DCS World - NATO Aircraft Losses Over Bosnia, 1992-95, Part 2

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In this video, we talk about the third and fourth NATO aircraft shot down over Bosnia. The third one was certainly the most famous case. It involved a USAF F-16 piloted by Captain Scott O'Grady. The aircraft was hit by an SA-6 missile belonging to Bosnian Serbs while on a Deny Flight patrol. Despite a direct hit, O'Grady ejected. He managed to survive for six days, evading Serb search parties, eating ants and collecting rainwater. Then finally, another F-16 pilot picked up on his radio beacon and confirmed that he was alive after all. A USMC rescue team was sent to pick him up and despite running into serious Serbian anti-aircraft defense, O'Grady was safely evacuated.
Final NATO aircraft shot down over Bosnia belonged to the French Air Force. A two-seater Mirage 2000N took part in Operation Deliberate Force. Immediately after releasing their bombs on a Serbian ammunition depot, Captain Frédéric Chiffot and Lieutenant José Souvignet had to eject from their Mirage that was hit by a shoulder-launched missile.
Main sources:
- Basher Five-Two: The True Story of F-16 Fighter Pilot Captain Scott O'Grady
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- OBARANJE SKOT O GREJDIJA KOD BOSANSKOG PETROVCA: Da li je pilot F-16 HEROJ, KUKAVICA ILI SAMO SREĆNIK?
vojnopolitickaosmatracnica.wo...
- The Aviation Geek Club - F-16 down: Scott O’Grady explains how he was shot down over Bosnia
theaviationgeekclub.com/f-16-...
- Situation Critical - S01E05 - Downed Pilot
• Situation Critical - S...
- Amid Tears and Laughter, French Pilots Shot Down by Serbs Return Home
apnews.com/article/b8c21d0155...
- U.S. airmen injured in French rescue attempt
edition.cnn.com/WORLD/Bosnia/u...
Special thanks to Andrija Kostić for helping with the research!
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@giannis9833 2 жыл бұрын

The Serbs had all the radars switched off and they were using passive sensors (ELINT) to scan for signals.. The anti-air batteries were preemptively dispersed away from their garrisons. When a signal was detected they would switch on the radar for 20 seconds to guide the anti-air missiles and then switch it off again.. This tactic is called emission control (EMCON). They also used many decoys "SAM-launchers" to confuse the Western bombers and consume their expensive weapons without success.

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for contributing info!

@milans.637 2 жыл бұрын

he is croatian my greek bro he knows everything but thanks for your share, your comment is great. Respect from Serbia

@barryhill1044 2 жыл бұрын

The thing is this... Many systems use The “Mass” of the target as it’s identification... Which means Once the target is seen by the aggressor’s missiles optics Very little interference ( if any ) will stop it impacting the target ! Any Electronic interference would be secondary to the missiles mission because the target would ( by then ) be sighted and targeted .... I’m a novice at these arguments so I am open to contrary argument... this is just my opinion..

@tomsuh1362 2 жыл бұрын

Future South China Sea!

@m0rvidusm0rvidus18 2 жыл бұрын

The ''Western''' forces are used to dealing with low IQ populations. They got a few surprises when taking on a European military for a change, even if it was a small one.

@stevanmedojevic5055 2 жыл бұрын

My friend have parts of this F-16 at home.

@DadoSG 2 жыл бұрын

I have parts of a Nighthawk. But, i cant see it, its inivisible

@user-dy6wm4qb1c 2 жыл бұрын

@@DadoSG Only Serbs can see it. 🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸

@lovemym16 2 жыл бұрын

@@user-dy6wm4qb1c bomb bay door must still be open

@protohass Жыл бұрын

Sorry we didn't know it was invisible

@princybella5386 Жыл бұрын

Still got your butts kicked though.

@andrijakostic3941 2 жыл бұрын

Sto se mene tice, 10+ ocena za ovaj video! Samo napred, ovakav sadrzaj je toliko odlican i originalan, da je pitanje momenta kada ce tvoj kanal doziveti nevidjeni uspeh! Smatram da bukvalno ceo svet treba da vidi tvoj trud i posvecenost koji izdvajaju ovaj kanal od svih drugih vezanih za DCS. Puno pozdrava, druze! :-)

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Puno hvala na ovom komentaru podrške! Drago mi je da si zadovoljan rezultatom.

@nenadbrkic5761 2 жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 Pohvale za kanal .Imas materijala iz 1999 o bombardovamju RS i CG da su oboreni ili pogodjeni oko 100 aviona Nato alijanse.Plus nekoliko hilihoptera je oboreno punih komandosa koji su trebali da spasu oborene pilote. Milan Vidojevic iznosi Ruske obavestajne podatke mozez pogledati. Zato nato nikad nije izneo svoje gubitke. Sve te podatke mi je potvrdio general u to vreme a sada u penziji Miro Gobovic licno,ali ti podaci nisu smeli nikad javno da se iznose posle 2000 godine jer je Nato ima i danas svoju ispostavu u generalstabu.Puno pozdrava.

@zekoslav 2 жыл бұрын

@@nenadbrkic5761 aviJona...heliHoptera? I ovakvi koriste internet

@nenadbrkic5761 2 жыл бұрын

@@zekoslavPravopisna greska se desi u kuckanju,ali izgleda da vam vise smeta zasto su oborene te iste letelice nato bande.

@Denkooo100 2 жыл бұрын

@@nenadbrkic5761 100 aviona!? Koji je to film???

