And then the even more awkward moment when your new girl takes your ex under her wing...

Of all the kindred to end up in a love triangle...

"How much do you trust me?" " Implicitly. " "Enough to bite your ex?" " I...what? "

@@ChrisGalford And inside Jasper is screaming "THAT'S SO HOT!"

And old girl sees new girl is so much more awesome.

on me

Preach!

Yeah wow, that's a true actor. It's like he's made for the role.

Seriously, yes!

What's that adage about "play with fire and...?"h year "and then play with fire again and get serious damage again" ! Didn't you learn the first time? In truth though it shows Jasper is seriously willing to suffer for his friends. Gain 1 humanity?

secrets have consequences.

That offer to learn Fortitude is looking more and more like a good idea. :)

Haha, and it's even 4 points of aggravated damage...

It's his curse, on top of the Nos clan curse

And they did it as ghouls. 😅

Still a pint left over, unused. I am pretty sure she didn't use it to free Chloe

@@zotaninoron3548 But both pints where used...?

@@zotaninoron3548 pint 1 was used for truth of blood, pint 2 was used to free Chloe

Right?! This is the second Epilogue of his that actually made me FRIGGIN' cry, ugh. ;__;

Yes, this was a very subtle "Waaait a minute, what?" xD Considering her chase for her one true love or something brought her into this position, this must have been very uncomfortable.

Time stamp? I was listening in the background

@@DAEsaster 46:55

@Olive Peter 46:50-47:00 oh shit... yeah... I missed it first time....

@@DAEsaster 46:50-47:00

_"You don't usually touch me, so..."_ 😬Yikes. That burned harder than the previous touches.

@@TheMrVengeance I LOVE IT.

I don’t think it’s disgust. I think it was sympathy

Ok, you got your laughter out of me.

Could have a special reason.

@@pascalwittmer-braun6025 Even just the obvious. Fiona took Chloe as a ghoul to have something over Jasper. Eva realizes that.

Eva being a Tremere is reason enough for the actions and it is very warranted.

Ghouls can regenerate their wounds as well.

yo when eva did it too, immediately i was like, "now they're just showing off."

@@elcamp3 they heal fast, but they can't do what they did.

@@HenriqueErzinger They can. They actually do it in one of the episodes.

@@elcamp3 If so then it's a house rule or a mistake. V5 rules as written they don't Mend the same way Vampires do.

my dude, eva's face when jaspar says that even eva makes mistakes

Team Esper forever

I know, right?

I love her voice, it's so soothing.

100%

Eva looks so hurt after the ritual ,it broke my heart

She does make a nice villain. "and some people are ok with being monsters" :D

she will get hers too. she has it coming

@bludrk returns To be fair Fiona has not been so nasty and evil as manipulative and power grabbing. Just how "bad" will she go to gain power isn't tested yet. You would think as a Ventrue she will work with Victor but I don't see that happening and Fiona and Abrams will come up against Victor sooner or later. Unless Victor decides to leave it go and concentrate on building his own base. In which case he may consolidate Gangrel, ( throuogh Ramona and Annabelle), Brujha ( through A) and the revolution, Lascombra ( Through Nelli), Tramere ( through Jasper and Eva) and Nos ( through Gary ) .

@bludrk returns right until ya found out those same Lasombra wanna join those cam cream puffs. They better pray Montano doesn't come back from the beckoning or its lights out for alot of em.

she's the villain we love to hate, or hate to love

Fionna... Fionna is not a villain, ok? At least not a full villain, if else is quite Victor´s rival. I felt bad for Victor when she took away his chunk of land, but from her perspective, she took away from Victor a small yet rich area that she had been working on as supervisor for over a decade, or decades?, and had to let go because Victor found a screw up on Isaac. That was quite honestly a very bad moment to smear on his face in fron of other Barons that she took part of his territory as "slap on the wrist" so he would not face other bullshit consecuences he didnt deserve, and she is quite vindictive. But that asides, she did kind of deserve that land on her own. I have the theory that Fionna having her own barony instead Isaac right hand when he goes to the Metuseleah Beckoning will clean the path for Nelli to inherit Hollywood ("hold for Isaac" is too optimistic).

If Jasper chooses Chloe over Eva I'm gonna be mad.

@bludrk returns I have a feeling this is how it'll play out too. Fiona still has her hooks in Chloe and Chloe seems changed from her experiences.

