Dating An Avoidant Person? Here's 4 Ways To THRIVE With Them

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@veral2274
@veral2274 Ай бұрын
It's absolutely exhausting. It leads you to emotional and physical burnout. And this is coming from a secure leaning on anxious. Which might explain how I've been in this rollercoaster for 2 years. A full blown anxious preoccupied wouldn't have lasted 2 months.
@andziagreen4922
@andziagreen4922 Ай бұрын
I totally agree with you
@karinanikoghos7285
@karinanikoghos7285 Ай бұрын
How absolutely incredibly psychologically resilient one must be to have an avoidant partner!!! Damn it lol. Don't touch them, don't talk to them, pretend you are dead, don't breathe, give them a choice to decide if they want you to be alive 😂😂 And yet, I am still with one lol Jokes aside, nice video ❤
@andziagreen4922
@andziagreen4922 Ай бұрын
True. I have ptsd after his sudden discard. Never again
@ayomikokila271
@ayomikokila271 Ай бұрын
True
@jenniferparisi424
@jenniferparisi424 Ай бұрын
They have all these needs and our needs don't matter
@derrickak17
@derrickak17 Ай бұрын
That’s exactly how they feel. “You have all these needs and mine don’t even matter”
@Pptsonyt8553
@Pptsonyt8553 Ай бұрын
I'm AP and I know it's hard to understand, but I'm pretty sure the DA also feels the way we do but we don't understand it either... So sad actually 😅
@brianmeen2158
@brianmeen2158 Ай бұрын
I have to be honest - serious relationships don’t even sound enjoyable at this point. So much work that goes into it and folks being so much baggage and it could end at any moment. Exhausting especially for someone that tends to enjoy solitude for the most part
@pure-pisces9980
@pure-pisces9980 Ай бұрын
Exactly......giving, giving, giving.....i felt so taken for granted.....extremely hard to NOT personalise......what about giving back, listening, understanding the other.... It would of helped 100%!!! Im an AP ......extremely painful & crushing!!!! Never knowing where the hell i stood!!!...😢​@@derrickak17
@norswil8763
@norswil8763 Ай бұрын
Wrong, your needs do matter to them. If boundaries are clearly stated, compromised and settled upon there shouldn’t be any surprises. Meet halfway, anxious behaviours are demanding, no attachment behaviour set should be entirely served. Communication and intunement also key.
@zkhan9936
@zkhan9936 17 күн бұрын
1. Do NOT Chase 2. Try To Reduce the amount of criticism you bring to the relationship 3. Stop making demands or using ultimatums 4. Try not personalize what is happening
@tatianawoellner6620
@tatianawoellner6620 14 күн бұрын
How not chase? Then it is a no contact relationship 🤷🏻‍♀️They took so long to initiate any conversation 🧐
@cangrejitamiry
@cangrejitamiry 7 күн бұрын
That’s the opposite of what Thais says. She says you must see your needs through with avoidants.
@Barbara-zo6pq
@Barbara-zo6pq Ай бұрын
I give opportunities for closeness but get turned down. Creates insecurities in me.
@teresmitch88
@teresmitch88 Ай бұрын
I dumped him . He became a cry baby . 😭 I did everything you said not to do . I don’t have the patience for that immature shit
@robertdeskoski9783
@robertdeskoski9783 Ай бұрын
Unless they're in therapy and working on what is most likely C-PTSD, none of this matters.
@migueld5227
@migueld5227 Ай бұрын
Sounds like the only way to have a relationship with an avoidant is to have zero boundaries
@mrsherwood2599
@mrsherwood2599 Ай бұрын
There ya go 👍
@andziagreen4922
@andziagreen4922 Ай бұрын
Exactly, is doing everything to make avoidant to choose to stay and love you the way you deserve but never communicating any vulnerability. Been there and never again
@raycarden7941
@raycarden7941 Ай бұрын
It's exactly the opposite, we avoidants hate spineless pushovers
@mrsherwood2599
@mrsherwood2599 Ай бұрын
@@raycarden7941 and everyone else.
@migueld5227
@migueld5227 Ай бұрын
@@raycarden7941 I disagree. What you avoidants think you hate and what you instinctively hate are two different things
@Ikaros23
@Ikaros23 Ай бұрын
The best move is to go « no contact» with avoidants. They can’t connect with others, because of their mental dissorder. But they still crave attention/validation. 1: We can’t fix their anxiety 2: Their anxiety and mental dissorder is not our responsibility Just let them go
@OneManCollaboration
@OneManCollaboration Ай бұрын
Exactly. There is no winning just leave
@giselabrat3724
@giselabrat3724 Ай бұрын
Why stay with an avoidant? Is an equal relationship of both give and take not healthier? It does feel like a lot of work from one part only.
@OneManCollaboration
@OneManCollaboration Ай бұрын
Here’s the REALITY. Just LEAVE. If you have any self love and respect, let this person go and focus back on your own life. These people will drain you, abuse you, and discard you like worthless trash when just the day before you were the love of their life and their entire world. Get off the anxiety inducing and insanity creating tightrope and save yourself. I know it sucks. I know you love them very much. But trust me. SAVE YOURSELF
@caitlinsoliman1658
@caitlinsoliman1658 Ай бұрын
Why should people even stay with an avoidant person??? I get loving the person but you do not even mention that thought.
