12v Cummins P-Pump Governor Springs & Fuel Plate Mod = POWER!

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6 жыл бұрын

We cold start this high mile 5.9 Cummins 12v before it donates its P7100 P-Pump for the Cummins Sliverado! We show you how to upgrade the governor springs to get more power.
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@desmondmurray5004 6 жыл бұрын

Watching this with captions, when the cummins started, it said [music] I agree

@bennett12349 6 жыл бұрын

Desmond Murray I was thinking the same thing!

@robertgemski7728 5 жыл бұрын

Certainly music to my ears!!

@coasmechteranic 5 жыл бұрын

Well, it’s not “wrong.”

@Ybsjek 5 жыл бұрын

😂

@hawkie333 4 жыл бұрын

Love watching Rich play Maestro! You can tell that it’s one of his favorite things....

@joshuaodowd9107 6 жыл бұрын

Hearing a Cummins fire is pure music to my ears love it

@Project10sec 6 жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed the vid. Great job Rich. 28min vid took me 2hrs to watch. Kids yelling, wife husstling me. Had to hide in the bathroom for a while, got busted eventually. had to find a new hiding spot but finished the vid. thanks

@letsgobrandon8375 5 жыл бұрын

The life of a DAD!!!! The bathroom doesn't work for me anymore.

@paullogieri248 5 жыл бұрын

It's like being pecked to death by a duck.

@edwardbaker5373 4 жыл бұрын

Lol.

@doomflatus7780 4 жыл бұрын

The I’m Project10sec

@cowboy41231 4 жыл бұрын

Bob Marley “love” for the pump! Lol

@jacklong2399 6 жыл бұрын

Of course it runs its a 12v

@NaoPb 6 жыл бұрын

Good to hear you're not throwing it away. Running and starting like that after 1 million kilometers is pretty impressive, at least to me. If you were planning on throwing it out, I'd like to have it in my living room and start it every once in a while for that nice diesel exhaust smell, and to hear the lovely sound of these engines running.

@eli72481 6 жыл бұрын

Didn't watch to the end of the video did ya?

@NaoPb 6 жыл бұрын

Eli: I was going to, but got distracted and then forgot about it. Sorry.

@eli72481 6 жыл бұрын

Don't gotta apologize man, wasn't trying to be a dick or anything. Didn't mean for it to come off like that, was just jokin round.

@BertBuild Жыл бұрын

I agree every person in the world should have a diesel on a stand ion the living room to start and smell once in a while, hahahaha

@pantherplatform 10 ай бұрын

I love that smell

@theglitch99 Жыл бұрын

Just got my 1st 24v cummins on an 04 Ram, wish i wasn't late to the game on these engines! Truly enjoy them!

@hotrodpetesgarage699 6 жыл бұрын

I'm not a diesel guy, so this was interesting to me. Sometimes, the camera moved too much and I couldn't follow things, and, yes, the image was too dark as well at times to see what you were talking about. But, I got a little bit of an idea how these Cummins engines are put together and operate, and being a gear head, that was interesting to me. Thanks..

@Lifeof728 6 жыл бұрын

Same

@rustyshackleford8999 5 жыл бұрын

"Took the fan off so I don't do anything stupid." Lol good man

@wtfman5313 6 жыл бұрын

Rich, I wish I had just a thimble full of your diesel knowledge. Really good P-pump mod info. Thanks man.

@TheRustiestShackleford 6 жыл бұрын

Wrench Spinner everything he knows is easily learnt on the internet. It doesn't take rocket appliances.

@molivroman9806 2 жыл бұрын

Rich, just started last week watching all your vids. can't get enough of them. You got a great profession and good at it.

@darius9521 6 жыл бұрын

You're the dirtiest, greasiest car youtuber there is! Love all the content, from quattro to cummins. Keep it up!

