LEAF BLOWER CFM or MPH? Which is more important? | Car Detailing Tips Best Way To Dry your Car!

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IMJOSHV - Car Detailing and Reconditioning Tips

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I love using a leaf blower to dry vehicles after i wash them. It reduces the risk of marring the paint, blows the water out of all the tights spots, and is super satisfying! But when you are looking to buy a leaf blower you get hit with a-lot of numbers and I hope to clarify those numbers for you in this video! Which is more important when buying a blower... CFM or MPH? Lets find out. ENJOY!
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TIME CODES:
0:00 - Intro
1:48 Side by Side comparison CFM vs MPH
3:42 Toro Leaf Blower MPH Test
5:15 Toro Leaf Blower CFM Test
6:35 CFM vs MPH Leaf Blower
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@Spills51 2 жыл бұрын

For anyone interested in the Toro f700 cause its so cheap there is a mod to make the 4" to a 3". If you get it at home depot go to the plumbing department and p/u a 4" to 3" coupler (can also p/u a 4" to 2") ...fits like a glove and narrows the blow force to what I personally think 3" is the perfect end for a QUICK CAR DRYER. You can grab it for under $6....😎😎

@jtekz_ Жыл бұрын

how do you get the coupler to stay on without it blowing off and maybe damaging the paint?

@Solomon1618 Жыл бұрын

Very good comment, thank you

@FU420B Жыл бұрын

Rubber coupling? Thanks

@thatredcam Жыл бұрын

Anyone find out if this is safe to use?

@vera_bh8091 Ай бұрын

@@jtekz_Screw silicone contact cement bolts and nuts. Find a option that works for you.

@kenseyx 2 жыл бұрын

CFM is mostly proportional to the strength of the motor, while MPH depends on both CFM and the nozzle diameter. Larger nozzle diameters means lower MPH. If we are talking about leaves, high CFM means you can move a lot of leaves at the same time. But high MPH makes it easier to move things that require a lot of force to move, like leaves that are stuck. Extreme case would be a super powerful unit but with a giant nozzle, so super high CFM super low MPH, then you would move all your dry loose leaves in a second but all your wet stuck leaves would never move at all. Drops on a car don't need a lot of force to move, so MPG is much less important than CFM.

@unleashthefury111 Жыл бұрын

A few stubborn straggler leaves on the lawn is a good thing. Decomposing leaves are great for the soil and lawn so don't fret over getting every single last leaf. I would go with the more CFM.

@aureliocortes4500 Жыл бұрын

By reading comments from others below where you can add reducers to increase MPH, would it affect the motor in any way since you are restricting the flow, therefore adding stress on the motor? It may create overheating or other problems where it would it break sooner?

@hinoki01 2 жыл бұрын

I just ordered the Worx Turbine 800.. 135 mph, 800 CFM. Yields 108,000 cleaning units. Found it for 59 USD! With this, I should be able to dry my car just fine without worrying about scratching the paint. Get everything nice and dry, and then put on a topper to add a bit of protection. Thanks for the great information!

@NewShockerGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Freaking AWESOME! You were comparing the SAME two blowers I was looking at to replace my Troy Built electric 150mph and only 180CFM that I currently use to dry the car with. Now I see the PowerJet F700 is the one to get!! So awesome. My electric blower worked pretty much the same as the one you first demostrated. What a nice difference between the two. Very noticeable with the PowerJet F700!

@locog7389 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. 2 days ago I was just wondering if I needed to get different blower but after seeing this video I believe my cordless works good enough for around house and the cars. Thanks man.

@imjoshv 3 жыл бұрын

👍👍

@andrewburger7627 2 жыл бұрын

The 260 mph is achieved by compressing the air, there by displacing the water drops. The other moves a greater volume of air but the air isn't compressed. It's volume vs rate of flow. Bottom line is, you're not going to dry the water drops from the surface, you're going to displace them from the surface. At a max of 260 mph you going to have more turbulence in the nooks and crannies like your mirrors. Good video BTW.

