*ADAM*

What made the biggest impression on me in DE:HR was when i menaged to save the pilot. I mean she literally says you HAVE to leave her and in practically every other game you would have no choice, but here you could still save her (even if it's really hard to pull off)

If you SHOOT the gas at the bomb it stops????? DAMN! I've played this game a LOT of times and i never thought about that!

On the contrary, failing to save the eight people or the hostage locks you out of a sidequest where you meet them at their apartment, and reward you on a discount with one of the merchants.

The soundtrack is amazing.

Failure as a teaching tool is an interesting thing to put in a game. It seems more common to put scripted failures in for purely narrative reasons.

I was more impressed when Prichard smugly called me Gandhi for not killing terrorists in that missions.

>Deus Ex - The Mission you are Supposed to Fail >it's not about how you have to avoid going out the window or paul will die

I just ran up to Zeke and did a non lethal takedown after saving the hostages of course. Everyone loved me after that.

The Zeke thing is easy on PC since you can actually aim.

I love every bit of this game, and this mission (and later the "thing" with the biochip upgrade) is the two better examples of how this game was made with respect to its players. When you said to me a video game is "mature" and "for adults" I expect things like this, events or ideas made intelligently, put there for you to think and reason and above else, for you to take its story seriously. When this kind of things happen is when you can tell this game was made not only for the economic side, it´s a labor of passion for the brand and for the universe of this fiction. Very good video @Orange Lightning, keep them coming! :)

I actually saved the hostage in my first try since I use the vents. But damn Joise took me a while.

I'm wondering how Cyberpunk 2077 will be something similar like this. Too bad there will be people who'll get/have Cyberpunk 2077 and hate DE franchise. Because fans, ofc.

Thank you for this video, it brought back memories of when I first played it. DXHR left a very strong impression, needless to say.

I just explored around since it was the tutorial, and didn't felt any guilty as the hostages died as I thought they were meant to die anyway... Until now, it's kinda feels weird to learn that there was a way to save them. Thanks

I'm deaf. Can you please upload your speaking script to the captioning tool so KZfaq can automatically pair the script with the speaking times with its speech recognition engine?

That was an ingenious move from the devs, because it goes against every single established trope of sandbox RPGs. While most of them have some sort of main goal that paints a sense of urgency on the game (stop an apocalypse, exact vengeance, find your dad/son, etc), but then turns around and throws a whole box of monkey wrenches into it. After introducing the main story, the game usually shoves a trove of tutorials, arbitrary side-missions, quests and gameplay mechanics in your face, plus a huge open world. Not only do these games flood you with intentional distractions, entice you to explore with clever world design and scripted set pieces, but even if you want to go straight for the goal sometimes the game outright drops the anchor on the main story until you completed enough of the side-stuff, and only then it'll let you pick it up again (like basically all Bethesda games)...for a while. These tactics do make the game varied, so you don't get bored of being railroaded on the main quest, but it also destroys quite a bit of immersion and invalidates the motivation of the protagonist. When you can spend literal weeks and months in-game with basically just screwing around without any consequences to the supposedly incredibly time-sensitive main plot, it just negates any sense of urgency. "Sure, I'll go search for my kidnapped son and the killers of my wife...BUT FIRST, oooh shiny" With Human Revolution, like most people, I failed the first mission spectacularly for this exact reason, because, like so many times before, I thought the game wanted me to explore, to learn about the world and do side stuff before I picked up the main story. When you get dropped into the compound, there's the stealth/loud/lethal/non-lethal tutorial with obviously purpose made map sections to teach you the basics. So, as usual, I took my sweet time silently hunting down all the baddies, didn't want to mess up my fresh silent run, obviously. Little did I know what I was in for... suddenly the radio crackled to life and I was bluntly told the hostages are all dead....and it's all my fault for faffing about... I still remember the shock, the dread and the sadness. It was the first time in a long time, when I actually felt embarrassed for not taking the game seriously. I felt, that I somehow failed the game itself. They did tell me it was urgent, but how was I supposed to know it was _urgent_ urgent. I thought "damn, I actually need to pay attention to what the game tells me". I was so much under the effect of what transpired, that I completely forgot it was a video game and I could just reload and try again. It was a genuine teaching moment. I felt just like when I was scolded by my parents as a kid. I went on and suffered the consequences of my actions and vowed not to make the same mistake again. And damn right, the next time I was told something was urgent, I was on the ball like a hawk. "I'll be damned if I'm gonna let any more innocent people die because I was hunting for collectibles". I don't think I was this immersed in any other game before...

