Cuba's Underground Gaming Network

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Cuba has joined the global network, but high prices have driven Havana's citizens to construct their own.
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@Qrofol
@Qrofol 6 жыл бұрын
Citywide LAN party? Sounds cool as hell.
@MadJackChurchill1312
@MadJackChurchill1312 6 жыл бұрын
Citizens making an open source intranet solution for everyone. THAT is innovation.
@sethmweber
@sethmweber 6 жыл бұрын
This is what true gaming journalism looks like, not sitting in an office 95 percent of the time typing press releases and talking to PR people. Journalism is going out into the world and connecting with people and telling everyone about those connections, and you have done that splendidly.
@rokedurisimo4794
@rokedurisimo4794 6 жыл бұрын
I am proud to be one of the creators of snet
@prestigedoggy7624
@prestigedoggy7624 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine getting in a argument with someone in Cuba online and saying “I know where u live” and then walking a few blocks to their house
@bucharestbiketraffic
@bucharestbiketraffic 6 жыл бұрын
Jesus - Connecting People...
@StrifePulse
@StrifePulse 5 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment
@Ram-lr6ud
@Ram-lr6ud 5 жыл бұрын
I'm Cuban (from a different city) and this is all true. I used to play WoW with homemade antenas and usb-wifi. It was really a great thing, because since the community on the servers is so small, you can actually get to meet them in person and have a lot of fun. So it had the benefits of gaming without all the social struggles it can bring. We also had a social-network called "the social" with no more than 100 active users, where, once again, you felt more safe and warm than when you use facebook.
@indigo5577
@indigo5577 5 жыл бұрын
That sounds really cool, I wish it was like that in my community
@gahjaggshia1944
@gahjaggshia1944 5 жыл бұрын
I use the social too r u from Holguín ???
@GermanAnimeStriker
@GermanAnimeStriker 4 жыл бұрын
The only Private Server Blizzard wouldnt be able to take offline xD
@alamosh
@alamosh 4 жыл бұрын
"Downloading one game here, 1 GB..." *Dramatic hand gesture* "... Long time." As someone who grew up with shitty dial up from the mid '90s, I completely felt his pain.
@Mass40KGaming
@Mass40KGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Somebody ship these guys a HDD full of games!
@brunovaz
@brunovaz 6 жыл бұрын
Next: North Korea Underground gaming community Hardcore independent journalism
@sluggdiddyyddidgguls
@sluggdiddyyddidgguls 6 жыл бұрын
(drew has already been to north korea in case you weren't aware)
@dev.matiGOD
@dev.matiGOD 4 жыл бұрын
17:00 -Translator: "Somebody travels to anoter country, they buy games.." - Cuban: "a lot of them (games) are pirated" a good translation there
@MeAuntieNora
@MeAuntieNora 6 жыл бұрын
"The alcohol in a paper bag of connectivity." Brilliant as always, guys.
@kiaayo
@kiaayo 6 жыл бұрын
"It's not really a felony. Per se."
@stoutlager6325
@stoutlager6325 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you know, there's always differences between what the letter of the law says and what local law enforcement have the will or motivation to enforce. Sometimes, and this appears to be the case in Cuba, law as written is not quite compatible with the local infrastructure and economy, so blind spots form to accommodate. Growing pains of new tech entering an old system.
@PEST__
@PEST__ 6 жыл бұрын
As a Cuban that came to America years ago I am happy to see how Cuban s are very smart and work around real word issues thank you for spotlighting my Beautiful country And the amazing people that live there
@Frankzsyztem
@Frankzsyztem 6 жыл бұрын
I was born in Cuba and I've been going pretty regularly. Last time I went was 3 months ago after a 5 year hiatus. I was so impressed by the networks my cousins and their friends had setup in our small town , Just so they could play Call of Duty and DOTA. Thanks for making this.
@napalmman8292
@napalmman8292 4 жыл бұрын
Foreigner: I can't access to internet Cuban: Call Jesus for help Foreigner: Wait...What?!
@GTK_Aztech
@GTK_Aztech 6 жыл бұрын
This is truly incredible. It really shows how us in the US so easily take our access to something as ubiquitous as the internet for granted. Power to our Cuban gaming brethren!
@arrilocknewmoon9620
@arrilocknewmoon9620 4 жыл бұрын
16:36 He says "Remember when they got caught selling a gun?" Kinda glad they didnt translate that lol
@mbe102
@mbe102 6 жыл бұрын
Damn, is there any way to help or donate to SNET? I've got a Diploma in Network Admin, and 14 years in IT, I'd love to help these guys. Thats a beautiful thing they're doing.
