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@WINCHOism2 жыл бұрын
@@degeneresqueen6084 This is the role play first
@RL-go2lp2 жыл бұрын
Surf shark is gay
@thethinkingcatakaneonormie35272 жыл бұрын
It's pretty amazing the mom replacement Vaush lives with is his "Girlfriend" and we've seen his member on stream and it's up there with Donald trump in size.
@qualivia2 жыл бұрын
I have to say though is using a VPNs on piratebay even do anything? That's the only reason I use VPNs and I don't even know if it does anything.
@Siksuki2 жыл бұрын
@@qualivia it stops your internet provider finding out about you torrenting stuff, so yeah.
@alexithyme35112 жыл бұрын
The tragedy of two boys who yearn for each other's embrace, but neither willing to submit to be the bottom
@BustDaNinja2 жыл бұрын
Now THIS is the smartest comment here.
@angusmarch10662 жыл бұрын
Based
@immanuelcunt72962 жыл бұрын
Gæ
@shotinthedark902 жыл бұрын
@Estrogen Fury Does BreadTube know of no other way to categorize its opposition than by calling all of them "reactionary"? Gawd I'm tired of that word.
@shotinthedark902 жыл бұрын
@Estrogen Fury Fair enough. And I agree about bread tube.
@lincolnbio67682 жыл бұрын
Destiny: "We only need one, we're good" August: *immediately plays the second clip*
@Gametastica2 жыл бұрын
August knows what the people want
@Dark_Tesla2 жыл бұрын
August is goated no wonder Jada cheated on will with him.
@charlesblasini21342 жыл бұрын
August: "I am a generous god"
@mizel1012 жыл бұрын
The editor has the final word in any foght
@MrZakXero2 жыл бұрын
August is a champ no doubt lol he knows what we want
@MrJBlich2 жыл бұрын
I’m ready for Destiny’s career as an audio book narrator. What a silky smooth orator.
@PongoDaMan2 жыл бұрын
His oratory skills know no bounds 😉
@BadtripMedia2 жыл бұрын
Once he gets banned off KZfaq he might kekw
@emperortgp24242 жыл бұрын
he's got those oral skills
@TonyStark-tj6il2 жыл бұрын
Orator
@SpecterSeventy22 жыл бұрын
Meh, his voice is a little nasally. 😉
@smiff5132 жыл бұрын
100-1 odds on vonch even addressing this slightly more then “destiny viewer wrote some obsessive rant mischaracterising me”
@t-poison17312 жыл бұрын
Funny thing it wasn't Destiny who wrote this
@sp4wn5152 жыл бұрын
How much are we betting? Considering Destiny didn't even write it, I'll take those odds.
@Achillusgaming2 жыл бұрын
Yeah he is too deep in his own head now. He can no longer differentiate between legitimate and illegitimate attacks, because he receives so many, and he is too biased and arrogant to sift through them to find the legitimate ones. So yeah, he will just say its some "schitzo posting" by DGG and move on.
@Draven18952 жыл бұрын
I can hear it now
@andrejjelcic36752 жыл бұрын
Imagine becoming a hardcore fan of fellow chatter called Irish Laddie.
@thedog29782 жыл бұрын
Vaush is the best example on the internet of just how many people are gullible to ridiculous ideas so long as the person states them with confidence and authority.
@thedog29782 жыл бұрын
@@stansmith7445 Yes exactly, just worse.
@foxfairchild24582 жыл бұрын
Like ANYYYYY FUCKING PERSON In the POLTICAL SPECTRUM EVERRrRR!!!!! Hahaha lolz whoopty frickin doooo!!!! Lolz
@RediTtora11 ай бұрын
@@foxfairchild2458did you really try to equivocate
@Liam153611 ай бұрын
You just described destiny
@ugheieiemmmfmfmff10 ай бұрын
Wait so saying anything with authority or confidence means that you're manipulating people? What?
@FyberOptyk2 жыл бұрын
Vaush is like the human manifestation of the entire r/IAmVerySmart subreddit.
@MrRafagigapr2 жыл бұрын
His audience makes trump supporters look like intellectuals
@thegrinderman10902 жыл бұрын
He speaks like he's constantly in a Yu-Gi-Oh battle.
@tb86542 жыл бұрын
@@thegrinderman1090 bruh why is this such a fantastic metaphor to describe him lmao
@IvanTheLeiwand2 жыл бұрын
@@thegrinderman1090 hahahaha fucking true. Great comparison
@slowloris28942 жыл бұрын
He really isnt lol. You can hate the guy, but he really just is smart. He is pretentious and advocates for some bad policies but people in this community really twist who he is. I've been here for two years and it feels like I am seeing a completely different person.
@BruskPoet2 жыл бұрын
Wow, this will really get Vaush to do some rethinking after this right? Right...?
@qwertyuijamesop2 жыл бұрын
copium
@lafondawilliams2 жыл бұрын
You have to think before rethinking
@111Razvanutz2 жыл бұрын
he doesn't have any kind of introspection, his ego is up in the space. That ego and politician talk is doing all the heavy lifting for his fame, his brain is too fucked up by deep nihilism to even take anything he says as worthwhile
@baseddepartment73092 жыл бұрын
You a funny man
@EdgarFriendlysCivicsTeacher2 жыл бұрын
Oh totally. Dude is an introspection machine.
@anthony79602 жыл бұрын
Can’t handle Vaush or Hasan anymore. Hate to say it but Destiny was right about both of them.
@thedog29782 жыл бұрын
And then there's people like me, who have been trying to raise the alarm for years, just ecstatic that the "normies" are finally starting to see him for what he is: An obese sexual deviant whos sole talent is making absolutely ridiculous claims but stating them with absolute confidence and authority in a successful attempt to garner an audience made up of strictly gullible idiots. Nothing but a glorified gaslighter.
@thedoggy4802 жыл бұрын
Same, after being a fan of Vaush and Hasan for 2 years, watching Destiny is a breath of fresh air.
