KILLERS OF MEN: The Fierce Amazon Women Were Real?

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Жыл бұрын

The Amazons are legend in the history of Ancient Greece. Described as “the daughters of Ares.” And the “Equals of men” these women lived in their own villages, among which is their capital, Themyscira. The city was said to be fortified on the Thermodon River. Here the women lived free of men but in a region inhabited by barbarians and man-eating cannibals who know no law or justice. They maintained their independence by being fierce warriors. The neighboring Scythians called them Oiorpata, meaning the “killers of men”. They were experts on the horse and with bows and Javelins. No man was permitted to stay in their cities. To maintain their population they captured men from neighboring tribes in order to conceive children. If a pregnancy resulted in a girl, she would be raised as a warrior. If it was a boy, it would be abandoned or killed. They don’t marry. To marry would mean they cease being an Amazon.
The description of the Amazons above was used in the opening of this episode. Questions exist to this day on whether they were myth or a real people. The Histories recorded tell an interesting story and recent archeological evidence is compelling. Watch the video and decide for yourself. Were the Amazons real? And if they were, what happened to them?
**I would like to apologize. A number of the primary sources referenced in this episode were done so second hand. I found it very difficult to get a hold of some of the works of the ancient authors referenced and was left to resort to the works of secondary sources that quoted them. As far as I have been able to tell they are valid and the secondary sources used are reputable. If it is any consolation, this video took nearly twice as long to research as I searched in vain for works I could not find. **
Resources:
The Histories by Herodotus (Book)
Post Colonial Amazons by Walter Duvall Penrose Jr. (Book) books.google.com/books?id=4cF...
The Amazon Women: Is There Any Truth Behind the Myth? By Amanda Foreman www.smithsonianmag.com/histor...
Amazons www.greekmythology.com/Myths/....
Amazons en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazons
The Women Warriors- the Sarmatians www.silkroadfoundation.org/art...
The Amazons Were More Than A Myth: Archaeological And Written Evidence For The Ancient Warrior Women by Carly Silver allthatsinteresting.com/amazo...

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@i-vlog1994 Жыл бұрын

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@datesanddeadguys Жыл бұрын

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@Tdavhomestead 9 ай бұрын

@@datesanddeadguysthere has been noticeable differences between videos from a year ago and those posted more recently. I love to see it. The comment above is 💯

@speakupriseup4549 Жыл бұрын

The Amazons must has been incredible assassins, imagine an entire tribe being so committed to backstabbing.

@dqreps Жыл бұрын

Well they are women after all 😂

@josephjagusah8668 Жыл бұрын

you joke, but that's more or less what military black-ops are about. Factionalism and infighting are a facet of the military that no one likes talking about, not even the anti-war people are willing to touch that with a 10-foot pole. It implies a startling ... relevance. it's one thing to say tyfys to a vet, but when you start implying that the military has a political role, that interferes with the ideals of professionalism and civilian control that everyone likes to pretend is a real thing.

@badconnection4383 Жыл бұрын

@@josephjagusah8668 So is that why the Army and the Marines like to insult one another?

@cheesewipes Жыл бұрын

Great video, I never actually thought about whether they were real or not so the information provided is incredibly interesting. Keep it up.

@eagleman1542 Жыл бұрын

I was wondering what the relationship (if any) there is between Lesbos and the Amazonians, thanks for addressing that issue.

@zayseeu8337 11 ай бұрын

💀💀💀 u need a better hobby

@gregrobinette8620 7 ай бұрын

Well idk if the Amazonians had boats, Lesbos is an island. I'm somewhat curious about Lesbian-Amazonian relations too 👍🏽

@mrmaxx4400 Жыл бұрын

I just subscribed - Thank you for all your informative videos.

@fire_tower Жыл бұрын

I'd never read the full Hippocratic Oath. The fact that it also established doctor patient confidentiality is pretty neat.

@andrewmaccallum2367 11 ай бұрын

Keep up your excellent work 👏👏👏

@solyluna1778 Жыл бұрын

Great video 👍

@vepr1332 Жыл бұрын

A crazy, fierce , competitive woman is a lot of fun...for about 3 weeks. The term " hit and run " is not just for baseball and automobiles.

@christopherfisher128 Жыл бұрын

Tomyris, also called Thomyris, Tomris, or Tomiride, was a queen who reigned over the Massagetae (Modern Iran) She would have existed after the time Homer described the Amazons. The Scythians also reportedly had women warriors.

@roksanamakowska-michalak369 3 ай бұрын

@Dates and Dead Guys could you please recommend (or share) list of classical and modern, academic titles I should look into while researching the Amazons? I want to read ALL is out there and systemise my knowledge. Thank you! :)

@datesanddeadguys 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for the comment. I have actually already done that. If you go to the episode description I included the resources I used for the video. The heaviest influence I took was from Herodotus.