"The area you wind up in is a labyrinth where you can easily lose the guards..." Literally just four short hallways in a square formation. What are you even smoking, son?

Always played pacifist and deus ex's paths usually lead you to side quests and interesting locations.

This is one of the few games that really lived up to expectations. I was stoked for it's release ever since it was announced. I could easily have been very disappointed, but it's still one of my favorite games of all time.

No idea how I stumbled on this video, but thoroughly enjoyed it! Great job man!

This was really well made - well edited, concise, and entertaining - keep up the great work!

What a brilliant essay. An amazing point, well done. Nice editing too.

While I liked Deus Ex Human Revolution I feel like I was never really that invested into that whole "safe my girlfriend" and "revenge" storyline. I've been playing some of the original Deus Ex lately and I immediately got more invested into that story. It just feels more believeable and down to earth to me.

Glad you remastered this one - there was always something odd with the narration. The way you do it now is hella professional!

My favorite part was saving Malik

This is a brilliant channel, glad I found it when I did. Keep it up man.

This game was easily paramount to Half-Life in terms of it's contribution to the gaming industry. Too bad other developers didn't pick up on the shear beauty of this piece of art like they did for Half-Life. I guess it's just quantity over quality these days......

The first mission in DX:HR teaches the player that: - Mission areas are linear (true for 90% of all missions) - Objectives can be timed (not true for all other missions) - There are multiple ways to solve problems: lethal, stealth, hacking (not true, because...) - Maximal XP is gained by knocking out everyone and hacking everything. (Very true!) The first mission in DX teaches the player that: - Mission areas are non-linear (true for 90% of all missions) - Objectives aren't timed (true for all other missions) - There are multiple ways to solve problems: lethal, stealth, hacking (true, because...) - Skill points are awarded for completing objectives, not for how you complete them. (Very true!)

_"The game proper starts when it drops you in Sarif Industries. The big man himself tells you that there's a hostage situation and people's lives are at stake but this is your first opportunity to explore the world."_ This really bugged me about the game. The level itself is encouraging you to explore it, but everyone IN the level is telling you to "hurry up and get to the helipad to deal with the hostage situation." This level should have been saved for *after* the hostage mission, just like in the original _Deus Ex_ game.

I love this, I'm subbing. Love the eagerness and humour!

This was beautiful. Thanks for making this.

who the hell picks the stun gun instead of the tranq rifle

Holy shit. My first walkthrough I actually saved the hostages (air vents, I'm an Alien fanboi) and talked Zeke out of taking Josie hostage. The last one felt counterintuitive, but actually favoured me later on.

This was fantastic, great work!

I never asked for this...but this video was awesome and brought back so many great Deus Ex memories! Well done

My biggest gripe with this game is that it kinda strongarms you into playing stealthily and nonlethaly with not much incentive for anything else. If you choose to play lethally and loudly you miss out on a lot of creds and hence upgrades which kind of defeats the purpose of choosing your own approach to the levels. A better way would be something akin to Jak 3, where the more you used the "light" powers, the more you could upgrade them, and the more you used the "dark" powers the more you could upgrade them.

Nice one @Orange Lightning I'm new here, I'm curious to see what other insightful reviews you have in the works.

Awesome video man, very insightful

I must be a dying breed of gamer. Was no scrounging. Did not lost hostages. Rescued Jossie. Just talk to Zeke like a normal person who is scared and trapped. Offer him a way out and obtain concessions from him ( Jossie ).

1:33 Other way around. Ted caught Andrea with her hand in the "perverbial cookie jar". Reread the email and the one that alludes to it from Andrea's computer.

Great content

Oh so that's how the mission is supposed to go! I usually just walked off the rooftop and died and thought that was the ending. Good walkthrough.

This is a really good format for a teaser/presentation.

Ah, love me some Deus Ex. However, Mankind Divided was...not what I expected. I mean, SE gave them the resources this time around and I feel it missed the mark. I'm thinking Cyberpunk will be my new passion. Great video. Most enjoyable.

Hey Orange, great video - I like your format and as such I'm happy to subscribe! Just curious, have you had any experience with the TimeSplitters/Second Sight games? Would be interested to hear your take on Free Radical's output.

