is only one Luke and they shit all over him . Don't know how anyone can defend that movie besides for political reasons.

This. Marcus's problem with these movies can not be solved with some edits, they would need a complete overhaul. The corrections in this video for the most part don't truly matter as the underlying problem isn't what is actually happening, but the tone it proposes.

@@akselevensen2763 Exactly. The movies tone and intentions are so off and it’s weird how he’s essentially explaining the plot of the movie to Marcus who has already seen it. Like dude we know what happens, we’re arguing about the execution and themes that were not done well

A lot of Marcus points tho did really show that Marcus did not understand parts of the movie. I don’t entirely agree that it was a “different perspective”

@@thankskanye1521 That's fine if you don't agree, but I think it's the best way that I can put it. I rewatched both videos to remember the context of my comment and immediately remembered why I said it. While I disagree with a couple things that Marcus says, I can't back Tex's arguments because so many of them miss the point of the original video being made. If you want to talk about it more, I have plenty of examples

@@juliuscorrea2863 I respect your opinion. I just personally feel like Tex did a pretty good job in showing not just to Marcus but to the general audience as well the misunderstanding that BvS received. Again there a fair amount of moments that Marcus either didn’t understand or didn’t take into account when discussing BvS. Not saying Tex video is 100% perfect, but still.

Preach it bruvah #snyderverse

He’s a hack who didn’t understand Watchmen and just looked at the pretty pictures, all style and no substance.

Maybe if he made a good opening movie people wouldn’t have hated on him so quickly. Look at Iron Man, all you need is a good opening movie but MOS is mid

genius my ass , he ruined DC and their characters

​@@hasthehighground8560trash take

If literally 0 people understand your film, then maybe the problem is not the audience

​@@alasdairscott4718 yeah, only time will tell. that's why some movies became a cult classic after years when people realized how ahead of time the movie is. in this case i think bc of the theatrical release made the movie and its audience confusing.

@@alasdairscott4718 I undestood the movie the first time.

@@alasdairscott4718 60% of understand that movie you guys are talking about that fuck.ing America there so many continents.i hate old superman movie people who stuck in thtat stupidity wont understand these movies.

all of these clowns saying superman made mistakes hes a newbie should wash their brains .every mistake he made was on him .tex the stupid clown just manipulating these kids lol. he chose to go to the south Indian ocean world engine instead of flying through the metropolis one before everything happened ,he chose to laser those unborn krypton kids and take down that ship middle of the city causing more building to crash and die ,he chose to phantom zoned all of his krypton ppl and he then cried like bih for zod like he didn't laser the only hope he had with his world .what he gonna do with zod ? did they knew ? no. that's so bad writing .he's a war criminal in this movie like snyder the amateur promised us before making the movie .he got a shitty advice form a 45 yr old grown ass man that maybe u shouldnt save ppl instead of" no son always save ppl always help those who need but be more careful with the identity first "yep that's how a grown ass man should have talked to his son .

Cus u cant like a content creator unless you agree with everything they say

@@lolstuffenjoy9880 "just about"

While his points are pretty valid he misses the point where just because a movie is deep doesn’t mean it’s entertaining. I found the movie unnecessarily long and some of the characters quite boring.

@The Predator eh thats a matter of preferences and perspective

I do too but I think this guy values this opinion way to much and I think cosmonauts video is really good

I agree

“As a CVH fan, I disagree with him”

@@playboikp The movie isn't that bad if you watch the movie again after the Snyder cut JL watch the ultimate edition it makes a lot of sense now.

@@playboikp Try watching BvS: Ultimate Edition. This version of the film makes everything clearer

@@playboikp well the theatrical version was ass but the Ultimate edition made it a million times better so not your fault there

@CARPAINTANNY Theres a reason for that though. Justice League is terrible. It’s up there with Fan4stic as one of the worst movies ever made. But it’s like the MCU movies: loud action set pieces with campy to lame jokes thrown in. Easy to digest. BvS tried be edgy, dark and different, while also having loud action set pieces, with some jokes, even though far and in between. Add the fact the characters don’t really work, and you have a 28% score on rotten tomatoes. Again, HATE Justice League. But BvS has flaws.

I would give it a 4/10 tbh.

