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@paulvenn44474 жыл бұрын
I love coming back and watching these older videos in your library, I've seen them before, but really enjoy going back and watching over them again. Fantastic content.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul - I don't know much about video production etc... but with help - I try : )
@clintleffingwell81293 жыл бұрын
I love the old Sako's, but never knew that they made rifles under the Marlin brand name. I inherited an old L461 with a full-length Mannlicher stock that was re-chambered at some point from .222 to .223 Remington. Very sweet sub-3/4 MOA shooter (usually better if I do my part). I also have an old Sako L579 in 22-250 in the heavy barrel varmint configuration. Both rifles have that wonderful little slick action. Thanks again for putting out such great videos; one of the best channels on KZfaq! :-)
@UnitedStatesOfGuns3 жыл бұрын
Hi Clint - You have some lasting values there - great rifles to own and shoot and they keep going up. I'm glad the channel is okay. Stay safe and all the best to you.
@paulsimmons57266 жыл бұрын
The Steyr was gorgeous; my wife loves her Steyr, that's for sure!
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul, You know, the video resulted in me looking at the Steyrs more closely. No wonder your wife loves her Steyr. Superb, superb rifles - the machining is beyond belief and the finishes are many above custom guns. Those were the days my friend...
@paulsimmons57266 жыл бұрын
USOG - My wife's Steyr is one current SBS 96 series, a Pro Hunter Mountain Rifle with a 20" barrel, topped with a Kahles 3-12x56. I laugh at the model name because it weighs a ton, not anything I'd want to carry up the side of a mountain. On the other hand, it's a great rifle for tree stands, tripods, buck huts where a shorter barrel is a plus. The best thing about her rifle is that it shoots all 150-165g 30-06 ammo with no favorites, the Steyr can place 3 shots in a nickel-sized group any day of the week, sometimes, a dime! My M70 in 257Roberts can do that also but not my 7x57. Anyway, that Steyr you showed was a beauty! Take care and have a great weekend!
@rickbattle57066 жыл бұрын
Great overview. Excellent info. Don't think there is anyone on KZfaq covering similar subjects as well or with the knowledge or experience. Much appreciated. :-)
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
Hi Rick! I just see your name and I'm encouraged!
@patrickwentz84135 жыл бұрын
Taking my CZ 527 deer hunting tomorrow. I see you really really like that Cooper!
@UnitedStatesOfGuns5 жыл бұрын
Something about it - very fine. Good luck!
@Blanchy104 жыл бұрын
Loved my Sako Vixen 17Rem. BTW PLEASE put a blanket on your bench! I wince hearing the clunks.
@carlhazelton10773 жыл бұрын
Have that same Cooper in 22 Hornet. They are indeed lovely little jewels. They shoot as well as they look. Nice video- thank you
@bobgarr62464 жыл бұрын
" If you give it a little tip it will close by itself, but what does that mean? ". Well, let's see. To my mind that means that during manufacturing and design an enormous amount of attention and time were put into the engineering, machining, tolerance and quality control. It also means that much time was spent by real gunsmiths, not machines, in fit, finish, heat treat, tolerance verification and polishing by hand. There is no other way to achieve the type of smoothness of operation that your "L" model Styer exhibits than by adhering to these practices. The Vixen is a wonderful rifle and a fine example of the gunsmithing trade, a bit pricey when compared to the Remingtons, Winchesters and Brownings of the same era. But what you get from Sako ( and sock - o is the correct pronunciation) for that pricey cost is a beautifully built rifle that will easily stand the test of time to be handed down to your children's, children's, childern and still group better than your ability to shoot !!! The CZ's are the best kept secret in the firearms marketplace. Due to import restrictions during the Cold War here in the U.S they were not widely known, the CZ - 75 pistol being very much sought after, especially after Jeff Copper exalted it's abilities. But upon importation resuming it became known that for a very reasonable price a high quality, old word produced, attractive, very functional, feature loaded and accurate firearm could be had that in rifle format covered everything in style from European to American style and in usage from target