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Was wondering why I couldn’t buy any bessey clamps. Spencer owns them all.

Thanks Spencer I have had my 780 for 5 years and it just keeps on running!

I’m with you always have had good luck with dewalt tools love your channel lots of good information from a professional carpenter

Thank you for taking the time to make another informative video. I recently purchased the Gen 2 12” Delta Cruzer. So many people told me not to because of the deflection. I found that not to be the case at all. I actually found more deflection on the Festool due to the awkward unnatural position your wrist needs to be in when making cuts.

I bought the 780 2+ years ago based on your recommendation. It’s a great machine. The value can’t be beat.

Great review. Seems great carpenters are becoming more popular these days and finally getting recognized. Read a report a few months back that skilled trades are making a comeback in the wage war due to many retiring or passing away. Been a carpenter my entire life. I'm 57 now and although there were some lean times, I wouldn't trade being a carpenter for any job. Would love a segment of your handmade saw stand wings. I have the 779 with the light kit from Dewalt added on and the same Dewalt saw stand but dislike the narrow platform. Your setup looks spot on. A video on that stand and jobsite set up would be much appreciated.

Best review of the Dewalt 780 I have seen! I just subscribed to your channel! Thanks again for the taking the time to do the video review.

Thanks for the video! I have my Kapex for 8 years now with no problems or adjustments to be made, I was using it every day at construction sites for about the first 4 years, now using the 12" Dewalt Flexvolt on a Ridgid wheeled stand daily and the Kapex for when I need to cut repetitive panel moldings or just window and door casings, love both saws, for dust collection on the Dewalt I use the Rousseau hood and the best 12" blade I found so far that works great against deflection is the CMT 90T.

I’ve had the Dewalt DWS779 for not even a month and it’s an amazing tool. The feel of it and the build, I can tell it’s going to last me years.

Thank you for putting together this video. I have been trying to decide between the Makita LS1219L and this DeWALT DWS780. I have read some reviews that some of the Makita units need to have a piece of wood placed between the rails and cranked to get the rails to align with the blade. When you consider the fact that I'd be paying $700 for a saw that needs that type of adjustment out of the box, I realized I could get the DeWALT *and* a stand for the same price and similar performance. I've seen the work you do and it makes me more confident that this saw is not just for framing - it can handle the fine finish work I will be doing.

Hello from Easton Maryland. I’m so glad you do this video. I have my miter saw 708 since 1996 and is still running well. I do some electrical wire repair and trigger repair and bushing repair just one time in each one and is still working perfectly. Last year I got the 780 and you’re perfectly right. I was looking for the best in every way and the dust collector is not perfect but is the best miter saw in the market. Tank you to share with us all your experience. Stay safe.

Spencer I’ve got the dw 708 . It’s the best saw I’ve ever had in 40 years . I calibrated it and it’s spot on in both planes . Your abs spot on what you said about the blade . Thank you

Spencer I just found and subscribed to your channel.... Fantastic work!!!! In the last 2 yrs I've got turned onto festools love them . I just bought the KS 120 REB saw about 9 months ago I hope I don't run into the same problems you had.. l replaced it with my dewalt DW705 l've still got that saw works great after 20 plus years.. l went for the Kapex saw for its dust collection hooked up to the CT26E vacuum and knew how good the quality is in everything I own festool..

Hey Spencer - I switched from the DWS780 to the Kapex this last year for the UG cart/wings and dust collection. I'm with you on the DWS780 being an incredible saw. I held out as long as I could but being primarily in a basement shop I needed the dust collection to be better. I really miss that LED shadow line though.

Great video. I have been using a DeWalt DW708 for 20+ years and it still runs and performs as it did new. I like how you discussed the issue of calibration of saws. I can agree with you on that topic 100%. My saw at some point wouldn’t cut accurate. Took it to BD/DeWalt store and had a service done on it. Turns out original fence was bent/warped. Had new fence installed and saw serviced for a fraction of the cost of a new one back then. Just completed a interior board and batten job for my own house and my saw did everything I wanted and expected it to do. No real need to go out and buy another saw at this time. One last note, definitely purchase the best saw blades that can be resharpened. The cost to have them resharpened is very affordable in most parts of the country. Thanks again.