@ajballa555
@ajballa555 6 жыл бұрын
id be down to buy a 2tb hdd and jus send them a shit ton of lan games as well
@Maldito011316
@Maldito011316 6 жыл бұрын
It is really freaking awesome
@iNerdier
@iNerdier 6 жыл бұрын
Likewise, I would love to help.
@Naher1mne1utub
@Naher1mne1utub 5 жыл бұрын
in russian in late 90-early 2000 almost every little town had some sort of local nets like this
@TheFlatronify
@TheFlatronify 4 жыл бұрын
This video really shows the importance of LAN capable games and being able to host your own servers. Not everyone in this world is privileged to be connected 24/7 to someones 'cloud'. I hope game developers will someday come back to the good old times of LAN games!
@zahariaconstantin8690
@zahariaconstantin8690 4 жыл бұрын
The BorgChat is a chat made in Romania. Nice to see a Romanian software running in Cuba. Last update for the software is from 2013 :)
@JamesSmith-ui1iu
@JamesSmith-ui1iu 4 жыл бұрын
It reminds me so much on the days in East Germany before the wall fell. I remember the village priest traveling to West Germany buying two satellite receiver and antennas with the money collected from a small neighborhood. The electricians in the neighborhood built the main station and the signal distributors, the welders built the tower and the rest helped digging trenches for the cables. We connected about 150 houses with West German TV. For those who don't know, yes that was perfectly legal in East Germany after around 1988. Great collective work, people helped each other because they had to. The wall fell, capitalism arrived and by about 1992 many of the neighbors got into fights and arguments. Some neighbors did well after the wall fell, some did ok, some had a hard time. Jealousy took over and the spirit of helping each other died quickly. If you needed something you could just go and buy it, rather than asking a friend or neighbor.
@dreammfyre
@dreammfyre 6 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the late 90s/very early 00s, when having access to something like cable or ADSL(with a flat rate!) was almost magical.
@seemaverma4616
@seemaverma4616 4 жыл бұрын
Man, playing with your neighborhood friends on a local network where new games are shared by one device to many devices in copies is just a beautiful nostalgia. There is no better gaming experience than playing with your homies.
@crckdns
@crckdns 4 жыл бұрын
only 27ms from node to client? wow ok, I thought it would be slower.. that is faster than our connections 20 years ago..and this is everything "self-made" ! I'm impressed :)
@texanplayer7651
@texanplayer7651 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus in 30 AC : "Drink this wine, for this is my blood, and eat this bread, for this is my body" Jesus in the 21st century : "Come to my place, for this is my WiFi tower, and join this game, for this is my LAN party"
@rcurielh
@rcurielh 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus is a genius. MIT should give him a free scholarship!
@marcelof3530
@marcelof3530 4 жыл бұрын
16:30 "te acuerdas cuando estaban vendiendo una pistola?" xD
@jonathanhestroffer4469
@jonathanhestroffer4469 4 жыл бұрын
Probably still faster than Comcast + AT&T
@eannatone
@eannatone 6 жыл бұрын
This is amazing on so many levels as an I.T. person.
@DouglasButner
@DouglasButner 4 жыл бұрын
This is pretty incredible. As a non-gamer web developer, I can see these networks being used for things closer to the "craigslist" clone, for markets, community decisions, meetings, etc.
@rahulraj39
@rahulraj39 4 жыл бұрын
As an IT guy my self I am really impress my heart felt numb
@fatjesus1584
@fatjesus1584 6 жыл бұрын
I LOVE homegrown stuff like this. Just community cooperating and putting the work in so they can hang out and so stuff together.
@metalsnakezero
@metalsnakezero 6 жыл бұрын
No matter what, people will find a way. I'm happy, as a part Cuban, that my people are this resourceful.
@MadJackChurchill1312
@MadJackChurchill1312 6 жыл бұрын
metalsnakezero You absolutely should be. Incredible people power.
@MrAuggiemetalo
@MrAuggiemetalo 4 жыл бұрын
We have it good in the US ... I don't want to hear shit the next time you cant get a signal in some space or your own house. These guys are innovative, and could have been making money but they are working together to grow. Cheers guys this made my day.
@ClothMap
@ClothMap 6 жыл бұрын
Legendas em português! Subtítulos en español!
