Yes, 100%!! 😭

Light and Shinowaaaaa !!!!

Agreed

Just finished book 2 and... Yep. Made me cry and love Rand for respecting his wishes and giving him a chance to redeem himself his way.

Is this closer to the end of the book? I’m still like a bit more than the halfway point

'Sliding Doors'

damn that one life where egwene died and he went mad but still fought the darkness... that was crazy.

Say it with me: Flicker, flicker, flicker.

really tied in well with the scene of Nynaeve in the trials too.

I can still be mad at Mat for his behavior in the early books.

@@MeMySkirtandI oh for sure.

Mat's the only 1 of the 3 main dudes that has any personality til like yhe 5th or 6th book. He's the best.

Hey, this is completely unrelated to the video I just wanted to get someone’s opinion on this, so I’m not really an avid reader unless it comes to manga, and I wanted to broaden my horizons when it comes to reading so after watching this channel for a little bit I decided to start reading stuff from the cosmere soon; I know when it comes to the cosmere it’s pretty much dealers choice of where you would want to start, but I wanted to start with the mistborn trilogy since it’s one of the authors earlier works in that set universe. Like an idiot I decided to check out the wiki just to get a basic synopsis of what the series is about and who would be the lead characters (only read the first few sentences from the character descriptions so I tried not to get spoiled) But I scroll down and it accidentally spoiled a character death, and it was a major character. So I was wondering is it still worth it if you know one particular character that is insanely important to the story dies?

@@alexalonzo8965 Probably not. I started this series already knowing several major plot points through fantasy osmosis. If anything that made the read better because I knew the series at least had a sort of plan.

I read this as Faile at first and thought I missed some serious stuff in book 2

That's the moment when you realize that Fain isn't merely a dirty beggar

yeah that was beautiful.

Well, he's not known for being a stubborn af "woolhead" for nothing lol

I took it as more of him being in denial. No one wants to be the Dragon Reborn, let alone able to channel as a man.

@@Orkillester1 Exactly. At this point, he still believes that he can just "not channel" and everything will be hunky dory. He doesn't truly accept it until The Dragon Reborn, (book 3).

He was in denial and being a fuckin teenager didnt help lmao

Man, I love that line!

Chills down my spine every time I read that line

Lews sounds like light in Spanish.

@@omardavid4427 I think that's the idea

because of Loial's reaction I think we can't really blame Rand's teenager hormones at play. Selene beauty must be supernatural for Lolial to react that way, teenage rand didn't had worse odds than older Rand i'd bet.

Poor cheeks, considering proportions and all...

Loial was like "she can get this sung wood".

@@brandonstephens5057 *tear streams down my face* ...beautiful.

@@brandonstephens5057 Dude...NIIIIICE one.

Yeah me too. Like Mufasa in the clouds kinda vibes

That might be the only way to do it visually - have it be a kind of "projection."

Came to the comments to say the same thing. I just finished The Great Hunt and envisioned it as a sort of projection on the clouds.

Same

I mean, how else would they be able to recognize Rands face. I believe the book says that his face was recognisable to all. Not 100% sure

I appreciate this perspective, because Rand defeating Turak was the one thing that always really bothered me about this book. Even within the void, Rand had only had a bit of training from Lan at this point. Thanks for offering a reason this actually makes sense.

@@mikem1585 I just wanna point out that Rand had been training for a few months with Lan by now (and we know who Lan is) like the goblin said training for a bit with him ...also Land had been training him for the journey from two river to shinear

@@avrumycanda7501 yeah I appreciate that, but…idk going from never holding a sword to defeating a Blademaster with a few months of training just always felt hollow to me. Even if Lan was the trainer, it was always hard for me to believe.

@@mikem1585 I hear you I like sir goblins take

That's how I saw it, that in the void he unknowingly accessed sword fighting from Lews Therin.

Oof. A lot. Like, the books would be half as long if people just talked to each other

@@gokbay3057 Half as long is one thing, but half as frustrating... That'd be the prize.

I think this series is why "JUST FUCKING TALK TO EACH OTHER" is the ethos of my own writing

to be fair, in life too

It’s realistic a lot of problems are the result of poor communication

Well said.

Im jealous! To read this series for the first time again. Crossroads of Twilight is the slowest book, but every book after that is a fucking rollercoaster, have fun!

You are just barely a book ahead of me! I have 50 pages left in Path of Daggers and am really trying to finish the series before daniels recaps are released

@@matthewletexier currently 104 pages into winter's heart! Are you feeling the slog? I'm not feeling it that much, really enjoying this more slow books to build the final action of the series can't wait.

@@ProvidenceNL not gonna lie this experience is being one of the best in my life. This series is starting to feel special to me. I can't even start to imagine what the post series depression will be like!