@drj.r.cooper2493 Жыл бұрын

The "wisdom" of the Greek philosopher/physician escapes me...breast tissue is OBVIOUSLY not muscle. As a bow hunter, I have shot a bow many times. Only the left breast interferes with shooting a bow for right handed women...and then only VERY rarely. Thus, painfully removing a baby thermos & exposing a future warrior to infection is very illogical.

@oceanberserker Жыл бұрын

No one ever said everything they did back then was sensible.

@josephjagusah8668 Жыл бұрын

they did it when they were like 5yo. if the kid died of infection, well, just wait another 5 years or whatever. that's how the thinking generally went on marking out your children as members of the tribe.

@simonmoorcroft1417 Жыл бұрын

The archaeology suggests that the tribes of Pontic steppes and Western Siberia during the Bronze and Iron age did allow women to bear weapons and train for war. A number of burials of the Scyths, Sarmatians and Saka have contained young women dressed for war. You will note that the Vikings too had a concept of the 'shield maiden'. A young unmarried women trained in the art of war. It was not unknown to the Celts and German's too. Many Greek cultural groups and thus city states were some what misogynistic. Women were supposed to be demure and obedient, fit for only child rearing and household tasks. The Spartan women were some what of an exception. Although they were certainly not warrior-like. I imagine that a few Greek traders living in the colonies that existed in what is now Ukraine and Crimea may have encountered Scythian and Sarmatian groups containing armed women at trading posts. They would have found this strange and shocking. Its probably how some exaggerated stories led to the legend of the Amazons. Of course the Steppe tribes themselves looked very odd to the Greeks. They were long haired barbarians with strange clothes decorated with golden plaques. I think the Greeks may have considered them feminine in a way.

@ianmpena Жыл бұрын

The most bizarre thing about Amazons in mythology is that they can stay young forever, and they are one of the deadliest female warriors because they would take over and conquer small towns, kidnap young men or boys, torture or rape them if they found them attractive, and it's disgusting that they would rape young boys without food or water, and it's horrible for what they did.

@i-vlog1994 Жыл бұрын

So what every single conquering army did for centuries and still continues today by third world countries?

@scarletshield009 Жыл бұрын

Well...sheesh!

@Dojafish 10 ай бұрын

That a Mytho We don't know if this is true .

@ericgeneric5548 Жыл бұрын

What does "sufferers of stone" mean?

@nancyswass119 10 ай бұрын

I agree

@WFshorts 9 ай бұрын

You've made all my fantasies real my man. I owe you an eternal debt, but for now a sub will have to do.

@Hborn Жыл бұрын

Is this real or was a book

@elshebactm6769 Жыл бұрын

🤠👍🏿

@datesanddeadguys Жыл бұрын

Hey. You worked through a lot of my videos. I appreciate you taking the time. I hope you enjoyed them.

@elshebactm6769 Жыл бұрын

@@datesanddeadguys yes i liked a lot your videos, especially the ones related to the americas(im non english speaker so im not writing large comments just the 🤠👍🏿 to support)

@stever4128 4 ай бұрын

I think it was myth. Myth based in reality. They've found kurgens with warrior princesses inside.

@Devi_Shammuramat 11 күн бұрын

Amazonian tribe of Benin was said to have conquered the entire African continent - giving rise to the Atlantic slave trade, when captives from the conquered lands were sold to Portuguese merchants

@riverland22 Жыл бұрын

He carried a pencil and paper with him constantly?

@eastcoastt8272 Жыл бұрын

Is this real 😂

@datesanddeadguys Жыл бұрын

It’s all based in the historical evidence. So from the writings and archeology, it could all possibly be real. Or at least reality could be close to the myths.

@drj.r.cooper2493 Жыл бұрын

"Honey I don't want to live with your parents! Tell'em to build us a house... and buy me a BMW!" 🤔 Yep...Sounds about right!😂🤣

@delphidelion 11 ай бұрын

Sorry to see such misogyny pop up in your comments. Thank you for the context.

@heroesytumbas 10 ай бұрын

Sorry to see your cringy comment on a video about a myth.

@gregrobinette8620 7 ай бұрын

I feel bad for them, I want to say this respectfully but it sounds mocking. These men who are pissed over this probably were hurt by women, or are tired of todays politocal BS. I'm glad that I know not to be triggered by stuff like this video, but be critique of woke movies like "The Woman King", which was inaccurate & basically worshipped a slave empires capturing force. I do hope both genders can come together & realize this childish 'gender war' is cringe, like the Navahū Diné did.