@MrSamIAm39
@MrSamIAm39 12 күн бұрын
Save your sanity and run
@surfreadjumpsleep
@surfreadjumpsleep Ай бұрын
Honestly do not bother.
@tatianawoellner6620
@tatianawoellner6620 14 күн бұрын
This is life. How not to personalise. It is a couple relationship. Both people need to be validated
@iamthem
@iamthem Ай бұрын
Great! But what about the feminine that doesn’t want to make decisions? I don’t know how many times I have been told, “I don’t want to figure this out.” “I don’t want to make the decisions.” The man/masculine takes the lead. But when the man/masculine is leaning more toward the anxious attachment.. it can be a bit convoluted.
@11Cannons
@11Cannons 15 күн бұрын
thats an interesting situation, mine is stuck in the masculine which is fear of losing control. I lead on almost all plans, but the frequency is what she holds on to. Im fighting the calendar of more plans and time spent. When you are leading, does that help the anxious side calm down? It has for myself.
@amantinoubliable
@amantinoubliable Ай бұрын
Thank you for your consistency and your videos Connor! Let's bump the algo straight away...
@ManTalks
@ManTalks Ай бұрын
Appreciate that!
@CsVintageCo
@CsVintageCo Ай бұрын
My dude.... You are Nailing it!
@derrickfennell8130
@derrickfennell8130 Ай бұрын
Thanks dude, I needed to hear this
@davidepace5819
@davidepace5819 Ай бұрын
Such a big help
@OG_zennedout
@OG_zennedout Ай бұрын
This was very helpful, thank you
@Djboborei
@Djboborei Ай бұрын
Why stoop so low to date a ticking time bomb with zero regards for you?
@OneManCollaboration
@OneManCollaboration Ай бұрын
Exactly
@inquisitivewanderer2536
@inquisitivewanderer2536 Ай бұрын
Wow - this is gold, I tell you.. gold.
@tjthetiger1980
@tjthetiger1980 Ай бұрын
Great advice my man! Thankyou 🙏🏽✊🏽
@edithamaliaioo2228
@edithamaliaioo2228 Ай бұрын
Very wise, great advice, thank you! This is best video on DAs I have seen so far , very good !
@dja-juicepowersourceproduc2887
@dja-juicepowersourceproduc2887 Ай бұрын
Great video brother real good information. Keep up the amazing work 👍 God bless 🙌 🙏
@musokiemily336
@musokiemily336 Ай бұрын
So so so so true. It's true. I believe that.
@VicBerger
@VicBerger Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Botch_TV
@Botch_TV Ай бұрын
I have the fearful avoidant attachment style, I’m in therapy working on it. I’ve been single for 10 years after an abusive relationship. I like what you said about ultimatums. It’s true and having choices taken away from you at a young age is huge. I had to be the man of the house without my father around so I didn’t have much choice growing up along with medical issues. My abusive ex refused to give choices. It was her way or no way at all. Criticism too is a big thing. I do appreciate the opportunity to choose. I never got those choices. I connect with people, it just takes me a bit to warm up to someone. When I had to work, my ex hated it. She never said the things I was good at, it was always criticism. I understand the importance of healing and bettering yourself too. I think if someone isn’t ready to tell somebody something, they shouldn’t be forced to. Creating that choice dynamic and making the person feel comfortable enough to share it with you is important. I have shared things when I’ve felt comfortable enough with someone because they created that comfortable environment by being nonjudgmental and affirming that they wouldn’t be. It’s important to create that with your partner so they feel heard for both the avoidant and the other person.
@tatianawoellner6620
@tatianawoellner6620 14 күн бұрын
It is exhausting 😩I wish I could go back and not have met him. Easier to learn how to stop loving him altogether 😢
@brownsugardelima
@brownsugardelima 11 күн бұрын
Me too! I regret staying in the relationship, wish I cut it off the first time he disappeard.
@Nicole-yz7bo
@Nicole-yz7bo 13 күн бұрын
Thank you ❤
@carlorizzo827
@carlorizzo827 Ай бұрын
ThankU This is pretty great! I love you said "avoidant state". Reinforces that these terms are not meant to label people. I appreciate your words on criticism. I've come to see that as alcoholic behavior. A waste. I'm single, lots o pain there. But i have a best friend who often avoids. Lacking romantic tension, I easily remain patient. He appreciates it! I respect his privacy. The reward is he gradually has become more forthcoming
@tatianawoellner6620
@tatianawoellner6620 14 күн бұрын
I’m sorry but they unable to make decisions. They just act like a child and ask what do you want?! 😢
@marievorburger
@marievorburger Ай бұрын
Agreed. Ask an avoidant and give them small choices to make and their ability to trust and feel safe will grow much faster.
@DevinAK49
@DevinAK49 Ай бұрын
Ill try the choices. Im anxious af and working in it. My wife is so patient, but right now we want different things. Im stuggleing with not backsliding.
