DA Talk: Old Gods (Archdemons, Legend vs Fact, Blight in Inquisition?)

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Lady Insanity

Lady Insanity

10 жыл бұрын

The Old Gods: your friendly Blight-bringing neighbor who has come to wreck your petunias. And your lands. But only on Tuesdays.
QUESTION OF THE VID: What will end the Blights?
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DRAGON AGE TALK: OLD GODS
Narrated and Produced by Ashe Ladyinsanity
Games Featured: Dragon Age Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition (Pre-Alpha)
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@ObsdnBlck
@ObsdnBlck 9 жыл бұрын
My theory... There are hints throughout the games and suplimental material, and when all the pieces are put together, a larger picture emerges. First, it was discovered in that in Inquisition, during the scenes in the Fade, the incoherent whispering are not so incoherent. In fact, the whispers suggest that the Old Gods of the Tevinter Imperium and the Elven pantheon were one and the same. Flemeth and Solas are confirmed Elven gods. Which leaves seven unaccounted for. Seven. The exact number of gods worshiped by the Tevinter. It's also interesting to note that while Flemeth is Mythal, an Elven deity, she often transforms into a dragon, the form of the Old Gods of the Tevinter. Elven Legend says that Fen'Harel, the Dread Wolf, betrayed both the Elven gods and the Forgotten Ones, sealing them away in their respective realms. A place called 'The Beyond' was mentioned as the home of the Elven gods. The Beyond is the Dalish term for the Fade. Solas, Fen'Harel himself, claims that his betrayal of the Old Gods were a necessary act, one he took with regret but with no other choice presented to him. He saw it as the only way to protect the people from eternal war. According to what was learned in Inquisition, the Elven gods warred on each other constantly. This is likely why the Dread Wolf got fed up and killed or sealed them all away. This action shattered the Old Gods, and what remained of them became the gods of the Tevinter, whispering to the Magisters of the Imperium to free them. The Tevinter Imperium did not rise until after the Old Gods had been betrayed, after all. Perhaps that is why. Corypheus claims that the Golden City never existed, that it was always black. When Tamlen looked through the Eluvian in the Dalish Origin, he saw 'a great city, underground, then a great blackness'. The Eluvians are apparently heavily linked to the Fade and the Black City. Taken together, these suggest that the Black City IS Arlathan, the ancient capital of the Elven homeland. Solas' conversations about Elven Immortality, and a further conversation about a 'hypothetical' time when the Veil did not exist, as well as Sandal's 'propecy' in DA:II, that everyone would be 'as they once were' lead to further speculations. So, here is my theory. The Elven gods warred amongst themselves, and upon the Elves. Their war damaged Arlathan. Maybe it was the Creators, or maybe it was the Forgotten Ones. Whoever was responsible, Arlathan was corrupted. Tainted. To end this, to save the people, Solas, Fen'Harel, the Dread Wolf, stopped the war by shattering both the Forgotten Ones and the Creators, sealing them away. To do so, he created the Veil, seperating the Fade from the physical realm, and exiling the remains of the gods, and the tainted Arlathan, into the Fade. This is why the Elves were immortal. Because they, and likely humans as well, were not always physical beings. The act of creating the Veil, of separating the creators and the now-corrupted Arlathan from the rest, created the division between mortal and spirit, resulting in the elves losing their spiritual forms and becoming mortal beings. Sealed away, the shattered remnants of the Elven gods reached out for help, to anyone amenable to their cries, with a lust for the power they could offer those who freed them. The magisters of the nascent Tevinter Imperium heard their calls, and entered the Black City/Arlathan. This act cause them to become infected with the Taint, and created the Darkspawn. It also allowed the remnants of the Elven gods to connect with the mortal plane, where they reformed weakened as dragons. They slumber until they can regain their power. The Darkspawn are drawn towards the Old Gods because the Taint originated with them, is inexorably linked to them. This is why Solas was so angry at the Wardens for killing the Old Gods. Because they were slaughtering his former friends, the Elven pantheon, and preventing Solas from restoring the gods to their true forms, and returning the world to the way it once was, with no Veil, no separation between the mortal and physical planes. If the Creators were responsible for the Taint in the first place, then killing them or freeing them from influence if the Taint as the Architect claimed to want will end the Blights. If the Forgotten Ones were responsible, however, then killing the remnants of the Elven Gods may not end the Blights, but may lead to something far worse. That's my theory on the whole thing, anyway.
@steveceja4772
@steveceja4772 9 жыл бұрын
ObsdnBlck I agree with a lot of what you said about the black city being Arlathan and the elven gods being behind the taint but I don't believe that the elven gods and the old gods are the same. If I remember right, the ancient elves were at war with the Tevinter imperium. Everyone assumes that the Imperium was evil, but what if there was something corrupt about Arlathan that they were fighting against. I think that the old gods sealed themselves away in order to trap the city in the fade and it was really the elven gods that whispered to the magisters and tricked them into the city. Once the magisters became corrupted they were forever thralls of the elven gods. There is too much there to be coincidence I mean the Architect "accidentally" releases Urthemial when we now know Flemeth wanted the old god soul. Solas tries to get Corypheus to use that elven orb for him. The probably unleashed the taint in order to corrupt the old gods and give everyone a reason to kill them, and when one of them dies one of the seals on the city is broken. That is what I think anyways
@Nyrufa
@Nyrufa 9 жыл бұрын
ObsdnBlck It is very likely that the Forgotten Ones are the true source of the Blight and its Calling. One of the Codex entries for Inquisition mentions one of the Elven Gods venturing into the Void to meet with the Forgotten Ones and returning with longer and longer bouts of madness each time. Eventually she forgot who she was and had begun ranting about secrets that were never meant to be remembered, which is VERY similar to what happens to those infected with the Blight. If this is true, it means killing the Old Gods will not stop Blights or their Calling.
@dragongeode1993
@dragongeode1993 9 жыл бұрын
We learn in the DLC that "gods" are powerful spirits, that possess mortals/dragons most commonly. Wynn/Faith, Anders/Justice, Solas/Fen'Harral, and Andraste/Maker. Solas says even when a spirit dies, if it is strong enough "something new may grow". So if a spirit is strong enough it is immortal and cannot be killed, just recycled. The old gods are not evil themselves, they are corrupted by the darkspawn into archdemons. Darkspawn themselves are tainted creatures from origins elves/shrieks, dwarves/ genlocks, humans/hurlocks, as per the brood mother theory. Now lyrium itself is being corrupted. Golden city, place of dreams, turns black.