@owabowa2 жыл бұрын
What did Destiny say about Vaush and Hasan? Everything that I know come from random memes on the internet.
@anthony79602 жыл бұрын
@@owabowa Hasan is a clout goblin with no real convictions. He’ll just take the most woke take on everything to win internet points even if he’s basically disingenuous or flat out wrong. Vaush is a weirdo that’s basically role playing and trying to act edgy for shock value. His real life implementations are so unrealistic and make no sense.
@thedog29782 жыл бұрын
@@EsotericOccultist This.
@cambienvenu2 жыл бұрын
I had actually followed Vaush every now and then and was willing to overlook his very questionable takes. The moment he criticized Destiny for caring too much about the truth, it just clicked that he actually stands for nothing at all.
@Tempus622 жыл бұрын
Welcome to socialists there no different than Nazis and I'm tired of pretending otherwise. Change one word Irishladdy says and he sounds like the rest of them.
@Tempus622 жыл бұрын
@Russian Waifu that's the biggest skin crawl about him the most that just creeps me the fuck out and now die hard his supporters are. But honestly that can be said for a lot of content creator fanatics
@coffeepot31232 жыл бұрын
Vaush is literally the PC Principal from Southpark. He cares as much about the lgbtqowo+ as long as the cash flows and he land some hookups.
@garywebb24322 жыл бұрын
@@Tempus62 that's not true
@garywebb24322 жыл бұрын
@@EsotericOccultist right wingers are dumb by nature so that's not a gotcha
@know_no_th3ory1282 жыл бұрын
“Former DGGer for life” is pretty funny lol.
@wotter46392 жыл бұрын
Very salient critiques. This video has helped elucidate vowsh's invidious behavior and has ultimately ameliorated the discourse around this multifarious issue.
@SupersaiyanChristian2 жыл бұрын
Huh?
@XDfunnyguy2 жыл бұрын
Hmm yes, cogent and succinct filibuster
@deep_and_profound_topics2 жыл бұрын
lmfao
@matthew52262 жыл бұрын
ye
@yorhahoudini45312 жыл бұрын
Vowsh talks like he’s writing a fucking novel
@Wiffernubbin2 жыл бұрын
Vaush completely lost me last year when he admitted to saying he'd lie to promote his ideas. If he wasn't socialist say he were an authoritarian or a conservative or a monarchist his audience would have ripped him apart. How can you rely on someone for argumentation and knowledge when they've said they would lie just to win?
@historyismetal21872 жыл бұрын
Yeah that made me not even want to watch his videos just to see what him and his people think. They're liars
@iannordin52502 жыл бұрын
He began to lose me when he tried to justify his kneejerk, seething reactions to criticism on a public forum as some high-iq strat that everyone else was too dumb to get, despite him obsessing over the "optics" of Destiny and Hasan's similar outbursts. In the past he would have passed it off as him being edgy and malding (good). Instead he tried to act like he was being unfairly crucified by the ignorant masses for shit enlightened tweets. Streamers just need to admit they're dumb and reactive but Vaush lionizes himself as above it all. I really do think the longer you stream the less human you become.
@JustN0tMe2 жыл бұрын
😂So we got out of his community at the same time...Gigachad morality 👍🏾
@GlennYarwood2 жыл бұрын
Yep, you never really know what his ideas are because he has explicitly said he’d lie about them. The ‘market socialist’ facade ends as soon as you have acquired enough power. That being said, I watch plenty of people I disagree with; I think it’s good for people.
@TychonAchae2 жыл бұрын
Not only that, he also walked his way into epistemological anti-realism *just to avoid admitting he was wrong*. Like, holy shit. Game over. That's literally an admission from him that there's no point in ever talking to him about anything. Ever. I have NEVER witnessed anyone so insecure as to walk themselves into that position just to avoid biting the bullet.
@Mike234432 жыл бұрын
Surely, when Vaush hears about this, he will have a come to god moment and change for the better. Surely.
@kye42162 жыл бұрын
I’d bet money he just 100% ignores it and says “guys come on he’s just obsessed and spiteful we don’t need go watch it” and his fans will be like “huuuu truuuu remember he cheered on the rape of that child????”
@dghost15092 жыл бұрын
Hopefully.
@blegh3362 жыл бұрын
How new are you?
@dghost15092 жыл бұрын
@@blegh336 Advanced humor, meet head. Oh shit too high, too high!
@faikerdogan28022 жыл бұрын
@@blegh336 i believe it's sarcasm
@jokersdemise2 жыл бұрын
>8 minutes old >1.6k views Early bird sigmas 🤝 Nightowl working class Andys
@jokersdemise2 жыл бұрын
@M S input disregarded
@Minecraftdemon992 жыл бұрын
I am just Australian
@jokersdemise2 жыл бұрын
@@Minecraftdemon99 from the land of the Editors. Inshallah, bröther.
@MItchellLification2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the other timezones, it's 11pm here.
@G13ULTRA2 жыл бұрын
australian checking in at 9:06pm
@KazmirRunik2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, August is the big difference between Vaush & Destiny while they're doing this whole proxy debate in the background, because when Vaush says something about Destiny on one of his videos, he sort of just says it and moves on, but when Destiny says something about Vaush, August substantiates it ad nauseum. Vaush actually did these very same types of cutaways for the Kat Blaque thing, but they seem to be missing more and more whenever he talks about Destiny.
@coolroxas2 жыл бұрын
Cold war arc
@ripstainmcripstain9052 жыл бұрын
Destiny's editor is a god.
@sameames7242 жыл бұрын
destiny: "2:20:00 for the other execution timestamp? we only need one, we're good" august: "ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT"
@Astheniumn2 жыл бұрын
@@johnlonne7062 It takes effort to do this daily, shifting through hours of footage and being able to provide relevant information in the form of videos/screenshots when the stream highlight requires it. The editor doesn’t just clips things together and call it a say, the editor is educated on Destiny’s history by basically doing a mini-video essay daily. It wouldn’t surprise me if there’s a team of editors instead of just a editor.
