The thing is, RM isn’t being forced to changing his way of thinking to please an audience, but he chooses to. When he wrote the so called misogynistic lyrics he wasn't trying to offend anybody, he was just creating a song about raging hormones. But to better help him understand why people would take offense to the song, he consulted with people who can inform him of these things. Wanting to change your way of thinking and better understand the people who have a different perspective as you isn't oppression but growth. RM is the type of person who is constantly studying the world around him, for a guy as young as he is, he really comes off as a person who has lived centuries, but as a fan you can see the changes he has gone through and how he portrays wisdom and his self assurance.

One thing that i think you're missing is that these entertainment companies DID try to branch out to the wider world and wider markets. BTS is not just big in Korea. Those graphs you saw where BTS accounts for 51% of market share actually represent global music markets. BTS is bigger than kpop no matter what country's market you look at. So when you say "why didnt BTS try to go to other places like the US?" Well, they did. And they succeeded. Thats why you know who they are. It's not that Koreans listen to them a lot and love them enough that they're suddenly getting global attention and earning new fans globally, its that they already have fans (and a lot of them) all over the globe. Their US shows sell out and most of those tickets are bought by US citizens.

BTS are globally succesful. I'm an ARMY from Dubai - and BTS are the most popular foreign artist here.

Haters target one member than targeting them as a whole for a reason to break one member at a time to make them fall later on. It's not working on BTS because once one member is targeted, they act as a whole. You hurt one member, you hurt BTS. They are the perfect example of "One for all, all for one!" 💜

A stylist who worked on BTS's debut said that the idea of ​​heavy and smoky makeup that BTS used was his and was inspired by international fashion and was basically a disruptive pattern because heavy makeup was only intended for female use at least. In South Korea, I guess it was a way to stand out since at that time the idols had to be soft and pretty Korean style. While it is true Being different brought many attacks on BTS, it was also the key to being noticed by an international audience. Let's not forget that BTS was first successful internally before being recognized in Korea.

It's because BTS took their careers into their own hands and blew everybody out of the water. The big 3 SME, YG, JYP could not stop them. Independently they took over the world with their music and their ARMY. 💜💜

I'm 76 and just started following BTS recently. I'm learning everything I can about them and love them dearly.

So nice to see a father and son hanging out together. Need more of this in the world.

Thanks guys. I have been an ARMY since 2014 and unfortunately this is barely the tip of the iceberg. The vitriol that ARMY and BTS have been subjected to year after year is unbelievable. At one point, if you were an ARMY in South Korean, you had to hide it. Bullies who were fans of other groups were harassing and even physically attacking ARMYs. They would also get an ARMY's personal information and release it online encouraging others to harrass them. It was so sad. There was nothing we as international ARMY could do other than just calling out the behaviour online. Because BTS were treated so badly, we ARMY determined that we would make them so successful that no one would be able to treat them that way again....and we have..and they still get tons of crap but at least they are successful enough now that they don't have to subject themselves to it. I was part of a team that organized accounts in the US to request BTS to be played on the radio starting back in 2017. You would not even believe the shit DJs and radio programmers, station managers, etc said to us. You have no idea what ARMY has put themselves through in an attempt to protect BTS. However, I want to say that that is absolutely no excuse for any person calling themselves and ARMY to attack, put down, bully, etc another human being. That is the opposite of what we as ARMY try to do. We try to spread love and positivity just like BTS. In fact, anyone who does those kinds of hurtful things may call themselves an ARMY but no one else does. There is a saying in the fandom that ARMY are the face of BTS. Everything we do is reflected back on them whether it is good or bad. Therefore, we try to make sure that we always show a good face to the world. However, when you have somewhere between 40 and 90 million fans from every country in the world, there are going to be bad apples. There is no avoiding it. It is just statistics. However, I would like to think that the overwhelming majority are good apples. If you would like to watch some more informative type videos about subjects involving BTS, check out a KZfaq channel called Boracity Magazine. They make great video essays. Thanks again.

At the time of their debut, Jin (the eldest) was only 20 years old and Jungkook (the youngest) was only 15. So, they wore school uniforms in their music videos, because the majority were, in fact, still in school. And how can you accuse someone of plagiarism for having on the same clothes, or having the same hair color or using similar props, when no one can claim ownership of such clothes, or haircolor or props! If you copy somebody's original song, or paraphrase another's writing or maybe someone's homework! ...that can be labelled as plagiarism. And regarding the issue about wearing make-up... almost everyone in the entertainment business, even in the US, use stage make-up. Even newscasters have make-up on when they broadcast on TV. It's really no big deal, and not just a kpop thing either.

Keep in mind that this is just a small portion of what they've dealt with. These guys have really been through the wringer. They've had racist remarks openly hurled at them while on the red carpet, fandoms teamed up against them as late as last week, the industry (national and international) constantly tries to keep them down by openly cheating or "suddenly" changing the rules because BTS and Big Hit categorically refuse to play the payola game, and so on.... I'm honestly amazed that they're still sane at this point. I also highly recommend Boracity Magazine's videos on BTS vs different entities in the music industry, like BTS vs radio or BTS vs Spotify. They're really well made and will give you a great insight into BTS and more importantly the industry as a whole, especially the North American market. Geez, the corruption.....allegedly. 😅 Last but not least and just to clarify: The misogynistic lyrics basically hinged on three things: Two tweets by RM where he covered snippets of US rap songs that *really* didn't translate well 🤭, the MV for Boy IN Love which mimicked trends in Korean Kdramas and the song War Of Hormone which is a funny look into the mind of a hormonal teenage boy and from the MV it's very clear (to me at least) that it wasn't meant to be taken so seriously. As a western woman I have absolutely no problems with the lyrics. In fact it's a total banger, I think you'd really like it. 🤘😎🤘 - a danish ARMY, age 47 💜

With regards to RM vetting his lyrics with a women's studies professor, I think you are missing a lot of cultural context here, in that feminism is not viewed in the same way at all in Korea as it is in the United States (as in the explicitly anti-woman presidential candidate won the last election there), so it's actually quite a subversive act to consult a feminist and openly declare oneself in favor of equal rights for women, which BTS has done multiple times. And it isn't as though BTS is censoring themselves when it comes to lyrics; I sincerely doubt people who read lyrics from the members post-this incident would say that they're holding anything back; they're just making sure they don't inadvertently cause damage or harm, which is quite different to censoring bigoted language.