@spite8431 2 жыл бұрын

Nice finished part 1 like 2 hours ago was wondering when the second part was gonna come out nice work

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much, I hope you liked it.

@eugeneoreilly9356 2 жыл бұрын

26 seconds sounds right for the SA6 radar as the SA6 is radar guided and the time from launch to impact would roughly equate to that.

@richardhasler6718 2 жыл бұрын

Dear Showtime112, thanks for an excellent and informative video, most of which was never clear in the news at the time, or later. From reading some of the comments below, it looks like the war hasn't ended! Kind regards and keep safe!

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and commenting! It takes time to fully investigate and understand something. News usually don't have the full picture. As for the comments, you might be right. Some of the issues haven't been resolved. I sometimes feel like just turning off the comment section on every video but then, I wouldn't get the positive feedback either.

@box8brewing829 2 жыл бұрын

Showtime112, my favorite historical aeronautical DCS channel!

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for the words of support!

@Deacon271 2 жыл бұрын

Hi! If memory serves me right an F117 A was also shot down. I don’t remember the circumstances though. Would be great to see a recreation of that some day. But great job with all your recreation videos till date, I’ve enjoyed watching them all!

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. The F-117 was shot down during the Operation Allied Force in 1999. That is another conflict (only partly connected with the war in Bosnia). It will probably be covered someday too.

@hefalump11 2 жыл бұрын

Nighthawk was shoot down by serbian S-125 Newa in 1999. It was the other war.

@AdamosDad 2 жыл бұрын

Many are saying that the NEVA missile shoot down in 1999, of the F117 made it useless, not so. The Serbs did take good advantage of the fact that with long wave radar they could detect the plane at about 30 kilometers when it opened its bomb bay doors, they had positioned missile batteries along routs that NATO planes were using, which was a bad mistake that planners had made (flying the same rout many times) When they detected the F-117 with doors open they new course and speed and also used optical sightings to shoot, they ripple fired missiles and got lucky. The Serbs were very good and smart shooters but it would not have happened if the NATO planners had done there jobs properly. Besides we lost 1 F-117 and 1 F-16 what did Serbia lose.

@onlytrue5169 2 жыл бұрын

@@AdamosDad hahahhaha, if NATO told the real truth about the losses, the Netherlands lost only 4 planes and 2 were hit, but they managed to land in Italy

@AdamosDad 2 жыл бұрын

@@onlytrue5169 Was that in 99'? I'm sorry, I should have said American losses, NATO did the planning and of course the US was a large part of that but, I was only counting US losses. I believe a lot of the mistakes that were made were because they were a bit lazy and following the same routes, was an easy way to make the various forces more interoperable.

@margaritaviveros8017 2 жыл бұрын

B2 was also shootdown in 1999 and crashed near near the border in Croatia near Spačvanske šume (forest). The f117 was also hit/ and over 20 nato aircraft were destroyed

@zekirijamustafa2528 2 жыл бұрын

Koliko samo lažeš B1 leta na 30 km visine

@jovicacekic8854 2 жыл бұрын

@@zekirijamustafa2528 Pojma nemas, bolje cuvaj ovce. Najveca visina ikad dostignuta je5 sa avionom u-2 od 25 km.

@Kamisama77 2 жыл бұрын

@@jovicacekic8854 Bingo!

@margaritaviveros8017 Жыл бұрын

@Timothy Corbitt B2 was definitely hit and brought down

@iljajekimov4997 2 жыл бұрын

Instant like. As always great show to watch. Thank you Sir.

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much, I appreciate the support!

@TheHepsterproduction 2 жыл бұрын

This is becoming my favourite channel. Keep it up, mate. Pozdrav iz Slo.

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Hvala puno!

@nightlifer1436 Жыл бұрын

Mirage 2000 which was shot down over Bosnia was a two seater, both pilots survived and were captured.

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

True but we don't have a two-seat version in DCS.

@figmo4227 2 жыл бұрын

This is very well researched, very good job!

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for your support!

@ivanstepanovic1327 2 жыл бұрын

The same tactics was used during the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia later; SAM crews would use their radars briefly in order to avoid being detected and targeted themselves. Guidance radar was used no more than a few seconds; on launch, then off, then on again seconds before the expected impact. Of course, the chances of scoring a hit that way are lower than having the radar on all the time, but it was safer for the SAMs.

@zebradgr8339 2 жыл бұрын

Know of one USAF F-16 that was involved in operations over Bosnia ... While returning to Aviano the plane experienced problems that forced the pilot to land on a small airfield in Slovenia (Portoroz), where it went out of runway and basically crash-landed.

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

I have to say I wasn't familiar with that incident. But I found some mention of it now. I guess it wasn't considered lost but they transported it away with a helicopter.

@zebradgr8339 2 жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 One can't know every little mishap .... This even is not something worth losing time over, I just know about this because it happened close to my hometown ... they disassembled it and loaded the parts on two low bed trailer trucks, on one the fuselage, on the other the tail section and wings. So yes, I guess it suffered some damage but was not lost (and it didn't go down due to combat damage).

@jovan7468 2 жыл бұрын

Imao sam tu srecu da gledam ovo obaranje uzivo. Ono cega se najvise sjecam je da su bile dvije detonacije u razmaku od par sekundi i nakon toga sam vidio avion u plamenu kako pada. Takodje, nekoliko stotina metara dalje od kuce u kojoj sam zivio je pao motor od Kub rakete koja je pogodila avion. Sam pogodak nisam vidio jer se avion u tom momentu nalazio iza oblaka.