to plinking to hunting to the most dangerous of African game. The Czechs proved without a doubt that they could make damn good firearms. The Marlin is a hidden gem, that was not promoted properly. Built on the Sako action, most were unaware that Marlin was selling a very high quality rifle, as most thinking was that if it wasn't a lever action rifle Marlin was selling they would pass. Harrington Richardson did the same with a number of excellent rifles, an 1873 Trapdoor Springfield and a high power centerfire autoloader were some. Browning did so with Belgian made 98 Mauser actions, as did Weatherby. Marlin and Mossberg both have tried to jump into the centerfire bolt arena a few times, but with little in the way of sales and success. Until the Mossberg Patriot series came out. A few years ago Marlin came out with a MS -7 and ML - 7. A short and long action repeating bolt gun. Reasonably priced these were outstanding achievements and excellent rifles, although, again poorly promoted. A synthetic stocked long action version in.270 Winchester I shot was a 1/2 MOA gem. Marlin's design team took a great approach in coming up with the concept, " let's incorporate the best features of tried and true guns already on the market". The barrel is 100% Savage in its attachment to the receiver. The safety is Remington 700, the trigger/fire control is Savage 110, the bolt body and bolt head are reminiscent of Mauser, but the plunger ejector is definitely Remington 700 as are the extractor. Bolt release is a Savage 110 method. Bolt travel was smooth and non binding useung a raceway system similar to Ruger M-77 and Remington 700. Cost was kept low by using a blind magazine, so no bottom metal, and the trigger guard is integral and synthetic. There are no sling attachment points, finish is a generic blue.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns4 жыл бұрын
A fantastic essay on what's what! Thank you for taking the time. I hope people read your note.
@aaronbuckmaster70634 жыл бұрын
I’m slowly building my CZ collection. My 527’s are in 22 Hornet and 222. I have to start buying their shotguns. I think the smallest actions I have are the Winchester light and heavy 223 SSM’s. The first “high power” 22 I shot squirrels at longer range with was a 218 Bee. I have a couple and like them.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns4 жыл бұрын
.218 Bee ! I love that cartridge. I'm amazed. Most people have no idea what I am talking about so I just start talking about honey.
@aaronbuckmaster70634 жыл бұрын
I know exactly what you mean.
@patrickcrowe1611 Жыл бұрын
i really enjoy your channel.
@josearellano57782 жыл бұрын
Absolutely beautiful rifles‼️ 😍😍😍😍
@Nick-wn1xw5 жыл бұрын
Another great video. 527 is on my “to get” list soon. Seeing the other rifles were a great comparison.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns5 жыл бұрын
Hope you like it as much as I do. Thank you!
@Nick-wn1xw4 жыл бұрын
It is now off of my “to get” list and is on my “now own” list. Great rifle! Got mine in 7,62x39. Now looking to get one in 6.5 Grendel.
Just got myself a CZ 527 in 7.62. love that Steyr, just gorgeous and in 22-250 to boot. Was at a local finally last week and they showed me a Mauser hunting rifle in .243. just absolutely top notch everything. While I could appreciate the rifle the $3500 price tag was too rich for me. I like to take my rifles out in the woods and shoot them. I would leave that rifle in the safe. But it's nice to handle and appreciate a well made rifle and the skill that went into it's creation.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns Жыл бұрын
Hello - That's a very fine rifle and ideal for hunting. I agree - it is not easy to take a high dollar gem into the thickets; although many do.
@denniswiemer723 ай бұрын
I have a Sako Vixen/ Marlin in 222 beautiful and accurate.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns3 ай бұрын
Superb
@kolssterkaiterrisio6824 жыл бұрын
CZ 👍
@kennethbailey26164 жыл бұрын
I like the Coopers as well. They’re made in Montana but I think they started elsewhere and moved here later. Two other companies that moved to Montana from back east are the Shiloh and Sharps companies. They were together at one time but have separated and are just a couple blocks apart in Big Timber. I’ve toured both places and they make extraordinary black powder cartridge rifles. Shiloh, I think, made the Quigley rifle.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns4 жыл бұрын
I should get a Sharps.