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BTS isn’t just in America and in Asia. It’s everywhere . hits all markets in Africa, Europe , North and South America and obviously Asia oh I forgot Australia too Soo yeah the whole world. We are with BTS 💜

Before BTS, overseas (aka western) success for kpop was a literal fantasy. _No one_ thought kpop, much less any kpop grp, would actually be successful act outside the Asian music market. And that's bc big labels and grps have who tried before BTS all failed. So, Japan was really the targeted foreign market for kpop back then, and BTS _did_ make music to appeal to that market and were extremely successful there (I'd even say the growth of J-ARMY completely outpaced K-ARMY from the start bc even BTS's CEO stated that the grp's music was better received overseas than in SK during a live lecture on the program, Good Insight, and BTS were dominating Japanese charts before even getting their first music award in SK). And BTS _were_ the first kpop act to actually successfully break into the western markets beyond just a fad/trend. Their success is the primary reason kpop labels can even target western markets now bc BTS kept the doors open for kpop in those markets in the first place.

Whew! This is a tough one to get through. Celeste did a great job of getting a lot of the major issues into one video. It’s crazy that there are even more situations like this that have happened recently. As they continue to rise the hate continues as well. I have so much respect for the guys for their attitude toward all the animosity, they really try not to harbor resentment or even give the haters a bigger platform by responding to comments. 💜

Thank you so much for the reaction, this is the main reason why armys all over the world are extremely protective of BTS,we will always be there for BTS no matter what happens ARMY FOREVER 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜,you can react MAMA 2020 to make up for the video, borahae

To think that this video was only around 5% of what they endired for 1 decade. It's crazy. I admire OG armys who literally stood by their side dueing all those difficult days. Nonstop bashing & makimg sure they wont survive, but hey, they did. They came out d strongeat warrior of this dark & difficult industry. You see, no matter what country it is, there are haters. And that's very sad. That's y armys r really protective when it comes to bts. Thanks for your reaction.

39:04 BTS Went to the foreign market as the people overseas were giving a Lot love n support to them, But BTS can't completely backlash/leave the Kpop industry bcoz it was their base. their starting point. So they tried to be connected to the roots, even though they were often looked down by Korean pop industry. 37:12 BTS was breaking Records, but the Korean Media never gave attention to BTS, even though they always exagerated the small achievements of other groups. BTS came in Billborad charts, korean media paid negligible attention. BTS got Grammy Nomination (as the One and only Kpop group Ever to do tht), which is a Historic Moment. But the publicity by Korean Media over this was inconsiderate. The media didn't mention the fact tht BTS got a Grammy nomination n tht it's a Very Big Acomplishment, But they Highlighted tht BTS didn't get the Award in Grammys. It is ridiculous, like getting a Nomination in Grammy is an Enormous Achievement in itself as a Kpop artist. n Tht's how they always tried to put BTS down no matter wht

School uniforms were common themes in all groups. Hair colors - any color of the rainbow for all artists. Band PD and Big Hit never try to create controversy in the media for more news. They are very protective of their artists and have lawyers who will prosecute and take any threat or misinformation seriously. He didn’t have to go through sensitivity training but he proactively chose to consult with other people. Frankly, I think the lyrics were fine. Great reaction! I am really enjoying your reactions. 💜👍🏽🫶🏽😊

It's not just jealousy. They tried to block them so they found their own way round. That also had the effect of not channelling money through the industry. So BTS success does not make the industry rich. Instead of learning. The industry doubled down.

Imagine a perfect little ecosystem between major record labels and media companies that work together to sell them their music, TV programs and getting comercial and sponsors from big brands for years, then imagine a small “nobody” agency that was close to going bankrupt constantly outselling their artists and winning awards against them. That is why there’s always been so much sabotage and mistreatment. “BTS paved the way” by boracity magazine is a good video to understand the path BTS had to take to get into the American music market. They couldn’t do it through the “normal” connections between record labels bc their company was very small, IF (which is a big IF in the first place) major American labels were going to partner with any Korean label it would be the biggest and most influential in the business (they had to be part of that ecosystem of connections). “Why the industry is terrified of BTS” is also a good one to understand the relationship American companies want to have with foreign ones, like any major K-pop company.

