Crossovers VISUALIZED with the DM-RTA!

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Why do you need a crossover for custom car audio, what does a crossover do? What does it do to the frequencies and output when it is a high pass, a low pass, or a bandpass. It's one thing to tell you, but I want to show you! Let's visualize a crossover!
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@johnnym4400 5 жыл бұрын

And it's actually good to hear someone that really knows what they're talkin about, and doesn't look like a billboard with 500 tattoos on them and talkin like they're half stoned I can't stand that shit I'm glad I found your Channel.. thanks bro it seems like you really know your stuff and looking forward to seeing some new videos from you guys thanks again

@kendavis8046 5 жыл бұрын

Good explanation. Same concept applies when building stereo speakers or monitors for a band. I've built a couple of each of those, though the band monitors at last usage were powered, so the crossover was internal. Thumbs up in any event, and I love both these "tech" videos and the ones that are focused on building a cabinet to fit a space. Thumbs up!

@wal 5 жыл бұрын

Great video! That DM-RTA sure does have a lot of features for installers/tuners/shops!!

@riveralley 5 жыл бұрын

Hello BigDWiz

@PeterFeltersnatch852 5 жыл бұрын

@@riveralley TROLL!!!

@pittmonfrank 2 жыл бұрын

You should make a video on installing passive crossovers.

@JonathanDFielding 5 жыл бұрын

I'm running 2x Jl Audio 300/4 (75Wx4) with a 10x switch built in to achieve active crossover between mid and high WITHOUT any additional equipment. I'm bi-amping both fronts and rear JL Audio C5 6.5" components.

@fatfreesalami 5 жыл бұрын

how do those C5's sound? interested in them. maybe a video?

@jsolis1331 5 жыл бұрын

so are you not using the passive crossovers? have you had any problems with the speakers? any blown tweeters? how does it sound? im scared to go full active and blow my FOCAL tweeters but also not sure if im gonna get all the performance using the passive crossovers.

@R3MIXMODZ 5 жыл бұрын

I dont see why these are not implemented in modern touchscreen radios yet..

@numlockkilla 5 жыл бұрын

Because factory doesn't want you to have control. And I am glad. Helps other companies build products

@JonathanDFielding 5 жыл бұрын

$$.

@ByeEvoX 5 жыл бұрын

General public doesn't care for it

@CarAudioFabrication 5 жыл бұрын

Crossovers? Modern vehicles have crossovers built into the amps/head unit especially for factor "premium" systems. They just aren't adjustable.

@jaygreene4477 5 жыл бұрын

Some aftermarket head units do have what's called a 3 way mode which dose allow you to implement low pass.... band and high pass across 3 different speaker pairs... Alpine and in believe some of the Android head units do have this... unfortunately I have never used this and cant a test to them working well...

@derekhoffman9737 5 жыл бұрын

When it comes to using active crossovers, how will you know when you have to much or to little filtering? What would be a good rule of thumb to fallow when setting crossovers? How can you optimally set the crossovers using the info provided with the speakers? I have never really tried using active crossovers I mostly use passive crossovers for the systems i have installed over the last 4 years.

@janibh 2 жыл бұрын

Great Video. But how to connect " RAINBOW CS 260.30 REFERENCE BIAMPABLE CROSS OVER" please. This has 4 terminals Bi input. Woofer and tweeter has 4 terminals out put. Shall we have to bridge them ? Plz explain. Thank u

@Wwarrens107836 2 жыл бұрын

How do you tell the difference between different component speakers I'm looking at kickers right now and budget is a factor

@ranjitragu 5 жыл бұрын

Mark, we need more build videos man! Great video though.

@limtk55 5 жыл бұрын

Hey Mark, so I have a JL C3 component speakers yet to be installed up in my front doors and I also have the D-6.1200. Is it necessary to install the passive crossovers that comes with the component speakers or can I simply rely on the D-6.1200 inbuilt crossover system? Thanks and big fan...