Great video! I was strongly considering the DeWalt but ended up getting the new Kapex mostly because it came with an angle transfer device. But for real I chose the kapex for the dust collection and all the other positive things you said about it. My Makita 10” is awesome and so is my baby DeWalt 7 1/4 but both of them don’t have the dust collection I’m looking for, even when hooked up to a vacuum.

You're awesome my guy! I really appreciate all your content.

I also tend to agree with your take on Festool. They make precision tools that accomplish the tasks they were designed to accomplish (at a staggering price) but they don't seem to be rugged enough to withstand real world use. Back in 2008 I had a job replacing several doors in a carpeted office building and had to set up in the hallway. Knowing how much sawdust my Porter Cable 126 planer spews out I thought I would try the Festool H 850 E planer (at the time $560) and the CT-22 dust extractor (at the time $520 plus $200 for a permanent cloth bag) to contain the dust. I must say that I was stunned at how well the dust extraction worked at containing the mess but in the subsequent years the dust extractor has literally self destructed due to how brittle the plastic they used is. The planer is excellent, and I still use it to this day and I still can use the dust extractor but it has several chunks missing and none of that damage is as a result of abuse from me. I don't think the saying. "you get what you pay for" really applies to Festool. I don't mind paying an exorbitant price for a tool as long as it is, by far, the best tool available. In the case of Festool I think it's more mystique than reality. BTW: To replace that setup today I would have to pay $733 for the planer and $1,045 for the dust extractor with cloth bag. By comparison in 2013 I paid $593 for my DWS780 sliding compound miter saw; today it would set me back $645......a little bit different rate of inflation. All prices include sales tax

Thanks for showing all the pros and cons for the saws and helps in making decision for purchasing best saw for the buck.

Just picked one up last week when the motor on my 12" Flexvolt gave up the ghost. Looking forward to using your other videos to tune up the new 780. Thanks man!

Took your advice on the 780 last summer and have been happy with the results. Now just need amazon to start selling some of your stealth wings.

When I chose a dewalt slider a decade ago it was mainly because compared to other brands the stand was lightyears ahead (it collapsed tightly, had twice as much extension on the supports etc). I also thought there might be an advantage to having the rails/sliders in the "closed" position when cutting right next to the fence (I.e. cutting base vertically, potentially less deflection with the rails closed). Good video Spencer thanks for the link to the tall fence too!

Great saw. I have mine 14 years and still as good as anything on the market

I just bought the 780, Thank you for a very informative video

I have the DWS790 and agree with everything said in this video (including the need for better dust collection 😉)

Hi boss , I was having issue with dust collection. I purchased a rousseau 5000 dust hood . It works awesome for working in finished areas . Thx for the info on the saw blade .

Great review and appreciate the knowledge base and comparing with other saws

I love my dewalt saw and stand.. It works great and I have had it for several years.

i do have a vacuum hooked up to my DW780 and i feel it gets a lot of the dust. Then add the hood from fast cap and you can cut inside a lived in house. Great video!! preaching to the choir.

Great vid, thanks for sharing. Have been running a DW717 for a while now and was cleaning my blade today and noticed the cast arm is actually cracked! Could not believe it and they no longer make that part. Been looking at this as a replacement for it.

I am glad i went with the DeWalt 780, I love it!

I have been running my 780 daily for 14 years and its still going strong. replaced bearings 2 years ago but thats it

Great presentation! Very well embased. Congratulations and thanks a lot! It will help me very much!

I am not a big Dewalt fan but I do own and love my 780. It is a beast.