@thotywoty7633
@thotywoty7633 6 жыл бұрын
Damn you must be studying because you wrote a huge comment
@FirelillyHeals
@FirelillyHeals 6 жыл бұрын
I believe what you say, mostly. The Old Gods are MOST DEFINITELY Elven Gods. That was the big "OH SHIT" I had after Inquisition, if you play the game right, and you listen to everything this is very, very, very, clear. Expect I don't think that before Solas created the Veil they didn't have mortal bodies, because of the way Solas talks about the past. He will tell you that they were just people, in Trespasser. They were just people, and while you're in "the black city" you learn more about this too. They all were mages. They all had that connection to the Fade. Solas, along with his friends started to become revered as generals when the wars started.Eventually, they became revered as gods. Solas also says that the key to immortality is a "secret" Most likely a secret that him and his friends kept from the other elves, thus making them more "god like." Solas sealed them away because the "other alternatives would have been worse" This could mean that they were corrupted by the forgotten ones, or by whomever (themselves, perhaps) It would seem likely that that both Mithal and Solas would save their friends souls to return them as they once were. But I am not sure that is concrete, they are very vague on their motives. I am confused too why Solas would kill Flemeth? If she was truely Mithal.... ahhh... or maybe he took her soul and freed her of her form? Idk. Either way, I think the same as you, only I think they always had elf forms, and actually I think humans could be descendants of elves without magic- making them appear more human like. Although- they are still born with magic, obviously, the Fade is still there, just less. Therefore, humans are elves, just less.
@gallopingLake6
@gallopingLake6 10 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how it will end. Just so as long as it doesn't end with slaying the red, blue or green dragon.
@leljala
@leljala 10 жыл бұрын
Yessss, finally a reference I get.
@neiasilva2371
@neiasilva2371 10 жыл бұрын
Mass Effect 3 ending reference...
@gallopingLake6
@gallopingLake6 10 жыл бұрын
Slay the Red Dragon to destroy all dark spawn. Slay the Blue Dragon to control all dark spawn. Or Slay the Green Dragon to synthesize with all dark spawn (which is actually the Architect's plan).
@Masterofmind999
@Masterofmind999 10 жыл бұрын
gallopingLake6 If Bioware reads this, AND does this, I swear, I'll kill you. Then I will pull an Anders on their headquarters, and mope around New York square saying; "I've struck a blow against shitty endings everywhere.......I don't regret my decision."
@Moonsault37
@Moonsault37 10 жыл бұрын
RED: destroy every mage BLUE: remove all magical abilities without making people Tranquil GREEN: make everyone have a deeper, direct connection to the Fade, granting everyone magical abilities
@MessagerOfHell
@MessagerOfHell 10 жыл бұрын
According to the Lore, Blights occur only when an Archdemon rises from "slumber". But Darkspawn have been seen in large raiding groups surfacing to capture and drag victims down into the Deeproads, women preferably in order to assure the continuation of their "race". Most likely after all of the Old Gods are no more the Darkspawn will still remain a danger. If they are all drawn to the song and if the song is no more then there might be a worse case scenario where they might go insane or berserk and surface numbering in the legions. I still don't think all of the Darkspawn can be killed at once, their taint and numbers will take at the very least several generations of Wardens to wipe out entirely. It might be possible that the Grey Wardens use the slumbering Archdemons as beacons to keep these massive numbers of Darkspawn from overrunning the surface or their footholds in the Deeproads, a possible reason why they don't attempt to kill off the Archdemon while it still sleeps and is most vulnerable.
@xanditz
@xanditz 8 жыл бұрын
About the Architect, even if we decided to kill him on the awakening, he might have survived using the same way to transfer himself to another darkspawn like Corypheus. He might still be around anyway.
@CapitanMargarita
@CapitanMargarita 10 жыл бұрын
I don't think darkspawn will cease to be an issue after the old gods are slain. I mean, look at the way they reproduce and their taint that destroys all it touches. I just don't think that humans and even free darkspawn can co-exist. I also am totally curious to know the truth behind the 'golden city' incident. I'm not buying the chantry's tale, nor do I buy that the 'maker' is a benevolent being. The sins of a few mages doom all their kind and humanity to boot? What about the claim that the city was never golden at all? I want these questions answered in inquisition.
@lukemcinerny8220
@lukemcinerny8220 10 жыл бұрын
I think its meant to be similar to original sin in Catholic theology, forbidden fruit in the Garden of eden
@artorius4809
@artorius4809 5 жыл бұрын
Same here
@artorius4809
@artorius4809 5 жыл бұрын
But I want to know how evanuris connect to taint if not old gods themselves
@Glorfindelfan1234
@Glorfindelfan1234 3 жыл бұрын
I think this depends on a lot though. We don’t know for certain that if all the arch demons are killed, that the blight will end with it. If it does, this wouldn’t be a problem as the darkspawn would likely perish. If the taint continues, the darkspawn will have lost their purpose. They are more primal and instinctive than anything. Likely they would infight more, breed less, expand/search the deep roads so intensely, and be less intelligent without the archdemon influence
@MrOddlyCynical
@MrOddlyCynical 9 жыл бұрын
I think after all that has been revealed in da:i we need more da talks
@Zenkx
@Zenkx 9 жыл бұрын
My brain will literally be blown if next game would occur with TWO frickin' Archdemons instead of just one. Dual Blights... holy shit, Thedas is ending... O_O
@Isaiflamand
@Isaiflamand 7 жыл бұрын
Zenkx the next game will be about Fen'harel not the archdemons
@moomimi
@moomimi 7 жыл бұрын
Isaiflamand kwetcalo Yeah, there's too much content to add it all in 1 game. What about the other factions like the dwarves? I don't think they can put it all in 1 game.
@FirelillyHeals
@FirelillyHeals 6 жыл бұрын
That is most likely how Solas believes our world will die in him releasing them. If this happens, that surely would mean the end of the series... Sad. Mystery and Night are both left. Solas left us in the dark, and very mysteriously. Parallel to that- The last blight was "Beauty" Flemeth just happened to send her beautiful daughter to trap the soul of an old god inside her with the baby. Seems curious right? Idk. Maybe we will get games of past blights ? or the history of what the "Old Gods/Elven Gods" are..
@FirelillyHeals
@FirelillyHeals 6 жыл бұрын
I was there the whole time--- Descent DLC.
@psykhosev
@psykhosev 4 жыл бұрын
I have 3 Ideas what will happen to Razikale & Lusacan (2 archdemons) if Bioware says that they aren't the Elven gods. When Solas said he had plans for killing the Evanuris, his plan could be to release the archdemons to attack the elven gods. Or there could be a choice on which archdemon is freed and lead to a darkspawn civil war (One being the Archetects choice, the other being some other darkspawn leaders choice choice) and which darkspawn faction will manage to regain some humanity. A third possible outcome is that the archdemons could either be saved from Wardens to prevent the darkspawn going beserk and causing one large blight, or killing the archdemons to prevent 2 future blights. Either way I hope Bioware doesn't butcher the story. And I hope that 4 isn't the last of the series either. Also hoping that Morrigan's child could play a key part (if you take part in her ritual) as he has the soul of Urthemiel (archdemon from Origins).
@tusharbhardwaj6963
@tusharbhardwaj6963 10 жыл бұрын
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@raziel6304
@raziel6304 8 жыл бұрын
You know, that whole thing about the Golden City turning into Black reminded me of Dark Souls. When you reach Anor Londo, the city of Sunlight, and make your way into Gwynevere the Daughter of the Lord of Sunlight. Should you decide to kill her, you will discover that the sun over Anor londo and its bright beauty is an illusion, where only dark remains. Maybe its the same for the Golden City? when people see it on their dreams, they see it golden and shiny. But when they step into the city physically its dark and cold, because it was abandoned.