@markzuckergecko6212 жыл бұрын
"Oh, no no no, I wouldn't kill you. I would have people for that." Holy shit Vaush is a psycho. I think we all knew that, but I also don't think it can be understated.
@murderparker79682 жыл бұрын
And I don’t think he’s kidding when he says he’d prescribe the confiscation of property, and execution, of people who don’t comply with his socialist revolution. (As long as he’s a leader of that revolution and is able to keep his wealth of course.)
@crzyprplmnky2 жыл бұрын
@@murderparker7968 I don't think he's kidding, but I do think he's posturing. I don't think he *would* do anything or that he *could* gain any mainstream support in the real world
@markzuckergecko6212 жыл бұрын
@@crzyprplmnky I dunno man, it wasn't too long ago that just calling yourself a socialist in western countries was socially taboo, the same as if you self described yourself as a cannibal. As it should be. Cannibals are actually more benign than socialists, at least only a couple of people die if you're a cannibal. Thousand or millions die because of socialism, every time it's tried. And look at how many people support it now. To act like it's unreasonable for a large number of people to support violent tyranny like Vaush is suggesting is just naive, I would even say dangerously naive.
@markzuckergecko6212 жыл бұрын
@@EsotericOccultist lmao, leftists are either liars or idiots. There's not a 3rd option.
@mythologue2 жыл бұрын
@@EsotericOccultist Nah. They have their own share of stupidity to fall for.
@Black_pearl_adrift2 жыл бұрын
I remember realizing how stupid I sounded trying to pace out the logic of Vaush’s “tactical n-bomb” to my boyfriend 💀 I sounded so stupid. I didn’t even agree with Vaush at the time but just saying the logic out loud was so bad that was the moment I knew maybe this Vaush guy is a bit iffy
@Nightknight19922 жыл бұрын
condolences.
@robbiedontmiss2 жыл бұрын
TRUE. I had a conversation about why socialism is better than capitalism with my ex by using Vaush's arguments. Midway through our conversation, I started debunking Vaush's arguments before she could. I felt so stupid. That's when I realized, maybe Vaush ain't it.
@iamdanyboy12 жыл бұрын
@@robbiedontmiss which argument.
@iamdanyboy12 жыл бұрын
That was his dumbest one ever. Not because it was a bad argument. But be careful he could never hedge it publicly.
@tb86542 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that you've grown since then, cause anybody who's not of X demographic that says "I'm saying X slur that isn't related to me at all to show you that any slurs that are related to me and directed towards me as an insult will not bother me", the argument is fine when it's your own but using a slur from another demographic to claim that your own slurs hold no power over you is some dumb sh*t
@dukecherry51692 жыл бұрын
"The right lies on purpose!" says the guy who lies on purpose
@highcouncil13022 жыл бұрын
Well he is not wrong
@bathcat37592 жыл бұрын
@@highcouncil1302 does the left lie on purpose?
@highcouncil13022 жыл бұрын
@@bathcat3759 of course both sides do
@bathcat37592 жыл бұрын
@@highcouncil1302 fair enough
@brad56962 жыл бұрын
I've been willing to give vaush a lot of grace in his bad takes in the hopes of him improving and but I've reached my limit with the guy. At this point, denying his blatant misrepresentation and bad faith treatment of his detractors is borderline delusional. Destiny has fucked up now and then with misrepresenting vaush but the scale in which it is now is so heavily weighed against vaush that it isn't even fair to make the comparison anymore. The dude has really let me down. The funny irony is I ended up discovering destiny through vaush and not the other way round, so I've been primed to support the guy. At this point though the camels back is well and truly broken.
@philodox75992 жыл бұрын
Why would you give vaush a chance? Why give really bad people a chance? It’s clear after 3 hours of listening to vaush that he is a really bad person.
@BatsAndBadgers2 жыл бұрын
this is the same criticism people make of destiny. verdict? people think the exact same things of people they dont like and there is no point to this other than that
@philodox75992 жыл бұрын
@@BatsAndBadgers you can criticize anyone about anything, the difference with vaush is that 90% of the criticism is is what Vaush actually does or advocates for in real life.
@philodox75992 жыл бұрын
@@BatsAndBadgers Yes Destiny and everyone else do bad things as well. BUT 90% of what Vaush does or says is bad, violent or not based in fact or good faith. He is a bad person to a far greater degree than most debate people on the internet.
@garywebb24322 жыл бұрын
@@philodox7599 like?
@trentthehehim39362 жыл бұрын
No the online community LITERALLY think that that ANY negativity toward the on line community is harassment no matter how benign. Hence why you’re a Transphobe for ANY negative to the “ community” at all.
@rockbark21372 жыл бұрын
Destiny: the next timestamp of the execution comments are 2 hours in? We dont need to watch that. August: yes we fucking do
@hewhomustnotbenamed92762 жыл бұрын
Some new craziness to listen to at 6:30am. Destiny (and August) provides. 😁👍
@jcobleigh092 жыл бұрын
Good morning friend, hope you have a good day
@faikerdogan28022 жыл бұрын
3am for me 😂
@hewhomustnotbenamed92762 жыл бұрын
Good morning all. As a 50yr old Pagan (yep...for real) dude of color, I know I'm not his regular demographic, but I've been watching him for about 5yrs. He's correct more often than not and he's speaking for a great swath of liberals, soc dems, questioning progressives, and conservatives who haven't been driven ideologically mad. Outside of a few rhetorical missteps and a couple takes I've disagreed with, Destiny has been an overwhelming good for both liberal and progressive discourse online. Anyone who disagrees with my assessment is objectively wrong and thinking with their feelings.
@PongoDaMan2 жыл бұрын
For real haha I love that he’s in my time zone now
@It-Will-All-Be-Okay-I-Promise2 жыл бұрын
@@hewhomustnotbenamed9276 That last statement makes it hard to discern if your comment is satire, so lemme clarify; You serious?