Thank you for making this video. I abhor those who make purchases (especially for their business) that are based upon the Gucci factor, You know, the guys with the $70,000 pickup "work" trucks that have bed covers and no lettering (or worse: illegible fancy lettering) to muck it up. You know the same guys that purchase $400 coolers that weigh more empty than most others when full and $40 matching coffee mugs...sorry, you got me going. I have owned 2 Dewalt DWS series and I feel the same way. One is 8 years old and has the same zip as when new. I love your pragmatic approach to life and business; may the thinker (as opposed to the impulsive "feeler") always prevail. God Bless you and your family.

Yep, love my 780. Today I bought DCS361 7-1/4-in (184mm) cordless sliding compound miter, bought it for flooring so I can keep it right there on the floor with me.

I agree with all he says. One other point I'd like to add is that the blade guard is great. You can hold it with your trigger hand to keep it out of the way for accurate cuts. The Kapex runs on the inside and gets in the way at times.

Excellent. Just bought a 779. Making me want that 780 now though!

Bought a 779 and found a light kit for an additional $75 a few months back. It is heavier but I use a rolling stand so the weight isnt an issue for my applications. I’m very happy with the performance, savings over the 780 and overall quality.

I have a DWS780 and a Bosch 12'' with the front levers, I like them both

Awesome video from someone who uses it everyday all day...

Very informative thank you. I wish I had seen this before I bought a Bosch axial.

Good work! Another excellent video!

I bought the 779, as I did not see the light being worth $100 to me. But beyond happy with the saw. Much better than the Delta Cruzer it replaced.

Here's someone really on the field 👏🏾

Very thorough and detailed review. I'm also a fan of 12" blades and Dewalt MS. For my workflow, I go with non-slider, relying on track saw when wider cuts are necessary. I also believe (superstitiously?) that non-slider is less prone to deflection by design. That said, if I still did much stair work, a slider would also be my choice.

Great video , filled with great info ....

I like the DWS780. Just a note, I have an older Dewalt 12" miter that did not come with a light. I found that Dewalt sells an optional light for mine model and it works great!

Love my 780...Great saw and powerful with accuracy.. Xps light is the best.. But... Its very heavy and cumbersome.. So I use it on larger jobs preferably on the ground floor.. I use my makita 36v 190mm saw on small jobs as its lightweight but powerful.. Good review, thanks.

Excellent review

Dewalt 780 hands down the best I’ve used my for 6. Years and calibration only twice Aside from the tweet here or there after changing out a new blade or something the best songs ever heads down I agree with you Spencer

My favorite saw. Been trimming for over a decade. Second favorite it a Jet. Far superior bevel lock mechanism to dewalt but green laser gets covered by sawdust and must constantly be cleaned.

I'm on my 3rd 779. I absolutely love them and I don't know a single other carpenter in my orbit using anything but a 779/780. They are just literally the best miter saw for the money on the market. The only thing I don't like is having to reach behind to bevel. I wish it was up front like the Bosch. It's the only thing I don't like about the saw but given the huge vertical cut capacity I don't bevel often.

I have the same saw and I love it. Thanke brother

The 12" Dewalt slider saw is the answer for large crown or base moldings cutting vertical or flat. We commonly use them on commercial jobs. If you have the touch and patience, the stock blade will work.

Thank you for your help this information is very important for me thanks 👍

Hi just a word on the Kapex motor situation; I was at the last AWFS show in Vegas and talked with a German factory rep at the Festool booth and voiced my concerns about the weak motor on my Kapex and all reported motor failures. He handed me a piece of 8/4 oak and said try the new Kapex with motor upgrade. I did and I can tell you what a difference. It didn't bog down at all. He also told me that since my saw was still under warranty, to send it back and Festool would replace the motor with the new upgraded one at no cost. They did and now I'm much happier. Like you said though, time will tell!

Awesome miter, just planning to get it 👍

My 23 year old Dewalt 12” miter saw is still going strong. The 1st gen is perfection in a miter saw. I have used the newer versions and they don’t compare. Honestly you need to find an older saw and try it out you will understand the difference. Words from 45 years as a trim carpenter.

I've already got one of these and agree on every point

With dust collection I use the Rousseau 5000 mitersaw dust hood and it works great for me. You should try it.