@34Kuro 5 жыл бұрын

Wanna hear a joke? -accurate sound in car XD

@ninmarioscc 5 жыл бұрын

Would have been nice to see a visual representation of what that actual passive crossover looks like on the RTA like putting in pink noise in that input and take a snapshot of the high and mid output of the passive crossover

@Tech-gc8tt 11 ай бұрын

2015 grand Cherokee, has factory Harmon kardon system. Replacing front speakers with a component set. Woofer and tweeter. Do I need to use the cross over that came with the speakers?

@juancarlosvelasquezx5950 5 жыл бұрын

If I already have tweeters on my truck do I need crossovers

@shdhrjdi 25 күн бұрын

I have a i905 alpine head unit with rca’s running to the R2-A60F 4 channel amplifier and a R2-S653 set of component speakers, do I run all the speaker cables to the cross over , as in just one set of speaker cables from the amp to the cross overs and then wire all the speakers from the crossover, if so do I need to bridge the cables from the amp to the crossover , as it’s a 4 channel amp,if so what size wiring will suit it ,or should I just have the subs from the component speakers wired directly from amp to the speakers and run another speaker to the crossover feeding the mid and the tweeter .Please Help

@Crt5 8 ай бұрын

Does the software only work with Audio Control dsp or can you do any brand with this?

@LuiProductionsCo 2 жыл бұрын

How does a crossover split power. Let's say one set of component speaker with its tweeter is 100 watts rms. Would the whole set get the 100 watts and it would be split like an 80/20 watts split? (80 to mid/20 to tweeter) And would it be okay to run the whole 100 rms to it?

@K03sport 5 жыл бұрын

appreciate the video and confirmation that Audio Control will get my money when it's time to to upgrade my car audio and a HU change just won't cut it or my factory amp dies or both.

@handymadness 5 жыл бұрын

K03sport helix ftw

@peterkay2406 5 жыл бұрын

that stuff looks real nice, always loved audio control stuff

@sdrtech Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@2Fast4YouCL 5 жыл бұрын

Very very good video, very good explenation. have alot to learn

@JP-vh6ub 2 жыл бұрын

So when you have passive cross overs with your component speake should you even touch the HPF,LPF on your amplifier?

@luism8612 Жыл бұрын

I have the same question!

@stevenknutson1521 5 жыл бұрын

Is there a way to demonstrate how passive crossovers are effected by impedance rise, heat and so on? Maybe how accurate the stated x-over points are. Always great videos!!

@ThePelos1980 Жыл бұрын

seriously need your help. Purchased the DM-RTA couple of days ago and arrived today. The rta device won't turn on. I thought maybe the battery is flat. Plugged in and the charging indicator led comes on. Tried to turn the device on again and nothing. After that I realized inside the device is a blue light that always stays on and is not going off even if i press the power button. Couple of minutes later i installed the app and tried to connect it to my Windows laptop and the usb/comm led indicator was blinking but device didn't connect because i can't turned on. Please help

@Themustangturtledude 5 жыл бұрын

Mark! Please do a challenger build! I would like some tips for my car!

@adriant815 5 жыл бұрын

Cool was just looking up active and passive. Thanks

@CarAudioFabrication 5 жыл бұрын

You're welcome, hope this helped visualize some!

@Snarfelle 5 жыл бұрын

I would like to see a video on how to install 2 4 ohm speakers (door + dash) using a woofer and a coax mid driver tweeter combo.. where the amplifier only sees 4 ohm...

@gilberttan7244 3 жыл бұрын

hi, what if I have a 3 way speaker? how do I setup the wiring and what crossover do I use?