Catwoman is better it so bad that its funny batman vs superman is just boring and bad

@CARPAINTM3 i mean both suck

That’s because it is😂

Sadly, a lot of people don’t like their opinions or beliefs challenged.

@Dead Pool religion should absolutely be challenged

Because SJW commies can’t stand someone refusing to bow and kneel to them

@Dead Pool Beliefs you should absolutely challenge because otherwise stupid people believe shit like communism and gender studies

@@roluevasreisa5730 you sound like a child.

@@mando4694 I don’t like when filmmakers have to tell every single thing. It’s almost insulting to the viewers intelligence. Big blockbuster movies always do that.

IKR dude, this fool has no deep or profound understanding of the masterpieces that are the Sam Raimi Spider-Man movies.

hmm pretty sure he said that he enjoys the raimi spiderman films he just thinks that certain elements are fairly outdated. Which eh holds up. I enjoy all the spiderman iterations despite their flaws Im one of the psychopaths who enjoys the amazing spiderman series. I like the mcu spiderman films Especially homecoming. However would only give far from home a 6.5/10. Now bout batman v superman and man of steel....yeah cosmonaut variety hour was dead wrong about it

@@MovieBits6 I don't think that the Raimi movies are dated in any aspect In fact I would easily call them timeless

@@user-mx4is4fx3c Exactly dude, see you get it. Also I'd love for you to come to my channel and subscribe, it'd be great to have you, I do superhero movie news, reviews and rankings.

@@totoro5874 Pretty much some of the CGI is spotty, but beside that, the Holy Trilogy is timeless. Also I'd love for you to come to my channel and subscribe, it'd be great to have you, I do superhero movie news, reviews and rankings.

We understand it. We just think its dumb

@@nathancardenas2719 it's dumb because...? The whole world will definetly panic if everyone figured out someone who can destroy a planet is at earth rn

@@kianlimbos689 im refferring to the dumb take that is "you dont like batman vs superman because you just dont understand it"

@@nathancardenas2719 I mean, most people misunderstand it and miss why something is happening, and then hate on the film because they say it doesn’t make sense.

@@grug1343 "most people misunderstand it" this is why people give snyder cult a hard time. You guys are are so insecure and arrogant.

That's basically saying the same thing though

That's only in bad faith reviews. Sadly all these people have to do these days is make an "one marvelous scene" video to be considered good faith critics for these kinds of scenes so the scene is muddled

Not really most people who watch these kind of videos have already watch the movies. That's the whole point.

@@jeremyrdlamaxima7052 you sure ??? Cause judging from the comments, Mostly, they don't

@@jeremyrdlamaxima7052 I seriously doubt that. Because half of the criticisms they usually throw are answered in the movie so no one that watched it should have them

@@kartikadewi3270 I'm 80 % percent sure specially since I said "most" and it's true. Most people look these types of videos up on KZfaq. It's not like they get recommended. If they disagree with the video they either say it in the comments or dislike the videos. Go to one of those videos and see the comments. You are going to find people talking about the movie, those who like you said don't watch the movies and those who agree with the youtuber. It seems like you are underestimating people and just assuming what you want to think.

If you still haven’t yet, please do try and watch the ultimate edition

You won’t regret it.

@@overborg I watched it and OMFG why didn't we get this in theaters

@@JonP1245 cuz they said it was too long

Watch it before the Snyder Cut. Best decision ever made ;]

It’s funny cuz in Superman ll. Zod literally lost all his power and was at Superman’s mercy and he still killed him. But in Man of Steel Zod was gonna destroy all civilization on earth😂😂😂

What is the point of seeing a movie series from a guy who doesn't understand the characters he is writing about? It doesn't matter if he had 10 movies. The characters whould still be as shallow as Snyder's perception of them.

The comments here on this vid are a 1000x worse

@@totoro5874 You guys are nasty too. You're legit calling us dumb because of a fictional universe.

@@SlickDemi no were calling you dumb because you actually like a bad movie

@@codered1132 What are you talking about?

@@codered1132 you are the problem.

You don’t think either do?

no one CAN understand BvS because its incomprehensible

TVC

@SpongeBob SquarePants No it’s just bad.

@@f3lla776 fax 😂