@ivangarza6405 3 жыл бұрын

Nice video, congrats on 10k subscribers 🥳🥳🥳 keep them coming

@imjoshv 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@OmarGonzalez-ns2om 3 жыл бұрын

Nice review Josh. I Should’ve done more research when buying my leaf blower. I’ve heard that the EGO leaf blowers are really good. Keep up the great work Josh🙌🏻

@imjoshv 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Omar

@davestewart9146 3 жыл бұрын

I have a smaller leaf blower that I bought years ago from Walmart, I have a lifted truck and I needed something that I can easily hold with one hand while on a ladder, great comparison Josh 👍😁

@imjoshv 3 жыл бұрын

👍👍

@gregbartley7179 3 жыл бұрын

I have that Toro Vac/Blower…..it’s AMAZING for yard cleanup and leaves…..used it to blow debris off of the driveway…..I LOVE it!!!! Never used it on my car though….too dirty by now!!!! I was considering the EGO 650 cordless

@imjoshv 3 жыл бұрын

Ill try to look into the EGO units

@kndvds1492 2 жыл бұрын

I've been using the F700 for nearly 2 years. I also own a land scape company. I can tell you it would be perfect for auto detailing if the nozzle diminished in size to 20-30% smaller at the tip. Still great for the price.

@Spills51 2 жыл бұрын

On thaT NOTE i SAW A GUY WHO CAME UP WITH THE PERFECT SOLUTION...While picking it up at Home Depot he also bought a 4" to 3" coupler taht fits like a glove in the plumbing department....Pretty much doing exactly what you mention above....BOOOOM 😋😋

@dutchtech 3 жыл бұрын

Great comparison demonstration

@imjoshv 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@koreywilliams4570 Жыл бұрын

I feel like I hit the sweet spot, I got the ego 765 cfm 200 mph blower. Waiting for my stubby nozzle to come in so I can give it a right proper test run. But first use and impressions with the stock nozzle. I like it. It cut my drying time down at least in half, And it got my wheels and tires completely dry. Got the drip zones really good and up by the hood where the water pools at the bottom of the windshield. It is loud as heck tho, I'd recommend wearing ear plugs.

@chahahc 11 ай бұрын

Dude's got a video for everything.

@captaina4458 3 жыл бұрын

Love my eGo 650!!! Rockin it w/ a 7.5amp hour battery. Crazy good!

@imjoshv 3 жыл бұрын

Im going to pick one up to try out. Thanks!

@captaina4458 3 жыл бұрын

@@imjoshv 117k units by your logic. Also, when drying vehicles, I don’t use end tips I keep it open.

@dj9151 3 жыл бұрын

Night and day difference when you use the ego650! Here in Az the ego is a must now that it’s getting warmer. I can wash then blow dry the vehicles before water spots set in. It has a nice turbo type button that works awesome on the wheels.

@richscott2483 Жыл бұрын

Got the WORX WG520 yesterday October 14, 2022, and used it today Oct. 15, and does a mediocre job. Washed my car today and using the WORX WG520 made water beads very small and plentiful. Took me 20 minutes to blow dry my new 2022 Honda Civic Touring, built on September 2022 (date of mfg on the driver door side) and received from a Honda dealership on October 4, 2022, with 2 miles. I bought the blower to avoid getting watermarks or streaks. It does blow leaves very well, but not so good for drying a car. I duct-taped a microfiber cloth around the plastic tip so an accidental touch on the car paint would not leave a scratch. The WORX WG520 is very light, the air intake will suck your tee shirt when close to it. I think suction is better than it blows. The Ryobi 730 CFM 40V Blower could be better because it has 130 CFM more than the WORX WG520 600 CFM. For $55 plus add sales tax, you are better off spending $90 to $120 for a much better product. You get what you pay for! The WORX WG521 is said to be 800 CFM you could try it. WORX WG520 not recommended as a car dryer. Plan on getting a battery-powered unit because dragging around an electrical cord is a nuisance and you don't have to worry about becoming electrocuted after washing your car. Safety First!

@gorgik 6 ай бұрын

Nice video! Can you remove dust from car with these blowers?

@nitrobiz Жыл бұрын

Have both of these and I prefer the Toro 51621 because of the flat nozzle. Now if I can only find a stubby flat nozzle for the F700 I would be set!

@popeyerubi1981 3 жыл бұрын

Can you do a review on the Blo Air-RS? And compare it with this leaf blower and recommend which one would you rather use?

@thomaspc0 2 жыл бұрын

Nice video. I'm looking at that 725 CMF Toro and have a smaller one similar to your other one (220 MPH) so I appreciate the comparo. The one thing you missed with the second one was how well it dried. You mentioned the first one left tiny little drop, which I get as well. How did the roof come out? Did it dry it completely or were there still tiny dropless left that you have to wipe off? Thanks.