@mino9308 2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@tmanda323 2 жыл бұрын

Ja sam imao srecu da vidim lika koji je stisnuo dugme ПУСК

@milostomic8539 2 жыл бұрын

NATO's aerial campaign in Bosnia helped Serbian military to study and predict NATO's pattern in case they attack Serbia & Montenegro (then called Federal Republic of Yugoslavia). The prediction was 95 % correct. The bombing campaign planned to last 5-7 days actually lasted 78 days and nights, during which NATO destroyed 4 % of our military capabilities. What NATO did manage to destroy was infrastructure and economy, around 90 brigdes, 20 factories, road network, railway network, trains, oil rafineries, and in some places hospitals, university buildings and post offices.

@mr.normalguy69 2 жыл бұрын

Sad to hear that, judging by your comment, I'm assuming it's going to take a long time to recover and improve the economy.

@rasosteva 2 жыл бұрын

@@mr.normalguy69 Worst thing that happen is that Nato used bombs with uranium. For that reason people in this part of Europe have high numbers of cancer deaths. Nato bomb us(Serbs) but all nations around us suffer from that. Even a lot of soldiers who came here as a peacekeepers died from cancer.

@milostomic8539 2 жыл бұрын

@@rasosteva Cluster bombs and bombs with expired date of use as well.

@Sandro-ym8sf 2 жыл бұрын

Nato agression

@geoeconomics5629 2 жыл бұрын

March 1941 Nazi Germany bombed Belgrade Serbia March 1999 USA empire bombed Belgrade Serbia

@ugarit5404 2 жыл бұрын

Sa-6 Kub is very good even today,and it has lots of potential for upgrades,NATO considers it a high level threat

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it seems that it can be dangerous if the crew knows what they are doing.

@richardvernon317 2 жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 Its a very good bit of kit, that's why the RAF still operate two real ones on their electronic warfare training range at Spadeadam.

@soniojercog6529 Жыл бұрын

@@richardvernon317 fffgb ...

@oldfashionedwrx3574 9 ай бұрын

Sa 11 and sa17 are upgrades of sa6/kub Sa27 latest one

@hanno-erdmanntietz8424 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. I watched parts 1 and 2 back to back.

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

@PappaBear_yt 2 жыл бұрын

Cool series, can't wait for the follow-up! 👍🏻😎🍻

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Much obliged! There will be a follow-up, maybe just not immediately after this one (if you mean the story).

@gunfighter90 2 жыл бұрын

I have been waiting for the Scoot O Grady story. Love the reenactment

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much, I appreciate your support.

@Boolag01 2 жыл бұрын

I’d love to see you focus on some of the combat seen by the Gazelle helicopter during the Yugoslav war.

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Gotta learn to fly helicopters first :)

@MlTGLIED 2 жыл бұрын

I watched both parts. Very nice done 👍🏼

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks!

@TheGranicd 2 жыл бұрын

There is info about why he had little time to react. SA6 has launch mode that turns missile guidance 4-5 sec after launch. And that is used when firing 2 missiles from same launcher so second one doesnt have isuess with smoke and debris from first one. Story goes that mode was used but on first missile. Works fine as long target is not doing anything drastic before tracking starts. And in this case it didnt. Also fun fact - ejection seats from M2000 ended being used on late former ambassador to Russia Miroslav Lazanski custom built SUV.

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

That does make sense because otherwise, he would have at least ten seconds to react. But as far as I can tell, warning that he was tracked came before that. I guess he should have reacted immediately. Didn't know about the use of the seat.

@TheGranicd 2 жыл бұрын

He talked about getting them for his militaristic Dodge. Regarding that mode quote "Cilj je uočen osmatračkim radarom RStON na 20 km daljine i predat nišanskom radaru, koji je na 18 km daljine ostvario zahvat cilja. Na 17 km daljine lansirane su 2 rakete sa intervalom lansiranja od 3 sekunde (režim II zahvat u vazduhu). Na 15 km daljine i oko 5,5 km visine dolazi do pogađanja aviona prvom raketom. Posledica pogađanja je bio da se letelica raspolovila, pa je tako druga lansirana raketa pogodila jedan od delova letelice."

@KristijanLazic 2 жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 Also, wing from the Mirage 2000 ended in Belgrade newspaper "Politika" head-office at that time. Don't know what happened with it later, but I remember that many journalists take a part of it as a souvenir.

@DiaconescuAlexandru2024 2 жыл бұрын

I really like this series. Also, it must have been very hard to get the sequence at 06:50 correctly, I don't know how you made a SAM launch a missle and make the missle go between two aircraft. The first shootdown must have taken some trying too, usually my pilot dies in DCS when I get shot down.