BTS did not start out by recording in a garage. The Big Hit company was cash strapped and had made arrangements in conjunction with a Korean tv station to send members to LA to do a reality tv show learning hip hop from American practitioners, including some notables. Obviously there was cost splitting which left Big Hit with inadequate money to rent an American recording studio while away from their own so they set up in a garage with some rudimentary equipment. When Warren G who was part of the show caught wind of what was going on he lent out his LA studio. So the scene does reflect legitimate financial hardship, but the narrative allows for viewer interpretation that the album was completed in a garage.

the reason why people thought V was mocking another group is because he was mouthing the words to "LOSER" by BIG BANG after they won 1st place and so fans of the group that didn't win (not BIG BANG) thought he was mocking them for being "losers". i can definitely see why they would think that. it was an unfortunate coincidence but he definitely didn't mean it maliciously. edit: the misogynistic song they are talking about is "War of Hormone". and personally, i am not a fan of the song musically or the lyrics but that's because i was used to the BTS who wrote songs about living your dream and not caring what people think. when they released War of Hormone it shocked a lot of people because fans weren't used to or expecting that type of song. nothing is outright offensive in the lyrics it's just talking about womens bodies and being a little objectifying regarding liking women wearing "see through clothes", "girls tummies", and them asking women to "wear more high heels", because it makes them drip with sweat, that women are the best "creatures", etc. and a lot of the lyrics are them saying "because i'm a man" "my testosterone" "as a man" "I'm a bad boy so i like bad girl", etc. tbh i started listening to k-rap and k-pop because i was tired of listening to american rap and american music which a lot of the time is very vulgar and talks way too much about sex and drugs and womens bodies. i liked that k-pop didn't have a lot of songs like that. but i understand that these boys were in their late teens and early twenties (the youngest, Jungkook, had just turned 18) when this song came out so i get why they were writing stuff like that. and that song is MILD compared to the stuff on the TOP 40 radio in the US... but at the time it was just shocking. hope that helps your understanding. :)

Omg! Although she hasn’t created newer, storied vids about our BTS, I love XCeleste’s compilations! TY for reviewing it and getting to know about our precious Bangtan a bit more! 👍🏼😎

the jump from "I have to check with professionals to make sure I'm not spreading a misogynistic message to my fans" to "I can't make unique art anymore" doesn't make any sense. Obviously if you want to improve your outlook on the world and self reflect about your potentially harmful biases, that doesn't mean you're making music untrue to yourself. It means you're learning not to promote/project your narrow world view. Saying he's not being 'true to himself' by asking more informed people for advice is completely missing the point of why he did it in the first place. He's not trying to cover his tracks that he's secretly misogynistic... he's actually using their advice. Think about that for a second. Also, this was literally only one example of them consulting someone outside of music before releasing something. There are SO MANY things they write music about. Saying there will be nothing left to write about is a massive exaggeration. Have you even listened to BTS? They write about so much more than just women. Why would you assume that everything they write about would be boiled down to being 'the same' or 'robotic' due to this one instance? That's a fallacy. It's propaganda. That obviously would never happen. Learning to be sensitive to others doesn't mean you lose your freedom, it just means you're trying to be a better person.

I teared watching this it breaks my heart 💔. I’m a big fan of BTS when I first heard “fake love”. And wow I didn’t even know when or how they started. I thought everyone love them. But I’m so proud of them and how far they’ve come ❤.

I literally can’t stop crying. No matter how many times I’ve seen this I just can’t help but cry 😭

BTS is true definition of "Teamwork makes Dreamwork". If you watch their interviews and yearly anniversary festa videos, it will feel like you're in a group therapy when they talk to each other. Maybe that's why those attacks and death threats never work because they have each others back. The "haters" aren't just some basement inhabiting losers or crazy little girls. The ones that are throwing huge organized hate attacks on BTS are industry insiders("allegedly ") as even when they are not whole as a group, they are conquering the music industry.

I remember when haters threatened to kill Jimin at that time Jin wore the same outfit as Jimin on the stage to confuse whoever wants to kill or try to do something to Jimin he also went to the stage during Jimin's solo performance

28:13 Sadly they almost disbanded. At 2018 MAMA awards show, BTS admitted that they contemplated breaking up. The rap line even wrote the song "Outro:Tear" about the possibility of breaking up. We, ARMY, are so grateful they didn't.

Unpleasant things are still happening for BTS. It wasn't long ago that someone was sending food to Jungkook's house and Jungkook reacted by saying don't do that again and Jin Received Unauthorized Vaccine from Military Nurse. Even now, some fans of other groups hate BTS and share false information about them and unite to vote against BTS.

once they were not allowed to the show, humiliated, threatened, tried to destroy their dream... and now their haters whine like bitches and ask for at least an autograph. This is so humbling and such a good lesson! BTS are legends, and everything that was once made them stronger. And haters burn in hell.

Literal countries/political parties targeting BTS is the wildest thing to me. This is smt that happened after this video, but BTS were also targeted by the CCP/Chinese nationalists after making a speech at an event honoring the soldiers between US-SK who fought during the Korean War. RM did not mention anything besides thanking the soldiers for fighting and saying they will be remembered, and "China" absolutely lost it bc RM never mentioned China. It's even more hilarious (but in a sad way) bc C-ARMYs were sharing on forums abt how locals could tell it was mostly paid "outrage" (and a lot of antis from other fandoms) since the majority of cnetz understood that it was an event for only 2 countries, so it'd make no sense to bring up another country, esp one on the opposing side. It was even more suss bc it happened just before Bighit's company went public. And then Chinese outlets started quietly deleting their articles abt it after western media articles came out and were making fun of China for the outrage. I do think that this, (and some other things) were the final nail for BTS bc they have gotten a LOT more openly critical abt China's practices against Korea since then (RM actually posted abt China cheating in the Olympics and Suga directly called out China's Korean Hallyu ban, which is a big no-no for any Korean trying to get into the Chinese market).

There is something you should understand, the media in Korea is controlled by the 3 main entertainment agencies: JYP, YG and SM. This means that the news seeks to raise the content of the artists who are contracted under these agencies and the fact that BTS did not belong to the select club of the BIG3 made it possible for them to be removed from the programs at the beginning or their participation in them was not considered. them and when they became famous, they became a target, since they began to win all the awards and that took away the strength of the idols of those agencies that were used to winning. To this day, the Korean media does not give much importance to the triumphs of BTS, but there is a large number of articles about the idols of the BIG3 even if their achievements are minor.