@luccaskammer
@luccaskammer 6 жыл бұрын
Cloth Map os fãs do Brasil agradecem! 🇺🇸 Brazilian fans say thank you!
@geoandre3082
@geoandre3082 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that!
@slavickvega8461
@slavickvega8461 6 жыл бұрын
Gracias por los subtitulos! Tienen muy buen contenido.
@MrEladren
@MrEladren 6 жыл бұрын
That is awesome Drew!, now i can share clothmap with way more people!
@juliusalimari
@juliusalimari 6 жыл бұрын
Melhor canal do youtube! Best KZfaq Channel!
@geoandre3082
@geoandre3082 6 жыл бұрын
I loved this one, i want to go to Cuba, their sense of community is incredible.
@codeshard
@codeshard 6 жыл бұрын
We (I'm Cuban, I live in the east of the country) also have a lot of communitu based services: such and RSS Feeds, Indexers, microblogging, social networks, FTPS, collaborative apps stores, and we had our own, let's say, Netflix, mostly for free or for about 2 USD a month.
@pepegalvan_
@pepegalvan_ 4 жыл бұрын
This history almost made me cry... is amazing seeing how people help each other even for a “simple thing” as gaming, I’m stunned!
@theson.6952
@theson.6952 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly, this is without a doubt one of the most fascinating things I’ve ever seen in my entire life.
@michaelinglis8516
@michaelinglis8516 4 жыл бұрын
It's a shame they are in a position to have to do that but it should be a huge source of Cuban pride that they have become so self sufficient. Whether connecting to each other on computers or building a vehicle out of an old run down washing machine they'll find a way. Imagine what they could accomplish without all the restrictions. But then again limitations breed creativity.
@lolstrup
@lolstrup 5 жыл бұрын
This was awesome. Before they had widespread local networks like this, there used to be "publishers" of a weekly or monthly USB HDD that would be passed around the town (duplicated along the way), loaded with all sorts of good stuff from the outside world. Movies, TV shows, games, news, books - all kinds of media! The principle behind the internet can truly find its way into any society.
@zxvadcsfbh
@zxvadcsfbh 5 жыл бұрын
This is amazing. I'd really love to learn more about the technical side of this. These Cubans are building stuff I always dreamed about. Decentralised mesh networks over metropolitan areas. In theory, impossible to control or shutdown so long as you can keep physically building more nodes.
@redromina
@redromina 6 жыл бұрын
I am Cuban, born in the US. Finally went to Cuba for the first time and documented the whole thing. It was SURREAL. Glad you liked the country of my people. If anyone wants to know more about visiting Cuba, feel free to ask me questions! (:
@metalsnakezero
@metalsnakezero 6 жыл бұрын
This may be a bit much to ask but is it possible to trace family lines back to Cuba or is it not possible? I only know my Grandma was from Cuba and my DNA test showed my family line came from Spain but that much I know.
@justinw1384
@justinw1384 6 жыл бұрын
How was it to travel there? Anything to be aware of as far as travel to and from the US?
@mrmook3001
@mrmook3001 6 жыл бұрын
How would one import one of those old cars back to the US?
@latinsizer
@latinsizer 6 жыл бұрын
I really like when you cover the gaming cultures of different countries. It is a really unique and refreshing content from the usual 'let's play' and 'review videos' that inundates KZfaq. I can tell the hard work you put into your videos, as they are really high quality and looked like they could easily be part of a televised show.
@kvk1
@kvk1 6 жыл бұрын
This is the best Cloth Map video yet. Genuinely fascinating stuff, and beautiful country.
@Perjoss
@Perjoss 6 жыл бұрын
If the network isn't connected to the internet I guess that would mean they are running some kind of World of Warcraft private server?
@MadJackChurchill1312
@MadJackChurchill1312 6 жыл бұрын
Sergio Xisto *Blizzard helicopters fly overhead*
@Barkend3
@Barkend3 6 жыл бұрын
It is a private server running the Mists of Pandaria expansion (was live between 2012 and 2014). At 6:26 you can see them doing a battleground, an end-game PvP content, with level 90 characters. This was the level cap during the MoP expansion.
@ThiagoQuintoMartins
@ThiagoQuintoMartins 6 жыл бұрын
Yes. The same for other games.
@codeshard
@codeshard 6 жыл бұрын
We (I'm Cuban, connected to one SNET on the east of the country) use to build our own private servers, if we can't download a decent private server from the Internet. We use TrinityCore Open Source MMO Framework, from GitHub. It's free and open source.