@UFHoee I believe there was a Toreador (might have actually been Victoria Ash) that said every Toreador needs to date a Nos because of how dedicated they are and how they essentially worship the ground you walk on.

don't have to be a love triangle when jasper usually has two hands, take some notes from baby b fellas

@@MissAnachronista poly representation for the win!

Not a Lasombra in sight. Oof you say....

Thank you for the very kind words! :)

when he isn't?

I'd be interested in knowing if she now makes an exception for Jasper in her ward.

@bludrk returns That's one interpretation. Another is that these visions have been astonishingly literal thus far, and in those terms the two gargoyles are Fiona and Jasper, connected to each other via their bonds to Chloe.

@@Landis963 Given Jasper is the one who offed the Sheriff and he is used for enforcer type jobs and given Fiona is a scheming ventrue they could be represented by Slaughter and strategy.

Lot of people saying that the gargoyles in the vision are actually some of the vampires we saw. Is it possible that there were actually unseen gargoyles in this scene watching over Eva?

Given the Tremere connection to Gargoyles, it can't be an accident that they were described as such, but Jasper's and Fiona's relationships to Eva certainly don't fit the servitor role that Gargolyes played before the Tremere lost control of them. Hmm.

Strategy - Fiona? Slaughter - Jasper? Paper - false, manufactured Heart - Symbol of love, passion, life Glass - Symbol of Fragility Red thread - Binding fate, also symbolizes an intertwining. Add it all up, and you get Eva being anguished over making a choice that would cause her to lose someone she cares for. She would help break a bond of false attraction, and it will be superseded by one of fate, and she is now put in between two people on different sides.

I got all of that I speak fluent Malkavian.

@@douglasmccoy5414 What was the four hawks following a river? I never got that part.

@@lavrentivs9891 " 3 Hawks for a girl" chasing a red head down a river. Chelsea, Dimitrios, and Ib going after Chloe

Also: Chloe: You're as handsome as ever! Eva: *Would rather be anywhere else rn*

@bludrk returns She's been on a bit of an emotional and druggy rollerclaster. I think she's earned a bit of unhinged time!

A predatory cat...like...a cougar mayhaps?

right?!?!

I was 19 seconds in and thinking that

I thought that the first time it showed her to have ghouled Chloe.

nah, she is such a good beast-loving ventrue!

Preach it brother! I desperately look forward to seeing her nights come to an end at Jasper's hand for what she has done! I want Jasper to drink her dry and diablerize her.

He is lucky that they are inmortal, and even with that...

Thank you very much! It was an emotionally intense and exhausting episode for us all, but we are proud of it. :)

I’ve watched this through 5 times now and it never gets tired. Allowed me to focus on all the facial expressions and eye inter-action between the characters. So much to read. Fiona actually played this so well and the character has really grown on me. Also I do think a Becca Scott neck fetish will now be a thing! 🥰 hehe

It would be funny and ironic if she grew attached to Chloe given how cold and aloof she is.

It would be even more advantageous to have people running tabs on said burner phones. A lot of work maybe, but it would pay off big time

The Kue-Jin technically control the burner phone market.. cheap Chinese cellphones. The Ventrue own the more traditional smartphone market

NightshadeTS 🖤

@@josephinemcadam6185 🧛‍♀️🖤

yes but Eva was not directing that at Jasper but Fiona.

@@bartconnolly6104 Not so sure about that, Eva is clearly unhappy with Jasper's ex coming back in his life... that's the way i feel it, maybe i'm wrong...

@@tofton1977 Probably true that Eva is unhappy. But as I have stated I don't think Eva regards Jasper as someone for which she has to constantly clean up his messes. She regards him with some admiration and even owes him. Considering one of his "messes" involved risking his own life and risking breaking the masquerade and deliberately attacking a powerful Kindred enforcer "sheriff" without knowledge of whether this brought the Camarilla down on him in order to protect/preserve Eva's coterie, Eva trusts and respects Jasper.

@@bartconnolly6104 Victor keeps trying to rip her off on favors. In the first episode of the series he offered her a boom, but when she needed something she had to give one instead. Then even after she went above and beyond to help them more than she needed to with the ghosts incident, he still acts like she owns him. In the previous epilogue he was talking about "collecting her boom" to make she agree with letting the Nosferatu look into the park. Jesper and her both have personal favors over each other, as they said before, and now she even helped with this, and ended up as a caretaker for Chloe...

She CLEAREDDDD this role

So true. Really talented woman.

Ikr ... Like if there's a invisible salurbi just 😓😤😒 at her statement.