Exceleste is the channel of Rosan, she is a respected BTS reactor and content creator. She, Bookish Theories and DKDKTV do the most looked at BTS explanation videos. She and Jose Ochoa (he posts BTS updates and reactions) have done many BTS podcasts together. And as a further FYI, Enjoy BTS More channel has great subtitled performance videos.

I always love to watch episodes of run bts when i want to feel happy. They always make me laugh because the boys are so funny together. That will make you feel so much better. Crazy how the victims are the ones to lift our spirits when we feel bad about them being victimized.

The make-up is purely stage make-up. All K-Pop artist will wear make-up whenever they will be filmed. BTS does not wear make up in their daily lives, e.g. you can see it if you watch reality shows like ‘ In the Soop’.

BTS attended this show so many times before. They won so many awards there. Our chance is only #TakeTwo as 'TMA Best Music Summer', 'Most Voted Artist', 'Best Ads Award' and 'FNS Choice Award Group' this year. What if Jungkook or V or Jimin or RM or Suga attending as a representative 🥺 we never know that 🙏 We have 4 days left to vote on Best Music Summer, before the rest of the categories starts. We already lost in 2 categories with the same opponent 🥺. Voting Ends : 31st July | 12PM KST

This is why we love the guys so much 💜💜 they've worked extremely hard and they were destined to become a global group... That guy in the interview who talked about them being girls.. His name is b - free and he ended going to prison and ruining his career, the guys went on to change the world.. As for the make up issue... All kinds of artists wear makeup not just kpop.. The guys recieved so much hate about misogynistic lyrics and from that point forward he asked a professor of woman's studies to look over his lyrics

Thanks so much for this reaction guys! 💜

Thank you - this is a hard watch but essential! I've watched this many times. BTS' book, Beyond the Story talks a lot about the hate they received and the way it did affect the members. all of them felt beaten down at one time or another, and at one time or another really questioned if they could carry on, or whether they should. What got them through - the fact that they are seven and had each other. It sounds simple, but it's fundamentally quite mysterious - Why did they become so close - not even they can explain, but they are forever grateful to each other and to ARMY. Hope you don't mind a long post! Actually, the album in a garage would be understandable, if they had not debuted - but they had already debited. They went to LA (I think) for a docuseries called american Hustle Life and borrowed one of the staff's garage because they had no money for a studio The clip with the hip hop disrespect was a broadcast at a festival. The main snide guy was a friend of RM's who obviously took RM becoming an idol quite personally. He is no big name, but continues to diss BTS - however he (I think) recently got out of prison where he had been for assault. Great guy ... not! Now if HE had been an idol he would now have no career, but because he's only a rapper .... 🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣 ... but both Suga and RM have clap-back songs that decimate these shallow views, so, guys, it's all great material, so, thanks! Of course BTS were not the first to wear make-up! Make-up has for years been common practice for Kpop idols and is actually becoming fairly common for ordinary chaps to wear make up day to day. There is also a massive Korean market for male skin care (and it works!). It is normal ni show business: idols are required to be absolutely perfect and flawless - they are always on display and are not 'meant' to be normal people so should not look it. By the time BTS started it was even common for US rap artists on stage. BTW ... in that little clip you hear a girl say "Shut the front door!" - low flying translation, because I love it - this means, shut the f*** up 😂🤣😃💜 School thing - yes they were about that age, but they had also been working on the School trilogy of albums. Not to get a younger audience, because some of them were actually still in school anyway! They were writing about their own experience and their own lives - something still rare in Kpop. And goodness! you can;t copyright a hair colour. People would say they copied just to hate on them and yes a lot of the hate was co-ordinated by other companies. "Misogynist lyrics" has got to be a bit of a joke". Korea has a pretty terminal record on women's rights and is still quite a misogynist country. Little is being done to change that, sadly. If you learn a little bit about the country and society, you realise that despite the amazing and admirable qualities of the people and society, hypocrisy is strong in these ones. RM did not 'have to go' to sensitivity training - he chose to. He does express himself, and still does. To think that learning about misogyny limits your freedom of expression is a bit ignorant - apologies, but once you know BTS music you know it is honest, direct, and very personal. Yes - the criticism was fake, but he chose to learn from it. Plagiarism is a joke too = look back now at other idols' songs following BTS - really direct copies of BTS supbjects, styles and content. Do we point a finger? no. Death threats: when threats were made against Jimin. Jin and he wore identical hair and clothes to confuse any potential attacker. It absolutely possible to id and prosecute death threats - and yes in the US too - you can prosecute death threats. All you need is to id the IP address, the time of the posting and where it came from. They do it all the time. V's grandmother: the abuse is even worse than it seems. This was a Korean hate campaign and they knew what they were doing and the significance. Because his family were not well off and both his parents worked away, his gran actually brought up him and his siblings for many years 0 his life in BTS meant he was missing her anyway! V's announcement came on the 49th day after her death: this is a special day in Korean culture, which is celebrated with a special family meeting and ceremonies because on this day the soul of the deceased is able to go forward and be reincarnated. It is actually the last day to say goodbye. Choosing to use this to manipulate hate is absolutely mind chillingly vicious. I suspect that this was the straw which prompted BTS to decide to pursue and prosecute haters. I just wish they would publicise the details more and name and shame! Of course, since this, we have lost several young and much loved and talented idols to suicide because of the stress of the industry and the hate they face online and in the media. I doubt their companies are doing enough to support them but that has been a problem for many years. Korean independence from Japan only happened after WWII which was ended in Asia after the second atomic bomb was dropped on Nagasaki. No one can deny the link: showing an image of the explosion in that context does not imply approval of the deaths, but can mean celebrating the end of the slaughter by the Japanese armies and many other abuses across all of the countries the occupied in the east. Japan, however doesn't like that - understandable. It's also worth noting that many of the Japanese troops had no choice - they were little more than vermin in the eyes of officers and rulers, often badly fed or starving. There is a lot of evidence to suggest that attacks are co-ordinated by other label/s but it makes no difference. But even though now they genuinely can;t compete with them, these attacks started even before debut and when BTS were nobodies! Why ? No idea, but they were clearly threatened even then. So why are the media against them? ... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hN15nsd4scWshXk.html Why don;t other bands try to target US and Europe - they are starting to, and quite rightly get a lot of love - but they don't have ARMY so it's taking a long time. BTS did make some efforts to target abroad, but it was really an organic movement driven by ARMY. MMS - yes BTS always wanted to do it, but the handling of the issue by the military authorities was absolutely pathetic and very unprofessional - they made jokes of themselves! There is already an exemption system for athletes and classical musicians - none of whom do as much for Korea either culturally or economically as BTS. Also many very rich sons simply bribe their way out of MMS either paying off recruiters or buying fake medical diagnoses or both - and everyone knows it. Even if they had exempted BTS, members could still have volunteered! Dunno if they would have though. Those members who have already joined up are excelling. The German DJ went from a prime time-ish slot and now has a 1 hour show on Sunday lunchtime. Germany still has Nazis. BTS has millions of fans in Europe and Africa as well as USA. Abusers and bullies ALWAYS claim it is a joke! They don't need a reason - they just want an excuse. Liam sadly makes himself very pathetic here. Anyone know where Forever in your mind is now? Ignorance and Racists are everywhere. You might like xCeleste's ARMY video or a two part video from Orig Explores which interviews ARMYs themselves (quite moving though). Or check out a RUN BTS video: any one - - always a laugh! Or a Bon Voyage - BTS let loose in the wild on holiday as 'normal' people - Weverse or Bangtan TV.