@jamescooley8099
@jamescooley8099 5 жыл бұрын
Raziel Are you sure they see the Golden City when traversing the Fade? I thought it was black even in their dreams.
@Brigant70
@Brigant70 10 жыл бұрын
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@BioticGod1645
@BioticGod1645 10 жыл бұрын
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@Rafauku
@Rafauku 10 жыл бұрын
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@EmperorOnimusha
@EmperorOnimusha 9 жыл бұрын
Did anyone notice Morrgins outfit in the trailer is the same as what her and Leliana talked about in one of their banters.
@naitch5365
@naitch5365 10 жыл бұрын
Great video. Very nicely made and edited. I'm a big fan of your DA lore vids.
@drsaddomia
@drsaddomia 10 жыл бұрын
I live for your DA Talk videos! Great flipping job!
@oldterry9356
@oldterry9356 10 жыл бұрын
If the Gray Wardens ritual requires Arch-demon blood then how did the first Gray Wardens become Gray Wardens before the first Arch-demon died? Where did the first Gray Wardens get Arch-demon blood?
@deathwatch1980
@deathwatch1980 10 жыл бұрын
likely from one of the dragon corpses? they could have killed one only too figure out later that the soul 'jumped' into an other darkspawn and the arch demon did not stay dead. there for needing the ritual for it too stay dead
@deathwatch1980
@deathwatch1980 10 жыл бұрын
Bob Rijke they had been fighting if for 400 years i believe the time was?
@xsvrrx
@xsvrrx 10 жыл бұрын
Its likely that they battle the Arch Demon many times in the 200 years before they finally took it killed it. during each battle it likely the dragon would bleed. and after one event they came up wth the idea to drink the blood of it.
@gallopingLake6
@gallopingLake6 10 жыл бұрын
I think it was more like this according to the ancient joining ritual in Awakenings. The time has come for us to begin the Joining, I shall speak the words that have been said since the first. "Oh sodding sod, blood and ashes this is a bit of a bugger isn't it? We've clean run out of ale, what shall we drink?" "Oh well we could always drink this blood, ha ha ha" "Hey that is not half of a bad idea" "What? You must be mad. I must also be mad since I will drink it too" "And me!" "We are no more mad than whoever discovered milk. Seriously, what was "Hey this blood isn't half bad.... cough cough argh" "ha ha ha he could not hold his drink!" "Hey I think he's dead. Let's take his stuff" "Hey I think there's Darkspawn over there, I can sense them now" "Me too. Let's go kill them, we're almost out of blood" From this moment forth Oghren you are a Grey Warden
@KingRat543
@KingRat543 10 жыл бұрын
" While archdemon blood is typically used, blood of other darkspawn creatures can also be magically treated to make it function in the ritual" D.Gaider
@HisShadow
@HisShadow 10 жыл бұрын
Once the Old Gods are dead or handled the Darkspawn will gain sentience and we'll have another race in Thedas. I argue that once the call of the Old Gods is gone the insanity that affected the mother will only be a problem in the first generation of Darkspawn. Once second generation is born there's nothing to drive them insane because they never heard the song so therefore can't be driven insane by its absence.
@kevinkrasnov5547
@kevinkrasnov5547 10 жыл бұрын
The second generation darkspawn are born from brood mothers... people that have been dragged underground, corrupted, have darkspawn taint spewed into their open mouths, have their fellow captives fed to them, and then probably sexed up by other darkspawn so the brood mother becomes preggas and births the second generation... i say we just wipe them all out :|...
@cozzbutt
@cozzbutt 9 жыл бұрын
On a related note, I want to know more about what Justice meant when he claimed the dead go to a place "beyond the Fade" in Awakening. If there actually was a Maker and it "left," maybe it went to this other place? Actually, I'd like to have Justice, non-insane, sit down and explain a good number of things, because as one of the "Maker's first children," he'd no doubt have a lot of answers.
@LunaArgentum10
@LunaArgentum10 7 жыл бұрын
I've got a little bit of a wild idea. Looking for others thoughts. (Spoilers for up to Trespasser, but I haven't read any of the books yet. They're on my long list of things to read.) There were 9 Elven gods, however Fen'harel (Solas) wasn't really one of them. Mythal was "murdered", so when Solas made the Veil he locked away 7 of them. Elven society falls apart, humans come, create the Imperium. In the Imperium they worship The Old Gods, 7 of them. These Old Gods teach them the ways of magic and tempt 7 Magisters into entering the fade and the Golden City. We learn that in order to tear down the Veil, Solas needs to enter the fade. Is it possible that the Old Gods are the remaining Elven gods who were trying to get the Veil torn down by tempting the Magisters to enter the fade? Flemeth turns into a dragon in DA2 and has a totem animal dragon that she gives to the Inquisitor for the final battle. It wouldn't be a stretch to think that the other Elven gods were associated with dragons as well. I've seen discussion of how some people speculate that Andruil became infected with the Blight and that led to the story of her wearing Void armor and going violently crazy. And Coyphy claims that the Golden City was already corrupted and black when they got there. These two ideas would point to the Blight having existed during the reign of the Elves before Solas created the Veil. Another speculation I've heard is that the Golden City seen in the fade (now the Black City) is actually the remains of Arlathan, which I think would make perfect sense. Solas also gets angry during the discussion of how the Grey Wardens plan to go into the Deep Roads and hunt down the remaining Old Gods to kill them before they begin a Blight. He comments that they are essentially stupid and that the Blight cannot be outsmarted so easily. But I also wonder if he is angry that the Old Gods are being killed. He comments in Trespasser that an eternity of punishment is only fitting for the Elven gods for all they've done. One further point I'll make about the Old Gods possibly being the Elven gods: Flemeth/Mythal takes the spirit of the Old God from Keiran. And it makes her stronger, it then is presumably passed to Solas when he takes Mythal's spirit and lifeforce from Flemeth. Which then makes him incredibly strong. If Urthemiel (the Old God spirit in Keiran) isn't one of the Elven gods, it must be something at least very similar or how would Flemeth/Mythal and Solas be able to control it so easily? Thoughts?