@@saursoar I'm not feeling the slog, but I'm also not sure when it is supposed to start. Maybe I'll see it next book, but for now I'm happy with the series

Well, it was more the shaggy Gleeman killing the king than Rand refusing to play the game, but that's still mostly Rand's fault.

@@TheLordofMetroids the shaggy gleeman, lol

@@TheLordofMetroids the shaggy Gleeman only killed the king because the king killed his new lady friend trying to get dirt/get even with Rand for going to his biggest rivals party, who also gets killed because he's a Darkfriend and failed his mission, so there is no major/dominant group in the country, plunging them into a civil war which weakens them for the Shaido until Rand shows up.

@@andrewdiaz3529 true dat

Exactly this; the chance that they would think "Hmm, he must be hiding something awful important" is... small. But because Rand is Taveren, the chance that they think that is suddenly awfully big. I kind of... really like that Robert Jordan made "convenient plot point" an actual plot point.

I mean, that's basically confirmed based on how Perrin interacts with her in the last book.

When Rand first met lanfear, she was using magic to tone down her beauty.

@@bozoforce I thought she was just making herself appear more his age, not necessarily less beautiful.

@@Arezoo298195 she was less beautiful looking Rand's age and still took his breath away.

Maybe not specifically compulsion but some form of Power is likely

Try Audible I got through the series in 4 month's, granted I listened while I was at work but still it's probably fastest and easiest way to experience the story. Plus the narration is phenomenal 🙌

@@chrissleeping65 yeah that's what I'm going with since i can listen for large parts of the day at work

Spoiler for the entire series: Rand is actually the dragon reborn

I started back in high school and read through to book 9 so fast, I burned out. I didn’t finish until I was almost done with college. I read the synopses on a website and picked up at CoT. The finish is sooooo worth it. Enjoy the journey!

Sanderdon did a better job finishing the series than Jordan would have.

Same, I'm on FoH and speeding the fuck up to finish it

Good luck! Those last four books are absolutely incredible

@@milospollonia1121 good luck!! 😁

@@iiXalexXii thanks! I can't wait to get to the Brandon sections. I know him so much better as an author in his own right now, I think that's what will help me get through the volumes, and I desparately need to read the last battle again... So much to digest!

just started gathering storm haha. Trying to finish series by august.

I think you're a Whitecloak at heart. ;-) Or at least you can sympathize with their views on Power users.

I picture it like the final battle of Avengers:End Game and Rand is like Ant Man in his giant form punching the huge flying alien thing

@@MireVale lol

If you've ever watched Legion, there was a badass "magic" (mutant) battle in the sky in the season 2 finale and it's basically how I always saw the battle at falme go down in my mind

i was kinda thinking like avatar the airbender type beat if you know what i mean. I honestly think the only way Wheel Of time can be properly adapted is animated.

Amazing how different minds come to different conclusions. I agree about Shadow Rising but Great Hunt doesnt make my top 5 an Gathering Storm is the worst outside the slog. My top 3 are Shadow Rising, Eye of the World and Towers of Midnight.

I completely agree. My S tier list is The Great Hunt, The Shadow Rising, and The Gathering Storm. All of these are rather Rand centric books, and he is my favorite character. But shadow rising has a great Perrin story and Gathering Storm also has a great Egwene story, and I love both those characters too. But there’s something about The Great Hunt that always draws me back in. It’s that classic fantasy quest adventure but with so many new spins to it. It’s the one I want to reread the most.

@@notchbeard9007 It is amazing how different minds come to different conclusions. I still have half of Towers of Midnight and the last book left, but I loved The Gathering Storm, for me it was like Lord of Chaos turned up to 11.

I am on my 2nd read and I am reading The Last Battle chapter right now

😂 very much both

Yes! I thought there were lots of Cairhien-France hints. Like the Sun Throne of Cairhien and the Sun King of France (Louis XIV). The new palace in the middle of what was woodland (Casa Damodred/Versailles) Also, the towering hairstyles for the women.

Makes a lot of sense to be honest

The whole height reference of the Carhien I took as a nod to Napoleon as well being historically short of stature.

the dress code seemed pulled out of Paris but the game and all the cloak and dagger shit seemed out of Italian Renaissance alright. The Medici or the Borgias would be right at home playing Daes Dae'mar.

it is said that most people are playing it to either curry favor with the king or plot against him so it think it was meant to be a real cloak and dagger intrigue but the way the "veteran players" read Rand's moves make it seem cartoony. i did someone point out that it could be a way to showing just how much being ta'veren means that Rand fumbled his way through it with cheer luck and destiny on his side.