As for kpop idols wearing makeup, it's the same with a lot of male artists not just in South Korea. They wear makeup so they will not look "dead" under the bright lights. Makeup will bring color to their faces while in front of the cameras. Fashion is also one of them since kpop artists are very fashionable too. I hope this helps :)

About live streaming, JUNGKOOK had 10M views while sleeping 😅 And i think his most viewed live was over 30M

The japan thing was such a scary time god, we were so scared for the members lives so bad that was such a scary time for both bts and army. Everytime they would go to the airport or travel army were praying day and night for their safety and we would only feel relieved when they returned home

Festa Room Live 2021, live Anpanman with inflatables, any RunBTS episode (but the Zombie ep is a good start!), or a BTS compilation like 'BTS "being themselves at award shows", "funny moments", "chaos" for a mood boost!😊💜

Today literally jk cried watching army song for them and he has 15 million real views. They love us

You got your 2k likes 😉💜🇧🇷💜 thanks for the reaction!!💜💜

I'm 75, discovered bts during pandemic with Permission to Dance. The lyrics of the song were in English. The verse - we don't need permission to dance - caught my attention. It's non-confirmity made me jump...i exist and i don't need permission to exist. I am alive then i don't need permission to live. The second reason but deeper one is the narrative of David dancing naked before Ark of the Covenant. In the story David planned to build a temple for God to be His house. In response God through Prophet Samuel crashed his plan for it was to be David's son Solomon that the Templebwould be built. David was too presumptuous, for it was God who built the House of David. His dancing before the Ark of the Covenant though was accepted was God.

Despite all the bad things, what I can rescue is that the army has always been accompanying the boys, defending them on social networks, the media and even artists who want to use the fame of BTS but do not value them. Thank you for taking the time to watch these videos, I am very grateful.

Muchas gracias por su reacción. Al ver este vídeo pudieron sentir un poco de la rabia que ARMY siente cada vez que atacan a BTS o a uno de sus miembros bajo el alero de la xenofobia o menosprecio, como dicen ustedes, si a alguien no le gusta su música o cómo se ven, simplemente sigan adelante pero parece ser que a la mayoría no le agrada cuando observa que le va bien a alguien que no pertenece a su "grupo", pero a BTS no le interesa resguardar el status quo de nadie 😊 Saludos a ambos.

51:10 I'm really sorry for everything you went through. You r absolutely right tht people gonna hate you when you do somthing good with ur life. How Well you did, broke Records and Achieved as a Power Lifter, the Haters didn't see ur Struggles, ur endeavors, ur Hustle behind the Success. Haters have nothing better to do with their lives, thts why they critise people who have accomplished somthin in Their life. But Never Give up bcoz of haters, take Motivation from the hatred u get and do even Better 💜

I think one of the reasons that people were so adimant (and still are) when it comes to taking down BTS is that they are from a small company, they don't follow the normal "k-pop" idol mold, they have always had music freedom, and a say in all creative processes etc. Other companies (mainly the big ones) dont want this group to beat their groups and singers, they have influence in media, music shows etc. Its all BS. ARMY have also had to deal with people constantly hating on us as well, during fan voting, other geoups will all group together to vote for an artist/group other than BTS just to try and take away chances of winning awards (Reminder to vote for take two on fanstar). This video doesn't even cover 1/4 of what BTS has had to go through and atill go through to this very day. Now im going bevause JK started a Libe 😂😅

Loved your reaction, much love from Portugal 🇵🇹💜

As far as I remember, Jin would wear the same clothes as Jimin at their concerts during his death threats to make an attack harder. 💜

