Could Ukrainian Migs Hit Russian Navy Ships In Sevastopol With US Harpoons? (WarGames 77) | DCS
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Ukraine-Russia Series:
Ukraine Using US APKWS?: • Could Ukrainian Mi-17s...
Ukraine US HARMs vs Russian S-400: • Is Ukraine Hitting Rus...
Patriot/NASAMS vs Supersonic Missiles: • Video
Fulcrum/Flanker vs Foxbat/Super Flanker: • Mig-29 & Su-27 vs Su-3...
NASAMS vs Russian Cruise Missiles: • Could US-Supplied NASA...
Russian KH-47M2 vs Polish Air Force: • Could Russian Air-Laun...
Su-27 & Drone vs Snake Island: • Could Ukrainian Su-27s...
Su-25s vs Russian Convoy At Kyiv: • Could Su-25s Penetrate...
NATO Eurofighters vs Crimean AWACS: • Could NATO Eurofighter...
Patriot, Gepard & Gripen vs KH-65: • Could Patriot, Gepard ...
A-10s vs Russian Convoy At Kyiv: • Could A-10s Penetrate ...
USN Tomahawk Strike Kerch Bridge: • Could Russian Su-35, S...
USAF Stealth Strike Kerch Bridge: • Could USAF Strike Pene...
Ukrainian Jets Strike Kerch Bridge: • Could Ukrainian Jets P...
F-22 Raptors vs Russian Fighters: • Could F-22 Raptors Dom...
Raptor/Eagle vs Super Flanker: • F-22 Raptor & F-15 Eag...
USAF Bombers vs Mariupol Defenses: • Which Aircraft Can Pen...
Ukraine Bombs Snake Island: • 2022 Ukrainian Su-27 F...
Stealth Fighters vs Russian Bombers: • Could USA Operate Stea...
Sinking Of Moskva #3: • Why The Moskva's Radar...
Sinking Of Moskva #2: • Ex-US Navy Guys Specul...
Sinking Of Moskva #1: • How Well Defended Was ...
Russia Nukes Britain: • Could Britain Be Defen...
Ukraine Uses Danish F-16s: • If Denmark Loaned F-16...
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Russian-Britain Missile Attack: • Could Britain Survive ...
Ghost Of Kyiv: • The Ghost Of Kyiv Comm...
Belgorod Raid: • Belgorod Raid: Could A...
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US Strike vs Odessa • Could A Coordinated US...
Russian Helo Rocket Lob: • Can Helicopters Really...
Russian Su-25 vs US Patriot SAM: • Could Russian Su-25s O...
Understanding Russian SAMs: • Explained: Russian SAM...
Ukrainian Jets Road Operations: • Could Su-27, Mig-29A O...
Russian 40 Mile Convoy: • Could FA-18, A-10 Or B...
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@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
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@Wyomingchief Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the list. Very convenient 👌
@TheBKnight3 Жыл бұрын
Can HARMs be used as anti-ship missiles?
@Wyomingchief Жыл бұрын
@@TheBKnight3 yes and no. They cannot be made specifically to Target ships. They target the radar, and as long as the ship has their radar on or had it on where the harm could lock then yes it could be used as an anti-ship sort of
@Anarchy_420 Жыл бұрын
F-86 Sabre VS A-10 Thunderbolt II Mosquito VS Pucara F-111 Aardvark VS MIG-27K F4U Corsair VS A-1 Skyraider F-1 Mirage VS Panavia Tornado P-47 Thunderbolt VS SU-25 Frogfoot J-7 VS MIG-21 J-10 VS SU-27 *Please fly Planes on the left!🙏 However feel free to swap in some😁✌
@TheBKnight3 Жыл бұрын
@@Wyomingchief Ah, so the target fleet must be competent and ready.
@kawco Жыл бұрын
Eleven Slovak MiG-29s will probably be sent to Ukraine soon. Our country grounded them because they had to be maintained by Russian technicians. We ordered 14 Vipers as replacement, first ones will arrive in 2024. In the meantime, Czech and Polish air forces protect our airspace.
@terrynewsome6698 Жыл бұрын
That is why I suggested this setup in the first place
@markiobook8639 Жыл бұрын
You do realize wars can spread? It's not going to be fun and games with roasted marshmallows and potatoes around the campfire. You are arming the foe of an aggressive nuclear superpower who thinks the USSR was just wonderful.
@kawco Жыл бұрын
@@markiobook8639 Russia is no superpower, aside from the nukes, which they won't use, because then, even the few allies they have left would shun them. Their military is just a blown up propaganda bubble, as is shown by the Ukrainians almost every day. Armata, Su-57, and the laughable cardboard Su-75 will never make it to serial production. Even the S-400, which is one of the few systems they actually managed to deploy si vastly underperforming it's declared performance - Ukrainian jets are bombing the Kherson frontline every day, well within the declared range of the S-400 on Crimea, and yet none was shot down. Ukraine is our neighbour, and it is my pleasure that our country can help them even a little to defend their freedom against the empire of shit that is today's Russia!