@jasonmyjak5117 5 жыл бұрын

How do I check for ground resistance using multimeter?To Make sure location for ground is good.. Thank you

@andrewmullins8417 5 жыл бұрын

Hey awesome channel!! I'm just getting seriously in to audio and was wondering about in dash EQs and benefits or maybe a video just needing a little guidance?? Thanks

@peternilen7007 5 жыл бұрын

What about doubling the crossover fq? Example: sub (12") 20-50hz woofer(6,5") 30 - 500 (saying the woofer can handle 30hz) or sub 20-40 woofer 40-500 or sub 20-50 woofer 50-500? Pros cons? Focal es165 Kx3

@antonamalfi 5 жыл бұрын

Nice 👍🏼 … would a passive crossover from a good speaker brand like Focal have a slight bass roll off to protect the woofers? If so at what frequency should you start blending in your subwoofer?

@andyc5612 5 жыл бұрын

Are active or passive crossovers best for your car?

@ZylarEdits 5 жыл бұрын

A must have!

@BRAZENCHROME 5 жыл бұрын

I wish I could afford this may be for my birthday I'll get it LOL

@nikkilalexander7015 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Mark. Can I mount crossover close to amplifier (back of my car) instead of mounting close to specker ?

@jsolis1331 5 жыл бұрын

Hello Mark, keep up the good videos, i have a question, what would be better? to run active or bi amp? i have a set of FOCAL components like the ones in this video and really want to get the best performance out of them without damaging the equipment. could you please make a video explaining a little more detailed about bi amp on the passive crossovers or maybe do a demo with the RTA to see the performance on the speakers bi amped vs active? again i love your videos and hope to see one on this subject thank you.

@zayres29 5 жыл бұрын

How do you feel about the sound quality from micro style amplifiers vs their full size counterparts? Not just audio control but a lot of companies are coming out with micro amps and they are priced pretty reasonably and I was just wondering if sound quality suffers for them to be able to sell them so cheaply. Thanks

@CarAudioFabrication 5 жыл бұрын

The SQ on the AudioControl micro amps is great, there are quite a few SQ cars that are running multiple ACM (micro) amps as they allow for a lot of flexibility in system design. Im using one in my Grand Cherokee install as well.

@shawnwillis8315 3 жыл бұрын

How do you feel about focal

@juniorzunior18 5 жыл бұрын

Hey i dont see a vid on lc2 audiocontrol hook up and best place to tap speaker lines please an love you vids

@nath_tayl0rr 5 жыл бұрын

I’ve got a question I’ve got a factory system and it’s got original mids and a separate tweeter would that imply it’s got a factory crossover or not??? And if so would you recommend adding a crossover and running new wires for both kids and highs? If anyone is interested the vehicle is a 2010 Ford Fiesta uk spec

@jbird3223 5 жыл бұрын

Why only low and high pass? When you say high pass, high pass can start out at 500hz. Wouldn't 500hz be to much for a tweeter? Aren't most tweeter's crossover point start around 2500hz? Why is it not broke up as low,mid and high? High pass is a combination of mid and high?Just wondering. I have an all Focal system and Pioneer head unit with Pioneer 5 channel class D amp and wow those Focal speakers are amazing.

@393strokedcoupe 5 жыл бұрын

Have you guys ever done any installs on a 2016 and up Infiniti Q50? I have a 2018 with the six speaker base stereo system. I want to keep the stock radio (not that there is any upgrades other than Chinese) and install the tweeters, mid-range 3 1/2 and 6 1/2 mid woofer in the stock front door locations and coaxials in the rear doors. I'm also considering a sub in the trunk. Any advice on DSP and amplifier? Do you know of any aftermarket that can help with door chimes and the rest of factory chimes, voice and so on? Thanks for everything you do to help out the community.

@brendcloete 5 жыл бұрын

How would you use the audiocontrol d6-1200 to setup that exact system using the biamp crossover or completely remove the Focal crossover

@tamerelnady 5 жыл бұрын

Need more videos in future for the new testing device I have 3sixty.3 and RTA mic and its software, and some SMD gear DD-1 and CC-1, is it enough as a start to tune subwoofer and a dual pairs of RF components and 2 mid range from focal running active along with 4 amps for low, mid bass, mid range and TWT? Do you recommend any thing else?