@imjoshv 2 жыл бұрын

Both of them will dry completely if you work the panel long enough! You really can’t go wrong with either machine

@TurboSpeedWiFi 18 күн бұрын

Multiplying the CFM and the MPH together is much more useful than looking at either alone. To effectively push water off a car you want as much CFM and MPH as possible. Honestly, I like a raw force measurement better such as newtons or pounds. This will take in to account both the CFM and the MPH. Many of the more reputable brands now list this measurement especially on larger units. CFM and MPH used separately is pretty useless. It is like saying what is more important CFM or PSI on an air compressor or what is more important GPM or PSI on a pressure washer. They are both important and the most effective is the unit that has the highest combination of both.

@imjoshv 18 күн бұрын

Totally agree!

@patshelton3712 2 жыл бұрын

Isn't a back pack leaf blower the best for leaves, especially an acre with oak leaves?

@philipheilman5413 Жыл бұрын

what do you do with all the machines you "go out and buy" after you do your review?

@joegophotos Жыл бұрын

would you say. NO to cordless 18v ones that do 453 CFM? if trying to do an all cordless set up?

@unleashthefury111 Жыл бұрын

I just bought a Stihl BG86 gas blower and it's got like 400 CFM and 150 MPH or something like that. I did my whole yard with not a problem, only it couldn't really move the piles once collected. Even though my yard is done and only used this $300 machine one time, I am so tempted to buy the Worx Turbine 800 CFM out of morbid curiosity. I would literally have to rake some leaves out of the woods back into a pike, just for the sake of seeing how it co pares moving the piles. Because if it's that much better, I could try and sell the Stihl one I bought and pocket some cash, since the Worx 800 is less than $100. Am I crazy and should I just let my current obsession over leaf blowers pass? Or do I bite the bullet and possibly lose money for the thrill?

@takedown6470 2 жыл бұрын

I have th Toro CFM 725 and I love it.

@imjoshv 2 жыл бұрын

👍👍

@leo2502 2 жыл бұрын

I’m REALLY hoping that you’re wearing hearing protection while using those blowers. I have both and they are both VERY dangerous to your hearing long run. Especially indoors. On a different note, both work great for me. I always use the finer nozzle on them in order to concentrate flow. In conjunction with the higher airflow, lowering the coefficient of friction by ceramic coating really helps. I also use a rubber edge on them to prevent mishaps from making contact accidentally.

@imjoshv 2 жыл бұрын

Not in the video, but i do when i actually work!!

@Jesuschristitsjasonbourne3 Жыл бұрын

Lol are you fucking kidding me? You are a fucking weird dude. What a stupid fucking comment

@leo2502 Жыл бұрын

@@Jesuschristitsjasonbourne3 yes. Loud noises, for extended periods of time are very damaging to your ears. If you don’t know that then consult literally any ent. If you didn’t know that, I’d also like to make you aware it’s dangerous to look at lasers, the sun, and touching hot stoves.

@leo2502 Жыл бұрын

@@Jesuschristitsjasonbourne3 really? That’s your addition to your comment? Now it’s a masterpiece hahahaha

@Jesuschristitsjasonbourne3 Жыл бұрын

@@leo2502 an electric blower is around 50-70 db at its loudest. The human ear can listen to 70db and below for an infinite amount of time without damage. Sounds at 85db can be listened to 8 hours. Him drying his car for a few min will not affect his hearing. You are dumb for talking without actually knowing what you are talking about.

@johnnyv5995 3 жыл бұрын

I've been a CFM guy from the start, but I'm liking Cleaning Units calculation method :0)

@imjoshv 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! It seems to make sense i think

@timl6450 3 жыл бұрын

Good info on the mph vs. cfm comparison. I’ve got the Toro two in one blower and it’s a great machine for yard work. But since I regularly use the mulching function, I wouldn’t use it to dry my car. With the mulching function, you’re drawing dirt, leaves, small sticks and even small rocks into the machine. Most of that goes into the mulching bag, but when you switch to the blower, there’s a risk that you’re going to launch any remaining dust and debris right onto the freshly washed car at high MPH. And if you’re not using the mulching function, why pay for it? I’d stick to a regular blower for car work.

@imjoshv 3 жыл бұрын

Yea better to be safe than sorry!!