Thank you so much for reaction our 7 boys 🥺🙏💜 love you guys 💜

Gracias por su reacción 💜 Debo decir q en Estados Unidos tampoco los dejan ganar o progresar a Bts ,hay documentales q hablan como radios ,discográficas etc etc en Estados Unidos no quieren q Bts sea el número uno, como los Grammy, Billboard,KZfaq, Spotify etc etc cuánta corrupción hay en medio, hasta quisieron crear una boyband en Estados Unidos q compita y gane contra Bts y no lo lograron ,en fin gracias por su reacción 💜 Btsandarmy 💜💜💜

I feel like its all about power, the big 3 company of korea have a lot of power( over brodcast, award shows,bying news articles or throphees etc) and dont really appreciate an underground group who popped out of nowhere, outshining their idols and slowly becoming bigger. I recommand boracity magasine's vidéo for a lot more informations. Great video ❤

As far as the make-up is concerned, it is a common thing with K-Pop idols (which is what they were before they became global superstars) and speaks to the Korean culture's obsession with beauty. Even outside of K-Pop, Korean beauty products have a huge market (I use a few myself) and K-Pop groups typically have a member who is "the visual: (i.e. the really, really good-looking one who is the "face" of the group.) BTS were just following the norm wearing make-up on stage and for media appearances. At this point, they still wear make-up in those same venues, but they have also transcended the restrictions of K-Pop in other areas of personal appearance, such as JungKook's tats, which he is forced to cover up when he appears on Korean TV shows.

Thanks guys for your reaction

The other companies recognised there talent and were afraid of them so they paid media and shows to block them at all costs.., the companies appear to have stopped and are now riding the BTS wave, however the fandoms of the other artists are still continuing the onslaught of toxicity and still trying to block them at all costs by banding together during fan voted events

Hay algo que deberían entender, los medios de comunicación en Corea son controlados por las 3 principales agencias de entretenimiento: JYP, YG y SM. Eso significa que las noticias buscar elevar los contenidos de los artístas que están contratados bajo estas agencias y el hecho que BTS no perteneciera al selecto club de las BIG3 hizo posible que en sus inicios se les apartara de los programas o no fueran considerada su participación en ellos y cuando se volvieron famosos, se transformaron en un blanco, ya que empezaron a ganar todos los premios y eso le resto fuerza a los idols de esas agencias que estaban acostumbradas a ganar. Hasta el día de hoy en los medios de comunicación coreanos no les da mayor importancia a los triunfos de BTS, pero si existe una gran cantidad de artículos sobre los idols de las BIG3 aunque sus logros sean menores

Thank you so much for reacting to this. Armys is all over the world. Myself am from Denmark in Scandinavia and has been and Army for more then 4 years and there are social media groups for Armys all over the world where we can share news, storys, talk and meet up with people in real life and have an extra community that is all about love, respect and sharing our love for music and BTS. Everyone in K-pop use make up and have always done it but the hip hop background has always had a problem with it but i love the fact that K-pop has some of the best rappers. Another reason hip hop artist and people i general had a problem with K-pop back in the days was because most of the artist didn´t write or produced their own music and was most of the time lip syncing and the lyrics was shallow and boring. Some groups still doesn't write or produce and still lip syncing a lot. With the plagiarism accusations they have always written about what is happening in their life and what emotions they are going through. So that they had the theme about school makes very good sense because they where all in school at that time. The song that was said to be misogynistic is Boy in luv and War of hormone and i this it is because of the difference in culture maybe but im a female and i like those songs and i would love to hear your opinion on the songs and lyrics. To get to know more about Korea, the culture, K-pop industry and BTS i recommend The Rise Of Bangtan. And to get to know about the difference and how others both in Korea and America is trying to make the next BTS i recommend "The Next BTS" Why they fail every time. Its really informative but also kind of funny and shows BTS achievements. And to give you something amazing i recommend watching MMA 2019 and 2020 live performances. I really look forward to your next reaction 💜💜💜💜💜

the fact is that jin and jhope are in the military services now would shut the antis and haters down, other members would serve too

39:10 To your point, because BTS was such a target in their home country they took to social media to circumvent the hurdles. Social Media is what gave BTS the global reach and catapulted them to the world wide success today. In a way, BTS have the Korean anti-media, and other opposing records labels to thank for helping them pave a different route. In the words of RM "Haters gonna hate, but Players gonna play"

Thanks for your review guys. I am a middle aged spiritual teacher/coach ex scientist. BTS was the only positivity I could find during the pandemic amid toxic politics. I started looking at them more closely after seeing the passion (and group humility just in their stance) of RM during his initial UN Speech. As a dual culture (Turkish) US citizen, I understand some of the knee jerk cultural reactions EG different beauty standards (they are like girls), make up (my ballet dancer daughter...on stage requires lots of makeup not to be drowned out by the lights), also BTS were teenagers when they began (acne etc...no make up = unprofessional in that industry). Finally our current hyper sexualised society doesn't understand the innocence of a culture where young people don't culturally come of age until their later 20's (BTS don't act their age)...and can culturally openly express brotherly/sisterly affection toward the same sex (It used to be the same in Turkey...but not the opposite sex as its a more conservative culture. Finally, I don't think any of us can understand the immense pressure of their schedule (RM once spoke of how even managing their crazy schedule and the amount of hours it took, required the to share quarters during their intense rise to prominence). BTS are breaking cultural paradigms...both in their country and in others (BIG business BIG money goes after the weakest/ although their label is now on top); they have taken on as a group the heavy load of social commentary for a time within a tumultuous slice of current history...and it happened organically. Clearly destiny. Also they are very well aware of this (the movement for a better world within their fandom). RM especially carries the weight and talked about it in their Dinner Festa live 2022, nearly in tears about needing to live his life (taking a break as a group/ military service/moving toward individual music for awhile) for once without worrying about 'what the world thinks.' There is SO much to them, their music, their journey...their trajectory (not fitting in ANYwhere) and always operating within that grey area of change (hence the polarity of extra hate yet huge love). The compassion for the rest of us is to simply acknowledge their journey and remember they are still oh so young and extend them some mercy. As a mom of three young adults around BTS ages, its hard to fathom that they didn't implode. Blessings, and its nice to see you two opening since your first BTS reaction. Facing our inner blinders is not easy to do. I rarely comment ...forgive the long discourse. PS kzfaq.info9sJ_I1lHpps?feature=share. This is Proof Live with a live band. Came out a year ago...a nice snapshot of who they have become, where they are going with guest Anderson Paak.Thanks again.