@madarcturian 5 жыл бұрын

Great vid! How do you like those focals?

@JAY-JAYcra 5 жыл бұрын

Finish up the car system build

@CreamyCornCob 5 жыл бұрын

The fab kitchen needs more spatulas and oven mitts.

@CreamyCornCob 5 жыл бұрын

@@gianstevens7918 Yeah right lol

@fatfreesalami 5 жыл бұрын

you shut your mouth Doug!

@zaggasworld1801 5 жыл бұрын

@@CreamyCornCob go back over to soundman where you learn nothing & wait 6 months to see a finished woofer box

@whowhatisthat88 5 жыл бұрын

Technically Doug is making tree houses now so I would say marks kitchen is a better place to cook up stuff

@Playreadygamers 5 жыл бұрын

hey man, take care of yourself. Youre getting bigger. i hope its because of the gym

@6980869 5 жыл бұрын

Was this comment REALLY necessary? Sheesh

@Fusionmatt20 5 жыл бұрын

Hi so I have a 2004 chevy blazer with a jvc kd-r790bt with rockford fosgate 3 way speakers and since installing the speakers and dual ten inch mtx subs. Anyways my problem is in short that ever since I put the new speakers in that I crank them up too loud and it over heats my head unit and they start to sound like shit. My solution is to wire up a second amp one for the actual car speakers. But my problem to this solution is that I only have one set of RCAS on my head unit so I was wondering if there is any amp that allows me to run the wires from the head unit for the speakers to the amp and then run wires from the amp to the speakers? Amy advice would be much appreciated as the new speakers sound really good until the head unit over heats.

@Keepmovingkeepliving 5 жыл бұрын

Man when said other smart people I thought you were going to say excluding Doug from sound man I would have died.

@karateprabha166 5 жыл бұрын

what is deference active and passive and which is best.i have alpine pxa h 800 and speaker focal k2 165

@SaGeMitis 5 жыл бұрын

Not sure exactly what the difference is but active is better

@chrisvinicombe9947 5 жыл бұрын

Fun gadget 👍 those focal speakers are sexy

@lfernandez9194 5 жыл бұрын

Very good video

@CarAudioFabrication 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@timscholten2373 5 жыл бұрын

So i have 200watt front speakers and my radio can only support 50watt per channel. Would this mean the quality is worse than a 50watt speaker with a 50 watt radio?

@dustinpatterson9104 5 жыл бұрын

What is your rms ratings on each speaker then rms ratings on each speaker output on headunit. Most say 50x4 but that's your peak wattage not your rms ratings. But yes it sounds like your not getting full potential outta your speakers and should go with a amplifier to correctly power them and fine tune them to your liking.

@erikflores3929 5 жыл бұрын

Hey. I have a question. I've ordered some Skar Audio VXI 6.5 component speakers unfortunately i'm running into an issue with them... The issue that I'm having is with connecting the crossovers to my alpine mrx-f30. When I have the crossovers connected to my amp I'm limited on how loud I can turn up my radio. The amp stops playing any sounds when I turn up the radio to about 25-30. This issue only happens when I turn up the radio with the crossovers connected. Now I've tried inputting the crossover signal directly to my factory radio(by the way, I have a 2016 Tacoma non-JBL) and I can turn it up without having any issues but once I connect it to the amp. I get to about 25-30 on the volume and the amp shuts down. I've also tried removing the speakers from the crossover and turn up the radio with the crossover only connected to the amp, and still.. It shuts down even though the speakers aren't even connected to the crossovers. Any thoughts on this issue?