@scheusselmensch57135 жыл бұрын
If you keep the trigger pulled the Model L will fully close the bolt when tipped barrel down. They are really nice. Triggers were set at 3 ounces from the factory on the double set rifles if memory serves. You really had to impress this fact of anyone shooting one for the first time.
@user-pi4pm2oh3c2 жыл бұрын
Very good
@afinelookinggentleman26313 жыл бұрын
I was looking at a brand new Model 70 Featherweight the other day. It had an amazing trigger, but I’m uncertain of a lightweight gun as I have recoil concerns. It’s much nicer to carry a lightweight rifle, but I’m guessing the the recoil might be severe. That said, I’ve never shot one. My Browning Safari in .308 Norma Mag is a beautiful gun, but I never much enjoy the recoil. I can’t imagine it as a featherweight. This is my favourite channel. Very informative. Thank you
@neighborscomplaint6859 Жыл бұрын
I would think for a hunter, it wouldn't really matter. I'm a target bullseye hunter, so less recoil makes for a more enjoyable shooting session for me. .270 Win is my limit in a lightweight rifle. I bought a few 30-06 lightweights including a mannlicher-style carbine and they were outside of my comfort zone and I quickly resold them. I have a couple rifles in 6.5 Swede and it is enjoyable to shoot as is my .25-06. My other guns are all .243, .223 and .222 which are all bark and no bite at all in a light rifle of course.
@rupertmcnaughtdavis73026 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the video on aperture sights.
@yeahbee82376 жыл бұрын
love my 527, scope mounting is an issue thou because the bolt throw is so high now they sell bolts that are milled out a bit to better clear scopes
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
Good point - those Mauser based action bolts throw too high. I had not noticed the scallop on the bolt shank much but after you mention it - I see they tried. Anyway - fantastic rifles.
@kennethbailey26164 жыл бұрын
My daughter-in-law has a Christensen Arms rifle with a carbon fiber wrapped barrel. I’d swear, sans scope, it doesn’t weigh much more than my28 gauge skeet gun. It has a great muzzle brake and she’s a small gal and can handle it very well. She’s out elk hunting with it right now.
@clintleffingwell81293 жыл бұрын
I picked up a Christensen Arms Ridgeline in 6.5 Creedmoor the other day, and was absolutely shocked at how light that rife is (especially with a 24" large contour barrel). It's got me pondering the idea of selling a couple other rifles to fund the $2K purchase price. ;-)
@TheMrkunekune6 жыл бұрын
i have a x-bolt in .223 rem that has a super short action :D love it
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
Hi! Yes - I handled one and must get one! You have a gem.
@jerryclark8636 Жыл бұрын
Kimber of Oregon Model 84 are nice!
@UnitedStatesOfGuns Жыл бұрын
Hi Jerry - 100% right - I just can't find any - people don't sell them - which is the right thing to do. I did own one - years ago - and still remember that safety - smooth as a watch mechanism - so well designed and manufactured. Maybe I'll have better luck this year. The Super America is one of the best US rifles ever. Good shooting Jerry
@michaelfalconer2816 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Love your old guns. Very nice. Where can i get some rails for my tikka m65?
@Doc42O6 жыл бұрын
5:13 doesn't the range of the boltlift depend on the amount and radial distribution of the bolt lugs rather than if the lugs are in front or the back of the bolt? like for a 2 lug system you need aprox a 90° boltlift to open but with a 3 lug design 60° and a 4 lug design 45°?
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. : ) That is quite correct; I used the wrong wording. The lugs at the back make it somewhat easier to alter the location of the lugs or locking elements; since the lugs don't have to ride over the magazine and cartridges etc... Anyway...good point. I'll clarify. Thanks again for writing.
@aaronbuckmaster70635 жыл бұрын
The Winchester model 70 in 223 SSM was made in light weight and heavy. This specific action is the shortest ever built for light weight. Both barrels have a 1 in 10 twist. Combined with the velocity they can stabilize up to a 70 grain bullet. It was not popular due to ammunition expense, but can beat the mighty 220 Swift for velocity.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns5 жыл бұрын
Hey Aaron - I still have one! usually I sell too soon but somehow I like the .223 WSSM so much - I kept it.