@kayefore7185
@kayefore7185 6 жыл бұрын
I like your ideas. Mine are similar-ish. Corypheus says that the City was empty when he got there. He and his fellows were definitely tainted when they left. This is, I think, the first record of the Blight in the real (post-veil, non-Fade world). I believe therefore that the city contained the taint and that they brought it back to the world (but see below). This is more or less what the Chantry teaches except the Chantry teaches that there is a "Maker" who deliberately punished the Tevinter magisters for their intrusion and in this theory it wasn't a punishment but a simple consequence. The city was already tainted and the magisters brought it back. Now why was the city tainted and empty? Fen'heral created the veil. Why? I think because the elven "gods" had become tainted. By creating the veil he sealed them off from the seat of their power - the Golden City - and they either fell asleep beneath the earth themselves or else were imprisoned / hiding from Fen'heral and his followers. Remember, he actually led an uprising against the gods so all this would be taking place amidst a war against them. I think that elven god who sought out the Forgotten Ones brought back the taint originally and spread it to the Golden City and her fellow gods. Fen'heral was essentially carrying out a containment operation with the veil. But I think it's clear he didn't know the full consequences of that and has spent the intervening time figuring out a way to safely undo it. At least in part. I believe the Taint is a physical infection. The soul that was reclaimed by Morrigan into her child seemed 'cleansed' once it was free of the corrupted body of the arch demon. But I could be wrong in that. I don't know how Red Lyrium fits into this but we saw the "Titan" in The Descent DLC. Is it possible that Arduin was once below ground but is now trapped in the Fade? Could the Titan be one of the Forgotten Ones or are they something else? Honestly, I'm not sure where I was going with any of this by this point! ;) All I can say for definite is, in the words of Sera: "The Dalish. Are going. To. Shit themselves." :D
@LemosArt0987
@LemosArt0987 9 жыл бұрын
Informative and well structured video, thanks a lot!
@onlycorndog6322
@onlycorndog6322 7 жыл бұрын
While Corypheus was the Magister who performed the massive blood magic ritual to enter the fade, the Architect was the magister who designed the ritual itself.
@kayefore7185
@kayefore7185 6 жыл бұрын
I've heard people say that the Architect was one of the seven magisters and there is certainly a visual resemblance between him and Corypheus, but is this actually stated anywhere? Because I never came across anything saying that in the games. I may have missed it.
@cracmar03
@cracmar03 6 жыл бұрын
+ Kaye Fore - The name itself "the Architect" is clue. He WAS there in Golden/Black City. The Architect is title for high priest of Urthemiel - 'The Architect of Works of Beauty'. As Corypheus did not used his name only title 'The Conductor' (of Dumat). To my memory there was 2 females and 5 males - I may be incorrect. Those were: the Conductor of Silence (Dumat - Corypheus) the Architect of the Works of Beauty (Urthemiel - Architect) the Forgewright of Fire (Toth - unknown) the Watchman of Night (Lusacan - unknown) the Appraiser of Slavery (Andoral - unknown) the Augur of Mystery (Razikale - unknown) the Madmen of Chaos (Zazikiel - unknown)
@TheMentorKing
@TheMentorKing 10 жыл бұрын
If the Wardens know where the Old Gods are, then Corypheus, after possessing either of the Grey Wardens at the end of Legacy, will have the knowledge of where they are.
@jamiegould5191
@jamiegould5191 7 жыл бұрын
Will you do an updated version of these videos? Since we've learned much more in the past 3 years.
@godymcgork481
@godymcgork481 10 жыл бұрын
After watching this I realised my Elf(Who is a good person) did a weird blood magic ritual with a sinister witch to make an evil god child AND went into the mirror. I DUNNO IF I RUINED EVERYTHING OR NOT
@ytstopemailingme
@ytstopemailingme 5 жыл бұрын
I saw a theory stating that the Archdemons/Old Gods essentially act as "seals" for the Black City and whatever entity is sealed within their could be the origin of the Blight.
@subject6907
@subject6907 8 жыл бұрын
The format is so good!
@Trialwolf
@Trialwolf 10 жыл бұрын
When a Blight ends....... politics and religion take over. You will have people jockeying for power and factions attempting to impose there will. When there is weakness there will be people ready to exploit it and the end of a blight many will be weak and still mending there wounds, while others attempt to revise history to fit there beliefs and alter perceptions so that it appears events that have passed were due to the powers they themselves wield or preach.
@Sonicring123Dubs
@Sonicring123Dubs 10 жыл бұрын
Lovely video once again~
@Atrotic
@Atrotic 10 жыл бұрын
One key thing to point out in this conflict as well as a major part of the series is the effect that blood has overall. It seems to have a major effect on everything in the series. Blood Magic itself is also tied into demons as well in which both the taint and demons come from the fade. I imagine the answer lies in the Black City - Even if the remaining to Old Gods are killed I am not sure that it ends the "Calling" - The Old Gods were around before the first Darkspawn. If you look to the religions of the world - Something they have in common is the Black City. For the Chantry it is the Maker's home - For the Elves it was where the Gods are trapped. Even Demons fear and know that the Black City is different and do not go near. It's where the Darkspawn originate from.
@crazyshark51
@crazyshark51 9 жыл бұрын
My theory is that the golden city is actually a prison containing a extremely powerful being possible the first demon, wanting to escape it tried to call out to its progeny but failed so it found another a way to call out to the old gods promising power to free it, but the old gods couldn't, so they acquired the aid of the magisters to break the being out but its darkness effected the golden city and turned it black, the magisters opened a portal and entered it a along side old gods, but the magister were corrupted by the darkness then some form of security system forced them out and resulted in the old gods being forced underground and the magisters to roam thades as the first darkspawn.
@therender2012
@therender2012 9 жыл бұрын
That's an awesome theory dude!
@hakim6933
@hakim6933 9 жыл бұрын
That's an interesting theory given that most demons avoid going there; if an Evil being currently inhabits the Black City, it could be the antithesis of the Maker or even a Corrupted Maker; not unlike how Justice became Vengeance.
@Macder10
@Macder10 9 жыл бұрын
some holes tho: -The old gods were already imprisoned before the magisters went into the fade. Thats the entire reason they couldn't go themself -Its entirely possible that like the maker none of the magisters actually saw the old gods before the first blight but only heard them. this can be assumed because of corypheus final cry before dying: "Dumat ancient ones i beseech you! IF YOU EXISTED IF YOU EVER TRULY EXISTED AID ME NOW! this basically means he is not sure of their existance.
@Isaiflamand
@Isaiflamand 7 жыл бұрын
The golden city is actually arlathan the elven capital. Elvhenan empire was way more powerful than Tevinter because the fade and thedas only make one this is why the elves were immortal. In my opinion the old gods were literally dragons in Dragon age inquisition when you see tevinter architecture you can see a dragon head. Anyway I don't think that there is no god in Dragon age universe. The elven would-be-gods were very powerful mage, and the old gods were dragons and andraste and the maker are just a tales created by fanatics
@maxiumg4542
@maxiumg4542 7 жыл бұрын
Mithal is a dragon. In the camp of the elves, the sculpted heads of dragons subscribe as elven gods.
@apoctriforce
@apoctriforce 9 жыл бұрын
I hope there will be more delving into the deep roads in Inquisition. Much more information to learn on the darkspawn.
@Sauronisbest
@Sauronisbest 10 жыл бұрын
I always liked the Idea of teaming up with the Darkspawn - The Architect seemed reasonable and not inherently evil (misguided at his worst). I think it would be quite possible for Players in Inquisition or later Games to even recruit the Help of an old Gold himself against the newest dangerous Threat. The Demons of Inquisition could easily be such a Threat, as they pose a Menace to all of Thedas - maybe including the Darkspawn itself.
@SNBullen0002
@SNBullen0002 7 жыл бұрын
love your work, you deserve more subs.