@terrynewsome6698 Жыл бұрын
@@markiobook8639 a nation with a smaller budget than Italy and has lost more then a quarter of its modern tank force. Yeah I have demoted Russia from a major threat like China, to north Korea tier.
@MausMasher54 Жыл бұрын
I would bring in an FMS/OMS type technicians from around the EU to fix what may be necessary to make them fully functional????
@LondonSteveLee Жыл бұрын
The Ukrainian Neptune missile is far superior to Harpoon and CAN be programmed to look for certain ships (by silhouette) and even pick out where on that ship the missile should strike. The French SCALP based ASM can also perform the same trick.
@PedjoGT Жыл бұрын
Neptune is sssr based missile
@jamison884 Жыл бұрын
The US has multiple missiles with more advanced features (including the feature you mentioned, identifying ships against a database which is a feature on the NSM and LRASM), but the primary issue here is buggy anti-ship missiles in DCS as a whole. I don't believe any anti-ship missile in the game works properly to deconflict between missiles based on the overall targeting area and the number of ships post-launch. Besides that, DCS is using an older variant of the Harpoon, and the US is replacing the Harpoon with the Naval Strike Missile going forward as its dedicated deck-launched anti-ship missile (including the modified NSM, called the Joint Strike Missile, which is fired via aircraft or Mk 41 VLS), in addition to a new variant of Tomahawk with greater anti-ship capability. Then there's the SLAM-ER (command guidance data link, infrared and GPS guidance systems), JASSM, LRASM, and SM-6, which are all capable of hitting ships. While I agree that Neptune appears to be a great missile, I don't believe they have the quantity available for such an attack, or if they do, they don't want to risk a majority of their inventory. Both reasons would be entirely understandable, particularly manufacturing issues encountered when an enemy is constantly seeking to destroy infrastructure. I believe it's an availability issue in particular, as otherwise, what's stopping them from using Neptune more aggressively since its initial operational success in sinking the Moskva? I do recall one thing though, during the numerous videos and articles reviewing the reported Moskva damage photos, multiple analysts stated the Neptune missiles target the largest RCS area of the ship, which would be the bridge and just ahead/behind the bridge. The analysts noted this falls in line with the impact area shown in the image.
@Joe_Friday Жыл бұрын
@@jamison884 Can these new naval strike missiles be fired from the same cells as the harpoons? If so, it'd be nice to replace the harpoons on ships and submarines. Keep the old stocks of harpoons as backups or sell them to friendlies.
@llJRLL1979ll Жыл бұрын
Finding* a silhouette profile isn't a great method of tracking- it means you have to fire from the exact correct angle
@jamison884 Жыл бұрын
@@Joe_Friday Its in development last I read.
@DowJonesDave Жыл бұрын
To get a better spread use a line formation, very widely spread, and shoot the missiles along a wide front. You're using a narrow front and everything comes in from the same vector, so they home on the same ship. You had plenty of time to get into a wide line formation (like one plane per mile) so that your missiles would be approaching from different vectors. The missiles would be more evenly distributed between the targets.
@TheLucidscreamz Жыл бұрын
yeah do a rerun with above statagy
@pokeybit Жыл бұрын
6:48 Canopy just makes cockpit fill with cigar smoke
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
agreed
@tomgoluke1425 Жыл бұрын
44°32'39"N 33°26'01"E there is at least another air Defence site closer to harbour including radar and multiple launch vehicles
@joejoemyo Жыл бұрын
People are going over satellite images searching for missile sites so the wargame is more accurate. I love DCS
@patricktho6546 Жыл бұрын
@@joejoemyo I mean for War Thunder some idiots shared classified documents of tanks in service and stuff
@thenotoriouspig8864 Жыл бұрын
@@patricktho6546 "shared"
@patricktho6546 Жыл бұрын
@@thenotoriouspig8864 yes, until it got taken down
@subjectc7505 Жыл бұрын
@@patricktho6546 until this day I'm still laughing about that
@itsjustjuan8239 Жыл бұрын
“Grumpnik is back!” -Dies unceremoniously
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
That's our Grump!
@WyvernFalken Жыл бұрын
Grumpnik is always here! Except when he's sitting on an empty fuel pod in the middle of the Black Sea. Send help...And vodka.
@kevinmccarley7121 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this one, THANKS! The two rolls and the launches looked gorgeous!! Would love to see an update with a more complex scenario: Russian fighters, a Ukrainian decoy/SEAD/Wild Weasel flight, active ship defense, etc. Anyway, this was a lot of fun!!
@angrypandaification Жыл бұрын
"Grumpnik is back!" Laughed pretty hard at that, good job fellers.
@WyvernFalken Жыл бұрын
I mean...Grumpnik is always here! :) Except when he's not.