@jamesloganimoce3196 4 жыл бұрын

Trues up brother

@lucifermorningstar6126 5 жыл бұрын

16:50 ya you spun that pump off camera because it's a MFer. (1996 12v 6spd owner. I make the "power" lol 606 1402) been there done that. My rack got stuck 6 years ago and had to go through this. Luckily I WAS (currently a pilot) a diesel mechanic and knew people at industrial injection I got a dragonfly for 800 bucks. I would've never played with my pump for that reason but these videos you have are spot on. Love your content. I was never in the shops "pump room" I was in the "injector room" and "the shop". Personally I drive a 12v because obvious reasons power alone. But I love the simplicity of the 24v when it comes to timing. I wish the 12v had the key on the pump shaft STOCK. It would've made my life easier back under the hood while I was earning a living. But as you said it was a widely used engine but they made our automotive version so different they could've done that too. If we go on that thought process we should've had the marine pistons too. Just saying. Like I said. Love the content. I'm subscribed! Howdy from the heart of Texas!

@fcbrants 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you SO much for sharing this video!! I have a '97 6CTA 8.3 with a P-Pump in a 265,000 mile 40' Monaco RV that can't get out of its own way. I was considering an engine swap for something newer, but I'm now inspired to spend the $$ on this engine & bring it back to life.

@pacemetalfab 6 жыл бұрын

At 19:28, the most important part of your video. I bought a take out engine that came out of a FL70 Freightliner. The PPump was completely different than what Dodge used. It was a very $$$ lesson. I love your videos. You are a great teacher/instructor's. I have a rebuilt P7100 pump too. 😀

@alskdjfhg3712 6 жыл бұрын

When that started up on the pallet, it sounded awsome.

@Unarmed922 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent, subscribed because of this video, love the commentary. step-dad picked up a p-pump recently and we will be doing the recommended mods, our mechanic down the road also swears by them.

@hamop3 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome Video. Always keep one chuckling. Great Job DEBOSS.

@thesunflowchannel1995 5 жыл бұрын

I watched this a year ago and 19 now and own my first 12 valve. Love it just ordered airdog fuel separator, 3 gague pillar, and kdp fix as a start. Next will be 150hp injectors and 4 inch turbo back exhaust

@LightWaIker 4 жыл бұрын

How'd it turn out?

@articfever3616 4 жыл бұрын

update

@zachsteele6964 4 жыл бұрын

We need an update bro

@wellshodgarage2752 3 жыл бұрын

Yes we need to know

@TheMrkaninja 3 жыл бұрын

Update, we want to know how you are doing with your 12 valve? @David Does

@akman1931 4 жыл бұрын

What a time to be alive.

@1juggernaught 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome vids, always learning something new, what to do and what not to do!

@Grantelb4rt 5 жыл бұрын

I am from Germany and my Dad owned a 4BT Case 5120 and after that a 6BT MX120.. Turned up the Pump on the 6BT and it made about 130HP on the PTO dyno. Sounds great, huge Torque, good power, super reliable and crazy simple. Sold both Tractors at about 9000 working hours with nothing else then Service done to the engines

@StreetTruckGarage 2 жыл бұрын

Got my first 12v recently too, thanks for all the great information.

@calibdovah1962 Жыл бұрын

Same. Let the power begin😁

@fmagalhaes1521 3 жыл бұрын

@DeBoss Garage. I love your videos.!, I am learning a whole lot about cummins diesels and how wrench them.

@Loganlanfear21 6 жыл бұрын

Its got 615,000 miles on it for anyone wondering...

@rustybrowneye 6 жыл бұрын

Logan Lanfear i was wondering

@1johnnygunn 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah x's 0.6 km-miles

@thesunflowchannel1995 5 жыл бұрын

@@1johnnygunn 0.615*

@HJZ75driver 5 жыл бұрын

Only for the ones that dont believe in the metric system

@bovellois 5 жыл бұрын

So about half life

@longnightdiesel12valves7 6 жыл бұрын

Also awesome video sir gotta be my favorite channels and of course love all the 12 valve content !!

@bovellois 5 жыл бұрын

I put a number 8 plate in my 97 too. Good compromise. Significant power increase without killing the transmission. Torque was replaced but transmission is still original at 440k km.

@brentr9702 6 жыл бұрын

Awsome video as always!!!

@SFFRACING 2 жыл бұрын

hell yeah thanks man i just picked up a bus with a p pump 12v im gonna pump it up a little with these tricks!