@brettonalwood4173
@brettonalwood4173 10 жыл бұрын
I believe it will only end when the old gods are taken care of one way or another because as seen in Awakening even when the Call is gone Darkspawn will still search for the Old Gods to hear the sweet melody.
@Silas-ev9qd
@Silas-ev9qd 7 жыл бұрын
It is so fucking hot when people know their Thedas!
@arion2000
@arion2000 10 жыл бұрын
The way you put together these info gives me hope for a whole compelling story, I just hope bioware does not screws it up for all of us. I have always had suspicion about the chantry, it is likely to be a version of truth used to convince the masses of the surface of the problem, not the underlying source of the problem.
@UserCdk1
@UserCdk1 10 жыл бұрын
Oh heck no, there better not be only two more blights x.x I want like 10 more games! haha
@slytf1268
@slytf1268 10 жыл бұрын
Not every game has to be centered around the blight. DA2 and Inquisition are proof of this. There will probably be like, 6 games in between each blight.
@Ladyinsanity
@Ladyinsanity 10 жыл бұрын
There's a chance that the story may engage in resolving the Blights without involving the Old Gods, but we won't know until the next game x_x
@UserCdk1
@UserCdk1 10 жыл бұрын
SlyTF1 hehe, Yes of course. I was just over exaggerating. :)
@redembers224
@redembers224 10 жыл бұрын
5 game plan though :) only 3 more :(
@Ladyinsanity
@Ladyinsanity 10 жыл бұрын
It's minimum 5 games. Mike Laidlaw says there will still be more to come!
@ThaPimpminista
@ThaPimpminista 10 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy these da talk videos! But to answer your question, I think we've got at least 3 more games b4 we see an end. Once ALL archdemons are destroyed & all darkspawn are exterminated. I have a feeling Morrigans child will be our main character by the last game, and he'll be the once to "set things right"
@nekoloverforlife1748
@nekoloverforlife1748 10 жыл бұрын
But what if someone didn't do the ritual? I suppose they could retcon and say she did it with Riodarn or whatever his name was...or Alistair.
@tymemaster
@tymemaster 9 жыл бұрын
Need an update for this talk using inquisition footage ie my warden looking to find an end to the calling
@ulrocks23
@ulrocks23 10 жыл бұрын
Great vid, Ashe. As for ending the Blights, I agree that The Taint/Calling are what need to be ended, not necessarily the Old Gods themselves. I believe that something bad might happen once all 7 Old Gods are defeated.
@VValentine2209
@VValentine2209 8 жыл бұрын
My theory is that when Mythal was murdered, like the old gods her spirit when to Andraste or something along those lines. Or Andraste could have also been and elf like Ameridan, but because the Imperium hated Elves they erased that history. As far as Andraste fighting Magic. Its similar to Solas story that he too fought Magic also side Mythal. With those parallels, I think Mythal and Andraste are connected and Solas is the main person that connects the two
@jessicabeech8795
@jessicabeech8795 10 жыл бұрын
Spoilers for Assunder. I don't know if I am way off base but I recently read through Assunder and came across something interesting, in relation to the song. Now I noticed that Cole who we later find out is a 'spirit' can actually here a song - in relation to there travel to the fade and the weakened veil near the old warden keep. So I was thinking is this the same song as the old gods, or is the song even truly tied to the old gods. Has a new 'old god' awakened.
@chancerobinson7610
@chancerobinson7610 10 жыл бұрын
I believe the main question about the old god baby and Morrigan is where did the mirror take them, for if we knew then that might be an important piece of the puzzle.
@camikaze1462
@camikaze1462 10 жыл бұрын
Gigantic fan of dragon age, good to know more about it
@dragongeode1993
@dragongeode1993 9 жыл бұрын
The fade reflects mortal emotion and memory. what was once a golden city in dreams, a place of golden light, a heavenlike area perhaps, a dream world. Then the magistars arrived their greed, violence, envy, essentially their sin was reflected back in the golden city. Turning it black.
@ricardo27fernandes
@ricardo27fernandes 10 жыл бұрын
Great Video. Congratulations.
@oxyman10
@oxyman10 9 жыл бұрын
While Corypheus is the focus here, what about the Architect?? is he a magister like Corypheus, the seven high priests of the old gods who conducted a magical ritual to seize the golden city. He certainly fits the bill in my opinion, he shows the distorted corrupted human features that Cory shows, he wears clothing that is very similar to Corypheus's, his intelligence and magical prowess are what one would expect of an ancient Tevinter Magister. A codex entry in inquisition written by a dwarf speaks encountering Darkspawn who spoke like kings, they argued about a golden city before turning on each other. If he is a magister like I suspect, then he possesses the same ability as Corypheus so it doesn't matter if he was killed in Awakening. Will he return??? Should be interesting to see how he ties in with how inquisition ended.
@alexrababah9500
@alexrababah9500 10 жыл бұрын
you tell this so beautifully... tell Bioware to hire you as a voice actress somehow!
@carlobarro9926
@carlobarro9926 9 жыл бұрын
What if the old gods are the 1st created spirits of the maker who became jealous of the maker's love for mortals and betrayed the maker by making the magisters learn of the forbidden magic, caused the golden city to be tainted with sin? Corrupted spirits become demons from what i've read. Maker then banished the old gods to the land of mortals, and imprisoned them deep under. And somehow the old gods were still able to manipulate and communicate with the magisters to come to the forbidden city (which is already tainted) to be infected themselves causing the maker to lose interest for mortals, thrown them back to the land of the living to spread their taint. And then what if the blight is only a means of these old gods to free themselves from their cage and taint, having the wardens kill them so that their souls will travel to the wardens body that has a resistance from the taint cause the taint to be nullified allowing them to go back to the fade. that would explain why Dumat can still communicate with the living in DA:2 right? and if my theory is somewhat close to the truth, then maybe this elder one from DA:I is, in fact Dumat? the 1st and leader of the archdemons? And also this would back up what everyone's thinking about flemeth being an old god. Got freed from the taint and possessed a woman's body. Or of course maybe I'm just speculating too much which i tend to do... a lot. lol! I just can't wait to play DA:I
@jacobbaker7159
@jacobbaker7159 10 жыл бұрын
I have a question. At the end of DA2 Cassandra mentions both the Warden and Hawke have gone missing. Has there been any mention of their involvement in DAI?
@oielvert
@oielvert 10 жыл бұрын
The Chant of Light could be right about the origin of the darkspawn and yet be completely wrong about the Maker and his return. There's a Rome in the Bible. That doesn't mean Jesus rose from the dead.
@VValentine2209
@VValentine2209 8 жыл бұрын
Anyone else the similarity between Andraste and Mythal. Most notable after Inquistion that Mythal and Solas knew one another and confirmed in Trespassers. And some one pointed that out that a few portraits of Andraste had a bold mage holding and orb. Which we also know that Solas had one as well.
@SereneLogic
@SereneLogic 10 жыл бұрын
It's always possible we'll see either the Architect or Morrigan's child corrupt the last two Old Gods at the same time.