@aaronbuckmaster70635 жыл бұрын
Most excellent. Hold onto it. Its becoming as desired as the old mid grip Remington XP100 actions. I have three in 221 Fireball. Those are keepers also. I like your Mannlicher Schoenauer and Styers and the original collaborations. Apologies, I’m sure I spelled them wrong. I actually don’t have any. Very nice pieces. Have you started collecting low production or mid high and high end shotguns. They increase in value very well. All our pieces are for a family heirloom collection. I don’t sell any. I live in California, unfortunately, and have a dream of opening up dealership. I would like to set it up somewhat like a museum of the collection. My family has been big into long range hunting and proprietary cartridge development for over 50 years. I enjoy rare or highly refined or functionally esthetic hunting pieces. I see it as a form of art. I enjoy watching you videos. I’ll respond as I watch, if I can provide any information.Well done those.
@momouppa6 жыл бұрын
I have a Sako 85xs in .223 I have been toying with buying a L461 action and getting it chambered in .20 practical or .20 Vartarg.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
Hi Philip - I hope you do! I'm curious about the .20 Vartarg; actually .20s in general - some interesting BCs in that cal. Best of luck!
@eb16842 жыл бұрын
I like the 218 Bee also. (Never had one). It is a fascinating cartridge. Do you shoot yours very much?
@joeguzman35586 жыл бұрын
Cz used to make the lux in 243 and 22-250 but they stopped and noe the make 223 i WISH they make them again ,the cz lux is Beutiful
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe - I'm going to look at one tomorrow - I think it is a .270 though : ( - would prefer a .243
@ashmerch25586 жыл бұрын
Nice Video, I enjoyed it thuroughly. Very fine rifle collection, you make me very envious. My name is Cody Hill, you can say it haha, I'm looking forward to the video on iron sights. Thanks again. If possible include a Tang sight, but a guy can only wish. I'll take whatever you can get. Your videos are more detailed on the finer things, that's what we all enjoy. A+ as always. I have joined you on patreon and give what I can. You deserve it USOG
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Cody! I appreciate your help and always good words. Have a great and safe weekend. Mike
@garrisonnichols73723 жыл бұрын
I love a good bolt action rifle in 223 Remington
@CREvothegreater4 жыл бұрын
i got the cz carbine in 7.62 and also the full stock in .223...theyre such cool rifles, nearly like them as much as my sauer 404 elegance, but the sauers price forbids me liking them equally...
@UnitedStatesOfGuns4 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean. The high end guns of today can really be amazing - and so can a Mauser 98 sporter adapted from a military rifle made 80 years ago : $150.
@justinschmidt46926 жыл бұрын
I own an Interarms "mini Mauser" in .223. Amazing small action bolt action rifle.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
Hi Justin - I missed one of those : twice! I hesitated and when I returned to the store - gone. Next time I see one I'll act right away - they are lovely little actions and rifles.
@justinschmidt46926 жыл бұрын
USOG a real joy to carry and shoot. I am amazed what I am finding in gun stores. If you like wood and traditional rifles now is the time to buy. The younger shooters have no interest. I'm 43 so neither old or young, but I like the old ways. Keep up the videos.
@momouppa6 жыл бұрын
Justin Schmidt Who made the interarms actions?
@justinschmidt46926 жыл бұрын
I believe it was a CZ product of the 1999's made to the spec that interarms wanted. The company was out of UK, but it was not made in England. The mini Mauser is even smaller than the small actions in this video. I believe it came in 3 calibers. I have only seen it in .233. interarms does not exist anymore (if they do I have not seen anything from this company for years).
@MrPh306 жыл бұрын
They are Zastava made minimausers, factory chambered in .223 and 7.62x39 . I have seen a couple that were polished the bolt on and given a good bedding . They shot great. One i saw only pictures of was one Zastava with a thick bull barrel on in 6,5 Grendel .
