If the aberration of "classic plus" were to happen, that would be a big slap in the face for all the OG players. Fuck "classic plus"

Warcraft is MASSIVE on Twitch?!? Who'd'a thought it!

i wish there would be more famous horde sreamer

This did not age well Sadge

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he was on the fast track to being the best wow you tuber of all time

Me too. Just thinking about how he's no longer here makes me sad, despite the fact that I ever really knew him.

I was about to make a comment saying it's cool that MadSeason got a shoutout from Bellular.

To the tippy top

Yes!! Our bullcorn beacon of hope

He was cool until he had a clip of him on a private server leading up to classic's release and he was in a guild that openly advertised as being a whites only, white supremacist guild while I played the same pserver.

@@whitaker_ umm link it

I agree but I really dislike the way Blizzard does expensions by making everything else irrelevent Outland and Northrend were not "expensions" but replacements sadly

@@Titi-pu2hl Yeah I agree on that point, I don't like how they get rid of everything each time a new expansion comes out. Keep what works and iterate on it. Guess they're afraid people are going to be overwhelmed but that can be worked around with introducing ideas during level, but that's too much work for Activision for sure.

​@@shadowbird25 I like that they now use old areas for new quests, unfortunately that comprises like less than 5% of the whole expansion.

I actually kinda fine with "expansion-replacements" zones are really seem better. Probably there were ways, for zones to be a something in the middle of original and "replacement", but atleast with changes to zone in lore (quests, dialogues, ingame books, etc) that will explain why zones look a bit different different. Im kinda sad though, that there almost whole azeroth is static. Kinda okay with outlands (at least we had draenor and there's now are light-crazes draeneis, which sounds interesting imo.) But Kalimdor, Eastern Kingdoms, Northrend. Nothing happens. Well, almost nothing. Kinda want to put my hopes on scourge invasion in the prepatch/start of new exp, but think it probably will not change anything. Eh.

Everything from Cataclysm onwards looks up to date. Even just giving each of these zones simple world quests by recycling old content would revive this massive world again.

Blizzard doesn't care about devotement - actually they don't care about shit if it doesn't bring money with the least possible amount of effort.

blizzard only cares about money now.

Love the content my guy

Can you link the sources were they got the survival content from?

Björn Bidar idk but I can link you to the turtle WoW site itself and you can try it in game for yourself turtle-wow.org/

I agree player housing would be just as bad as the garrison feature was and I feel guild housing would be a major upgrade to the garrison idea. Heck you wouldn't be alone in dead space and more many people can utilize all the features of guild housing similar to class halls that we got in Legion but in a guild only format. I was hoping they would of built or expanded upon the class halls but like everything else they put something decent or fun in the game then scrap or forget about it.

I think that's even less likely to happen then player housing given how much WoW's game design has tried to stray away from the importance of being in a guild

Idk. I don't mind being solo in garrison or personal house. Would prefer something like garrison even more, if it was more... Eh, variable? If i had more choices to where i want to put buildings and fence/walls. More upgrades. For the size, for, idk, anything. Stuff like that. And be able to destroy buildings. Like, just put that shit in cosmos, or on some drifting meteors, or some fuckin dimension and etc. There's so many possible stuff to do. Farming for resources to build stuff. Crafting decorative stuff. Farming decorative shit like monsters heads, bodies to make stuffed animals and monsters. Some artifacts, maybe broken ones. Animal pens where u can actually see some of your pets being inside or/and walking outside. Farming for resources, doing side quests and crafting for illusions, to make your place look different (grass, burned, demonic dead place with green flames, filled with ice, etc.) Even possibilities for donations - to speed up building and, maybe, avoid some of the farming. It doesn't need to be the centre of expansion. Just let ot be a fine addition for the time being. A nice place that u would continue to visit not because u need it 100%. But more like because you like it. Eh. I probably should stop right here, before it's too late. There's already too much.

and spiral knights

Player housing works pretty well in ESO. I think the key is that it should be for roleplaying and cosmetic purposes and not tied into any power gain, nor closely connected with just a single expansion's content (then made irrelevant, like wow always does). My ideal house(s) would be unlocked with gold, requiring local deeds (questing in the zone or local reputation) and allow high level customisation in what objects you can place in it. Furnitures and objects should make professions relevant again with tailors creating carpets, curtains, flags, herbalists gathering cosmetic plants, enchanters making ritual circles and ghostlights and so on. Having a stable to display favourite mounts or your best pets walking around would be nice, too. Hunters could keep their pets there too, an altar for paladins to pray at etc. Maybe an alternative runeforge for death knights. As for the social aspect: simply allow your party, raid or guild to enter. But what I'm asking is clearly way too much.

Fo3hamm3r Same

Yup. Same here.

Reforged (Refunded) cutscenes

My thoughts exactly. It's a mystery to me how so few people can see this issue in modern gaming (and particularly WoW). For this reason The Barrens and Hellfire Peninsula are some of my favourite zones in terms of atmosphere and world building.

I agree I really dislike those modern zones. Well I like them sometimes but I need both, I need massive empty zones to breath

EUsmongold you should realize that classic tbc probably won’t happen.

imagine thinking tbc classic is coming out lmfaoooooo

Y'all know they started backlogging everything post 1.12 so clapping the BC patches on the Legion Client they use for Classic now wouldn't be a big problem rite? And you could easily scam people for another 20€ and sell Classic TBC as an expansion lol

You know classic is on a steady decline of player base right

They'd have to reword them to fit the classic philosophy though, something which would be nice though.

shezarrine WoW's default land mass is too small. Having a dedicated continent with an entrance from the unused portal in Stormwind would have worked. Sadly Blizzard didn't have a clue.

Henry M. Interesting, do you know what the name would be?

@@TheHarisBotic yea I recommend joining the discord, it's really active... VanillaPlus.org

Henry M. Sweet, didnt know about that heheh thanks! Would love if blizz/someone builds on the existing Classic style of play!