@angelarch5352 Жыл бұрын
I love how there is always a crash on takeoff with GR, never fails to entertain-- "Lift gear, then take off right?... ohhhh wait..." :D
@causam2508 Жыл бұрын
Pausing at 5:06 before I see how this works out to suggest a more roundabout route (it would require tankers). Stay out of detection range of the S400. Go south, then east, then northwest. Skirt the mountains at low level, popup just as you round the western tip. Fire away, then skedaddle back south to meet up with the tankers again.
@WyvernFalken Жыл бұрын
How exactly do you mid-air refuel with a plane that is not AAR capable?
@causam2508 Жыл бұрын
@@WyvernFalken Stop the war on straws. That's how. 🤣
@lenn55 Жыл бұрын
The new generation of ASMs like the LRASM has an imaging IR sensor that can be programmed to hit a specific ship.
@neolexiousneolexian6079 Жыл бұрын
Or, if I'm not mistaken, a specific point on a specific ship.
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Is it Man-in-loop missile? I have'nt read about it yet.
@LondonSteveLee Жыл бұрын
As can the Ukrainian Neptune.
@jonathanpfeffer3716 Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers it is not, likely can be preprogrammed with certain target parameters beforehand but after its gone its autonomous. perhaps the parameters can be updated mid-flight using the same datalink course corrections are fed through, but that is unknown
@0612Devil Жыл бұрын
You guys are killing it with this great content!
@dan.vitale Жыл бұрын
Cap, Ukraine already have Harpoons via a donation by Denmark of ground launch vehicles back in May. Not sure how easily they might be to convert for air launch purposes but they're not unfamiliar with the weapon!
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan
@joeatwood6905 Жыл бұрын
As a general rule you guys grossly overload your aircraft, your carriers, and your strike packages.
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
I wanted to carry 8 but the boys talked me down.
@WyvernFalken Жыл бұрын
Must be your first GR video, mate. o7 Welcome.
@drebin4575 Жыл бұрын
Good video, wouldn't the UAF do a joint mission that includes Drones in order to get the s-400 to engage the drones?. I mean they have some options on the table on how to engage the fleet. It wouldn't surprise me if the USA and Ukraine are already war gaming this strategy....
@valuedhumanoid6574 Жыл бұрын
There are thousands of variables that could have been involved with this. But like Cap said at the beginning of the video that's not the scope of this scenario. No fighters over head, nothing to interfere with the goal, which is seeing if the Mig 29 can fire the American Harpoon. No more than that.
@jerseyshoredroneservices225 Жыл бұрын
@@valuedhumanoid6574 We know it can fire the harpoon, that's not anything that needs to be simulated with this exercise. What matters is if the Ukrainian migs can get hits on the ships so I don't understand why we're not really testing that with a more realistic scenario. The video started off talking about the harm missile but now I guess we're not going to use it 😞
@Firedad376 Жыл бұрын
@@jerseyshoredroneservices225 Cap mis-spoke when he was saying harms. He meant to say Harpoons.
@jerseyshoredroneservices225 Жыл бұрын
@@Firedad376 Ohhhh, that makes a big difference. It's been confirmed that HARM is in use so maybe do a version 2.0 of this video?
@davidelliott5843 Жыл бұрын
He said MiGs have already been adapted to fire HARMS. It should not be too hard to do the same with Harpoons.
@chrislong3938 Жыл бұрын
Man! Back in the late-ish '90s, I used to play one of the first multi-player flight sims! Back when everyone was using modems...! First, we had 14,400, then 28,800, and then 56k... The graphics were surprisingly good for the day but due to irregular modem connectivity, planes would just 'warp' away and you'd have to chase them down to try to get your kill. The game started out as 'Confirmed Kill' but was later renamed 'Warbirds'. It was a WWII sim and god it was fun to play! You had to type your conversations though because of the low bandwidth! Seeing you guys in this sim makes me want to go out and buy a new joystick etc, and join in the fun!!! I had quit playing before DSL came around and haven't really messed with those sims since... This really looks like a good time though! Great video!!!
@TheAmbex Жыл бұрын
Biden sitting there watching GR. "Hey, guys, I got this great idea..." lol
@terrynewsome6698 Жыл бұрын
Hay now don't forget it was my idea Just having a laugh
@pokeybit Жыл бұрын
If only grumpnik had a canopy to use as a raft 🥲
@WyvernFalken Жыл бұрын
I had an empty fuel pod! It's all good!
@CombatIneffective Жыл бұрын
Taking off needs an absolute master class. Cap, seriously? Anyone that has watched more than 3 videos knows that you all are experts at taking off without any problems!
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
ermmm, as long as there are no follow-up questions, yes...
@warbuzzard7167 Жыл бұрын
lol
@tridbant Жыл бұрын
One pilot said “I tell the plane how to fly, the plane does not tell me.” As the title of a documentary some time ago “ The right Stuff is now The Wrong Stuff”
@LondonSteveLee Жыл бұрын
That pilot is wrong - no-one flies a fighter jet any more - they direct it. Modern jets are completely unstable - flown by computers.