Honestly when first discovering BTS there is a point when you kind of scratch your head at the hate and wonder why and how it could possibly have been that bad. Then you watch what happens from that point on to them. And learn more about the past. And see how they and now other HYBE groups are hated on and actively worked against. It's all true, and so much worse than even this video shows.

I started my journey with BTS in February this year. I found the fandom wars are ridiculous and non-sense. When the fandoms are “fighting” on line, the artists from different groups supported by those fans are friends, really good friends. So why fights? I am really annoyed by the toxic fans including the toxic armies and solo stans…. If I don’t like some music or some artist, I just ignore it and walk away. Anyway, there are more good fans than the sick ones. So… love BTS! OT7!

9:07 reg plagerism accusations No BitHit (their management) would NOT do stuff like this. They tried their best to protect them from such malicious accusations and media play. Nearly from day one BTS was on the bad side of media with their company having no money and connections to the media/broadcast, their songs tackling topics such as sociaties unrealistic expectations/pressure on youth, criticism on the school system and so forth. I can highly recommend to read chapter 1 of Beyond the story 10-year record of BTS, which came out 2 weeks ago, it's spilling tea🍵

13:54 reflecting on oneself and seeing that you're not being misogynistic is not going to hinder a person from writing great lyrics. People are not just a shitty writers but also people if they can't. BTS have been criticised for lyrics a lot just because of it's them standing up for the right things or for swearing etc but they don't change or ask for forgiveness for that, none of it, except for this case. So you do not need to worry about them not having artistic freedom or not being able to write what they want. They do not just do things to please ARMY. Listening to women in this case and learning is fantastic, evolving is great. The lyrics wasn't a big deal and was blown up but as you hear said in the video, they learnt from it and grew. They speak their mind but they do it without being misogynistic. And that's no problem for them. RM is a fantastic songwriter and person. People should learn from him. 15:15 your attitude is what's sad man. You just dismissing it is off-putting to me.

thank you for the video! :)

Much of the early rap that the guys grew up on was very misogynistic. And young guys tend to parrot that with little thought. It's a good thing that criticism caused RM to pay attention to the messages of lyrics. Their awareness of messaging is why their lyrics are intentionally meaningful. It's not "Karen" to point out clearly problematic issues. That said, BTS' 'mysogynist lyrics' were definitely blown out of proportion.

If you want something to lighten the mood and get motivated after this, I suggest watching This is ARMY by the same XCeleste. The main reason to BTS' massive global breakthrough success that no other K artist were able to achieve, is the immense love and dedication BTS and ARMY have for each other. APOBANGPO!💜

As for makeup, nearly every artist that has been on stage or television has put make up on. Any rapper or hardcore rock group with a music video most likely had a makeup artist on set. The guys that were dissing them simply wanted to be a**holes, so they tried to attack their masculinity to humiliate them. Also the plagiarism wasnt from th3 company. It was about stupid nonsensical things fans of other groups would get mad. BTS would simply stand with a similar posture and other groups would all it plagiarism. Edit: ( had come back to correct some words, beecuz i aint spel no gud sumtims lol)

To me, Kpop has a persona to uphold with idols. They must present a certain look, visuals, weight, personifying idyllic idols, and makeup is just part of their imagery to meet that expectation. So now, makeup is just part of the Kpop culture. Once the West accept that, you will find, that makeup is not even an issue. People must first look past that and just enjoy some of the great music that comes from many great Korean idols. Artists globally have been wearing makeup for decades.

I can see that you guys are really focus, truly care and honest. And not looking for attention. I'll watch all of your video then. And also in the future.

you should def react to the mistreatment of BTS by affectaed lol I think that video is better bc it shows the video clips in its full form. a lot of stuff goes on twitter, some antis pretend to be ARMYs to create fanwars against other fandoms to make people hate us. plus even under nonbts related tweets, they’ll find a way to mention BTS and put them down. Sometimes I break down crying seeing those comments because I know none of the members deserve this type of deep hatred. And the fact that I can’t stop people from saying horrible things about them fills me with hopelessness. I treat them as if they were my most precious treasure, seeing someone else treat them like trash makes me sad. They’re so sweet and genuine. I always wonder how could anyone hate these seven guys

@38:51 in a way they did. Bts branched out majorly into the US, but the media here (and everywhere really) are trying to break them down as well. They do not wish to see a non-American thrive here. They all want to see their downfall. And on top of that, they get completely ridiculed for seeking "western validation". @45:05 exactly. Everyone has a problem with bts. It's insane.

thank you so much 💜

The haters must've felt real sorry now that they saw how successful BTS became.