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Spoiler alert! If you are afraid of ruining the magic of these videos, don't read this 😁 This did take quite a few tries. First thing I realized is that SA-6 will ALWAYS hit an F-16 that's not pulling 9g and chaffing like crazy. So I added a third F-16 that was following the first two on a higher altitude, set it on 'don't react to threat' and made the first two F-16s invisible. The missile that passed between them (me and the leader) actually hit the third plane but that doesn't show. Second thing I realized is that F-16 pilot always dies when his airplane is hit by a missile. Any missile. Even when it's not a direct hit. I actually placed a MiG-21 behind me and just let it hit me with an R-60 (notorious for its small warhead) so I could do the ejection scene. Tried it for 5-6 times and the pilot always died. So finally, I had one track where the SA-6 hits the F-16. In another track, I just ejected out of a perfectly good F-16 but I previously set a trigger to explode it with a small size explosion as soon as it got damaged (which it was by the ejection). You need to do tricks like that all the time if you want to get an outcome that's anywhere near the historical one. If you ever watched any of the GR 'reenactments' you must have noticed that theirs are almost always completely different. That's why 😁

@DiaconescuAlexandru2024 2 жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 Daaaamn, that's a lot of effort ! I really like "having a peek around the curtains", especially when it's in a game that I also play. You must know DCS pretty well to do all these tricks, but damn do they work ! :)

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

@@DiaconescuAlexandru2024 There is a lot of trial and error. Sometimes, I find a great story, do the research and then realize that I just can't get the desired result. That's when thinking outside the box helps :)

@tomassiqueira5172 Жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 In Brazil, we would call that a gambiarra

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

@@tomassiqueira5172 Eu não sabia, obrigado 😉

@prezimeposlezime3923 2 жыл бұрын

Još jednom, svaka čast na još jednom videu. Ovo niko ne radi na ovaj način i želim ti puno uspeha zbog truda da ovo napraviš. Nadam se da će neko ovo prepoznati i dobro te nagraditi još nečim osim bravo i lajk.

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Zahvaljujem na podršci!

@leonardolealdelima3760 2 жыл бұрын

So grat series ! Could you make a video about the losses of B-52 in Operation Linebacker II, if it's not bothersome ??

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Your suggestion is possible to some extent. The problem is that neither B-52 nor the SAM batteries can be controlled by the player, they're AI only. That presents some challenges for making an interesting video but maybe I'll figure out how to solve them someday.

@nkrajisnik 2 жыл бұрын

Odlicna prezentacija dogadjaja iz ne tako daleke proslosti. Primetio sam da jako malo DCS simulacija ima na internetu sa avionom Mig-23 (bez obzira na verziju). Ne znam da li postoji samo MOD ili gotov model, i pretpostavljam da ga ljudi ne vole zbog gomile razloga (slab za dogfight, lose rakete za BVR...) pa ga izbegavaju. Posto vidim da se bavis simulacijama stvarnih dogadjaja, mislim da bi rekonstrukcija borbe izmedju kubanskih Mig 23ML i juznoafrickih Mirage F1 bila dobar video (njihova borba iznad Angole iz septembra 1987-e). Pozdrav, Nemanja.

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Ima dobar razlog za slabu zastupljenost MiG-a 23. U DCS-u postoji samo kao AI model, a i tu je dosta zastario (malo poligona). Dobra vijest je da ga Razbam razvija kao high fidelity modul. A španjolski Aerges razvija Mirage F1. Još se ne znaju datumi kada će ova dva modula biti dostupna ali kad budu, ova priča iz Angole je definitivno u planu. Hvala na komentaru i sugestiji!

@zagreb123123 2 жыл бұрын

Jedva cekam novi video da opet nesto naucim. Odlicno!

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Možda bude pismeni ispit 😉

@KF99 2 жыл бұрын

I saw the fin of this F-16 in Moscow Aviation Institute. There are also some parts of A-7 and F-111 shot down in Vietnam.

@pablopeter3564 2 жыл бұрын

Not only you give an even point of view of the aviation historical facts without any political opinion but the way you present the operations from inside and outside the cokcpit is great. By the way, I am a pilot and appreciate your great work. CONGRATULATIONS.

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes, the most difficult part is to stay away from political opinions 😁 I'm glad you appreciate this video.

@PoochAndBoo 2 жыл бұрын

The modeling of that SAM battery is pretty impressive.

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it is one of the models that was upgraded relatively recently. There still are some models in DCS that require an update. But, they are working on that I guess.

@Haneson 2 жыл бұрын

Love this series, I´ve always told myself I have to search and look how many aircrafts were downed in Yugoslavia (since we travel to Croatia and Slovenia quiet often)...I just would like to ask you - in some of the first videos there are subtitles in balkanian language so I would like to ask what country are you from? Because your videos are neutral (as it should be, and in news for example it is very rare);-)

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment! I am from Croatia and for quite some time, I stayed away from doing videos that deal with what happened here fearing that I couldn't be objective. Sure, there are viewers from a certain country in the neighborhood who still think I'm not, but YT is not a democracy and I can easily block them 😁😁😁 To sum up, it's not easy being objective. Even in other cases, there's always a side that I like more but I try not to show it.

@TrapNewsOfficial 2 жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 pohvale za objektivnost, jos nisam video da se neko na to zalio

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

@@TrapNewsOfficial Oni koji se žale to rade na tako bezobrazan način da in ih YT blokira automatski, ili ja to napravim.

@Lucifer-dz6eh 2 жыл бұрын

Former Yugoslavia in this period!

@raketize 2 жыл бұрын

i think the reason why captain scott didn't chaff because he was trying to locate direction of missile before doing maneuver and chaffing, by the time first missile pass he probably too late to react. also earlier lock may have given him impression that lock were not from sam

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

That sounds about right.

@touchofevil3608 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dude, nice shot, you rules my Friend !😎🤘

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

So glad you liked it!