@matrixmeditator2 жыл бұрын
I signed up for my 3 months free of surfshark thanks to this gnome's ad.
@KodatheYT2 жыл бұрын
Watching this at 5 AM (not a cult btw)
@KodatheYT2 жыл бұрын
@M S I work nights so this is normal for me
@kylerBD2 жыл бұрын
same dud
@xokirei2 жыл бұрын
watching it at work (not a cult btw)
@liv41912 жыл бұрын
August never disappoints with those clips. Can’t even tell you how much worse these videos would be w/o the amazing editing. Good content, buddy!! GODSTINY
@666PlagueBlack2 жыл бұрын
The real bad faith was the friends we made along the way.
@cdubbau1352 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@wisetrollman2 жыл бұрын
It’s so obvious how Vaush started to distance himself after he got optically (and logically) obliterated first in the Rittenhouse case and then in the lefty business owner debate (the Philosophytube one). Ever since he smears Destiny any chance he gets, primes his community against him. Vaush might have thought he can take over the role Destiny held since the latter half of the 2010’s by squeezing him out of the left-leaning online space jumping the bad faith optics bandwagon - but he strongly miscalculated. He is far less logically consistent and intelligent, and has way too big of an ego.
@monkeybudge2 жыл бұрын
The fact he appealed his ban with twitch as soon a Destiny was gone shows what a coward he is. And his fans were cheering him on for it, not even seeing what an absolute spiteful coward he is. He has truly and throughly poisoned the well with his audience when it comes to Destiny.
@c0mplex5642 жыл бұрын
I feel like Steven Kenneth (Destiny) Bonnel II has outpaced Vaush, intellectually.
@rcurl442 жыл бұрын
Lmao wut
@monkeybudge2 жыл бұрын
@@rcurl44 You need to indicate who you are responding to and “wut” you’re questioning.
@markzuckergecko6212 жыл бұрын
@@c0mplex564 so has my blue heeler. No disrespect to Destiny, I'm actually starting to like him quite a bit. But saying he's smarter than Vaush isn't saying much.
@TeQuilloni2 жыл бұрын
Hope the Destiny's manifesto will be eye opening about him to other people's communities mostly. It's tiring to see so many people ( especially on the far left ) just miss quote or blatantly lie about Destiny's positions and or what he said. Can't wait for that to come out 🙏 this one was fun during the stream.
@TheMrBrown962 жыл бұрын
No one has been done dirtier!
@FishSticker2 жыл бұрын
A lot of destiny’s stuff is defensible, but that rape stuff 2 months ago was so gross
@jameskrupka51052 жыл бұрын
Constant gaslighting! That’s where I broke w the left. I think there’s a lot of young ppl that need to be humbled a little bit-just a thought, but you’re right on this.
@jacobtrost50482 жыл бұрын
I mean...Destiny also misquotes and misrepresents other streamers' positions. That kind of drama just comes with the territory.
@mdh_masalewale86812 жыл бұрын
@@FishSticker that was probably the easiest to defend position lmao. Destint never called the woman a retarded child but everyone made it appear like he did. His position was 100% logically and morally consistent
@frankmarano11182 жыл бұрын
I've always known Vaush purposely tries to use unnecessarily flowery language to appear smart & he comes off as being so incredibly pompous, it's why I've never subscribed to him & never will. God I remember his video attacking everyone in his chat for not being in open relationships LOL. I know this manifesto will make Vaush big mad
@MeserithSama2 жыл бұрын
The Tacoma wept thing is hilarious. It’s posturing of the most braggadocios variety.
@dafeels30852 жыл бұрын
Very salient critique
@emperortgp24242 жыл бұрын
He can ameliorate his maidenless status within 2 hours.
@markzuckergecko6212 жыл бұрын
Seriously, even if he really does hook up with as many women as he suggests, those types of women wouldn't bat an eyelash if he went away, they would just find a new pole to smoke. Those type of women don't care who's attached to the pole.
@leleltea89212 жыл бұрын
@@markzuckergecko621 have you seen his girlfriend? I'm sorry but she's not much to brag about. And I don't just mean looks wise - she's just as ugly a person inside as Vaush
@j.c.jeggis18182 жыл бұрын
25:45 I love moments like this, when Destiny is watching Destiny watching Vaush talking about seeing Destiny the way Vaush sees Destiny
@westingtyler12 жыл бұрын
I loved watching Vaush for like a year, like 2020 I think. but when he starting saying things like he he cares more about winning than he cares about the truth, I was like "he sounds like Andrew Brietbart", and I lost all respect for Vaush. someone who believes that TRUTH can't really lead to victory, loses my respect.
@Achillusgaming2 жыл бұрын
Damn he must of had some kind of vocal training. His voice has changed so much, and he puts SOOO much work into manipulating his voice during conversations. Maybe this is petty, but its one of the MOST off-putting things he does. You just feel like he is brazenly trying to manipulate you the entire conversation.
@andredunhos40972 жыл бұрын
Probably is where he spends time instead of researching politics and philosophy
@Achillusgaming2 жыл бұрын
@@fredbologn2344 Yeah, it triggers my inner bullshit radar, where i cannot view any of his points in an unbiased way, because I can feel the unnatural manipulation of his voice, and I subconsciously defend against it by being hyper-critical of what he is saying.
@NogGonnaMakeIt2 жыл бұрын
He has kinda mid Atlantic bourgeois affectation and it is so off-putting. You know he indulges in all these power fantasies about himself and that's the version that he is projecting to his audience.
@TychonAchae2 жыл бұрын
Yep. And that by itself betrays how utterly insecure the guy is if he is willing to go to those lengths.
@whiteperson17422 жыл бұрын
He literally talks like a cult leader talking down to people like a super genius that understands the world lol
@cafelattis94872 жыл бұрын
Something that is super funny is that i used to be a staunch defender of Vaush, but since i consume both Vaush's and Destiny's content i realized that Vaush was so fucking bad faith against Destiny. It just kept on adding up with lying about Steve's positions, arguing that debating Destiny would be a waste of time, copying his mannerisms etc etc. And finally, not defending his ban of Twitch.