@tridbant Жыл бұрын
@@LondonSteveLee exactly, ignoring the electronics often ends in tragedy.
@Lankygit01 Жыл бұрын
UAF: so thanks for volunteering to conduct this air strike for us so how many harpoons did you say you wanted on the Mig 29's we're lending you? Grim Reapers: Yes
@Anarchy_420 Жыл бұрын
UH-1H, SA342 Gazelle, and AH-64 Apache VS Mi-8, Mi-24 Hind, and Ka-50 Kamov You've never done a 3V3 like this! ;)
@chrislong3938 Жыл бұрын
8:13 - I taught that guy everything I know! The maneuver is called the 'Bamboozled Cobra'! It really confuses the enemy!
@red2001ss Жыл бұрын
AGM-84 runs about $1.4M a piece for the Block II as of 2020.
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
When the missiles are more expensive than your plane...
@CombatIneffective Жыл бұрын
I am guessing that the drag from the cockpit being gone is not modeled in DCS?
@92HazelMocha Жыл бұрын
AFAIK it's not, but in the JF17 you'll black out from oxygen deprivation.
@matteohetzy7599 Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see russian submarines launching cruise missiles at land targets being counteracted by OTOMAT Milas AntiSubmarine missiles (basically an antiship missile delivering an active torpedo)
@voradfils Жыл бұрын
8-9 deg AoA on takeoff is fine (instead of just 5). Nose up to that attitude between 180-230 km/h to prevent the t[i,y]res from popping and let her fly off the ground. FC3 things yo. Attempting to climb aggressively right after takeoff, especially with a heavily loaded plane, is a reliable indication of low aviation aptitude.
@terrynewsome6698 Жыл бұрын
You could have used the training two seater mig-29 to solve for the communication with the missiles problem. Having the men in the back seat acting like a gunner, communing data from NATO satellite and awac.
@dannythomson5239 Жыл бұрын
"best thing i can hope to be is a professional idiot" lol
@forge20 Жыл бұрын
"...or does that mean you lost the thing that was vibrating?" "Either way is fine."
@IRONIC1688 Жыл бұрын
AWESOME!!! Missed this series.
@dexlab7539 Жыл бұрын
Great mission - well executed Cap…Thanks! 😃
@noman098 Жыл бұрын
While you show a 400km circle around the S-400 site you should instead draw a 250km circle as the S-400 from the mod does not fire the 40N6 but instead the 48N6E3 (aka 48N6DM in the mod). Not that it really matters in this case as you were well within range of either missile.
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
I do actually have a way of making it fire 400km by merging it with the Triumf mod.
@noman098 Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers Is that a separate mod from the S-300 series with S-400 and Pantsir by Strigoi_dk and LetMePickThat? If so and it's not a private mod if you could let me know where I can find it. I've looked through the GR discord and also the DCS mods page and google for any and all SAM mods but that and the High Digit Sams (HDS) are the only ones I've found. If it is the same mod, looks like it but you never know, the missiles that are the long range ones are the 48N6E3 (250km) and the short range ones are the 9M96E2 (120km). Of course if it's not the same mod or if the missile has been modified to more fit the 40N6 characteristics than nevermind. I've merged the S-300 series and the HDS mod together (mostly - can't get the S-300V4 to work yet) for private use, but if there is another mod that adds more SAM capability I'd be interested in adding it too. Anyways love the content. Your SAM series of content got me into DCS and interested in SAM sites as a whole.
@horusfalcon Жыл бұрын
Well, they would target whatever's radiating. The "Russians" here would simply just let their smaller ships take the hits to preserve their heavy assets. Makes sense to me.
@subjectc7505 Жыл бұрын
That's what I have been thinking. His just getting rid of the old and save the new?
@DS-nu7kx Жыл бұрын
Great, it works :) love all the work you do... soon to help in more ways than comment, but I like seeing the struggle even for the vets. Just watched the new plane release also so combining the comments but yeah always keep me watching. Untill we meet again !
@sebstiangoriesky5265 Жыл бұрын
Not sure if anyone's put this out yet, but the Kh-35 (aka the Harpoonski) can actually be fired from Mig-29's and I have no doubt that the Ukrainian version has a similar capability.
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
thx
@jasonespinoza5105 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! I am not at all surprised that the MiG-29 can shoot American missiles. I had the opportunity to get up close to one of those lovely Russian ladies when I was in the USAF and I've been in love with it ever since.
@joshuawilkinsNWCoast Жыл бұрын
Have to say, watched the whole vid and enjoyed it! Ty
@philipcooper4375 Жыл бұрын
The Mig-29 is still a great plane, and upgraded with American precision weapons could be just as deadly as the F-16. The drawback is the Mig has a relatively light fuel capacity limiting range
@NE-Explorer Жыл бұрын
The harpoon needs 115V, maybe at 400Hz, to warm up.
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
I guess a lot of conversion is required.