@touchofevil3608 2 жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 Yep ! The only mistake is the squadron name: Champagne, not Champaigne.🍾😉

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

@@touchofevil3608 Thanks for pointing it out! Fortunately, it is only in the subtitles and can be corrected easily :)

@touchofevil3608 2 жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 Yep, very nice job, really !🤘🍾

@Alex_Blue_Note 9 ай бұрын

Thx for the french story. A/c were Mirage 2000D :)

@JorgeSanchez-oh4uy 11 ай бұрын

Hey Showtime112, I believe the O'Grady shootdown was the inspiration for the movie, Behind Enemy Lines. Of course the movie took some liberties in it's rendering of the real life events but was nonethess entertaining to watch.

@showtime112 11 ай бұрын

Yes, this movie is losely based on the O'Grady story. It's ok to watch but it shouldn't be taken as a documentary.

@jussihaila 2 жыл бұрын

Yess. Another Showtime112 video.

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment, it helps the channel a lot!

@SKiM1389SKiM 2 жыл бұрын

Napravi video i o rušenju B2 1999. Napadi na aerodrome u Tuzli i Tirani takođe. Авиация Югославии сорвала планы США использовать в боевых действиях в Косово ударные вертолеты "Апач" "МОСКВА, 4 апреля. /Корр. ИТАР-ТАСС Анатолий Юркин/. Авиация Югославии сорвала планы США использовать в боевых действиях в Косово ударные вертолеты "Апач". Об этом сообщает очередной номер информационно-аналитического журнала министерства обороны России "Зарубежное военное обозрение". В статье "Потери НАТО в войне с Югославией" под рубрикой "Гриф снят" сообщается, что "самая большая сенсация - это число натовских потерь в живой силе. В Югославии гибли не только натовские пилоты, но и спецназовцы, участвующие в поисково-спасательных операциях по обнаружению сбитых летчиков. Югославские ПВО уничтожили не менее пяти натовских вертолетов, в которых погибло около 100 военнослужащих альянса". Еще одной сенсацией можно назвать разгадку отказа американского командования от применения боевых вертолетов "Апач". "Причина этого решения - не технические неполадки вертолетов и недостаточная подготовка летных экипажей, о чем неоднократно заявляли представители блока, а налет 26 апреля прошлого года югославских истребителей "Галеб" на аэродром Ринас под столицей Албании Тираной, где базировались "Апачи". В тот день две группы этих легких машин уничтожили и повредили свыше 10 американских вертолетов,"- отмечается в журнале. Сходную операцию провели югославские ВВС 18 апреля против аэродрома в боснийской Тузле, превращенной в военную базу НАТО. Итог этого налета - полтора десятка выведенных из строя на земле натовских машин. "Несмотря на преобладание в группировке натовской авиации американских самолетов, не только их сбивали силы югославской ПВО. Сбитыми оказались 5 немецких "Торнадо", несколько английских "Харриеров", два французских "Миража", бельгийские, голландские, канадские самолеты. ВВС США потеряли в небе Югославии 7 июня свой стратегический бомбардировщик В-52 /буква латинская/, а 20 мая был сбит В-2А "Спирит",- отмечает "Зарубежное военное обозрение". (source: ITAR-TASS, April 4, 2000)

@Dog.soldier1950 2 жыл бұрын

Propaganda

@nekilik1895 2 жыл бұрын

Jedna zanimljivost. Miroslav Lazanski je išao na pregovore oko oslobađanja francuskih pilota. Hvala ti na objektivnosti

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Hvala na dodanim detaljima. Nisam našao tu informaciju ali zapravo, same pregovore nisam jako puno analizirao.

@boskovucinic7874 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's truth. There is even a video where he was recording Ratko Mladic while he was speking on phone that day, and Mladic told him in camera "He is going to sell this video to Germans". But Lazanski show that video just 4 years ago on tv of Rebublica Serbska.

@CrysisMan96 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing, it would be nice to see more of these scenes over Yugoslavia 1999. Amzing series. Love it.

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! It is on a 'to do' list for the future. Stay tuned 😁

@Alex_Blue_Note 9 ай бұрын

Excellent vidéo Don’t sorry if the aircraft are not exactly modelled. The story is pretty acurate as possible

@milanstankovic4149 2 жыл бұрын

Great video.Congrats on efford to make it. But i thing that Mirage was shoot down by Igla manpads not by Strela. Much more destructive and accurate with grater range.

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! It could have been an Igla. Strela was mentioned in some sources as the weapon. I should have probably mentioned that it was a 'probable' weapon.

@milanstankovic4149 2 жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 99 procent that was Igla.Mirage is very good and rigid jet fighter.Strela can only damaged it...Also there is a video clip about frensh recon Super Etendard that was damaged with Strela manpads,but it managed to land od frensh aircraft carrier.

@milanstankovic4149 2 жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h65yipqa07CZdqc.html There is a video about Super Etendard

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

@@milanstankovic4149 We have a Super Etendard mod sot it's theoretically possible. if I figure out how to do it, I might someday.

@ljubomirculibrk4097 2 жыл бұрын

It was combination, first launch of Strela for making Mirage use up its flares then Igla for the kill.

@ediko77 2 жыл бұрын

Many thanks to the author for staging an interesting film! ++++++++

@petargluic1564 2 жыл бұрын

. Molim prijevod na hrvatski

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your support, glad you liked it!

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Postoji hrvatski titl. Samo YT je nedavno nešto promijenio pa ga možda treba ručno prebaciti u postavkama. Kao prvi se izbacuje engleski titl u nekim slučajevima, bez obzira što možda imaš podešen jezik na hrvatski.