@WelshSymbioteSpartan
@WelshSymbioteSpartan 10 жыл бұрын
Be interesting to start seeing the Darkspawn entering the fade lol. Maybe in DA: I we will meet a self aware Darkspawn who isn't hostile and could be a companion, now that would pretty cool
@justanerd8160
@justanerd8160 10 жыл бұрын
I think that the blights will never truly end
@Terror620
@Terror620 9 жыл бұрын
I was really hoping that Inquisition would explain what the Old Gods were, what the Taint was that the magisters found and what happened with the Maker in the first place. Now I don't even know if there will be another DA game to ever explain it :( It's such an interesting topic that you can come up with endless theories, I think there needs to be some official explanation for the series to feel like a complete story.
@fai1t0liv3
@fai1t0liv3 10 жыл бұрын
I would find it interesting if the next Blight featured two Archdemons. At this point Blights have become sort of a routine in Thedas, and while still dire and unpredictable, they just don't invoke the same sense of "oh god!" as they used too.
@mobius1b470
@mobius1b470 10 жыл бұрын
The blight ending with the last archdemon seems to easy more than likely when the last old god falls some apocalyptic event will occur. Given Bioware's track record of making villains have some sort of sympathetic reasoning behind their actions it would not surprise me to find the old gods have been attempting to stop some greater evil. Perhaps the maker the chantry worships is not as benevolent as we have been led to believe or perhaps the eleven gods will return with vengeance. All you can be sure of is that whatever Bioware dose it is going to be interesting
@EmperorOnimusha
@EmperorOnimusha 9 жыл бұрын
Did anyone notice Morrgins outfit in the trailer is the same as what her and leliana talk about in one of their ban Leliana talk about in one of their banterz
@DewoftheDutch
@DewoftheDutch 10 жыл бұрын
I would say that the Darkspawn taint is the call of the Old Gods. The song that the Mother speaks of is the call of the Old Gods. The Architect will prove itself either to be a, method to end the cycle of the blights or something even worse. On another note, I have a theory. I believe that red lyrium is somehow connected to the Old Gods. As it has shown with Bartrand in DA2 that he spoke of a song, and when he didn't hear it drove him crazy. So I believe some answers may lie within the red lyrium as it might have a connection with the Old Gods.
@gracenbrett
@gracenbrett 10 жыл бұрын
I just wanna get to the dragon age game where all your companions are all your old characters :D
@Macder10
@Macder10 9 жыл бұрын
starting team: Hero of Ferelden,Orlesian Warden commander,Hawke,The inquisitor.
@klassytome
@klassytome 8 жыл бұрын
Like Corypheus the Architect may be one of the Magisters who entered the Black City. Like Cotypheus he is mistaken for another Darkspawn. That means he can't be killed with a common weapon. Even if the Warden kills The Architect in Awakening, well Hawke thought Corypheus was dead too.
@davidroot118
@davidroot118 7 жыл бұрын
The Architect is one of those Magisters, he was the High Priest of Urthemiel, much as Corypheus was the High Priest of Dumat, however, there is one key difference between him and Corypheus... Corypheus is fully of who he was before he became corrupted, and retains much of his former identity. The Architect, however, does not remember that he was once a Magister. He only realizes that he is a rather special Darkspawn capable of more. Why does he not know who he once was? Was it perhaps because the Wardens never found and imprisoned him as they did Corypheus, and he simply forgot over the ages? I also believe that The Architect could use the Darkspawn Taint to survive much as Corypheus could. While I don't think The Architect has the amount of malice that Corypheus has, the fear of death, I do think that he would use the Taint to regenerate if it would help him continue his plans.
@seanengelgau5496
@seanengelgau5496 6 жыл бұрын
Imagine a blight with the last two Archdemons at once. That would be a wonderful way to up the scale for the next game.
@Adreamofshadow
@Adreamofshadow 10 жыл бұрын
I think when the blight ends, a new threat will come. A lot of things will disappear including the grey wardens maybe and a new group of hero's will join together to form a legion. This threat probably will worser than the blight.
@doktorbone
@doktorbone 7 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see more self aware darkspawn and to be able to play as them in a dragon age game it would be cool to see the self aware darkspawn becoming allies with over races to stop further blights and save their unaware brethren.
@YoshtTheAwesome
@YoshtTheAwesome 10 жыл бұрын
Even when the archdemons are all dead, there are other creatures that can mimic their call, such as Corypheus (don't know if I spelled that right) because if Corypheus is one of the old magisters that became the first darkspawn, there must be more and I don't think they were ever encountered by the Wardens. I also believe the Architect is one of them but lost his memory of that for some reason.
@1xXx2012xXx1
@1xXx2012xXx1 7 жыл бұрын
we all know that the final fight will be in minrathous on an attempt to open the path the elves of old and the magisters opened way too long, but what we need to know is when the games will appear :V
@CalobAdamsInfamous913
@CalobAdamsInfamous913 10 жыл бұрын
Either way, Morrigan and Flemeth have some juicy details on what the hell is with the Old Gods. And I assume the wardens do too.
@ReconClone
@ReconClone 10 жыл бұрын
There might be another Darkspawn like The Architect to emerge after the Arch Demons are destroyed or reborn. Maybe the Circle of Magi could trap the Darkspawn in the fade like in Awakening. But I can't see the Darkspawn living peacefully with the other races. Especially considering how they breed. Even after becoming aware they can still spread the corruption.
@MajorShepard
@MajorShepard 10 жыл бұрын
Hmm I think the Blight won't end with the Archdemons. I think the sound is actually coming from whatever corrupted the Golden city before the arrival of the Tevinter mages, with the Archdemons acting as speakers. And I think, if the Maker is real or in a sense a sort of "Force" that deals with life, it would be the opposite of the maker. Instead of creating life it creates death and decay. Destruction is its goal, not creation, and it took control of the Golden city and corrupted it, causing the Tevinter mages to become the first Darkspawn. It might have also had a hand at making the dragons become evil. We don't know much about what the Old gods were actually like before they started teaching men how to use blood magic. They could've been good dragons or ones that didn't really interfere with others, but got corrupted by the dark. Or maybe there is no Maker and the corruption is the Natural state of the fade. The golden city was ALWAYS corrupted and the entity is either an extremely powerful spirit or something else entirely. And it got me thinking about that theory that Andraste was a mage. Maybe the voices she heard that told her to fight Tevinter was the opposite entity to the corruption that was spreading. Similar to how the Archdemon's control darkspawn Andraste was being told what to do by a voice. If she was a mage then maybe the voice came from Lyrium, and maybe Lyrium IS the "Maker"...which would mean the Red lyrium is the corruption...or maybe I am looking too far into this...buts its something to think about at least.
@jakisz
@jakisz 10 жыл бұрын
Hard to say about Andraste, because I don't think the Maker really exist, or the creators. The dwarfs had a book (gift for Wynne) that said she wasn't the Maker's chosen but an extremely powerful mage. Orghen stated that it wasn't the Ashes that might be blessed by the Maker, but had powerful lasting effects from the Lyrium from the mountain. So it might be something else entirely that is doing everything for the corruption. The spirits and demons don't even know. However, this does raise one question, while non-spirits and non-demons, have a idea of the golden city, why hasn't the spirits told anyone of the golden or black city? I know we had no idea where to look, but I would think someone from the fade would know something about it.