@sulyokpeter3941 Жыл бұрын
Absouletly sick looking fighter jet the MiG-29 in my opinion. I love that aircraft. When I was 9-10 yo I was in an Airshow, where the Hungarian Air Force flying MiG-29 above us in formation. Absolutely stunning view was that, and that was the point when I started to love the Eurofighter Typhoons also from the German Air Force. Such an amazing fighter jets!
@elliott4299 Жыл бұрын
SU-27 is better
@sulyokpeter3941 Жыл бұрын
@@elliott4299 No chance that a Su-27 better than a Eurofighter Typhoon. Maybe better than a MiG-29 but not even close to the Eurofighter.
@teresaharmon4405 Жыл бұрын
Love Grumpnic and Damp and CAP. What a group.....
@SptifireAce Жыл бұрын
It's been a while sine i've flown a fc3 module, but if i remember correctly you can reset trim to neutral with ctrl + t. That would solve the trim problem after disengaging autopilot Supercap.
@raysteigerwalt5272 Жыл бұрын
Ah I don't need that canopy lol
@meltonkentjr1226 Жыл бұрын
Grumpnik only stands when he pees!
@petertyson4022 Жыл бұрын
Very impressed. 10 of you flying. It looked really good as well. 👍😊
@__-fm5qv Жыл бұрын
Just imagine the amount of fuel being burnt for take off when they're that heavy!
@sulyokpeter3941 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see in the DCS the new AWACS E-7 Wedgetail. It can fly much more higher altitude than the old AWACS and have a better range because of that, not to mention its new sensors and radars. Some says it can detect a stealth 5th gen aircraft much more earlier than the old E-3 Sentry, also it can defend itself vs amraams. The old version cant really do the same so no more escort needed in order to protect it.
@LondonSteveLee Жыл бұрын
The problem with AWAC is the RADAR range is about the same (or slightly shorter) than the engagement range of R-37. Yes it's unlikely R-37 could engage a fighter taking evasive action - but it'll steer well enough to track an AWAC sized target. Hopefully Russia doesn't have too many of those - but I suspect they would keep some back for exactly this task if things escalate - they'd be mad not to. I wouldn't like to be sitting in a 737 with one of those hurtling towards me!
@sulyokpeter3941 Жыл бұрын
@@LondonSteveLee Iam not speaking about that R-37 missile. Its more like a BVRAAM than an AMRAAM. :) Also, yes you correct. In real life an AWACS would be destroyed first, before any fighting will happen.(If there is an AWACS)
@jonathanpfeffer3716 Жыл бұрын
@@LondonSteveLee an r-37 would have lower range than an AWACS could detect (specifically detect) any non-stealth fighter sized target. also, an r-37 needs (of course) a firing solution which can only be acquired by any Russian fighter (specific distances will vary depending on the launch platform) at a much lower range than the R-37s max range
@LondonSteveLee Жыл бұрын
@@jonathanpfeffer3716 Sure AWACS would and could detect it - so what? You're not going to stop it in an AWACS. You can turn and run hoping you run it out of range and leave the battlefield or get shot down! I would expect western jammers to do well but would you want to bet your life on it?
@uncletiggermclaren7592 Жыл бұрын
If those jets took off so close as that to each other, wouldn't they set the guy behind on fire?.
@WyvernFalken Жыл бұрын
Fire? No. Blow lots of air on and around it? Yes.
@BlitzvogelMobius Жыл бұрын
17:30. What a shot!
@jeffrielley920 Жыл бұрын
Should have replaced one of those Harpoons with a HARM on each jet.
@Stinger522 Жыл бұрын
There's no point in carrying a mixed loadout if there's a good chance you won't live long enough to launch all of the weapons. The UAF does not have as many fighters as the USAF so they have to play guerilla style. Get in, launch ordnance, get out.
@victoriaskuse118 Жыл бұрын
Flippin’ heck! I’ve got sweaty palms watching this 😱
@thesandwichfreak3780 Жыл бұрын
"Over-yonder" is "That-away's" reciprocal direction.
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
lol
@WyvernFalken Жыл бұрын
No that's "Back the way ya came"
@DowJonesDave Жыл бұрын
I'm sure the air defenses at sevastopol are much denser than this.
@WyvernFalken Жыл бұрын
Yeah I imagine they are pretty dense. Too dense to see the threats coming at them. 🤣🤣
@DowJonesDave Жыл бұрын
@@WyvernFalken lol good one!
@jasoncampbell5518 Жыл бұрын
If you launched from different vectors. Like a 50 mile separation and in stagered waves with the way there modeled in . Would the missiles do a better job of selecting different targets ?
@AllToDevNull Жыл бұрын
Second fleet sending HARM to the S400 site shortly before climbing and firing the Harpoons should do the trick.