@wellshodgarage2752 7 ай бұрын

I had an extra shim in my 98 auto pump the other day. And i pulled all the springs. When i put em back i didnt think it would clear when turning over. Anyways im glad i grabbed a smaller magnet and got that last piece out. Probably saved me alot of trouble

@chrismartin6544 5 жыл бұрын

Love that turbo whine sounds just like the 2 1/2 trucks we had as ammo carriers in the US Army Artillery

@wvboy0311 4 жыл бұрын

Some of the duece and 1/2 ive been around had cummins in them i think sounded like it anyway

@runthatreadeth 4 жыл бұрын

I ❤️ my 12 Valve Thanks for the video!

@The4x4manonbroke 3 жыл бұрын

Loctite high strength sleeve retaining compound works like a champ, I use it on the ISX 15L single cam engines, they too have a tapers press fit cam gear

@TeeBagMaster19 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, I wish I lived closer to you! Hard to find GOOD/HONEST mechanics these days.

@scottdrenske830 6 жыл бұрын

Great video very helpful. Thanks have enjoyed it.

@funkinflugen 6 жыл бұрын

I read through the comments and found you used 3200 RPM springs...but I missed what FUEL PLATE you went with? FOUND IT!!! 21:06 "#8 fuel plate".......you made such a short reference to it, it was hard to find. Good video for overall procedure though, thanks!

@jamesloganimoce3196 4 жыл бұрын

Great videos brother better than what i find on youtube so far .. standardized and detail mechanical work even and amature like myself can understand Great mechanic and youtuber! Keep it up brother love from beautiful fiji islands🌴🌞🌊🐳⛅🌄🌅

@malcolmyoung7866 6 жыл бұрын

This is why Deboss is one of the best...

@chickmagpunk 6 жыл бұрын

Love the vid mate!

@Fosh51 4 жыл бұрын

4:00 "IT'S ALIVE!!!!!" Long live the 12 valve Cummins turbo diesels!!!!!

@jaymckean3274 4 жыл бұрын

Great video sir. There are multiple LOL's and ROFL. 😆🤣 It's always enjoyable to watch DeBoss Garage.

@permafriedmike8193 4 жыл бұрын

Yes 😂😂😂😂 bobbing your head to an idle are we related in some way

@AdamQuiklikit 6 жыл бұрын

Don’t sand the tapered shaft! They need to be polished. Sanding reduces the contact area whereas polished maximizes contact area. I have had success both dry and with the green loctite like they recommend with the larger engine cam gears

@collinwalker 6 жыл бұрын

Wow this man knows what he’s doing

@thegooniverse495 5 жыл бұрын

That cap looked like a Canadian in South Park hahahaha

@mareknosek996 4 жыл бұрын

Great video !

@vendetta1306 4 жыл бұрын

Going to look at a 96 12 Valve this weekend!

@lazowelding 6 жыл бұрын

I just bought a Cummins p pump out of school bus that someone junked and it runs just like yours..best $220 dollars i ever spent

@alanack67 6 жыл бұрын

lazowelding the bus P-Pumps are worthless

@lazowelding 6 жыл бұрын

I never knew that why are they?I think I'm going to sell the engine now that I found this out

@alanack67 6 жыл бұрын

lazowelding you just can't get the power out of them like you can with the pumps in the Dodge trucks.

@jasontruman1215 6 жыл бұрын

lazowelding they are far from worthless!!!!!!! They just can’t be made to make huge power like the truck motors the pump doesn’t push the same amount of fuel. You can run it as is just fine and even turn it up a bit.... if you want 500+ hp just slap a p7100 off a dodge pickup on it and go to town.

@lazowelding 6 жыл бұрын

The engine is 175hp rated on side of tag but I never knew that p pumps where that different in flow..I'll keep that in mind

@michaelbenoit248 3 жыл бұрын

Got a 7.3 idi & that Cummins sounds freakin awesome! Although the idi’s are cheaper to fix by like 1/2.

@johnorange963 3 жыл бұрын

Love the subtitles that say music when it's running

@duffman1241 5 жыл бұрын

12 valves are the best addiction I have!!!