@robdog4095
@robdog4095 Ай бұрын
Gold
@karasmusic123
@karasmusic123 Ай бұрын
So offer them choices.
@_D_A_V_E_
@_D_A_V_E_ Ай бұрын
Could you discuss pathological demand avoidance on the part of the avoidant? I feel like this is a roadblock to what you’ve said about giving options because if resentment is built up and there’s PDA, it likely won’t work.
@claudiateixeira3406
@claudiateixeira3406 Ай бұрын
Jesus! This video should be" How to deal with a Princess!!"!! Or " Be an insect or the princess will beat you!!"
@erica2105
@erica2105 Ай бұрын
But this way...our needs don't matter at all? We have to shape ourselves to fit the avoidant agenda?
@dragonpegasus1231
@dragonpegasus1231 Ай бұрын
from what I experienced as anxious, I learned to focus on myself more, by looking for positive activity that I can explore.. I contact him once in 2 days just to check his condition by chat and send him a joke or funny videos. we meet biweekly and i negotiate our date activity with him. look at him as a partner in life, but still prioritize myself.. so far it works out.
@erica2105
@erica2105 Ай бұрын
@@dragonpegasus1231 is that good enough for you?
@edinbrodlic4564
@edinbrodlic4564 Ай бұрын
But is that really a life partner?
@dragonpegasus1231
@dragonpegasus1231 Ай бұрын
@@edinbrodlic4564 we still have long way to go, but so far we're comfortable. The idea is to fix ourselves so we can have a more stable relationship. as long as we communicate frequently and try to find solutions to our attachment issues in a positive way. I think that's what a life partner does.
@LorenzoMasterConnector
@LorenzoMasterConnector Ай бұрын
I think this information is not meant to enable but to Better understand the person you’re with because you almost never really know who you’re with until you notice patterns. Unfortunately at times if we truly want to be with someone our desire to learn how to work with them is the ultimate sign of love. Now that doesn’t mean to be the only one doing this but perhaps by helping understand the other side it can help the other side begin to meet you also where you may be at. Very nuanced topic
@vickibazter3446
@vickibazter3446 20 сағат бұрын
No Joy
@user-qb5wy5dg8w
@user-qb5wy5dg8w 10 күн бұрын
I love your channel and your advice. But this video shows that we need to babysit an avoidant partner .. What seems to be working for us is going to couple therapy and him understanding the harm he's causing and that isn't just my own pov. All your last 3 tips require us to be the bigger person, the adult, while DA is the kid to be taken care of. I don't see those to thrive with anyone except for children. They need to have accountability and self-awareness. Maybe those tips are applicable when the DA is in their healing journey and starting to change or willing to change, other than that, it's just too much.
@Bohemian_lost
@Bohemian_lost Ай бұрын
I wonder what if you are both avoident in a realationship? Please I need some advice
@KR-ou2qo
@KR-ou2qo Ай бұрын
2:56 How do you reduce the amount of criticism coming from the avoidant?
@Darkhalo314
@Darkhalo314 Ай бұрын
I'm starting to think that i'm avoidat attachement...
@brownsugardelima
@brownsugardelima 11 күн бұрын
I’m dating an avoidant.. I think we are dating lol, is so hard not to take it personally! He disappears two weeks at a time , but he is so nice when we are together. I don’t think I can go on with him.
@brownsugardelima
@brownsugardelima 11 күн бұрын
Are we saying here that I should be patient and tip toe around his behavior? I’m don’t think I can keep dating him/avoidant much longer, I don’t do well with abandonment and have to wait for him to reach out to me. I’m done.
@fiction589
@fiction589 Ай бұрын
Wenn mein Hund geklaut wird, werd ich zum Tier. Dann geh ich über Leichen. Dann sollte der Täter um sein Leben rennen. Meinen Hund klauen, das ist vermutlich das letzte was du tust....😅😮
@Andreus154
@Andreus154 Ай бұрын
Good video but too long . Try to keep the videos under 15min and you will get more subscribers and views
@johnny4062
@johnny4062 Ай бұрын
This video is 10 minutes long though
@stevenbrady440
@stevenbrady440 9 күн бұрын
Scammer spam
@Phatxual
@Phatxual Ай бұрын
Thanks for this! The very last fact in this vid was basically what started the spiral in my last relationship, and I now realize it was probably my fault for taking shit personally🤔😢😅
@chelsy2255
@chelsy2255 5 сағат бұрын
Then it's simply impossible to have a relationship with them. Let's put it out there. You have to become avoidant either or have someone normal on the side. If you cannot criticise, you make your unhappiness your own problem, don't chase but they won't do either, don't demand anything, don't, don't, don't anything. All these but particularly giving choices are killing the relationship. Having to ask all the f.. time do you want this or this? Whaaaat? Then you don't need to take these people's problems and make them your own. They need to simply sort themselves out or stay the f.. single. The world doesn't revolve around them, they have the problems not anyone else. Just leave them at the first signs, you have to exercise your own choice of not wanting a torturous and unfulfilling relationship with someone mental.
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