Putting this in my 'deep dive video' playlist and subscribed. This video is exactly why I fell in love with this game. The atmosphere and the dialogue that the world gives us and the importance of paying our attention to it are fun. Having that neuron fired in your brain when you're in a situation and think on the spot, having a 'what if' moment and see if it could affect the story in any way is incredible. I have a moment after failing multiple times with the Zeke hostage dialogue, and then I just thought "What if I shoot him, but faster?" And I was surprised it actually works. A lot of these moments do happen in the game and I had fun every single time.

I'm surprised at the relatively low sub count, this video was excellent - polished and professional, great analysis and passionate delivery. I'd love to see more content like this. Got yourself another sub, best of luck.

Totally not on board with the idea that a huge percentage of players lost the hostages due to time, or even at all. Or lost Josie more than half the time. I have as much in the way of evidence as the maker of the video, but it seems absurd to me that people bombed that badly.

Who else was also able to do everything in this mission?

I really love this sort of analysis of games. Great video!

Woahhh, really happy I found your channel, you deserve way more subscribers :0

I love this game, but god damn are the character animations, especially in cutscenes, so janky. Like its like a Chicken with Tourettes Syndrome. Its incredibly off putting. You do get used to it after a while though.

XDXD so I'm one of the best? My first time playing I saved Her and the Hostages without killing anyone, and I didn't even know what I was doing.

subscribed based on seeing only this video so far. great video

DXHR is a more than worthy addition to the Deus Ex saga. It was the first game I played that allowed your foes to revive their comrades if they were merely unconscious. But this is sometimes a blessing in disguise, because you can bring the next guy to exactly where you want them to be, then take him out. I remember the 8 hostages dying because of my delay and exploration the 1st time I played, but I got the Silver Tongue bonus for convincing Zeke to go quietly and let the final hostage live.

I miss Deus Ex... Please, I want to hear the end of Adams Story...

How does this compare to Mankind Divided?

That's funny, "supposed to fail," but I never realized that those people could die if you fucked around in the office too long.

Loved this video mate, very Game Maker's Toolkit style. Subbed, will probably binge all the others :P

Nice, I liked your original and this one. I only played a little bit of Deus Ex and didn't realise there was so many outcomes in just the first level, shame it pretty much just this level that does this.

Hey when titling your video maybe you should take into account that you're talking about human revolution and not the original

Awesome video man.

Ah man, you just bring back old memories. Now i just realized its been 2 years since the last Deus Ex

Do you remember that thing with the Tower that was blocking some signal or hacking Seraph. (I can't remember) Well, basically ya also need to go there with the side mission you get from ya old cop buddy undercover as a whore. The tower is already there to be disabled. With some extra dialog. This all after that mision you just show in this vid. With that indeed if ya rescue the janitor and the wife and also knockout all enemies non lethal. with that boss guy. You all get different things, even if ya said you dont. Ya do later in the game. That first mission is like a character system in an RPG. Everything you do, will affect the rest of the game. But indeed not the endings, but the road you take to get there. There are free upgrades on the mision for pistols. With the gun of the boss being a strong one later in the game. Or you can let em go and get some info later in the game, Or indeed save stun him and find him in jail. You say that this first mission has stuff totally non important to endgame. Yet you forget it is full of stuff that influence the road to it. But indeed it is filled with a lot of choices. Also, after ya take down or let go the boss, you can walk back and get all the loot. Like really, all of it. Except the ones from the terrorists. So, indeed again. That mision is BIG.. But as I say, its like an RPG, to make your version of jenson come out, to take the road to endgame.

I still prefer the first game

Hey I’m a huge fan of the deus ex series, and I totally agree with what you said about being attentive about the dialogue and environment. Really enjoyed the video!

I’m relentless when it comes to completing objectives almost like a terminator

Honestly I think this highlights all the negative aspects of the game. It teaches you rush into every main quest, tells you that you have side content that you'll never get to do, and criticizes you for killing anyone, or if you do the side content, or if you take your time, or if you think. So in summery, the game wants you rush into everything, ghost, and ignore all the side content. It also shows off it's unbelievable dialog and bad writing.

Supposed to fail? Hardly. Finding the hostages is very easy, you have to be very unlucky or extremely disinterested to miss them. As for the waiting too much bit; most players assume the introduction to the game isn't over yet (since you just got a HUD) so they skip exploring the building. Those who do also may postpone doing the side mission since it's fairly obvious you have to do the main mission first. Overall, it's very unlikely for someone to fail this mission. Your title is a hyperbole.