Obrigada pela reação pessoal, ARMY from Brazil 😊😊😊💜💜💜💜💜💜💜🇧🇷

7:14 that’s called knowing brothers and BTS also appeared in the show. I’m pretty sure every group at one point has done a school themed concept

Enjoyed watching your reactions for BTS... very enlightening responses... keep doing your KZfaq 💜

It's a trendy of 2013 the Teenagers are try out make up, like Eyeliners. my daughter is 13 at the time and began to used eyeliners.

Thanks guys for this 💜💜

Thank you for reacting to this. It's a hard watch tho, I hope you guys are okay after this😅 I can't believe we lived thru those days. November 2018 was such a nightmare in BTSxARMY history. I'm a grown woman but I wept because of how helpless we were. We tried so so hard to protect them but we couldn't do a thing. We were going against another country because of their history with South Korea😔 AND THEN, the next month, BTS wept during their Artist of the Year acceptance speech because of how hard 2018 was for them that they were thinking of disbanding😭 But they stayed. Thank god😭 And ARMY was on fire. Never will our boys cry like that again. The overprotective-ness doubled after that... Lol🔥

Hi 👋 been watching you for a bit now. Been holding off subscribing because the 1st one I've watched was the 'Blood, Sweat and Tears' reaction and it took a time for me to come around, hehe. But I know that things will turn around once you really dig deep and get to know them. And I think you are on your way with the help of fellow Armys guiding you. And to be fair, I really felt the distress on your reactions on this. It is heart breaking how people tend to nit pick on things they don't even appreciate. Love is all around but sadly so is hate. And I've been wondering about your relations and I got my answer that you are father and son, that made me smile 😊 I went down the rabbit hole with my mom during the pandemic and happy that you are in this together. 💜🫰 Borahae

Tnx for a great reaction..recommending BTS from Nobody’s to Legend🤨😌💜

K-Pop is one of the major reasons why Korean men wear makeup. It is common to see male idols with smoky eyes and bright lips in music videos and during performances. Originally, wearing makeup was to prevent idols from looking washed out on camera, but it eventually became a popular trend as regular men were inspired to imitate the flawless soft masculine image of K-Pop idols. But in a daily basis they were not often seen wearing makeup. But, this does not mean every man in Korea go around with heavy makeup like K-Pop idols usually had on a daily basis. Average men, even celebrities actually prefer the natural and dewy look, known as the ‘chok-chok’ look in Korea. The idea of the ‘chok-chok’ look is to look fresh and clean as naturally as possible. Normally, foundation or BB cream will be used to even out the skin tone. Some just use concealer to conceal dark circles and blemishes, while nude shades are usually the preferred lip color.🙂

To be more precise, the problem with plagiarism accusations is for hair colors and concepts that are common and not something to be owned by anyone. In the picture shown, Jimin has orange hair and it is compared with another idol who has orange hair as well. So having the same hair color is considered plagiarism? 😐 I think that's why these incidents are included in the series of unfairness done to BTS.

I agree… so sad when you need to watch what you say and think… crazy!!!

Great reaction ! Video request: BTS tiny desk concert. Think you’d enjoy the live band & vocals and just the vibe 💜

💜💜💜 We are with BTS 💜💜💜

I remember seeing your first reaction to bts and your comments about them. I am happy now that you've looked into their work with a positive mind and are doing researches about them.

I saw someone commenting that the reason you know about BTS is that they HAVE been promoting in USA, hence their popularity there. But the thing is, SK is not the only country trying to hold BTS down. BTS gets extremely limited plays for new releases on radios. All of this, regardless of the country or the market has two, well, one reason for doing all this. They do not own BTS, and therefore they do not get a share of the profits. They do not get money - their artists, their markets do not do as well as BTS does. The other entertainment companies, and even the US market does not give BTS their dues because it harms their profits, their prestige; it threatens them. There are stats on low radio plays, etc, etc. Xenophobia, racism, etc. As for misogyny, although BTS is for everyone, male and female, the truth is that ARMY is largely female. First of all, BTS would lose out if they started being misogynistic - not that they would. But secondly, as other comments have stated, it is not censorship but growth that Namjoon strives for. He willingly wishes to grow and learn from prejudices and bigotry. BTS are well known for their support of feminist issues. A lot of male reactors seem to really downplay that for some reason. But if they said something racist then there would be a lot of outrage and it wouldn't be viewed as freedom of speech but rather an attack. Army is always proud of BTS growth, and not resentful of their mistakes, but hopeful that they will learn from them.

Omg 🥲. So sorry to hear that about ur powerlifting career. My dad used to say “no one likes a winner” and honestly I’ve found that to be about right over the years.

Wearing make up as an idol is not that much of a foreign concept in music. You have bands like Nirvana, queen etc. who have worn make up since the 1970s. The Korean pop industry uses make up to raise idols attractiveness to their audience. The initial goal in the K-pop industry was to create beautiful people that seem perfect in every way. That ties into the K-pop mindset of having idols, not drink, take drugs or date. They are supposed to be flawless. It can be a damaging concept, but it is part of the Kpop culture.

Itulah kenapa army seprotec itu ke Bangtan, sampai kami dicap toxic. Apakah para pembenci benar-benar tidak tahu kalau mereka adalah gambaran toxic yang sesungguhnya...

Because they are so real, tallented that other company/bigger company fear and fandom fear them, thats why they got so much hate.I hope you two know that this is the real reason why they get hate from the begining. They strarted from a small company but they have a real tallent and passion for music that they fear them even before they became big they can see it like army can see it so they all try to come together and sabotage them because theyve came from a smaller company, an easy target

It's sad how many times fandoms gang up on BTS, recently a fandom had asked many fandoms to team up with them to make sure that JK's solo song didn't win any awards. He still won but it's sad how it's always been kpop vs BTS I wish people would just enjoy the music like it's meant to be enjoyed. 😔