@Tallnerdyguy Жыл бұрын

use the blower before you dry the car... not a concern

@YahmahaR7 2 жыл бұрын

can ye do a video on th CRAFTSMAN Leaf Blower, Electric, 12-Amp (CMEBL700) comparing et with th one ye have? th craftsman one is cheaper but has th same stats and looks th same

@knifewrenchaf 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe would get the best of both worlds with a reduction tip on the higher CFM unit. That should increase the speed of the air.

@imjoshv 3 жыл бұрын

Good point

@noahcantu336 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Josh I’m wanting to start my own mobile car detailing. I have most of the equipment I will need already. Just wanting to know if you have any tips for a beginner in the business.

@imjoshv 3 жыл бұрын

Getting customers will be what keeps you in business so make sure you treat the customer right! Congrats on the new business and good luck!!!

@noahcantu336 3 жыл бұрын

@@imjoshv thank you very much.

@___Puppet__Master___ 2 жыл бұрын

If you use Electricity as an analogy Voltage is equivalent to MPH (Pressure) and Amperage is equivalent to the CFM...(Volume). So to calcule which one is better it's the MPH x CFM= Power (your winner) so basically it's almost the same for both unit...you should be happy for both.

@josephtheinflatableguy4609 3 жыл бұрын

I would recommend buying the Toro ultra because I think it is more versatile

@imjoshv 3 жыл бұрын

👍

@dontaewoods79 2 ай бұрын

I mean we're battling water. How much power do we really need

@TheFirstTimers 3 жыл бұрын

Which one works better for office chair spinning needs?

@imjoshv 3 жыл бұрын

CFM since ive put on more weight ha

@thinkforyourself5672 2 жыл бұрын

Do you guy's think a narrower nozzle makes a big difference? I just bought a nice Brushless battery powered Ryobi but it has a pretty large opening at the end. And I can't find any different ends to buy

@imjoshv 2 жыл бұрын

Typically the larger nozzle gives off more cfm. I use both and like both but as long as it’s a powerful enough unit the wide nozzle is totally fine!!

@josephtheinflatableguy4609 3 жыл бұрын

I used the CU calculations on all my blowers and I found out the the Toro Ultra is more powerful than the Echo handheld gas by 10000 Cu while my older Toro rake and vac has a CU of 56000 and my Ryobi ONE+ is 28000 CU

@imjoshv 3 жыл бұрын

yeah the battery powered units are typically not as powerful.. how do you like the ryobi one+. thinking about reviewing that

@josephtheinflatableguy4609 3 жыл бұрын

@@imjoshv The ONE+ is great for small jobs far away from the outlet and is easy to use. It also excels blowing hard surfaces with medium debris but it doesn't do well with wet leaves in large piles so I rarely use it for that job.

@javiwankenobi 3 жыл бұрын

Newbie question, do you skip the drying cloth step with the leafblower? or do you still have to go through it with the mf cloth?

@imjoshv 3 жыл бұрын

i still prefer to use a drying towel so i dont have to run the blower as long. However i have a few customers with VERY high end cars and they are all black so i use the blower and reduce the towel usage to a minimum so i dont induce any marks

@javiwankenobi 3 жыл бұрын

@@imjoshv Thanks for taking the time to reply! I will definately go with both as my car are definately not high end LOL. Keep up the great videos

@Vivicloud01 2 жыл бұрын

@@javiwankenobi That's what I'm going to do as well. Blow dry it off with the torso and then spot dry anything that's still there.

@joshuaahlstrom3174 Жыл бұрын

if you take the 725 cfm blower and use a smaller nozzle, it lowers the cfm but increases the speed. its all about the nozzle diameter.

@imjoshv Жыл бұрын

Just like orifice size with pressure washer nozzles! Great point!

@tribulationprepper787 2 жыл бұрын

I have had both of these units as well, both purchased at Lowe's. Where blowing leaves is concerned, the less expensive unit with the larger diameter exhaust nozzle is ABSOLUTELY more effective. I can move piles of leaves from twenty feet away with the F700. I am going to try it out on my driveway snow later this morning.

@ericfranke1637 2 жыл бұрын

Do you own both to say one is more effective? I can do the same with the high MPH Toro.

@tribulationprepper787 2 жыл бұрын

@@ericfranke1637 You asked, "Do you own both to say one is more effective?". NO is the answer to your question. I sold one and kept the F700 after comparing the two. Go spend the $70 for the F700 and THEN... you decide. Not until then will you know.