@ratagris21 2 жыл бұрын

Great presentation. While missile technology has evolved the older still threat. The looking for the missile is a Vietnam War era technique. I'm surprise he didn't use flares or chaff to help defeat it. If course seeing the missile helps more. ☯️♠️🎩🏁

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

As O'Grady describes it, everything happened very fast. Probably a lot faster than shown here. It might have something to do with the fact that this was a 'near-war' situation for the NATO pilots. Kinda like Southern and Northern Watch. They would sometimes get locked up but mostly it didn't end in a real shot. Or at least, not a guided one, Iraqis sometimes just shot missiles ballistic for effect. Still, he should have chaffed like crazy as soon as he realized he was being tracked.

@ratagris21 2 жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 exactly. The 555th is the squadron Capt now Brigadier General Stevie Ritchie was with when he became an Ace in Vietnam. They based out of Udorn, Thailand.

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

@@ratagris21 That's correct.

@cidpusa700 2 жыл бұрын

Impressive awesome war coverage on Bosnia

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment!

@kaynebartholomew2994 2 жыл бұрын

I like these. Maybe a Green Leader video of the Rhodesian Air Force raid on Chimoio or their ops supporting Ops Eland and Dingo.

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment! I need to do some research about the topic you mention.

@kaynebartholomew2994 2 жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rth8ftOmmL_cqWw.html There are 3 parts total but this is an interview with one of the pilots on that raid. This part has pretty much all of the radio transmissions.

@MisteriosGloriosos922 2 жыл бұрын

stunning video!!

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

And a pretty good comment too :) Thanks.

@rikrayarcade 2 жыл бұрын

I am amazed everytime by your level of research !!😃

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! This has really become a necessity with the number of people watching.

@fishkall9000 2 жыл бұрын

Old SA-6 does a good job i see... SA-7 too

@johnhill4717 2 жыл бұрын

Both of these aircraft had AN/ALQ-119 jamming pods on them. O-Grady FAILED to turn his on!

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

DCS doesn't have them yet so they are not represented. And what you're saying is possible.

@ThePizzaGoblin 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder what it felt like to be the random Serbian dude who shot a NATO plane down with a shoulder fired missile. Must have been a rush. His mates probably partied with him for days.

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

The guy was probably a local hero.

@veritasardens6547 2 жыл бұрын

0:38, is this not the same story on which the movie "Behind enemy lines" was based?

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, the movie was roughly based on the story of Scott O'Grady.

@malkuwon8691 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry we did not know F117 was invisible

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

It's not. F-117 is not called 'invisible' at all. That is just a very imprecise translation to some languages. 'Stealth' doesn't mean invisible.

@whiskeysixindigo7371 2 жыл бұрын

I remember hearing about this on the news back then

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting!

@mountainman42 2 жыл бұрын

I like it. Waiting for more.

@vojkankostic1869 Ай бұрын

French Mirage 2000 was shot down with SA-16 Igla, not with SA-7 Strela. Missiles were smuggled via Bulgaria in 1994. Man who fired the missile was my sargent in the army, 10 years later, I know that for a fact.

@showtime112 Ай бұрын

Thank you for the info. That makes this reenactment closer to the truth as there's no SA-7 Strela in DCS so it was represented by Igla.

@savamomirovic4439 2 жыл бұрын

Sadly there wasnt any air to air kills, great video man!

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment! There's more air-to-air kills left to do in some future videos.

@AlmirTaranis 2 жыл бұрын

Air to air kills with what, Savo? We both know that MiG 29 was no match or huge threat for NATO planes.

@savamomirovic4439 2 жыл бұрын

@@AlmirTaranis so? How MiG-25 shooted a F-18?

@r.yuksel9774 2 жыл бұрын

@@savamomirovic4439 That was a lucky kill in Gulf War, US AWACS thought the MiG was a friendly and didn't allow F/A-18 to shoot, otherwise the MiG would have been dead

@yveaux500 2 жыл бұрын

20:07 the guy stays pretty cool for someone who just shot down a plane...

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

It's a sign of a well disciplined soldier :)

@stolek6908 2 жыл бұрын

20:38 yea two crew mamber and bunch of French foreign legion mercineries. Im think 15-20 dead.

@radmiloristanovic5688 2 жыл бұрын

Svaka cast braco...

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Hvala na komentaru!

@CenturionDobrius 2 жыл бұрын

Nemam dovoljno reči hvale koliko je dobro urađen video. Ovo je kao da gledaš izveštaj iz Pentagona. Bilo bi dobro da se uradi neki vezan za rat na Kosovu, ovo je odličan način da se prava istina o Srbiji proširi na mlađi svet kako bi se promenilo mišljenje o nama kao lošim momcima i krivcima za svo zlo u svetu.

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Hvala na pozitivnom komentaru.Ima dosta komentara sličnih ovome sa srpske strane. Ali dosta je zanimljivo da ih ima nemali broj dijametralno suprotnih. Mnogi ovo vide kao anti-srpsku propagandu i nekakvu fašističku urotu. Ti komentari se ne vide jer koriste rječnik i ton takav da ih YT najčešće odmah automatski cenzirira. Preostale ja ručno blokiram jer nemam tolerancije za one koji nastupaju u nekom svađalačkom i uvredljivom tonu. Ovo govorim prvenstveno zato da naglastim da štogod da netko radi, ljudi će ga doživljavati na sto raznih načina. Poanta kanala zapravo i nije da se bavi temama tipa tko je loš a tko je dobar. Prvenstveno je namijenjen ljubiteljima vojne avijacije a "politika" je tu samo zato da se da nekakav kontekst. Bit će obrađivanja i rata iz 1999. u budućnosti. Bilo je tu dosta zanimljivih događanja koji zaslužuju pažnju.