@chasepalumbo29292 жыл бұрын
Same, except I came over earlier on the rittenhouse arc where vaush was proven wrong about every single goddamn thing he tried to say. I think vaush is slowly painting himself into a corner
@SnakeTheHat2 жыл бұрын
Yeah still will watch his content because his rhetoric is good most of the time. But yeah this shit has me leaning way more towards destiny.
@professorrubickmagusgrandi79092 жыл бұрын
I used to not mind vaush, but now all everything he and his editor says is edgy reactionary hyperbole. Everytime he talks about conservatives it's something like "these people want trans kids dead". All he cares about is outrage and having a lefty circlejerk.
@cafelattis94872 жыл бұрын
@@chasepalumbo2929 To me it was never really one thing. It was his behavior, his ego, him defending Hasan, bad faith, lying about Destiny, bad positions, bad argument and the constant posturing etc etc. Im usually pretty forgiving cause people are flawed, and i still watch some of Vaush's content but i am pretty critical about it. Still, Vaush does have redeeming qualities.
@cafelattis94872 жыл бұрын
@@SnakeTheHat Yeah same here. But slowly leaning even more on Destiny's content. Vaush's content has become even more stale. Sometimes there are some gold nuggets.
@Hubris19982 жыл бұрын
"his worldview includes the execution of me" LMFAO
@justlooking10872 жыл бұрын
Lol that exchange between Vaush and exskillsme kills me every time I hear it 😂😂. What Vaush was saying was wild but it’s pure comedy 😂😂
@TheAliceQuo2 жыл бұрын
There's so much LORE in this video. I was there for so much of it, too. My god how far we've come.
@JJarvis942 жыл бұрын
I always love hearing old vaush. You can tell how insecure he was with his voice where he just completely changed how he spoke. Them reterorics
@Ab.Stat.2 жыл бұрын
I'm perplexed when I think of all the people that look up to Vaush and take him seriously. Teenagers probably.
@erikryan86632 жыл бұрын
Anyone who takes any of these internet “debate bros” are teenagers
@markzuckergecko6212 жыл бұрын
Broke losers who have bought into the ideology that it's someone else's fault they're broke losers.
@scotty2122 жыл бұрын
@@erikryan8663 who takes?
@ryohio47062 жыл бұрын
In my small time in Vaush comment sections, it truly is an echo chamber of annoying, debate obsessed communist/socialist tweens or people that are horrendously bad faith with anything and anyone that isn't Vaush. It's pretty toxic. It unfortunate that people that reside in communities like that don't realize or care that that's how all critical/productive conversation is completely stifled and negative beliefs are allowed to thrive, it's good to have your beliefs challenged, that's how you grow as a person
@Segphalt2 жыл бұрын
@@ryohio4706 And made worse when he told his mods to basically ban anyone with even milquetoasts opposition.
@TopShot501st2 жыл бұрын
Bringing up all these past spicy Vaush clips makes me laugh even harder knowing what Destiny probably was banned for. The free passes some people get is kinda absurd.
@TriceratopsUnicorn2 жыл бұрын
"It was cool to see a more left leaning voice that seemed to be at least more measured and capable of a good debate" he says right after linking multiple videos of vaush saying anyone who disagrees with him gets the bullet. lmao
@williamcozart81582 жыл бұрын
Vaush has never taken any psychedelic drugs. I think he needs a trip..
@BillyBiceps2 жыл бұрын
Really hoping for a Destiny hit piece arc. Would love to see all these insane clips of people like Vaush and Hassan put together and explained
@katlicks2 жыл бұрын
There's a documentary already on Vaush called "Vaush is unironically evil"
@jinorth75722 жыл бұрын
Go retro with it, lets hear about TonkaTrucks beamer
@xenos_n.2 жыл бұрын
Omg old Vaush sounds so much dorkier
@swingingfordearlife2 жыл бұрын
Videos like this prove that destiny is objectively a better content creator and better faith actor than vaush
@ryanl2552 жыл бұрын
4:45 both destiny's laughing at the same time makes me laugh.
@roarbertbearatheon85652 жыл бұрын
Now I'm laughing too
@tmsniitez16282 жыл бұрын
Any August appreciators for this quality edited content?
@jillfizzard10182 жыл бұрын
August appreciators unite
@whitegirlsaremykryptonite57792 жыл бұрын
Vaush has motivated me to do a manifesto. I wonder what I should put. 🤔
@ThyCorruptor2 жыл бұрын
August, my friend. Another banger. Instant hood classic and running on trending. My boy you earn those paychecks.
@wilhelmtellmemore95432 жыл бұрын
As a non native english speaker i get brain cancer from trying to follow the 50 different chains of argumentation on double speed😅
@roberteriksen64342 жыл бұрын
Honestly, for the longest time, I thought he was previously poor, had experienced the hardships of it and is like he is cause he never wants to go back. He wants to amass as much wealth as possible by whatever means necessary to not be hurt again. I can kinda if not respect it, at least see where that drive is coming from. But no, apparently he was born wealthy and has a degree in sociology?!? So this is just coming from pure gluttony!?
@andrewlivingston15902 жыл бұрын
Yyyyyyyep.
@moonlightrouge39562 жыл бұрын
The problem is vaush’s audience is conditioned not to care about any of this, it’s either “old” or “out of context “ I remember he played the trans rant on his stream and blamed it on being edgy and Destiny, he basically said that that’s why he was using subhuman
@aperson29432 жыл бұрын
Just curious, do you prompt your editor to add in those clips, or do they do it themselves? If not, your editor deserves a raise. Truly great at their job
@dumbestyoutuber1622 жыл бұрын
Based Irish Laddie (vs Doe), is literally today's Destiny with insane lefties attacking him. It kinda bothers me that Destiny doesn't acknowledge this and seemingly stands against him on this point (despite his recent situation).