@anthonyrivera842 Жыл бұрын

Whitcj is a good blower thats can blow the dust off my car seats and thats powerful

@jazznjayy 2 жыл бұрын

bottom line mph=move less & heavy objects (wet leaves) and cfm=move more & lighter objects (dry leaves)

@Jeeper1378 3 жыл бұрын

PSI=MPH GPM=CFM OR CFM>MPH or GPM>PSI Edit: after watching the video. Seams like most blowers are around 150 MPh or less. in most cases CFM IMO is king but it the Toro’s case the higher MPH helps.

@imjoshv 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@ghostofmanitou6864 2 жыл бұрын

I have the Toro 700 (the fat nozzle one in the video) And use it for the yard and for drying my Goldwing. My thinking is that a higher CFM is more important for drying a motorcycle and that a higher MPH would increase the likelihood of driving water into places it shouldn't be on my bike like the speaker grills and controls.

@kevincarter3423 Жыл бұрын

Bigger diam. nozzle = more volume smaller diam. nozzle = more speed Comparing apples to apples. At least one of them blows more than it sucks. That's the one to choose.

@jonahmian5251 2 жыл бұрын

The husquavarna has higher cfm than the toro F700 does and high mph than the toro 51619 does.

@diazinc462 9 ай бұрын

crazy how only 2 years ago it was $56 now it's $99

@imjoshv 9 ай бұрын

I remember when they were about 70 but I missed out on the 56

@MRUISBIG Жыл бұрын

Leaf blower, for drying your car, I would've rather do a comparison with an air cannon much more comfortable to work with rather than lifting a heavy leaf blower over your head when you can just use the cannon`s plastic hose.

@bobbydigital1747 Жыл бұрын

Ego is still king

@WhenImGoneCa Жыл бұрын

Cfm is where it's at. I vet the mph rating is how fast the motor shaft is turning, who cares I want my cfm!

@koreywilliams4570 Жыл бұрын

I might get the ego 765 or what ever it is. Think it's 200 mph 760 cfm or something like that.

@valdaviper1 Жыл бұрын

i was about to do that but $90 vs $300 is a tough sell. On top of that, Toro sells a $50 basic black one that looks exactly like the one my folks have had for 20 years. Such a long work life is pretty darn good. My battery operated vacuums and roombas barely last 5 years.

@jonahmian5251 2 жыл бұрын

To find the best leaf blower go with the huquavarana 150bt backpack leaf blower because the cfm is high and the mph is high to it blowes up to 270 mph and 765 cfm. I think the cfm does not matter more than the mph to me I think they both really matters to me because both cfm and mph really matter to me. Try using that to dry your cry and cleaning out your garden and your deck.

@ericfranke1637 2 жыл бұрын

I own the same corded Toro leaf blower with the high MPH. In my experience, it just blasts the water into ever smaller drops which dry onto the car faster. I quit using it for the car 10-15 years ago because it looked terrible up close.

@Gave-rf1hr Жыл бұрын

So its not a good idea to use a blower as it makes paint look worsd ?

@ericfranke1637 Жыл бұрын

@@Gave-rf1hr it might be fine if you're using distilled or RO water. Just guessing

@Gave-rf1hr Жыл бұрын

@@ericfranke1637 if using hard water what about using leaf blower first then finish with a damp drying towel?

@ericfranke1637 Жыл бұрын

@@Gave-rf1hr no. You need to prevent air drying. The blower will speed up drying, so use a towel.

@Gave-rf1hr Жыл бұрын

@@ericfranke1637 makes sense , thanks bro

@alsmith7316 3 жыл бұрын

How did you know I was in the market for a new blower?

@imjoshv 3 жыл бұрын

Haha lucky timing

@carbar3936 2 жыл бұрын

CFM is cubic feet per minute.

@michlin688 Жыл бұрын

High CFM wins. Clearly

@johnnyc5587 Жыл бұрын

you SHOULDVE INCLUDED A LEAF BLOWING COMPARISON.

@1stfrompuertorico568 3 жыл бұрын

1st

@imjoshv 3 жыл бұрын

☝️☝️

@blueb4829 2 жыл бұрын

Even the weakest leaf blower on the market can blow water off a car.

@imjoshv 2 жыл бұрын

Thats true, but the more air flow speeds things up considerably. As a professional, time is money!! But not as important for diyer. Thanks for watching!

@blueb4829 2 жыл бұрын

@@imjoshv Thanks. I bought the Toro F700 yesterday and just used it for leaves. It's very powerful.