After watching your video I pulled the trigger on the 780. I’m planning on using it only for diy stuff so it’s probably an overkill, but it’s nice to know that I can use it for pretty much anything. I can’t even count how many times I purchased lesser of a tool and then regretted it due to its limitations.

Love love love my 716xps. I went with that vs the 779 at the time for the best I could afford without the size concerns and weight. I am very happy with it. It is a beast for sure lol

I've been using the 780 since about 2012. It's my workhorse. I agree that the heavier blades are no problem for this saw. I've not even considered another saw. Great video.

Already have it! Woo woo!

That is 100% absolutely true. You have to calibrate a saw right out of the box no matter what kind it is. Even if it was perfect from factory, think about the shipping and handling and it banging around over thousands of miles.

*Welcome back*

I had the flexvolt version which was rugged and accurate. I just couldn't handle the dust collection issues due to the nature of my work. I tried the "new" kapex but straight out of the box it was damaged. Swapped it out, another one damaged. Walked away after having my hands on 2 different kapex saws in a week. Can't pay that and have to replace parts on day one. Now, running the Milwaukee 12" and 7-1/4" depending on the job. The dust collection is a huge step up from the dewalt and I really can't say enough about how I love the lightweight aspect. My 12" weighs about 47 lbs and the 7-1/4 is something silly like 28lbs. I will say I miss how my dewalt stayed calibrated. For whatever reason I feel like that saw only needed a checkup once a month. The milwaukee, I definitely check it every job and commonly need a small shift.

Thanks man for the insite and tips Mouse

Great review!

Love those saws.

There’s a channel called the building guru that has a fantastic tutorial series on how to make that 780, 100% machine square. I have a bit of a testimony with this saw cabinet installing with it for 7 years. In my opinion the 780 is perfectly accurate for trim and general carpentry. It took me a lot of effort to do many high skilled jobs but I got a ton of great work done with it, and there’s plenty to like about it. I loved the light on it but found it useless as a blade indicator because the shadow isn’t hardly even visible from full extension and not crisp until the blades basically touching the work piece so I don’t consider the 780 to be equipped with a blade indicator at all imo. I went through 4 of the 780’s in 3 weeks just taking them home, setting them up and finding the fence and/or base was twisted out of plane, so the blade couldn’t be squared to both sides of the fence. After going through all 4, I found they all had the same fence wing issue, and while taking them off and sanding them down perfectly flat (in plane) I found the channels they slide in were machined out of plane, so even after machining the fences flat, as soon as I adjusted either one out a bit, left/right, they were out plane again so it wasn’t possible to totally fix that issue no matter what. Also, after finding this issue in all 4, in 3 weeks the rep said he wouldn’t exchange me another saw, and the Bosch and Makita’s at the time had noticeable issues of their own that I didn’t want to deal with, so I just stuck it out with the 780. After going through the rest of the saw I found that while the centre base was relatively in plane to the side bases, it went out of plane when moved left or right, so again it was a problem that could not be fixed because the platform the Center base sits on was out, so even when I machined all 3 bases to be in plane while at 0°, it would go out of plane to the left and right. That’s 2 separate issues that could not be totally fixed. So I basically had to resort to drawing a square line or whatever angle I needed on every piece I needed high accuracy on, and just tried to follow it. As unfortunate and shitty as it was, it was possible and I made it work for years. I found out years later that the 780 was made in Mexico and another country so I assumed the one factory was just phoning it in for a cpl years, because I found both of those issues in 5 other new saws after that, totalling 9 saws, including my cousins new 780 he bought 2000 miles away and a year after I got mine. Either way, moral of the story must be #NotAll780s and #NotAllKapex lol because I had just as shit of an experience with the 780 as you had with the Kapex, and now am just as happy with my new Kapex as you are with the 780. Although I do wish the less expensive saw that worked out for me. Lol

Awesome breakdown between the 2, but I am still not sure which one I want/need :) Either way I go, the saw will definitely have the XPS light, bc that is just a great addition.