@MichaelCasanovaMusic Жыл бұрын
I've always loved the Mig 29.Such a great looking airframe
@apeironcollection3879 Жыл бұрын
I would really like to repeat this myself. Can someone suggest me how to accomplish this? I have already flown with HARM missiles (a new mod for mig29). I even tried to change the payload in the Mig29 text file (in MisionEditor/UnitPayloads). But the agm84-d missiles I had used could not be launched, only dropped. I would be very grateful if someone could help.
@vinceelliott4362 Жыл бұрын
Kick Ass boys! First time viewer - loved it!
@johncarlo5971 Жыл бұрын
If they are hesitant due to the S-400, why not send in first the SU-25 with HARM missiles to disarm those SAMs (it need those RADARs to operate and be effective), to be followed then by the MIG 29.
@emergcon Жыл бұрын
The missles ignored the moskwa because they arent anti submarine.
@Jordan-du6fu Жыл бұрын
The admiral gorshkov class frigate can shoot the same missiles as the s400 air defence system
@miraphycs7377 Жыл бұрын
Redut system on Gorshkov is S-350
@gregpekar7328 Жыл бұрын
would love to see you re run the mission with two migs carrying HARMs and see the result. will the simulation also include AWACS? I was told there is always a russian AWACS orbiting Crimeria.
@nori8627 Жыл бұрын
Hi! Is it uncommon to attack two locations in modern warfare in one mission squadron? A few mig can deploy AGM88 as the s400 radar is fully exposed while majority aims for ships. Also, I wonder HARM can seeks and destroy the radar (in different bands?) on ships. Is the missile designed for moving target on the sea?
@gregbarnes4083 Жыл бұрын
Thats a good shout, the s400s most dangerous asset is its track radar which needs to stay on for the majority of the missiles flight time, so having a weasal squadron doing SEAD and destroying the track radars would be doing some serious damage. Also to answer the question, yes they can track moving radars as long as the source remains active. But for the sake of launching HARMs at ships you might as well just launch ASMs since they have evasive capabilities and can be launched from further away than HARMs.
@jamison884 Жыл бұрын
In DCS, I'm pretty sure the HARM just hits the last spot it detected radiation, so if a radar was on and operational, it turned off, and it was moving, the HARM would not track it once turned off. Therefore, I'm not sure if it is capable of hitting moving ships with a radiation signature and I'd love to know what it does in the real world. As far as a DCS test, I think it would be a pretty cool video to test the HARM against various conditions, such as a moving ground target and both a static and moving ship. However, due to DCS not programming ships in high fidelity, they can't be controlled to turn their radar emissions off to fully test the theory. In a real mission as long as Ukraine has the spare Mig-29s, they would probably send them in to take out the S-400. However, this video was just to test the Harpoon scenario. It's quite interesting to see the "mighty" S-400 pretty easily defeated by the gaggle of Harpoons. It fired ~60 missiles with very few hits (if any?), as it looked like the S-400 missiles were losing lock during their terminal approach. I'm not sure exactly why, but I guess the RCS and speed of the Harpoons (plus being in a large group) confused the SAMs.
@nori8627 Жыл бұрын
@@gregbarnes4083 Thank you for the answers! HARM is a little faster so I thought it would be somewhat better penetrating the defense than Harpoons would. Mix use of them in DCS may be interesting in future videos? :)
@gregbarnes4083 Жыл бұрын
@@nori8627 Now that would be super interesting
@TheBKnight3 Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. "Soften" a ship, knock them out cold.
@TheHitbear Жыл бұрын
Sooooo much smoke. Love it!
@baldieman64 Жыл бұрын
Weird that the Harpoons don't have a guidance subsystem that detects explosions and switches the missile to a secondary target if the ship that it is tracking is hit by another missile.
@ccbb6387 Жыл бұрын
Cap please review the capability of s400 in-game, there is video footage of HIMARS hitting a bridge defended by s400 multiple times in one night even pantsir failing to defend it
@williamhumber5890 Жыл бұрын
Are you suggesting that the real life capabilities of the S-400 may be wildly exaggerated? Say it ain't so. =)
@class.C Жыл бұрын
Russians dont have any s400s around kherson bridges which is why theyre using harms and himars to overwhelm the panstirs
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Already done: Vs S400 Series: Stealth Airliner vs S-400 IADS: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fJOEiLZoqKi1qaM.html Tossing Nukes vs S-400 IADS: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ateIjcSJ2J_Jgmw.html HIMARS vs S-400: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bs1xjat-0amydqs.html USN ToT Strike vs S-400 IADS: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ftmCatyfzqqdhYE.html Kh-47M2 Kinzhal vs S-400 IADS: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/etCThNGj27OsknU.html Sweden & Star Wars vs S-400 IADS: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oZlgZrSf0bzTnmQ.html WWI, WWII & Stealth vs S-400 IADS: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pL-niLR41LW3pWw.html USAF 4th Gen Strike vs S-400 IADS: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z9WBa6xhlavSk3U.html Different USAF Bombers vs S-400: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l6mjldKArJa1hWg.html
@ccbb6387 Жыл бұрын
@@class.C they have a 400mile range (on paper )and it did try to intercept the HIMARS but failed
@gregpekar7328 Жыл бұрын
Speculation in the field is the HIMARS rockets fly too fast, low, and flat for S400 to engage, it is fine against true ballistic missiles coming in from high altitude, or a slower cruise missile, or an ATACMS.