How come i never heard of this channel before? This was a really well made video.. You deserve way more subscribers, so I'll help and subscribe myself.

This is an excellent video. I checked your sub count thinking you'd have 100k and I see you have 5k. Your channel will grow much larger with content like this.

You talk about Deus Ex but keep showing Human Revolution gameplay.

Deus Ex: Mankind Divided The Game you are Supposed to Complete in under 1 Hour...

6:11 glad you are putting those cybernetics to good use jeez :D good vid in any case.

Really good video!

"This first mission is so good!" Not really. I understand it's significance, giving you a sense of urgency and making you take your time to iron out the details. But it lacks any player freedom. You want to explore because you don't know if you can do it again after saving the hostages or even if you'll see the same content. You want to go in guns blazing, but you can't because the hostages will die. You want to take your time and find a safe way to the hostages but you took too long so the hostages died. You want to play the game your way but you can't because the game wants you to play it the way it wants you to play it. The later Deus Ex games are really hamfisted about forcing you into corners and it annoys me. I only played the first mission of the most recent one, Mankind Divided, and it was everything I hate. I wasn't allowed to do what I want, just what the game wants. If I approached the game with my own mentality then shit hit the fan. In contrast; MGSV, a massive sandbox, has SO much more you can do. Its missions are usually time gated, but you have time to explore. You can go in guns blazing usually and you can play the game how you want. The more recent Deus Ex games have been such pissy examples of gaming. Why make a game about forcing players down a path but also they choose to only partially not follow that path but if they skew too far then you're screwed. Tl;dr I don't like Deus Ex anymore because decisions I make are driven by how the game wants me to interact with it. I can sort of make the game mine by doing a mission slightly differently from the next player, but none of the decisions are ones I can make to influence the game in a drastic way. You pretty much play the game the exact same way as hundreds of other players before you have and that's the only way to play it.

Never understood the hype behind this game, the gameplay in my opinion was super clunky and tight, meh at best

The game where quick saves are your best friend

I never saw this! Wow, I always went on time, never once thought to go late to see what happened!

You know human revolution isn't the first in the series right? Stop calling it Deus ex, you're talking about the third game and i keep thinking your talking about the first because you wont use the goddamn subtitle.

Easier to kill zeke if you're not a console peasant.

You forgot to point out the best part: You get a discount at Seurat's shop if you manage to save Josie and the hostages. The game doesn't give you a quest marker if I remember correctly, but one of the hostages will call you and give you a building and apartment number. Totally easy to miss if you aren't listening to the call and a cool little detail. Josie will even have different dialogue depending on if you talked the hostage free or killed him. Human revolution is such a cool game. Damn shame Mankind Divided didn't hit the sales goals and the series is effectively on ice...

Deus ex hr has to be one of my favorite games in because it gave you so many choices and made you feel like you are in control (and it's my phone home screen)

I love the Deus Ex reboot, both have great atmosphere, draw you into their worlds, make you make choices, and through level design, dialogue and tidbits left around give you a great sense of place in the world. I also like how stealth is rewarded but it doesn't stop you from going guns blazing, especially at the end.

That intro was badass!

It's interesting being reminded of my first few times playing this. These days I can normally go through the whole first mission, knocking out all the enemies, saving everyone, finding the secret room with the Deus Ex 1 style stealth pistol, and not being detected.

Great video !

Played this game through like 5 times. Never even saw those hostages or that bomb before. Time for another okay through. Good vid

When I first play this game, I noticed there are so many details on it and in that time I know I have pay attention to many things, so i look at my computer, see the same email like you did and went to start my detective mode, i thought i am doing something good for helping the company but then it is a lose end, and I failed to save the hostages. At that point I start learnt that really everything matters on this game. Dialogue, environment, even the choice to save your partner life in the later session are matters. It's the first immersive sims game I played and it's the best. Thx for the video!