@CenturionDobrius 2 жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 pazi da ti kažem nešto, ja sam rastao u SFRJ, i tvrdim ti, da nisu postojali ljudi na čelu naših država pomognuti strancima, rata ne bi ni bilo, a danas bismo bili jači od Italije. Nažalost i danas-dan mediji s vremena na vreme po zadatku, stalno potpaljuju i izmišljaju mržnju da bi nas kao kolonije zapadnih zemalja držali na uzici, i konstantno slabili - i to je poenta : da smo siromašni, u dugovima, i da nam se mladost odseljava i beži, dok za 50-tak godina i vi braća Hrvati i mi Srbi, ali i ostali prosto ne nestanemo, a ove krajeve nasele neki drugi.

@sash91216 2 жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 da li planiras ubaciti i neka obaranja koja nisu potvrdjena i ostala su na nivou prica ili ces samo obraditi obaranja f-117 i f-16?

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

@@sash91216 Fokusirat ću se na potvrđena.

@ilmawarin5520 2 жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 Sam video jest neutralan, ali poprično je očito da u publici dominira jedna strana. Da se primjetit da i ti osobno si biased. Vidi se u pojedinim komentarima, a čini se i kod cenzuriranja komentara s obzirom da su 99% pro-srpski. Just saying.

@ugarit5404 2 жыл бұрын

Capt. O Grady was a chad

@milans.637 2 жыл бұрын

Uradi sledeci video kad je srusen B2 Spirit of Missoury .

@jayjay53313 2 жыл бұрын

To be exact, US aircraft waypoint plotters are bunch of lazies that they don't change new waypoint route for aircraft on patrol. Serbs identified and marked US standard fixed waypoints placing spotters, radars, SAM/AAA along the route waiting for opportunity to down US aircraft. Russian & Chinese analyst and experts were there too conducting avionics research on US aircraft especially stealth plane. That's how US lost F-16 & F-117

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it might be a challenge of those near-war situation. You can easily get lulled into a false sense of comfort. But there's even worse. I recently listened to a very interesting episode of a podcast called 10 Percent True, don't know if you are familiar with it. A guest was an F-111 pilot who participated in operation Eldorado Canyon. They were ordered to attack the target one by one from exactly the same direction. That's why one F-111 was shot down and the crew died.

@jayjay53313 2 жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 thanks for the info. Flying from same direction again & again allowed enemy GCI & anti-air emplacement to get the practice they need to shoot the F-111 down. Also, thanks to US waypoint plotters, the salvaged F-117 along with multiple detection avionics conducted on F-117 & B-2 flying over Serbia gave Russia & China the opportunity to learn, obtain & reverse engineer US stealth technology few years later. On the inside, Russia & China probably do thank US for that.

@goranjovanovic2830 2 жыл бұрын

Dobar snimak.

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Hvala na komentaru.

@ricardocorbie6803 2 жыл бұрын

I served during this war!! I was stationed in a camp called Dobol after hostilities, we were searching for war criminals! Beautiful country, devastated by war!!

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your experience.

@arisdelis1 2 жыл бұрын

tell us more...were you searching for Llegia and Arkan? Thank you for your service..

@nedbogdanovic3112 2 жыл бұрын

And how many war criminals you managed to catch..??

@ricardocorbie6803 2 жыл бұрын

@@nedbogdanovic3112 soo are you trying to be Humorous? I didn’t catch or capture anyone, we ( US Army) were in support of the UN tribunals hunting for responsible individuals who committed war atrocities!! Have yourself a great evening!!

@augustsenoa2762 2 жыл бұрын

@@ricardocorbie6803 Could you buy me like a gift COCKPIT LEATHER JACKET.THAT,S MY DREAM.I,M 192CM.WITH THOSE AMBLEMS ON CHEST AND SLEEVS.PS.THANKS FORWARD.

@kirksdva8310 2 жыл бұрын

F16 Old tehnologie even cub from Fifties is being treated for him

@barriewright2857 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant.

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot!

@stuartbega7097 2 жыл бұрын

Baked out !!!👽

@sellamibenamorkhaled1315 2 жыл бұрын

لماذا اف 16 من افضل ماهو موجود على الساحة الدولية للدفاع . عاش جيشنا الوطني العظيم حصنا منيعا الوطن

@chieftain8638 2 жыл бұрын

Pozzz ovaj teren gdje je je li ovo stvarno balkan ili samo mapa

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Nije. To je mapa Kavkaza, konkretno Gruzija. Osim prve scene koja je snimljena na mapi Sirije.

@sohrabroozbahani4700 2 жыл бұрын

So this was where the behind enemy lines story came from...

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, that is the story. I didn't focus too much on O'Grady's survival on the ground though. It's not what DCS is good for :)

@vanjaprascevic6595 2 жыл бұрын

You do now that Sa-7 (Strela-2) can attack jet s from the rear hemisphere ?

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Strela is not available in DCS. This is actually Igla. Both the missile and the Mirage are AI controlled here and emulating a rear aspect shot is very hard to do.

@jerrymail 10 ай бұрын

I remember the destruction of the Mirage 2000. Unfortunately, this war was so poorly explained in the French media that I never understood anything. I very quickly stopped being interested in it.