@neilb3553
@neilb3553 5 жыл бұрын
Ozkar Garcell u guys got any vanilla servers?
@alongjunor7729
@alongjunor7729 4 жыл бұрын
they gain the knowledge of computer networking because of computer games. that's how i thought myself about computer..because of games.. thanks dad for our first windows95 pc that you bought for us..it is the greatest gift that i have in my life. :)
@ricudosama674
@ricudosama674 5 жыл бұрын
This guy was going to cry because of this: 12:55 This situation really makes me want to cry too!
@RobinOttens
@RobinOttens 6 жыл бұрын
This was fascinating. Also, the irony of calling this an 'underground' network made me chuckle
@jeremymunoz9905
@jeremymunoz9905 4 жыл бұрын
Man, this actually made my eyes water up. People could do really beautiful things when we come together. We seriously need to know who the admins are cause I'm down to send them some networking stuff.
@Silenthe
@Silenthe 4 жыл бұрын
I love how they say "cheating"
@RazielCuts
@RazielCuts 6 жыл бұрын
I'd say this is your most interesting video yet, Drew. So fascinating to see what the internet is in other countries, and what we take for granted. I look the resourcefulness of starting your own internet, and being a non profit, for games service with the local community around you.
@vincentwarte4435
@vincentwarte4435 4 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is, the 4G Etecsa network in Havana has a higher average bandwidth than the 4G network in Germany. Unfortunately, it's expensive as hell.
@amyperez5527
@amyperez5527 6 жыл бұрын
I was born in Cuba and I'm so so happy to see what you guys have created! I'd love to play dota 2 over there
@beattheovenludwigvan
@beattheovenludwigvan 4 жыл бұрын
the saying "life finds a way" really is true
@juliusalimari
@juliusalimari 6 жыл бұрын
That´s an incredible Journalistic work. Amazing how they created their own network.
@LukeExists
@LukeExists 6 жыл бұрын
Incredible! These videos just keep getting better and better.
@fakuu1225
@fakuu1225 4 жыл бұрын
16:30 "you can buy anything in this page, a car... te das cuenta de que estan vendiendo una pistola?" traduction: "u know theyre selling a gun?"
@romagnolo
@romagnolo 6 жыл бұрын
Man, I love your work! I only wish you the best! Hugs from Brazil.
@Wladislav
@Wladislav 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome work, Drew and Joey!
@surrealengineering7884
@surrealengineering7884 4 жыл бұрын
These guys really deserve a lot of respect, making the best of a bad situation. Doing what they can for a better tomorow. This makes you really appreciate freedom of speech!
@RollingExistence
@RollingExistence 4 жыл бұрын
Great content. Hopefully these guys don't get in any trouble. I bicycle toured for a couple weeks in Cuba back in January and it was a wonderful country, the people were fantastic.
@cubanbloodYT
@cubanbloodYT 5 жыл бұрын
this video bring me back to when i was on that network, thank so much bro for this video...
@6shnuggle6
@6shnuggle6 4 жыл бұрын
This is community spirit. All those issue you see around the world can be solved a lot if a community get together and help each other achieve a goal (grow food, farms, security, buildings, sports, just about anything). Unfortunately we live in world where social media keeps us close digitally as long as we stay away from each other physically.
@Atarix777
@Atarix777 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video, awesome project. This remainds me of the late 90's... We had very often a 150 person LAN running, and it was fun as hell. These guys are living my past, and somehow i really felt like beeing again a teenager while watching this :D
@Skyrilla
@Skyrilla 4 жыл бұрын
Well that was interesting. Almost looks cyberpunky, buncha internet cables and radio towers poking out amidst palm trees and old Havana cars and streetlights, DIY weird hub/DSL/cable hybrid internet and networking
@tetragrammaton3
@tetragrammaton3 6 жыл бұрын
10:10 The legend of zelda breath of the wild on the PC. Is he running dolphin? edit: Zelda at 14:24 Nice to see our cuban brothers getting their game on. :)
@leonblittle226
@leonblittle226 4 жыл бұрын
Would be nice to know how they run the DHCP/DNS for 20,000 connections off what looks like some really old kit. You feel the sudden need to ship them a ton of ex-corporate networking gear which might be getting long in the tooth here but would be a 10fold upgrade on what they have going.