@teppokuusisto1446 жыл бұрын
Nice video once again. What drove you to collect guns and what was the first one (and do you still own it?)
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
Hi Teppo - A Slavia .177 single shot pellet rifle was my first. I don't have it anymore : ( I think at an early age I became interested in mechanisms - any mechanism : gate hinges, clothes pins, wheels on cars, the usual clocks and watches - but nothing matches guns. From the first moment I encountered one - the interest grew and grew and when I encounter something like the Semprio - my interest is energized to even greater heights. Thanks for asking.
@randyschaff89394 жыл бұрын
Same here as a boy l was always taking things apart and getting in trouble for it. I wasn’t always able to reassemble it🇨🇦🤠
@Blanchy104 жыл бұрын
@@randyschaff8939 Me too. I got introduced to guns by my brother. Was funny watching him pull a bolt apart and get frustrated at not being able to reassemble it. I after about an hour of him cursing would offer to help and without fail reassemble it within minutes.
@afinelookinggentleman26313 жыл бұрын
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns that was also my first rifle. My parents bought it for me and I wore it out in the backyard. I don’t know what ever happened to it when I became an adult. It was totally wore out, you could watch the pellet drop as you fired it, but wish I still had it for sentimental reasons.
@mohammadmehdi87116 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video and thanks for the advice about the R8 I just ordered one today and hopefully it arrives in couple months and I just wanted your opinion on what is the best scope I put on her is the best for long range (500-700 metres). Have a great weekend and thanks again for your great videos
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
Hi Romeo - that's great! I'm sure you'll like the R8. I'm going to make a quick video for you on scopes.
@mohammadmehdi87116 жыл бұрын
USOG Oh mate I'm really thankful and really really appreciate that and it's means allot to me thanks again and really appreciate keep on the great videos
@joeguzman35586 жыл бұрын
i wish the make them in 22-250 cz lux ,i got one in 223 the look and wood is Beutiful
@c.j.rogers24225 жыл бұрын
22-250 wouldn't fit in the mini-Mauser action.
@gimmigota15 жыл бұрын
Please could you do a video on side by side shotguns cheap but great in accuracy and maintenance or best of the best?
@UnitedStatesOfGuns5 жыл бұрын
Will do. SXS shotguns are a fantastic subject. Thank you!
@alexvermaak1759 Жыл бұрын
Always wanted a 527 but I think I missed the boat, they are discontinued now and out of stock everywhere. Bad timing too, they discontinued them the same year I became old enough to buy guns in my country. Having to look for other alternatives now.
@Drgunzo616 Жыл бұрын
I just bought one used yesterday. It's pretty much the only rifle I have found that works for what I want. A compact carbine that can take deer in the Michigan woods, has iron sights, moderate recoil and inexpensive ammo. I grew up shooting a 10/22 with a peep sight so I'm pretty used to irons at Short ranges. While a scope is more effective, if anything happens to it you basically don't have a rifle anymore.
@leroywinnie83006 жыл бұрын
Any thing over 7 pounds is heavy. Keeping it under 7 is a nice light weight rifle.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
I agree
@Oneofthetwelve5 жыл бұрын
Viewers I ask your forgiveness for this question. When I see what appears to be a fixed rear sight, like on the CZ in this video and on pictures of Husqvarna 1600 rifles, can they be adjusted for elevation? Thank you for your forbearance and information. Finally, does the CZ have a set trigger? Take care everyone.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns5 жыл бұрын
Hello Oneof, Yes - they can be adjusted. The only exceptions are the one piece fixed rear sights that are found on some European guns; those are sighted in at the factory and usually staked in place. The others have one or another mechanism to raise or lower the sight - or 2 tiny screws to raise or lower a tiny leaf that is part of the rear sight - many folding rear sights have this tiny sliding leaf. Some of the CZs have set triggers. My long barreled model doesn't though.
@Oneofthetwelve5 жыл бұрын
USOG thank you again. If you have a stakes in place rear sight and no scope, are we in the “Kentucky windage” exercise? Also, I’ll soon provide you a report regarding the Swedish rifle book.