@timallison8560 Жыл бұрын
GREAT VID!!!
@robertwennberg7260 Жыл бұрын
The most aesthetically pleasing Soviet airplane, armed with 6 American rods in the hands of the Boys. Nice breakfast coffee companion.
@jamesd4013 Жыл бұрын
brilliant
@EL4Mdesu Жыл бұрын
Hey Cap and the Grim Reapers. I got a question about anti radiation missiles in DCS. Since they lock on to radar radiations, could they be used to fire on AWACS or fighters since they shouldn't give a RWR ping.
@92HazelMocha Жыл бұрын
Yes they can, but due to some DCS coding it only really works inside of 10nm generally.
@jean-yvesfriant1809 Жыл бұрын
Good video. But from what I found, Harpoon is an expensive missile (almost $4M, roughly same price as an S-400 missile). This make this mission $240M just for the missiles! What about trying the same with much cheaper AGM-154? A first flight fires JSOW too low to reach target but enough to trigger missile launch by the S-400 site. Once the site is out of ammo, the second flight climbs higher for the real strike (and probably try to do that before Russian fighters arrive). Of course, this requires S-400 to target AGM-154...
@TheAmbex Жыл бұрын
Interesting idea and it got me thinking of return on investment. How much money for a strike vs cost to the enemy. I read recently a newer Russian destroyer is about 1B USD. So in this case it worked out well. I do wonder if this type of calculation happens often.
@mikehawley5108 Жыл бұрын
War is attrition and finance as well as combat. If it costs you £100 million in missiles to sink a 750million ship that could do countless millions if not billions of damage to your fleet etc as well as the strategic loss..... No brainer. Also.... Knowing you have more ordanance to replace what you just shot.... Vs either taking their ordanance out, or knowing the enemy is running out. Cut supply lines etc....
@danielelombardo8196 Жыл бұрын
In this scenario the RuAF should probably just cease to exist and not decide to scramble after waves of mig-29s appeared in the Black Sea
@crabluva Жыл бұрын
It's cost-efficient to take out the Black Sea Fleet and unblock the ports. Each Ukrainian frigate can export millions of dollars worth of goods. Also this assault is pretty cheap by US standards, who are funding this.
@AndySpicer Жыл бұрын
Well, that is certainly the All-Star squadron.
@FalcoGer Жыл бұрын
A real HARM would blow up the radar on those ships if it hit. They're quite accurate. In DCS the frag warhead designed to blow up delicate little radars on vehicles will do jack all against ships.
@Pax.Britannica Жыл бұрын
If all harpoons go for the radar, what weapons do the navy actually have that will sink the ship after they've been blinded?
@FalcoGer Жыл бұрын
@@Pax.Britannica harpoons will go for center of mass on the waterline or the deck with a popup attack. I was talking about HARMs (AGM-88).
@draleigh8881 Жыл бұрын
awesome videos lately cap.
@ae86rally Жыл бұрын
when you gave the plan of attack all I could think of was TopGun Maverick
@mrlodwick Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@theclassicliberal1915 Жыл бұрын
Are you guys having to land on the road before the mission or are you able to start from the road through the mission editor? I can’t figure it out through the editor.
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Make it CLIENT first then ME will let you place it on ground.
@arkbirdarcher19 Жыл бұрын
I swear I've heard you guys talk these autopilot references before weird deja vu
@ExiledPiasa Жыл бұрын
“Well, that sent a message to Moscow.” Yeah… “Hey! We need some more cannon fodder out here… go raid the local Jr Highschools!”
@jjbpaca Жыл бұрын
Love these videos. Regarding this one: If the 8 planes released the AGMs at different intervals - let's say 1 minute apart, but on the same course/Nav direction, would the first strikes take out the radars and then the following AGMs would seek new targets, thus trying to achieve a wider strike pattern than just the 3-4 ships hit?
@magnum427 Жыл бұрын
Yes maybe have 2 Migs stay low and wack the Radar site(s)
@Viper87th Жыл бұрын
awsome job guys, I really enjoy your videos !! And it remainds me of my F-16 flight carrier in the Straydogs 87th miss that
@lterrey Жыл бұрын
Great content. Keep it up.
@JaneCobbsHat Жыл бұрын
Video with Grupnik > video with no Grupnik
@WyvernFalken Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@timothyparrucci809 Жыл бұрын
Idk if it's possible to simulate, but I'd really like to see a hypersonic missile vs an airbase or a carrier or something. Supposedly they're almost impossible to shoot down
@usmc1979034 Жыл бұрын
See if you can game it if Ukraine had the same sense of combined arms that we do what their counteroffensive in Donetsk region.