@NitehawkGaming2 жыл бұрын
lol didn't destiny literally just get heat like last week for calling a trans person sub human for their takes and ppl took that as being transphobic?? meanwhile years before we have our buddy vaush saying the same thing in an arguably worst context. 😂
@fem02 жыл бұрын
this isnt THE manifesto though right?
@myym792 жыл бұрын
Yeah he’s planning on making one himself according to the description for this video
@myym792 жыл бұрын
Nvm I seriously thought I read it in the description but I think I’m just tired af lmao. He did put in links to a notepad though so I think we can reasonably expect him to make his own.
@SirLied2 жыл бұрын
Penned by Marx himself
@deechonada2 жыл бұрын
i stopped listening to hasan and vaush both when i realised they were completely out of their depth talking about black issues. I don't expect them to know everything about the experience but some of the things they've said seemed very harmful to the cause
@adrianchriste62 жыл бұрын
The tacoma wept thing had me dying not gonna lie, like chill Vaush lol
@SkeleTonHammer2 жыл бұрын
20:00 This clip is only optically bad. After being in a few of these kinds of communities myself, he's 100% right about this. These communities are super fucked up and rife with various combinations of mental illnesses to the point that everyone is walking on eggshells and if you say anything against the orthodoxy even slightly, the entire community swoops in to (metaphorically) knock you over and take turns kicking the shit out of you until you leave.
@Winasaurus2 жыл бұрын
Calling marginalized people "sub-human" and talking about how they need to be purged, just for the shock value so you can later go "I was talking about online guys, not real life" is still kinda scummy. He chose words invoking genocide intentionally just for the attention.
@saisameer87712 жыл бұрын
But he thought it was OK to go after J K Rowling for saying something incredibly mild about trans stuff.
@benwatford306811 ай бұрын
This is his only good take
@lilyk5272 жыл бұрын
My biggest problem with vaush is that he's a raging and open misogynist... Though most of these comments say they only stopped being fans when he failed to be a good enough debate bro 🙄
@mariomario14622 жыл бұрын
People should stop using words like "grooming" And "pedophilia" when most of the time it's neither
@mariomario14622 жыл бұрын
@@spookychest9210 dont trigger me. You wont like me when I'm triggered
@GoneDee2 жыл бұрын
dude when i saw you slouched i was rolling xD right into my feeeeeed
@bingchilling_692 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna be hearing the birds by the time I'm done with this video
@WanderTheNomad2 жыл бұрын
Watch on 2x speed
@SirLied2 жыл бұрын
Bro don't get me started on the birds The fan I used for white noise broke after several consecutive months of service, so if I'm up past 5 it's all over Never hated nature like that in my life! 😤
@keirscott-schrueder56252 жыл бұрын
tactically you should continue to be charitable towards Vaush because it just makes you look better
@BlueMoon_ASMR2 жыл бұрын
Hard agree
@Wiffernubbin2 жыл бұрын
Optics matters even if Destiny disagrees. Normies are optics losers and can't consume hyper edgy takes.
@k.s.r.-tv17002 жыл бұрын
Right in my feed
@BodieMoto2 жыл бұрын
Vaush reminds me of the dude in high school who did magic tricks and preyed on the "unremarkable" girls to feel like he was a player lol the part where he said "do you know who you're talking to" was so cringe, as if people are supposed to be aware of his sexual activity outside of being a creepy sex pest on discord
@markzuckergecko6212 жыл бұрын
The only time the "do you know who I am?" Shtick is acceptable is when you're making fun of people who unironically use the "do you know who I am" schtick.
@jimmyramos19892 жыл бұрын
Exactly this.
@Blank_01_012 жыл бұрын
There's something about Vaush that weirds me out on a primal level. His entire being is the personification of uncanny valley. Like if the G-Man was a sexual predator.
@haydengreenwood5082 жыл бұрын
Exactly the same for me. He sets alarms bells off for me. He’s the only person to ever have this affect on me. It’s like every word, every looks, every move is calculated on his part. There’s nothing authentic or natural about him. Even when he loses his temper it seems calculated.
@standardworkaround2 жыл бұрын
He's incredibly self-conscious, he can't do anything naturally. The way he talks is so affected its like hes poorly reading a script. Really odd guy.
@xokirei2 жыл бұрын
@@standardworkaround i've not thought about it that way cause it's not something you see in your day to day, but that's an interesting read. some ppl can be too self aware to a fault and become unable to do anything candidly, which is probably why vaush's speaking cadence is so instantly recognisable and a lot of other streamers copy it since it comes off as a calculated way of speaking
@standardworkaround2 жыл бұрын
@@xokirei Another example of this is Sam Hyde, obviously to a completely different effect.
@markzuckergecko6212 жыл бұрын
He's both fat and frail at the same time, and it creeps me out.
@percilenis84642 жыл бұрын
Okay, I’m going to make a serious point here. I think Vaush’s argument that the ends justify the means if the people get to the right position is incredibly damaging to every angle of the conversation. For one, it’s just wishful thinking. I’m his ideal view, even though you arrived at a “correct” conclusion through misinformation, you will eventually find the facts and arguments to back up that position legitimately. Except that is completely counter-intuitive. Why would anyone continue to challenge their own belief if they already think they have the correct foundation for it? It’s equivalent to telling someone to steal someone’s answer on a math problem while not knowing how to do the work and then hoping they reverse engineer the solution to create the justification. Why would anyone do that? Most people don’t operate that way and the only sure way to get them to actually find a support for their position is to challenge them on their beliefs. Not only are people extremely resistant to changing their beliefs, people like Vaush actively support the existence of an environment where those who disagree and challenge your opinions should not have a platform or at least are not legitimate good faith actors. And let’s not beat around the bush, I don’t think Vaush supports deplatforming on a mass scale because his content relies on having arguments with people who he thinks are wrong, but his tactics are no less toxic as he basically vilifies and delegitimizes anyone who doesn’t agree with him. There’s no such thing as a legitimate opposing view for people like Vaush, you’re either with him or you’re not a legitimate actor. Not only that, but for people who actually have reasoned takes, those takes are now attacked based on the misinformation used to legitimize them. Take for example the dumbass talking point that women get less cents on the dollar than men for the same job, even Obamna fell victim to this talking point. It’s just not true and idiots will defend this point without even understanding it. You can acknowledge the pay and wealth inequality between men and women by looking at legitimate social and workplace factors, but nowhere in the country will you find a man and woman doing the same job at a company where a man is making more than the woman literally per dollar. Yet this talking point is uttered like it’s truth and now every time you have conversations about this topic you have to spend time addressing how fucking stupid that is.