@showtime112 10 ай бұрын

It's actually quite simple

@jerrymail 10 ай бұрын

@@showtime112 Certainly, but the French TV broadcasts were confusing and unclear. And at this time, I was 20... I spent more time with my friends than watching Bosnia war on TV 😁

@showtime112 10 ай бұрын

@@jerrymail That's very unusual for a 20 year old 😁

@zeljkojovic3590 2 жыл бұрын

I was a member of 155 brigade

@nemanjadespotovic771 2 жыл бұрын

My friend was there,he was in search for f16 enemy pilot, he has also one small part (bearing)of crashed f16 plane

@izvidjac9275 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. I’m really happy to see them go down

@junak8823 2 жыл бұрын

Nice video. What about doing Serbian losses, would be interesting. And also maybe losses in Iraq.

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Serbs lost those four attack aircraft in 1994. This will probably be reenacted someday. Plus in 1999. there were several MiG-29s shot down. One of those shootdowns was covered on the channel. I'll do some more too. As for Iraq, you mean the Coalition losses?

@junak8823 2 жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 Yes, coalition losses

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

@@junak8823 Perhaps, someday.

@pbm767 Жыл бұрын

The one which Indian Airforce shot down over Pakistan occupied Kashmir was less dramatic than this but more daring

@sabozlaja 2 жыл бұрын

Igla...ne strela

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

To je moguće.

@azxtra8381 Жыл бұрын

Most of these videos (Vietname era to present) demonstrate many losses were due to pilots making bad defensive decisions. I can't believe he did not use chaff. Overconfidence and stupidity. Like the Harriers that made some bombing runs but never ejected flares after releasing their bombs after already having had shoulder-fired missiles fired at them once already. It blows the mind.

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Yes, sometimes the pilot under attack didn't necessarily do everything perfectly. Scott O'Grady did practically nothing. But there are so many factors such as being in a semi-war situation or having very little flares in your dispenser.

@Lucas-nu4du Жыл бұрын

I thought the most famous shotdown was the F-117

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Not over Bosnia.

@brankonisevic1991 Жыл бұрын

There Is a book about kub ITS called kub sky shield From ground

@jdsaldivar2109 2 жыл бұрын

82ND AIRBORNE Outstanding...

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment, glad you liked it!

@kocovgoce 2 жыл бұрын

интересен пристап на користење на куб -м го уклучваш радарот на неколку секунди пред со цел ракета да доби точна кориднација.Ме зачуди и ефикасноста на стрела -2м

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Makes you wonder why everybody didn't use that mode with the Kub. The missile that hit the Mirage could have been a Strela according to some sources. Perhaps it was some more advanced model.

@kocovgoce 2 жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 mozebi igla sepak strela 2m i vo vojnata vo jemen vo 2015 hutite soborija miraz 2000

@rpmusic6402 2 жыл бұрын

What more if they face Russian S-400/500?

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

It is a matter of awareness and readiness. Here, they were not ready but predictable.

@gentmeshi5664 2 жыл бұрын

I like to see those videos in balkan. Respect for all 🇦🇱🇽🇰

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting!

@domovinivjerni 2 жыл бұрын

Mislim da sam opet pogodio sa thumbnailom...

@stolek6908 2 жыл бұрын

Kad dođu rafali dođi opet pa spamuj kao indijci BEST CROATIA AVIONITICS BALBALBLA

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Izgleda da jesi. Odsad ti ih svaki put šaljem na provjeru 😁

@domovinivjerni 2 жыл бұрын

@@stolek6908 nisam pitao i nauči engleski

@stolek6908 2 жыл бұрын

Uči svapski treba za timarenja

@simulationsrealconflicts1586 2 жыл бұрын

And part 3?

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Only other NATO aircraft lost in the period and in that particular conflict were lost to technical failures. There was also a drone shot down I think. That wouldn't make much of a video.

@dimitrijestevanovic4851 Жыл бұрын

Mirage 2000 was actually struck by Igla and not Strela

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Possible, sources are not very detailed.

@petar6295 2 жыл бұрын

2:34 Croatia also haved fighter aircraft

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

That refers to the three sides in Bosnia.

@killingfields1424 Жыл бұрын

And one Night Hawk, all by SAMs

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Not over Bosnia. The F-117 and one F-16 were downed in 1999 over what was then called Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.

@milangakovic3616 2 жыл бұрын

Ha, ha what about 57 plus 1 B52?

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

@abhishekgiri1201 2 жыл бұрын

Why does this look like the akash missile (Sam) from India

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Well, SA-6 Kub is much older than Akash.

@CrazyRussianPilot 2 жыл бұрын

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@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting!

@CrazyRussianPilot 2 жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 Grand Mercy for subscrib 👍👍👍👍

@ilvaporizzatore 2 жыл бұрын

Don't you miss the F117 downing? EDIT: It was in Kosovo.

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

That's Allied Force from 1999. This video (and the previous one) focuses on the Bosnian conflict which ended three years before.

@Hangman84848 2 жыл бұрын

Nope, it was downed little bit farther to the north, some 500km to be precise in the village Budjanovci.

@kirksdva8310 2 жыл бұрын

First time American aircraft comming in reel fight weath reel anti-aircraft missile and result is good . Not only in Desert . But this aircraft missile is from 70 , what about new

@simulationsrealconflicts1586 2 жыл бұрын

What about the F-117 shot down by the Serbs?

@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын

Different conflict. A topic for some other video.