Meh, the Servants would think the same things about the Cyclops' Salout's broods are fucked up. No idea why ANYONE thinks he was ever the good guy

Clan Tremere: Step 1: Get a bunch of power. Step 2: Step 3: Profit.

@@Dementat why do you say that is there something he did is not good?

@@jamesisaacson6379 everything Salout did is not good. Stealing a half learned magic from the Kuejin, creates 3 bloodlines just to have them diablarise each other, drove Malkav mad and convinced *redacted* to let Troile devour their soul was the only way out. Salout is the big bad of VtM and I have a web of evidence to prove it......

There were 3 ghouls rescuing Chloe... There were 4 inquisition members that pulled her from Fiona. "saving" Chloe is very interpretable.

I would also make the counterpoint that the moon yes/no thing was actually Jeanettes back and forth from I like you/I hate you comments she made.

I want to say Victor's vision has something to do with Nellie, since they've talked before about how texting a blue heart is their thing

There were 4 Agents who chased/abducted Chloe. The Heart for Eva could also represent the bond between Fiona and chloe. We DO know victors vision. Or half of it. The candle is the Griffith memorial obelysk. Light/laser beam is the ley lines running to the Park.

@@apttiger I think the tall candle was supposed to be the place where Nelli's relatives are buried and the blue crystal light show was using her necklace to unlock it.

"no negative repercoshing" ©

Must be a tad bit like how Victor is looking after someone whose doing his kid .... All types of weird the lot of it.

I kinda wish I didn't scroll down far below. Now I can't unread this. LOL

We're trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty.

Episodes full of RP without action are always more intense in the world of darkness because it isgam of Thrones with soulless blood drinkers.

Until this hunger gets the better of her and Eva eats Chloe on the ride home.

They smashed!? 😮

looks like shes superb in investigation and resertch, she can become amazing Nosferatu or Tremer (but i highly doubt Ever do something like that)

And then she gets turned by a Malkavian when no one is looking. Surprise!

Our crew is absolutely amazing!

So far this series is the only one that gives that much attention (obfuscate is another cool effect). I can't wait to see what you guys do for season 4 🙏

Thanks for the kind words and I'm glad you're enjoying the story! As for getting bigger...we get 3 hours once a week for 8 or 9 episodes a season. This is why we created the endcaps (the short "stingers" at the end) and the epilogues. :)

So glad I'm not the only one thinking this! And you can't watch the VODs on Twitch unless you've subbed as well

I get what you're saying but they do a re-broadcast at a more European friendly time as well.

@@Varzio Yeah, but I either miss those, or they're for subbs, either or. I only ever use Twitch for LA By Night, the off-chance I catch CR or, like major reveals from conventions and the like. Probably could pay for a subscription, but I'm not sure if that'd be worth it; it might, don't get me wrong, I'm just unsure *right now*.

@@14Flamefish Nice thing about subs is you can cancel em. You're not locking yourself into a year. Granted, I don't know your situation, but $5 to find out isn't too bad a price.

@@GahloWake Nah, don't worry, 5$ isn't bad; I just find it weird why they do it; seems like almost every other show gets uploaded way sooner. If push comes to shove, I wouldn't miss the 5 bucks, but, as I've said, I only use Twitch for LA By Night, the off-chance I catch CR, which gets uploaded to KZfaq on Monday afterwards; and any major reveals, which tend to not even be hosted by Geek&Sundry.

I've watched it several times since it first streamed and it wrecks me every time XD

Fiona was seriously scared of giving any blood to a witch and, but for the fact Jasper was there and would probably remove the blood anyway, might not have given it. She doesn't care about Chloe except where it assists her grasp on power and control. Eva doesn't care much for Chloe either but isn't the type to manipulate her. Although it will ironically draw Jasper closer to her. It is a kind of Jeanette /Therese problem. Ultimately chloe might be safest in House Carna working on the Labyrinth with Jasper and Eva and training as a Tramere in Evas chantry to be attached to Victor's court. It would bind Jasper into Victors plans and Bring the coterie/ Chantry closer together making Victor a true Baron ( and a target). Of course, under anarch control, the Chantry would have to be independent and open to approach by other Barons. But individual Tramere could attach to any coterie.

oh my god i'm only halfway through this episode and it's like a punch to the gut

Fiona's impatience with people's dramatic lollygagging gives me so much life. Also, I'm struggling to remember the basis for the animosity between her and Eva?

She always looks that way and that's why I love her.