@matthewleibfred7602 жыл бұрын
LOL at the chapter names... loving the promo end part
@vgfan4ever2 жыл бұрын
You just earned my sub, Destiny. I've always thought you were the greatest debater in your circle of friends, but never supported you because of your meta grouping. Seeing you reflect on yourself tells me you can step outside of it, people like vaush will never be able to.
@mysticflow4672 жыл бұрын
what reflection? like what reflection did you see recently that made you sub.
@vgfan4ever2 жыл бұрын
@@mysticflow467 At one point in this video he says something like I was running so much defense for vaush, which might seem like an innocuous comment but it tells me he was critiquing himself. I respect the man who is willing to look like the fool for his beliefs (or in this case, recognize his foolishness) more than the man who needs to appear flawless all the time. The fool seeks for growth and change, the ruler seeks stagnation.
@mysticflow4672 жыл бұрын
@@vgfan4ever this... out of all things is what got you to sub interesting interesting, destiny has changed his thoughts/positions many times to the better positions and reflects a lot
@vgfan4ever2 жыл бұрын
@@mysticflow467 For sure, that's definitely one of the things that makes him arguably one of the better debaters on KZfaq. One thing I've always noticed about Destiny is that he doesn't bullshit around theoreticals to find a morsel of truth to sell you as a 5 course meal, nor does he have a nice fireside lounge chat where they sell a lot of t-shirts. His debates were always the rawest, most pugilistic debates around lol. But that's how you make steel, you have to temper the iron.
@vgfan4ever2 жыл бұрын
@Oswald Cobblepot vaush is extremely unintelligent and all of his debates are "I dunno, can't attest to that, how dare you not attest to the faults of capitalism". He's actually not even rotely intelligent, just very deceptive.
@gabrielsilvestre51742 жыл бұрын
I'm not buying Surfshark until Captain Caveman here delivers a better pitch.
@charlieme22952 жыл бұрын
It’s weird when someone is being called transphobic when they’ve defended real trans people because they disagree on trans women in sports and xenopronouns. Destiny is certainly spicy but his positions are based. I want someone to make a video on destiny and his “far right” community with proof.
@kentuckyboy1112 жыл бұрын
Anything right of extreme leftism is “far right” to these people.
@Tocinos2 жыл бұрын
Equivalent of "i have a black friend"
@AveSequoia2 жыл бұрын
@@Tocinos would actual racist have black friends?
@GigaChadh9762 жыл бұрын
@@Tocinos Not really. It’s more like “you have lied consistently about me and you have no grounds to stand on.”
@AnHonestPerspective2 жыл бұрын
One thing about his argument with Lance where he's wrong is the security of names on badges. He points out that there's chips that let you swipe in, the secure part of that is the chip not the name. I work at a company like this, trans employees can get their internal names changed without legal change, doesn't affect the security there. If there was a situation where there's government work or someone needs to constantly validate your state identity sure but that's not what they were arguing about
@monke54032 жыл бұрын
Vaush is like a side villain no one takes seriously it’s so sad how serious he takes himself 💀
@ndt73792 жыл бұрын
I like Destiny and all, but parts like 4:05 show exactly why guys like Vaush and Hasan were able to become so big. Destiny is completely at fault for part of their extremism and growth. Those two were always shitty people, but imagine having someone as big as Destiny essentially sponsoring your growth and actively defending your shit takes. There's also the fact that past Destiny was also pretty bad in a lot of regards, though he's grown since then as well. I looked at some of his past videos when he and those two were on good terms, and it's almost disgusting how much Destiny bent over backwards to protect them during some debates. Then again, like I said before, old Destiny was also pretty shitty too. He fostered the entire political side of Twitch, but also ACTIVELY pushed the plagues of it into their positions.
@ndt73792 жыл бұрын
@UCk4lS44-KOzl8jfUYT60RaA Destiny has a huge problem with befriendly extremely toxic people and then simping for them, then burning a bridge with them AFTER helping them grow too big. He's also shows terrible judgement with dealing with toxic situations, and in fact, makes it clear he doesn't really want to avoid them. Look at the Ana incident that spanned months. Despite being able to just force a restraining order on her, he chose to let her continue to create drama and risk him getting banned. He then chose to continuously feed her insanity by getting on streams (hosted by others) to argue, and stream himself reacting to her streams. Even now, he chose to "squash" the drama she created and become friends with her again. I love watching this dude and I hate watching him at the same time. Sometimes he just makes problems for himself that any normal personal could easily avoid.
@LearningDrummerSam2 жыл бұрын
@@ndt7379 Who's gonna be next. Mr Girl is my guess lol
@ndt73792 жыл бұрын
@@LearningDrummerSam I think Mr Girl is too chaotic neutral in their actions to do it.
@Nightknight19922 жыл бұрын
@@ndt7379 he explained the whole ana thing very detailed, there was just no option. restraining orders dont work for talking about somebody...
@ndt73792 жыл бұрын
@@Nightknight1992 He could have still tried contacting Twitch and made a case for her being banned, instead of saying he didn't want to. He also could have just avoided talking to her, but he never did. Even now, they're back to square one with their relationship. It's only a matter of time until she gets jealous of Melina and starts going off again.
@__-vu8io2 жыл бұрын
Geeze...who could have predicted Vaush's turn into a psycho...