@Dibbs18 6 жыл бұрын

Nice video!

@KYKAYAKER274ey1 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome job

@jasontruman1215 6 жыл бұрын

The early 12v with the rotary pump benefits greatly from a governer spring as well!!!! Same with a fuel pin (their version of a fuel plate).

@96blackjacket 3 жыл бұрын

“At least I’m not cooking car parts in the oven or the dishwasher ‘today’ “ lol that implies you’ve done it before and will do it again and that’s just hilarious

@carmonperrin3473 3 жыл бұрын

🤣 Haven't we all done that at some point

@burningdinosaurs 6 жыл бұрын

Fuel plate, timing, increases supply pressure - nothing did squat until I swapped gov springs. I've got a video of it on the dyno to prove it. Never did get a final HP since it broke my dyno after changing the gov springs. Thanks for the video and good explanation of how to do it!

@austin6174 6 жыл бұрын

burningdinosaurs how did it effect mileage if you don’t mind me asking :)?

@burningdinosaurs 6 жыл бұрын

That I don't know. It's a swap into an old squarebody chevy, so I don't have a baseline nor have I driven enough yet to know what it's getting now. But if you're worried about mileage, tuning the AFC will be key.

@thankfullife7968 6 жыл бұрын

When I installed the 3K Springs I didn’t notice that much difference and granted I didn’t turn/ tighten springs down very much either plus I’m not running a fuel plate.

@tomdamon7208 5 жыл бұрын

This is the most informative vid I have ever seen . thank you . What auto trans bolts up ?

@zero_to_1000 5 жыл бұрын

That was awesome when it started up.

@KenMrKLC 6 жыл бұрын

sounds good, nice

@ml2trick 6 жыл бұрын

Sweet Video.........Good Sunday morning Watch.

@dallasattridge1668 3 жыл бұрын

I love this channel

@rymod2304 6 жыл бұрын

Quality content, as always 👍 #DebossGarage - ‘97 12 Valve owner

@beeroquoisnation 5 жыл бұрын

I was forced to leave my 98 12v out in the ND patch when I stroked out there, along with 20 years of tools. My fuel plate was the stock profile, but trimmed back a 1/4 inch. She wasn't an aggressive smoker, and spooled up well with the scaler ring taken out of the whistle, and the star wheel turned up. Still got the same mileage 17 loaded or empty. It had 411 ratio. Great Video gear head, keep 'em cummins. :P

@skinanbonesOG 6 жыл бұрын

hood for sale? i think you meant to say toboggan......lol

@jasontruman1215 6 жыл бұрын

Craig Thompson I’ve used a second gen hood as one before!!!! They work amazing, the grill frame makes a great hand hold.

@deecotton5435 5 жыл бұрын

Deffently the best thing I've found to pull in the snow. With all the curves in the hood it glide's over the snow great.

@matt72991 6 жыл бұрын

You should look into getting an AFC Live!!! adjust your fueling in the cab!!

@stevehardeman7209 2 жыл бұрын

Music to my ears !!!

@tractorman2131 5 жыл бұрын

I got a 12 valve it was a beautiful engine it had 300 k it didn't burn or use oil I used rottella 15_40 then I cheaped out and bought Canadian tire oil and runnened my engine it burns oil now and smokes but works perfect I put the rotella back in but to little to late don't cheap out when u do your oil change also got a 2002 6spd high output for sale

@WS-gw5ms 6 жыл бұрын

Vpp44 for life (or 80k whichever comes first)

@695noah 3 жыл бұрын

vp44 is dog shit

@nickr1616 6 жыл бұрын

Looks like you guys need to take a road trip here to Fairbanks, Alaska and come do some ice racing with the Quatro 😁😉😉

@alanack67 6 жыл бұрын

It's a good idea to change the lock washer on the pump shaft. I just clean it with long q tips and diaelectric contact cleaner, seems to work better than brake clean

@bahopik 6 жыл бұрын

"oil doesn't look that black" of course! It was leaking out before it could pick up any carbon)) was it really too much blow by for a Cummins?