@williamliu9133
@williamliu9133 4 жыл бұрын
Thats insane... Citizen powered mesh network
@ToyRifle
@ToyRifle 6 жыл бұрын
I fondly remember the good old times with LAN and Warez, in Scandinavia. This is amazing!
@chdreturns
@chdreturns 6 жыл бұрын
Cubans are resourceful people... Honestly I have them pegged as a hotspot of invention.
@cybrpypr
@cybrpypr 4 жыл бұрын
This was a great documentary. Thanks for showing how people's enginuity and necessity for communication and technology has made it possible for the people of Havana to have access.
@teekomeeko
@teekomeeko 6 жыл бұрын
It's a beautiful thing they are putting together for gamers. Cuban peoples' technical mastery over what limited resources they can scrounge together is always amazing.
@Cptn-Coconut
@Cptn-Coconut 6 жыл бұрын
This is really impressive, the lengths to which these people go, just to be able to connect with each other and enjoy their passion for gaming is really something else. Shows just how resourceful and united gamers can be, even in the most restrictive environments.
@pedroviskinho
@pedroviskinho 6 жыл бұрын
This is so underrated, really great quality content!
@fragonard
@fragonard 6 жыл бұрын
Drew, this was fascinating, keep up the great work!
@JaminGray47
@JaminGray47 6 жыл бұрын
This is incredibly resourceful and fascinating. Thanks, Drew!
@TheSonicWafflez
@TheSonicWafflez 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Documentary Drew, the homemade internet section was fascinating.
@TurtleSauceGaming
@TurtleSauceGaming 4 жыл бұрын
Hope to see Cuba one day. Be cool to see this for myself.
@tatwo_
@tatwo_ 6 жыл бұрын
Ah... Reminds me of early 2000's when me and my friends were having LAN parties. It was always pain in the ass to get things working for everyone.
@Dave_Nosdivad
@Dave_Nosdivad 6 жыл бұрын
OK! I'll stop to complain about internet in Brazil and Australia. GREAT WORK DREW!!!
@TwodeeTwodimensional
@TwodeeTwodimensional 6 жыл бұрын
Their whole internet situation is fascinating. Looking forward to the rest of the series.
@leonar2xd121
@leonar2xd121 6 жыл бұрын
Buen video,uno de los mejores q eh visto sobre nuestra red ,saludos de parte de un integrante de Snet !
@meskliniteFM
@meskliniteFM 6 жыл бұрын
Such great work guys! Can't wait for the next ones :)
@geogmz8277
@geogmz8277 6 жыл бұрын
I cannot even imagine what a Broadcast storm on that Network will be lol
@thelazylionsden8539
@thelazylionsden8539 4 жыл бұрын
so basically they started with LAN parties , OG's :)
@burritobowl0190
@burritobowl0190 4 жыл бұрын
like first 5 seconds immediately got a good designed vibe
@charliep1
@charliep1 6 жыл бұрын
Great job guys! This was very interesting!
@fp2231
@fp2231 4 жыл бұрын
Dude has a rig that can run ARMA 3? I am hella impressed.
@tookarrowknee
@tookarrowknee 4 жыл бұрын
At 16:37, Roberto says "Te acuerdas cuando estaban vendiendo una pistola (...)" this translates to "do you remember when they were sealing a pistol? What a fucking nice video man, kinda wish i could go to Cuba and leave a pen drive with 500 gbs worth of games. like baldurs gate, mass effect 1 and such.
@yungcommi
@yungcommi 4 жыл бұрын
No profit gaming. I love that.
@KevinCombs1980
@KevinCombs1980 6 жыл бұрын
Another fascinating video! Thanks Drew!
@abdelestrada7429
@abdelestrada7429 5 жыл бұрын
I love my country Cuba thanks for this documentary asere i really like it
@CassyCZ
@CassyCZ 6 жыл бұрын
Wow Drew, this was maybe the most interesting one yet!
@WampaLord
@WampaLord 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, Drew, I loved it!
@VerlixStone
@VerlixStone 6 жыл бұрын
This is really outstanding stuff. To have such love for your community is something really special is rare. Making me even more proud to be half Cuban.
@TweakedTay
@TweakedTay 6 жыл бұрын
Cuba is a fantastic country. If anyone here ever gets the chance to visit, don't hesitate!
@Jutturna
@Jutturna 6 жыл бұрын
i love how roberto refers to trolling/griefing/etc. on the snet server as "shitting." some concepts are universal, i guess
@threehorses444
@threehorses444 6 жыл бұрын
JuttARN I'm sure he meant 'cheating'
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