@FlameHerer702 5 жыл бұрын

Erik Flores this is a Toyota issue

@giuseppecastaldi1390 5 жыл бұрын

Bellissimo Channel :)

@PANTYEATR1 5 жыл бұрын

great video as usual. my question is when running the crossover, either active, on the amplifier or passive, do you have to tune on a flat equalizer setting? how does the "loud" setting effect this tuning? thanks in advance

@CarAudioFabrication 5 жыл бұрын

You can use both eq and crossovers together. Crossovers are kind of "set it and forget it" where as eq is a major part of tuning and adjusting. "Loud" setting is usually just an eq boost on a certain range of frequencies. I avoid using it.

@PANTYEATR1 5 жыл бұрын

@@CarAudioFabrication i need to clarify, when tuning the sound system you start with the EQ at the flat setting. once the system is tuned at the flat EQ setting should the system only be played with a flat EQ? or can i set the EQ to rock, rap etc.?

@fronx7975 5 жыл бұрын

@@PANTYEATR1 Okay I understand what your saying, the settings are at the right levels now but you want to add that "loud". Only problem you may experience clipping and distortion because you created your own EQ when tuning the amp. "loud" feature on head units is a preset with only is a small preamp with 15 watts per channel. Now that you have a 4 channel and a mono amp I assume, they are going to give you that power you need. see how it sounds with the extra head unit tune, remember it's all preferences of how you like it to sound.

@PANTYEATR1 5 жыл бұрын

@@fronx7975 thanks for your reply. I'm asking about the EQ settings, when tuning the system and after, do you have to stay with the flat EQ settings?

@galaxycochin Жыл бұрын

@@PANTYEATR1 yes that is recommended , but no harm in trying,,make small adjustments and check first.

@paulperez7439 5 жыл бұрын

What would be the best amp for the best sound ???

@Mr215Alive 5 жыл бұрын

In my opinion Rockford Fosgate makes the best amplifiers. Get the Punch series though because of the muted, delayed turn on. And I would always recommend having a second amp for my subwoofer

@paulperez7439 5 жыл бұрын

Mr215Alive✌🏻👆🏻🖐🏻🤙🏻 The setup I have in my truck now has two amps but I wanted to take one out so I can have space but I guess not 😂 so two amps thank you for your advice

@drewone08 2 жыл бұрын

Install my system and that will answer all my questions. Lol.

@leroycolejr6336 5 жыл бұрын

is it good to have both a active crossover and passive crossover

@numlockkilla 5 жыл бұрын

Ur slopes will be added. Very sharp roll offs.

@leroycolejr6336 5 жыл бұрын

Mike Eral what if your radio have built in slopes

@RockfordF150Bass 5 жыл бұрын

If your running both you can adjust the roll off through your Dsp.

@21azs18 2 жыл бұрын

I love you🙏👍🌹

@JP-vh6ub 2 жыл бұрын

Or do you just completely rely on the passive crossover to do all this for you

@pleite567 5 жыл бұрын

I wish i had the money for al those goodies

@comardelgado 5 жыл бұрын

Do components crossovers are bandpass? I have a set of JBL's p660c components and I'm wondering if I need to set the amplifier crossover to high pass or full range.

@Rolling_Thunder_Bass 5 жыл бұрын

Typically component crossovers that are included in speaker sets are "tuned" to the speakers that they are included with. Thus it is most likely unneeded to set crossovers on the radio or amplifier in addition to the passive crossovers, as that can cause some unwanted reactions to the sound. So typically you would set the amplifier to full range. Additionally, most of the time the passive crossover boxes only act as frequency filters, but on many higher end systems they have zobel networks built in to make the different sized speakers sound like they are playing at the same volume.

@JacobFrey 5 жыл бұрын

@@Rolling_Thunder_Bass Wouldn't you at least apply the amplifier's high pass crossover to the components, assuming there is a subwoofer in the system? If you make a high pass using either an amplifier dial or a DSP, I wouldn't think there would be undesired effects. Honest questions here, thanks. A lot of basic upgraded systems do this. Example - I used to set an electronic high pass coming out of my aftermarket head unit going to a coax speaker (that had a built in crossover). My home theater receiver filters frequencies before sending signal to my 2-way "component" speakers. Would you say this is a good practice if done in the digital domain, but not on an amplifier's built-in dial crossover?