@jonfar5995 6 ай бұрын

about The timing gear install. it's not the oil, it is the debris on the taper. clean gear and shaft with lint-free cloth, install pump, pull gear forward, loose on shaft, reclean feel free to use 15w40 to flush it out if you would like. but a spray of WD-40 is ez. the lint from the Q-tip or cotton towel is why the gear came loose. flush with 15w40, PB,wd-40,brake parts just clean it before you put the nut on. good luck

@redneckshadetreeoffroad9038 5 жыл бұрын

Love these videos lol

@adventurousairman 6 жыл бұрын

Good video thanks, but I disagree on the blow by, it wasn't bad at all, when the cap dances its still good, it had several thousand miles left on it, otherwise it wouldn't have started that well. Just saying...12 valves got to love em

@scooter1391 5 жыл бұрын

love the vid the best engine ever made I own 5 p pump engines

@manowaari 5 жыл бұрын

I belive that is actually a Bosch P7100 pump. Very good pump, used also other engines like Scania.

@markphillips6406 6 жыл бұрын

12v rebuilds 👍

@morgansword 5 жыл бұрын

Got a friend who has a CNC machine, with the cummins engine bolt pattern and he makes the plates for all types of transmissions or flex couplers. He is busy enough that he taught his wife how to run the CNC machine to make adapters for just about everything imaginable

@nathanharland3375 6 жыл бұрын

Your the reason why I haven’t turbo-ed my 6.0 ls, the 12v is so dang simple but so expensive around me

@neilh6217 5 ай бұрын

okay okay eh You sold me on choosing the 98 extra cab 4x4 12v 2500 w NV4500 lol😎

@XxbackflipzX 6 жыл бұрын

Yess id like to see a rebuild

@pantherplatform 10 ай бұрын

When you fired it up i got tears in my eyes.

@bradleymorgan8223 5 жыл бұрын

This is a thing of beauty, 650k miles like it ain't nothing

@longnightdiesel12valves7 6 жыл бұрын

Spraying break clean in timing case hole works great to clean shaft and gear hole do it all the time .

@datsunz152 6 жыл бұрын

Long night diesel 12valves thats also gonna strip off all the oil keeping it rust free

@longnightdiesel12valves7 6 жыл бұрын

datsunz1 that’s the point to remove all the oil so gear won’t slip on the shaft before it’s completely torqued down or after , being its a tapper fit once truck runs it will have oil on it again no worries there .

@datsunz152 6 жыл бұрын

Long night diesel 12valves ah okay that makes sense, i stand corrected m8y

@Hboysoutdoors 4 жыл бұрын

full tear down start to finish!!!!

@lbj808 3 жыл бұрын

I am just in AWE!!..motor starts and runs right there on the ground!!..😳😳...never seen that before!!..🤙🏽

@joemullinax9489 Жыл бұрын

Just done this myself.

@krazziee2000 5 жыл бұрын

thanks for the video,, cool ..

@thatgraysuburban 4 жыл бұрын

I might have to do this to my 96 Cummins

@jimkillen1065 4 жыл бұрын

I been down this road . Bought the truck a 95 with 40 k miles on it . Ran ok mileage poor 16 or so mpg ..i tried every thing and finally i bought the timing tools from Snap on . I think the timing which is in mm of lift at tdc wound up at 17 deg . Mileage is now 21 or 22 straighr highway at 65 miles hour . Now i have the 3 k governor kit and a 10 fuel plate . I bought a set of 215 injectors from Piers in Canada. It came with 2 sets of washers . Like a dumb ass i used the thicker washes and motor soundes odd . Probably because the spray was not correct in the bowl . I swapped out to the thinner washers and runs good sounds good crisp . Piers told me once if the motor cold want rev up it needs more timing. He is a very smsrt guy too . Now my truck has 200 or so k miles on it very clean Texas truck no dents ect . It has plenty of power i say 300 ish with maybe 600 tq . Just right .

@boostaddict_ 3 жыл бұрын

I think I'm gonna acquire a whole 2nd gen with a P pump 12v for $2k next year. It's got 400k km on it. Can't wait to toss that into a D150 lol. Compound turbos, mild injectors, just aim for a really smooth & reliable 500hp.