There are very interesting parallels between Human Revolution and the first Deus Ex in how they use their first missions to teach the player about the gravity of their decisions and the respect they should have for the game world. You note that there are two kinds of player who are likely to get funneled into a failure of the hostage rescue objective in Human Revolution -- the kind who ignore what the "main story" is telling them in favor of exploring the game world at their leisure, and the kind who just blindly follows objective markers without really paying much attention to their environment. Both of these groups have been conditioned by other games that reward them for falling into these habits, both of which turn out to be a deliberate trap in HR's first mission. You also discuss how the confrontation with Zeke cautions players to think carefully before they speak and weigh the likely outcomes, rather than assume that the game will cater to their freedom to make purely cosmetic choices. Deus Ex was facing a similar challenge in bringing its audience into its game world back in 2000. Fans of contemporary shooters were accustomed to a "shoot first, ask questions later" style of gameplay, and in many cases would expect to be able to skip over dialogue entirely. When the player gets up to the top of the Statue of Liberty and encounters the terrorist leader Leo Gold, they'll be surprised to find him immediately surrender. However, if they spam the spacebar in dialogue, they'll pick the threatening option, which Ion Storm deliberately set as the first dialogue choice as a trap for players who aren't paying attention. This option forces Leo into a (likely deadly) confrontation which will ultimately lead to the player being chastised by their handler, their brother, and their boss (you can also allow Leo to escape and the game has a distinct response for it). Moreover, the player's options look fairly similar to one another; "Except send YOU back to the people -- in a body bag", and "Tell me about the shipment and I'll order the troops to pick you up as a prisoner instead of a corpse". Both imply a threat of lethal force but only one of them, if read carefully, clearly offers Leo a peaceful resolution. There's also a parallel in that DX's first mission also has an optional side objective involving a hostage, which the player can easily miss if they take the sneaky route in and continue up the obvious path to the top of the statue rather than going back down and tackling the more substantial challenges on the ground floor. Though there's no objective marker guiding them to the critical path, their handler will actually tell them that they're on the right track and can freely ignore the side objective if they keep going, which is as good a reason as any to plow ahead rather than turn back. You could also draw a parallel between the SWAT officer who offers valuable mission intel in HR and Harley Filben in DX, who the player is told to look for on the North dock for a key to the statue and some tips, since both could be easily ignored by a less inquisitive player. The roots of HR's first mission design that you've articulated can be firmly seen in DX's first mission, and it's clear that Eidos Montreal was looking to make a similar statement to its players about how they should approach the game. Both impress upon the player that they shouldn't treat the experience like "just another game", and give it the respect they'd give a dangerous situation in real life. Arguably DX does a better job following up on this promise, but... that's a topic for another day ;) BTW, I liked that you redid this video with a far superior voiceover, though I miss some of the editing of the original version. Particularly the Ferris Bueller "Oh Yeah" track when exploring Sarif HQ (ending in a brilliant "Chikachika!" after we hear the bad news), and some of the image/text gags you included before. Oh well, glad you're getting more attention for this (Also, holy shit another person who loves In Bruges! Will check out your other videos for sure).

People wonder why this is possibly my favourite game. Once you look beyond the surface, even though its amazing at a glance, you notice how much detail and effort went into some of the gameplay, narrative and levels.

i just wanna point out, i did not access jensen's computer until i finished the first mission at the plant. but after several plays, i suggest you take the long range non lethal weapon (tranquilizer rifle), sneak your way to the lower floor by the right stairs and access the vent. this leads to a ventilation shaft you can climb to the higher platform, exit from there and you will be at the steel beams at the ceiling. crouch from there to the other end while sniping everyone, one by one (do try to headshot the furthest enemy as 1st target then aim at the body on the second target as he approached. this ensures this action loops as the second your second target knocked out, the next enemy will follow to try check up on them. word of advice, careful to time your first attack to not trigger any of three enemies standing right below your feet.

I don't normally comment or like videos I come across hap-hassidely, but good job man, I enjoyed the video.

fantastic video

This was just one of the many reason this game stuff with me so much. To this day, it is one of my favorites of all time. There was true passion and love put into this game, and it shows all over.

TIL: Being bad at a game = Designed to fail

3:27 Even when I clear out the room, it wasn't until just last time when I replayed it that I ended up paying close attention and learning where the bomb was. I had passed by it so many times. Now I not only figured out where it was, but I also had the bomb's deactivation code. Every other time before I had failed it (about three times) and completed the mission without rescuing the other hostages. The effects of this is never learning about the other merchant in Detroit, even if you save the last hostage during the persuasion scenario.

I apprecite this

+Orange Lightning - Subbed! Awesome video! Cover some more of this franchise please, especially the first game. This is the kind of analytical video i'd expect from Mark Brown and not many others here on KZfaq. Very happy to be an early sub to this channel and see for 3 months you've been making great videos. Please keep up the excellent work. Greetings and love from Australia.