@Kismetix5 жыл бұрын
@@Oneofthetwelve I've got a modern CZ 527 in 7.62 x 39. The rear sight is fixed, and the front sight is adjustable for both elevation and windage. I don't use the sights due to near-field blur in both eyes, and put a Vortex PST Gen II 3-15x44 scope on it as the aiming solution. Mounting this scope required high-rise scope rings sold by CZ, which permitted the scope body to clear the bolt handle. One other thing that had to be done was to take a brass punch to the rear sight, and drift it out of the dovetail receiver it was press-fit into (actually an easy job, took all of a minute). The rear sight was removed because the sighting blade was interfering with the front of the scope. After all this was done, the rifle shoots perfectly - or at least what I would call perfect. I've only had it at an indoor 50 yard range so far, but if I had to guess the accuracy looks like it would be around 1-1.5 MOA @ 100 yards. Definitely this is my favorite bolt gun...in fact I shoot this rifle and leave everything else in the gun safe.
@Oneofthetwelve5 жыл бұрын
Mike Sutherland thanks for the detailed reply. I have good stock of both steel cased and brass in this caliber. I may be one of the few that decided to reload brass for my SKS as I just can’t run that nasty corrosive ammunition. I’m strongly considering either the CZ or second choice the Zastava in this caliber.
@Kismetix5 жыл бұрын
@@Oneofthetwelve Well if you go for the CZ, put some good gun lube oil (I use corrosion-X) on the bolt body before shooting. Out of the box, there is a heavier gun oil on the bolt assembly as-shipped but it isn't very conducive to a smooth operating action. After I put a thin film of Corrosion-X on the bolt cylinder, everything smoothed out considerably and is very easy to operate.
@albertsilla69712 жыл бұрын
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@caymoc20525 жыл бұрын
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@prevost86863 жыл бұрын
I have the Howa Mini Action and while it’s been accurate I personally think that Howa cut too many corners with the overuse of flimsy plastic on the trigger guard and mag release areas. The CZ just impressed with the old world wood & steel . The Howa Mini is an excellent foundation to build upon but the CZ already has everything right out of the box. Of course that’s just my useless opinion. I really like the Cooper rifles though I could never understand the founder’s support of anti- 2nd Amendment politicians.
@keelanmiles240B3 жыл бұрын
When you call CZ, they call their company CZ - CeeZee...
@cs-rj8ru Жыл бұрын
Marlin's micro groove rifling is junk in this 222. I personally have seen 3 of these rifles with burned out throats, yet all rifles looked pristine otherwise.
@jimarnold13352 жыл бұрын
USOG, I don’t think you fully appreciate what you have with that Cooper. A medium barrel in 218 Bee is a perfect prairie dog and ground squirrel gun. 218 is vastly underrated and much better than the Hornet.
@eb16842 жыл бұрын
How is it better than Hornet? It is only about 100 fps more velocity, 2% more bullet weight and better for reloading because of cartridge shape. Anything else?
@jimarnold13352 жыл бұрын
@@eb1684 you said it. It’s faster, flatter and just as efficient. Why the Hornet is doing fine but the Bee is dying is a mystery. Don’t get me wrong…the Hornet is a sweet little round. But it has nothing over the Bee.
@eb16842 жыл бұрын
@@jimarnold1335 Kimber made a very nice bolt action in .218 Bee (in about 1985). I don't know if they still do. I bought a beautiful Kimber .22 Hornet just before they came out with the Bee. I had very little opportunity to shoot it due to huge population (human) increases in my area so finally sold it. Sad.
@user-lh1hz4dy5z5 ай бұрын
CZ's warranty is worthless!
@theprofessorfate61846 жыл бұрын
Detachable magazine on a hunting rifle= stupid. Great quality, dumb idea.
@tonya761024 күн бұрын
Steyr are stunningly years ago I had a chance of buying one at a local Guns show and I was an idiot and passed it up I think back then it was about $1200 I was dumb