@Rolling_Thunder_Bass 5 жыл бұрын

@@JacobFrey Most passive crossover boxes consist of a high pass filter on the tweeter channel, a band pass filter on the mid, and if present separate band pass filters on the mid bass channels. From my own personal experience, most of the passive crossover boxes are designed to work on a full range channel. The crossover circuits for mids and highs have high pass filters built in them already, so by enabling the high pass filters on the amplifier, you are applying two different exponential roll off functions to the audio signal which can combine and potentially reduce frequencies at a higher point than what was intended. Thus you might cancel or reduce some of the sounds that you actually wanted and potentially create a hole in your music. With regard to coaxial speakers, in my experience it is very common that coaxial speakers do not apply any filter to the mid-range cone. Many coaxial speakers only apply a high pass filter to their tweeter in the form of a capacitor which is soldered on to the back of the connection points on the mid-range, or the tweeter itself. These speakers typically do benefit from the assistance of an additional high pass filter to block out the bass that should really only be played on a subwoofer. There are always exceptions to rule though, I have seen component sets that can be mounted as coaxials but they still had separate crossover boxes.

@JacobFrey 5 жыл бұрын

@@Rolling_Thunder_Bass Excellent. I appreciate your response and agree that having any redundancy in your crossover or crossovers wouldn't be a good idea. I beg to disagree though about component crossover boxes having a bandpass filter on whatever is the "woofiest" woofer". In my experience, those drivers are on low pass filter from the manufacturer - Unless you are talking about an ultra high-end speaker system. (I agree with your assessment of coaxial speakers, likely not filtering the woofer at all). The speaker manufacturer can't assume a subwoofer will be present and shut out low bass content from reaching the components. You have to limit the low bass input to your woofer by using either a DSP crossover, a head unit's crossover setting, an external amplifier's high pass filter, or an inline bass blocker. For the question regarding the JBL p660c, in my opinion, Carlos definitely should configure the high pass crossover on his amplifier going to the components, because the bass drivers are otherwise only a low pass filter.

@comardelgado 5 жыл бұрын

@@Rolling_Thunder_Bass thank you so much for the very useful info!

@daviancampbell3687 5 жыл бұрын

Hey bro can you send me that pink noise ?

@AmplifiedCarAudio 5 жыл бұрын

Which do you prefer, active or passive crossovers?

@numlockkilla 5 жыл бұрын

Active wherever possible

@CarAudioFabrication 5 жыл бұрын

No preference. Depends on the application.

@Rolling_Thunder_Bass 5 жыл бұрын

Active crossovers give you a lot of control and will typically sound better if set correctly, most enthusiasts will prefer active systems. Passive crossovers are more "set it and forget it" but can have some unintended consequences with phase angle changes.

@TrickieD808 3 жыл бұрын

If I’m running a 4 channel amp bridged to passive crossovers, can I still calibrate the mids and highs using an SMD CC1? Would I turn off the crossover portion on the amp if just using the passive crossovers to do the work? Setup: Skar RP 75.4 with Skar SPX 65Cs. Thank you!!

@luism8612 Жыл бұрын

Did you ever figure it out I have the same question plz help

@dirt118ec 5 жыл бұрын

Wondering if I could just pay you to build me a Box for too 10"inch fosgate p3d2 . For a 2013 Chrysler 300c and just send it through ups. Here to me in California

@SeanColey 5 жыл бұрын

I don't think he builds boxes for clients but he does design custom box layouts that you can purchase on his website. With the drafted layout design, you can take the PDF print-out into a local car shop (one that does box builds) for them to do the labor. It may be a solution worth looking into.