@@damp2269 yeah but I think it was supposed to be stupid to show how absurd politicians will get if someone doesn't play by their rules

I like this take

@@austinfarley8457 having read a few more of the books, the games is definitely no joke. It's implied that much of Morgase's success after she took the throne is due to Thom's help and his knowledge of the game of houses.

@@damp2269 it can highlight absurdity while also being a important plot element

With the way the world is shaping up to be living one year today is enough to make you feel old.

@@Wintercourse thank you

hahah yeah, when I heard that I crumbled into dust. I first read Eye of The World almost 30 years ago

Rand blew the horn not mat

Wait even Liandrin, and Elaida?!? Like damn they were intro pretty much as villains. I get it sorta like my first time through the first book all I could think of was “listen to the damn wizards you dumb hayseeds”. But after that scene with Rand and Liandrin in the dungeon I went “ok murder the arrogant witches”. I ain’t gonna touch the mom thing, any joke I could make would be low hanging fruit

@@AverageAwesomeDude not Liandrin that much cause she gave off sketch vibes but Elaida do sho

@@samuelbeauzile5192 the rebellion must have hit u like a ton of bricks

@@AverageAwesomeDude naw Liandrin and the black ajah fo sho being real changed my all aes sedai are gud attitude

If you’re returning to the prologue, here’s a thing to keep an eye out for: - Pay attention to the description of characters in the darkfriend meeting. You may see a certain Shienaran.

@@hardstroker947 thank you, Asha'man.

My 5 disc CD player would like to have a word with you

CDs were a nightmare. If a single CD got scratched in the wrong way you were screwed as an audiobook owner.

I remember that being a very powerful moment for me the first time I read WoT as well. I think it's because it's the first time we feel like her anger is really justified. She is no longer a motherly, if meddlesome, village matron out to save her flock. In an instance, this scene transforms her into a warrior fighting for the light. From here on out she is filled with "righteous anger" that fuels her strength and grants her access to the one power.

@@messie.jessie.guenther Amen!

Dang son

Dude, have you you ever read anything else ?

@@loczek1965 I am at 500 reads in Goodreads I read a lot

yeah self-awareness is not something many characters have in this series lol.

It's funny how everyone finds Egwene and Nyneave annoying, I really find their whole story arc the only redeeming thing about this series so far. I find the male characters very boring. Rand is just a boring annoying every man. Matt isn't just useless he's a hindrance. And Perrin is just there. I don't understand why people love this series so much. I don't say that with hate I say that with curiosity. I'm really hoping for the series to get good. I'm on book 3 and I'm finding it much better but that's because it follows these two characters that I do like. If I didn't like them I don't know what else there would be to like about the series. It's the Aes sedai and the magic system that keep me reading. And the hope that it'll get better

@@mr.e7541 Honestly for me it's a lot of nostalgia. I was always in the remedial reading class (turns out I was dyslexic) and I hated reading. My older sister's friend--who I thought was amazingly cool--was really into Wheel of Time and he lent me Eye of the World. And I went from hardly being able to read, to reading thousands of pages. Albeit extremely slowly lol. Eventually I got quite decent at reading and have mostly overcome my dyslexia, and it's in large part thanks to these books. Since then I've mostly moved on from modern fantasy and now I mainly study old norse stuff. I find most modern fantasy totally rootless and style-less. Tolkien's stuff was great because it was rooted in a deep understanding of old english and old norse literature and, importantly, the form thereof. I still like Wheel of Time as a guilty pleasure, but there's certainly nothing in it with as much depth as this: All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost. From the ashes a fire shall be woken, A light from the shadows shall spring; Renewed shall be blade that was broken, The crownless again shall be king.

@@mr.e7541 Book 3 is where the wheel of time begins to be its own series imo (or at least shows us it has more to offer). Prior to that it was just another fantasy series. Rand becomes much better of a character. Mat starts being pretty good after 4. Book 5 was definitely the best Perrin I have seen so far. Throughout the series though, Egwene, Nyna and Elyane have been annoying brats. Book 2 is where it began for me to notice them being annoying. Book 3 had a few moments like that as well. I nearly dropped the series on book 5 (or maybe it was book 4) because Nynaeve povs was insufferable. Thankfully due to certain events book 7 seems pretty good and characters are starting to be more self aware now... finally.

@@ReubenXR thanks. I am enjoying the mystery of the black ajah. The chapters involving that are keeping me turning the pages

Already done

Same

sure, it is frustrating - but as an old fart, I have seen many friendships (not necessarily my own) cool off or freeze totally because the didn't talk about their problems and resolved the conflict, so it is at least a believable situation

@@MrSmokinDragon Believable, but overused in literature. At least in my opinion.

The events of Falme are integral to events 10 books later which is amazing writng. Only Jordan and Sanderson have done this correctly kmo.