@MajorShepard
@MajorShepard 10 жыл бұрын
jakisz My point exactly. I was actually talking about that book you mentioned, I just couldn't remember the name :P If we truly want to know we need to ask the inhabitants of the fade for answers, preferably ones that have existed since the beginning. But I don't think the Chantry, or anyone at the moment, would want anyone to know. If the truth ended up being the Maker doesn't exist then that puts the Chantry in a very dangerous position, their would be riots for and against the religion, the world could be headed for a disaster of biblical proportions. Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes...The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria! So yeah a lot would happen.
@nekoloverforlife1748
@nekoloverforlife1748 10 жыл бұрын
I thought the tevinter learned blood magic during the 1st encounter with Arlanthan and the Original elves.
@Thesorrow333
@Thesorrow333 10 жыл бұрын
I don't know about everyone else but what happed to the wardern who end the blight in the first game and where is hawke from the 2nd game ???
@Lady_LaLa
@Lady_LaLa 9 жыл бұрын
My theory on the Darkspawn and the Old Gods: Since by the time the Architect was born, more than half of the Old Gods had been slain, the Architect's sentience is a sign that the "song" is beginning to weaken. IF all of the Old Gods are awakened and slain, ALL Darkspawn might become like he is, resulting in a Blight that may have NO end unless all Darkspawn are killed or all other races of Thedas are Tainted.
@ccotunai
@ccotunai 9 жыл бұрын
wat. that's scary because it makes sense ....
@cozzbutt
@cozzbutt 9 жыл бұрын
What a brilliant theory. i'm adopting it until proven otherwise. Also: terrifying.
@Lady_LaLa
@Lady_LaLa 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah... Kinda scared myself when I put all these facts together, but also kinda hoping it's right. I'd love to play as a character facing those kind of odds
@saadomar001
@saadomar001 10 жыл бұрын
The way I would like it to be: The child conceived by Morrigan and the Grey Warden becomes the hero of some future game, who takes out the other two old gods. That would be bad ass, and I would love to play that. Unfortunately, There is the possibility that the child was never to be (should the Grey Warden refuse Morrigan), making it unlikely that anything related to that child will become Cannon. I bet that child would've been some kind of unstoppable force, would've been as fun as playing Kratos, Master Chief or Superman/Hulk.
@oliviamoore3426
@oliviamoore3426 3 жыл бұрын
It’s highly hinted that the blight existed before the tevinter empire
@tylerkane5603
@tylerkane5603 10 жыл бұрын
okay i like this theory i want to know what happen to the hero of ferleden and hawk ...i had the warden marry Alistair and hawk runs away with Anders so what happen to them in the end of dragon age 2 they say that hawk and the warden are missing so what happens to my favorite powerful characters or are they just die
@spikegilfer1997
@spikegilfer1997 7 жыл бұрын
If Flemeth intervened to gain Urthemiel's soul, is it possible her or somebody else (Or both, in the form of Mythal.) may have conspired to do the same in earlier Blights?
@jakisz
@jakisz 10 жыл бұрын
When a Blight ends, thousands a pond thousands of Darkspawn are killed, however when a Blight does begin there is always that much Darkspawn. Even if it takes a few centuries between Blights that is a real high production rate. And if there really is another Blight after only 10 years, that means there is that many again. So, I doubt when all of the Archdemons is dead all of the Darkspawn will be as well. Awakening proved that something else is capable of leading the Darkspawn. I let the Architect live and did the baby god ritual, so new my playthough at the very least, I'm going have to find a new way to end the Blights.
@christinajenkins4192
@christinajenkins4192 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you elk wayward most people dismiss my theory. Its nice to find someone who agrees.
@MortalReaver
@MortalReaver 9 жыл бұрын
I think Fen Harel sealed Old Gods(Forgotten Ones, from elven pantheon) by creating the Veil, so that they could not go back into the Fade, sealing them in the world of mortals. He then spoke to Andraste to stop the Tevinters from realising them but failed.
@zorrozoronducksaucekingofq8140
@zorrozoronducksaucekingofq8140 7 жыл бұрын
good video
@The_Warden
@The_Warden 6 жыл бұрын
I want another blight... But that may just be in hopes that DA regains the dark, gritty, real feel of the Origins. Wouldn't hurt to let me play as old man Warden again either...
@kainpureevil7173
@kainpureevil7173 10 жыл бұрын
Hey ashe, i was thinking of like this: Flemeth has some sort of knowledge of the future, we saw her tell the future to hawke in the very beginning. She has to be more then just a demon or abomination. She IS an old god i think. How do we know that the old gods couldnt turn into human form? "What if i am a dragon?" ~Flemeth. I think she has some intricate plan with the old god baby.
@Kouyou160
@Kouyou160 10 жыл бұрын
Are there subtitles for these videos? I can't understand what you're saying sometimes
@RoyaCanadianInfantry
@RoyaCanadianInfantry 10 жыл бұрын
In the lore or on the wiki i saw that 10% or more of the human population in Fereldan still believe to the old barbarian gods of the Alamarri tribes who are living on West on Frostback Mountains
@jamessanford1880
@jamessanford1880 10 жыл бұрын
I would like to know if the Inquisitor and Morgan's love child with the warden are one in the same. A child born with the soul of a god with unknown power, if I heard correctly the veil tears can only be closed by the Inquisitor. That makes me wonder if there is a connection. And if not then I wonder what the child's role will be
@The_Crimson_Fucker
@The_Crimson_Fucker 10 жыл бұрын
Here is an idea, what if the Inquisitor which you play in Inquisition is Morrigan's child(provided that you preformed the ritual)?
@Saicere
@Saicere 10 жыл бұрын
What I'm most curious about, is what happens if a darkspawn taints morrigans child, does that mean another arch demon?
@bindair_dundat
@bindair_dundat 8 жыл бұрын
The Architect could have survived the Warden killing him the same way Corypheus survived dying countless times. Even if he is not one of the 7 Magisters, he is way more than regular darkspawn. I don't think a Blight could be a real threat anytime soon. There are usually centuries between Blights, and the Fifth was started prematurely by the Architect. That is why it was so weak and only threatend one nation. Even if another Archdemon, or both, awakened within the next 10 years, what forces could they muster to be a real threat? When they decide to do the next Blight, they really need to ramp things up. Like darkening the skies everywhere, or something. The Mother was one of the earliest experiments of an awakened darkspawn. I'm pretty sure given a few years to finish his research, the Architect would be able to truly awaken any darkspawn. I trust him because he is like Legion was in Mass Effect. And even though Oghren was never known for his wisdom, he was right saying that while the surface is only threatened by Blights, the dwarven kingdoms are in constant threat of the darkspawn. So any way of making them less evil gotta be worth it. And I really want a darkspawn companion in the next game. Something similar to the Messenger of Awakening.