@SigmaJAD Жыл бұрын
I love this stuff. No real interest (apart from aircraft specs and capability) but this content is osm.
@steveincc2068 Жыл бұрын
The AGM-84H/K SLAM-ER, in service with the US and allies for the last 22 years, has a range of about 250 km, and they don't have to be launched from high altitude. Also, they shouldn't all be fired from the same bearing. Spread it out to make defense more difficult. Using 60 is overkill. Since these can target both ships and land targets, take out some of the infrastructure as well. As for the range of the S400 batteries, it would be last-minute detection because these would skim all the way in. I doubt Ukraine would be able to make use of the data-link capability.
@IRONIC1688 Жыл бұрын
How do you designate this thing on this thing?
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
You can;t you just have to dumb fire it and hope for the best.
@Stinger522 Жыл бұрын
That absolute master class comment made me laugh, Cap. Not a master class, an absolute master class. Six Harpoons was really pushing it. Two per plane might've made flying a little easier.
@douchebagpatrol7237 Жыл бұрын
damn one of the pilots flew the mission without his canopy because it came off during take off
@briananthony4044 Жыл бұрын
The Mig-29s used are presumably the ones provided by Nato countries that were updated to fire Nato weapons some years ago.
@stevek9844 Жыл бұрын
You need to add some SEAD aircraft with HARMS to lead the flight and take out the sams. Like it was mentioned, flying in a line abreast formation might have been a better chance for more ships. Great video nonetheless.
@trev8591 Жыл бұрын
Nice mission, Cap. Would have been nice to see the Slava get hit - I assume the missiles don't go for the biggest target?
@92HazelMocha Жыл бұрын
It's a coding issue. The CM802 in the JF17 has the ability to select target size so you can pick either to hit small boats or large boats but AFAIK the DCS harpoon isn't coded that way.
@halidogmanthehero917 Жыл бұрын
If line of sight is great protection, why not fly south so the land south of the harbor acts as a screen to the SAMs to the north?
@patricktho6546 Жыл бұрын
It is harder to defend, since you can't see the missiles. The missiles itself are terrainmasking and have a better chance derecting and locking the ship
@blah163 Жыл бұрын
That may help, but greater distance requires more fuel and increases the opportunity for discovery by other radars, ships, and aircraft.
@lowtdave Жыл бұрын
I've looked but I can't find it if it exists...but has anyone made a HAROP or HARPY drone mod? I love the HARM missiles but I still feel the HAROP is about the most dangerous thing to radars that exists. Thanks for the entertainment
@PeterEvansPeteTakesPictures Жыл бұрын
February 28th: "I wonder if the Ukrainians can hold out for more than a week?" September 6th: "I wonder if the Ukrainians can Taranto the Russian fleet?"
@EdwardPCampbell Жыл бұрын
Oh, for a squadron of RN Swordfish. Don't forget they crippled the Bismarck.
@LondonSteveLee Жыл бұрын
@@EdwardPCampbell They have NATO spec Mig29s now and plenty of Harpoons - the black sea fleet is on borrowed time.
@EdwardPCampbell Жыл бұрын
@@LondonSteveLee It’s all so automated and computer controlled these days. Gone forever is the era of flying by the seat of your pants.
@LondonSteveLee Жыл бұрын
@@EdwardPCampbell Depends on the system you're using, many still require good piloting and precision.
@markiobook8639 Жыл бұрын
@@EdwardPCampbell Fallacy- Bismarck was scuttled as proven by diving on its wreck. Ballard noted that he found no evidence of the internal implosions that occur when a hull that is not fully flooded sink Ballard points out that the hull is in relatively good condition; he states simply that "Bismarck did not implode." Ballard added "we found a hull that appears whole and relatively undamaged by the descent and impact". They concluded that the direct cause of sinking was scuttling: sabotage of engine-room valves by her crew, as claimed by German survivors. William N. Lange, a Woods Hole expert, stated, "You see a large number of shell holes in the superstructure and deck, but not that many along the side, and none below the waterline." The expedition found no penetrations in the main armoured belt, above or below the waterline. James Cameron: British gunnery accuracy was "mediocre at best", partially due to the "miserable" firing conditions and the ship's list to port, with only around 10% of fired medium calibre shots hitting. "The devastation caused by the shellfire combined with the effects of several torpedo hits to overwhelm and defeat the Bismarck, causing the ship to begin sinking due to uncontrollable progressive flooding. The German crew sped the inevitable demise of their ship by initiating scuttling measures." Ludovic Kennedy (who was serving on the destroyer HMS Tartar at the time) "That she would have foundered eventually there can be little doubt; but the scuttling ensured that it was sooner rather than later." Sorry Stringbags being the little underdog that could is just a fairey tale.
@mtebaldi1 Жыл бұрын
I can see your pilots got drunk last night and having a hard time flying
@KJ-ny7je Жыл бұрын
Interesting simulation
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