@amsbeats8412 жыл бұрын
"it's a good thing I live in the United States with the world's best military!" How does Vaush think that this is the case? He admits socialism would harm the economy, but doesn't think it would harm the military? The only reason we even have a military, period is from tax dollars which is directly correlated to GDP. If the economy suffers enough, so will the military.
@mizel1012 жыл бұрын
If someome asked me at 13 what is my ideal 'masculine man' archatype was, my answer would be Vaush
@veritasabsoluta42852 жыл бұрын
Uh what?
@GigaChadh9762 жыл бұрын
You poor boy.
@batezioman74482 жыл бұрын
SHOUT OUT TO SEAN RANKLIN
@catracho902 жыл бұрын
I would notice that Destiny uses a subtle delivery of the word “dawg” Then i caught vaush saying it in a debate and thats when i caught stage 3 cancer
@DarrellVermilion2 жыл бұрын
18:40 Destiny: Can we just _not lie?_ Vaush: ɪ ʟᴏᴠᴇ ʜᴏʀsᴇ ᴄᴏᴄᴋ.
@tateroblaze7442 жыл бұрын
The cringe destiny felt when watching himself shill to someone Literally advocating murder gave me a lot of satisfaction.
@KazmirRunik2 жыл бұрын
20:00 I'm pretty sure this is a line Vaush is still walking, especially after the JK Rowling thing. What's damning is more of the contrast between this and the very next clip. However, he can play defense for this by saying that the older clip is from before a LOT of other conversations he's had, but he couldn't do that if the clip was from a more recent video where he's said similar things about the very same people within this past month. I think the real difference between then and now is that he discovered he was more correct than he was comfortable with, so he treats the mental health of terminally-online leftists with the empathy & delicacy that mental health actually deserves.
@playcations2 жыл бұрын
Lol August was on rplace during recording. Now that sound is placed in this vid forever around 30:00
@Redbeardblondie2 жыл бұрын
Is it just me, or does Vaush give off Walter White style narcissist vibes?
@Gordo5252 жыл бұрын
Regardless of his point of view, I just can't stand Vaush. It's not fair to him but there is just something in my brain that goes "Man this dude just sounds like an absolute prick" every time I hear him talk. It's like his tone of voice, comes across as such an arrogant ego manlet. As a britbonger I always thought that we had voices that sounded smug as heck, but then when I heard Vaush I was like "Oh, so THIS is how people feel when they hear me talk. I get it.".
@nicholasjacobs66052 жыл бұрын
He has the perpetual "teacher talking down to their student" voice, while making points that the student would make lol.
@markzuckergecko6212 жыл бұрын
Seriously, it's like a character from a poorly written movie or TV show, that's intended to be as irritating and unlikable as possible. Because the writer thinks you're stupid, and you won't understand you're not supposed to like the character unless they go waaaaaaay over the top with how unlikable they are.
@thedog29782 жыл бұрын
@@nicholasjacobs6605 Wow and I thought I was in the pinnacle of people who could accurately describe Vaush in just one sentence. But you sir... are just in another class of your own. Truly one of the most accurate descriptions of Vaush I've ever read lol
@levi94862 жыл бұрын
It is completely fair that you feel that way, because he IS a prick.
@emperortgp24242 жыл бұрын
us manlets do not deserve this slander thank you very much
@degeneresqueen60842 жыл бұрын
I thought it was finally starting/here lol
@ManualBreathing2 жыл бұрын
The editing, so beautiful 🤌😘
@SirZipper2 жыл бұрын
4:50 past and present Destiny laughing with each other is so funny
@DimiShimi2 жыл бұрын
Nothing interesting to talk about - Better bring up some bullshit drama. Both Destiny and Vaush are doing this. And I think they are just playing off each other on this. Cause it consistently gets them views.
@sweatybabypowderhands8432 жыл бұрын
Nah Vaush has been so spite driven against Destiny it's fascinating to watch how echo chambers form and how information goes around. Everyone thought Destiny called a rape victim a r*tard because Vaush said so. He never called her a r*tard. He's been getting away with it because he knew his fans won't ever look for the real context. If someone keeps smearing your name with misinformation like this and you're are one of the biggest political streamers too, that is not "bullshit drama". Vaush wants to discredit Destiny and he knows he can do so easily because Destiny doesn't care about optics. Destiny's manifesto will be such a great showing because all the information will be laid out on the table. I hope Vaush reacts to it but he's just gonna do the classic "Destiny wrote some weird obsessive post about me, y'know just Destiny being obsessed nothing to care about, we have importa-" stuff like that. His fans will eat it up in a second and never bat an eye.
@bennywolfe43572 жыл бұрын
Vaush cares about misinformation. It’s just that he likes it and supports doing it.
@leleltea89212 жыл бұрын
If it serves his ideological ends, that is
@MrChoobsabre2 жыл бұрын
How can people legitimately listen to Vaush speak for more than 2 minutes? The condescension dripping from his voice really hits my ears in a bad way.
@MadSupra3542 жыл бұрын
31:00 Was August on r/Place when he screenrecorded this video?😂
@philodox75992 жыл бұрын
Vaush has always been either #1 trolling #2 mentally and emotionally not well. I knew that after listening to him for 3 hours. I blows me away that it takes anyone years to figure it out.
@stone87782 жыл бұрын
obamna
@c0mplex5642 жыл бұрын
LULW 7
@Johnnybsknees2 жыл бұрын
Kamnala?
@cerealfamine12 жыл бұрын
Parkman has entered the chat
@reverendcoffinsotherson58072 жыл бұрын
Destiny is the king of liberal/leftie politics out of all the political streamers. Not Vaush. Not his clone Xanderhal. Not that one black dude shark something, can't remember his name.
@higgex81782 жыл бұрын
Vaush is so cringy i cant believe i watched him back then LMAO
@jameskrupka51052 жыл бұрын
Vaush the rich little child from Beverly Hills preaching socialism