@xanditz
@xanditz 8 жыл бұрын
+Bindair Dundat I just post the same thought. Sorry! I didn't see yours before. But I agree with that! =)
@andrewvincent7299
@andrewvincent7299 8 жыл бұрын
The Architect was revealed to be one of the 7 magisters who went to the black city. I don't remember if it was revealed in Inquisition or the latest book on the History of Thedas. The Architect was the high priest of Urthemiel. Corypheus was obviously the High Priest of Dumat. Dumat spoke to Corypheus and told him to go to the Black City where he would ascend to Godhood. Corypheus couldn't do it alone so he ended up convincing the Architect to help him and in turn they convinced the rest of the High Priests of each respective old god to join the expedition. The Architect was only a nickname he took for the expedition and Corpheus took on the nickname of The Conductor. No one knows why Coryheus managed to keep his memories about everything and The Architect did not.
@gangrel321
@gangrel321 10 жыл бұрын
my thought is this what if flemeth already has four god children, if you look up morrigans name it is the name of an old irish god...whats bioware up to i wonder?
@N7Whore
@N7Whore 10 жыл бұрын
Ashe with Yavana dead and morrigan renegade how will you think flemeth will preserve her life farther?
@9tailedKitsune
@9tailedKitsune 9 жыл бұрын
Based on what Solas says about the Black City being closer than ever when you visit the Fade in Inquisition, and Solas' exchange at the end of the game, I'm inclined to think that the Magisters actions, the creation of the Darkspawn, and Corypheus' actions are part of a larger scheme by some as yet unidentified power/entity. It's possible that the idea of the return of the Maker regarding the Chant of Light is a distortion of what might actually be part of the end result of this "master plan." Makes me think of Convergence in Dead Space.
@oldladytrexarms
@oldladytrexarms 8 жыл бұрын
+Yukari Yakumo I will say this- Go and either buy, play, or watch someone play the Trespasser DLC. You're pretty spot on. But, I won't spoil it for you. :)
@9tailedKitsune
@9tailedKitsune 8 жыл бұрын
+Liz ard have already seen it yes, and loved it. I just wonder if Solas' explanation there can be linked to the creation of the Darkspawn and the nature of the Old Gods.
@vDorgengoa
@vDorgengoa 9 жыл бұрын
Can you do an Elven Pantheon Talk?
@relaygaming3308
@relaygaming3308 10 жыл бұрын
Who/What will end the blight you ask Ashe? Psst my main Dalish Warden(Vath) Will! >:D
@RotaFury
@RotaFury 10 жыл бұрын
What i would like to see is that the Archdemon's the "Old Gods" shown as really only a small part of the real threat. Or perhaps they are just like any of the other darkspawn and are being controlled or such by the song. That is just my personal thoughts anyways.
@TheAfroGuyCleo
@TheAfroGuyCleo 10 жыл бұрын
i hope in one of the DA games we get to play as the Morrigan and The Wardens kids. I think that kid will end up either destroying the world or enslaving it or saving it, i mean he has the power of an old god don't know which one but still hope we get to play as him/her in one of the next games.
@Balinux
@Balinux 8 жыл бұрын
Nowhere in the game is said that the blackcity was already corrupted before the magisters got there. They only saw the darkness because they where there, so if they did taint it, they wouldn't have seen anything else to begin with. Records do say that the blackcity used to be golden before they got there. So that answers that.
@Blackemperess
@Blackemperess 8 жыл бұрын
+Balinux Propaganda. Stories are often changed and twisted to suit the teller and religion is a strong arbiter of twisting details to suit it's needs. Corypheus himself states that the city was already black. Mother Giselle hits back with a weak excuse about him wanting to believe that was the case, but I'd be more inclined to take the word of the guy who had front row seats over the backseat drivers wearing facial masks.
@Balinux
@Balinux 8 жыл бұрын
Blackemperess You don't get it. The magisters themselfs thought the city was golden back in the day, that was the whole point. "It was supposed to be golden! It was supposed to be ours!" - Corypheus DA2 Legacy. They only found out about the darkness once they where there. So if it wasn't golden when they got closer, then there has to be a reason, and the first violation is the only confirmed constant so far.
@Blackemperess
@Blackemperess 8 жыл бұрын
Balinux As far as Thedas's pock marked 'history' knows, they were the first to go there. But they couldn't have been. Not if the theory that the Black City is a piece of Arlathan or one of the Evanuris' strongholds that they were put into holds water. The magisters are the only ones the modern people of Thedas know about that were able to physically enter the fade and that has been put through the shredder for the sole purpose of religious doctrine. Bioware themselves have stated that not everything in Dragon Age put on paper is true and is just as much a victim of skewed viewpoints/bias as anything else. Especially where the Chantry is concerned.
@Balinux
@Balinux 8 жыл бұрын
Blackemperess But there was no chantry when the magisters entered the fade. I'll say it again, Corypheus confirms that the magisters thought that the city was golden. So that notion prevails over chantry propaganda and fan theory.
@elmurdoc
@elmurdoc 10 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video, one question: What if the Architect wakes up a Old God and achieve to give him awareness, freehim from the curse of the blight, that will be good or will be even worse? after all is a god... The Child of Morrigan and the Warden, i think i will be something like Revan on Kotor, but it should be for DA4, with Flemeth and (my personal wish) Sandal :)
@jakisz
@jakisz 10 жыл бұрын
I don't think the Architect would do that, because he already tried that and it failed. He seems smart enough to not make the same mistakes. He is most likely got something else planned now.
@elmurdoc
@elmurdoc 10 жыл бұрын
jakisz maybe, or maybe he learn from he mistake maybe need something else to complete the ritual something like the child, or something that will appear in DA:I
@jakisz
@jakisz 10 жыл бұрын
Ernesto Sutil He didn't really repeat the plans from the second book "The Calling." There he wanted to spread the corruption to everyone as to in Awakening to give the Darkspawn independence. He may try something to give them there independence that would be a big risk, but I don't think he be willing to make that mistake again.
@AncientApricot
@AncientApricot 10 жыл бұрын
If we are to believe the magister we kill in DA:2, then Dumat betrayed his people and forced them to become corrupted by the black city. This could tell us that the Old gods are infact not necessarily tainted by the darkspawn but already evil, and that the only reason they call for them is to be freed from the makers prison. I feel that the Old gods did this on purpose, they willingly asked their subjects to step into the black city to bring corruption from the fade into Thaedas, thus forming an army of their own which they could use to enslave the rest of the world and beat down the false religion of the Chantry.
@matthewmartinez3907
@matthewmartinez3907 4 жыл бұрын
Somehow I feel like something big and terrible will happen when the last Old God is tainted and destroyed. I mean Solas did say that killing the Old Gods may make things worse when that Venetori Mage spoke of using that demon army.
@AwashimaSeriLieutenant
@AwashimaSeriLieutenant 7 жыл бұрын
Ashe has such a beautiful voice ^^
@kiiper13
@kiiper13 10 жыл бұрын
one question I got though, at the end of DA 2 they say the warden and the champion hawke disappeared, and they cant find them. I think flemeth took them but ive no proof, and another thing to, if you romanced lillianna do you think shes going to mention the warden a lot, I think itd be awesome if she did
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