Thanks for giving us your deep dive into your saws. Your speaking ability behind the camera has really grown. What are your thoughts about the Bosch and the Delta articulated arm saws for use in construction?

Best breakdown out there. Also I believe it’s micrometer not caliper. Thanks for the breakdown, I know what I’ll be getting!

i have the DWS779 and i love it. next time i will buy the 780 just for the light. my employer owns a few of the new Bosch 12" miters and they're really good. although i do like the ergonomics of the Dewalt much better and that's probably just because I'm so used to it.

Great info as usual. I own an older dewalt. Idk if it's a 779 or older. It's 17 yrs old. Still great. Dust everywhere.. lol. I use a dust hood when needed. But I wasn't to go cordless and foward sliders

@12:15 Initially, I thought the XPS was a gimmicky thing *UNTIL* I used it. Then I was a convert. And like a lot of miter saw, the dust collection could be better. I just slapped some plastic wings on the L/R of the base and it improved considerably.

Love this saw!

Thanks Spencer, I have been trying to figure out all the different model numbers. I have to replace mine, it's 20 years old and I have ran it into the ground. But I will say it has not only cut trim with it but loads of framing lumber, timber post, and don't yell at me but aluminum handrails as well. This is a big help.

As trim guys there is a reason we run the DeWalt my first slider was the 708 it was great and they just keep getting better and staying tough

Thanks for all your informative videos Spencer. I always learn something from each of them. I recently had the motor fail on my DWS780 type 1. Have you ever had any motor issues? Unfortunately my saw is about three and half years old so no longer under warranty. Even worse Dewalt no longer manufactures the "field" to repair it. I'm in the market for a new saw and a little reluctant to buy another DWS780. That said other than the motor failure it was a great saw.

I really enjoy my Bosch gcm12sd, not just for the slide but all the controls are up front, takes a second to calibrate also has a great selection of add ons.

I literally was going to ask what the difference between the 779 & 780 today! glad I have my notifications turned on for when you drop new videos!

Great Saw. I run the same saw but use 10'' blades on it. I lose some cut capacity but 10'' blades are a bit cheaper for what I need.

Great video. I personally run 706-716 and the Dewalt 10” slider. Great saws for the money. Do you have plans to do a video on job site lighting? I noticed your large 360° LED light sitting on your bench

I love everything about my Dewalt, but one feature I love the best, are the ribs on the blade guard. They allow me to use my thumb to hold the guard up while pulling the trigger. Comes in very handy when eyeballing the line sometimes... Now you have me envying your buck eighty blade!!! Guess I don't need it since I don't do production...lol

You are 100 percent honest. I own 3 dewalt saw the last 10 years. Ind I don’t think I will ouwn any ather saw . I tried Bosch. Makita. Festol. Hitachi. Miter saw . None one is for me. Just Dewalt.thanks for your video so all the carpenters can see.

Great video. Ide like to also point out that the 779s motor is manufactured with lower quality parts. This is actually where they saving come from from what I've gathered.

I couldn't agree with your review more. I am a finish carpentry contractor, like you, and I landed on the same two choices for miter saws (DWS780 and DW716). The DW716 is my primary choice for a jobsite saw. It is a little lighter and takes up less real estate in the truck than the DWS780 and it can handle almost all the widths I deal with on a daily basis. I purchased the DW716 in 2011 to replace a DW706 (purchased in 2003). There was nothing wrong with the DW706, the DW716 just had enough improvements to warrant the upgrade (lever lock instead of a twist lock and the LED light). That is one of the things I like most about DeWalt tools; they are constantly evolving and improving. Back in 2000, when I first had jobs that required cutting wider material, I got the DW708 (DeWalt's first stab at sliding compound miter saws). It was a good saw but the rails were mounted vertically which tended to allow a little side to side deflection. I think there were a couple of subsequent models but in 2013 when I saw DeWalt had addressed all the shortcomings of previous models I purchased one....no regrets. I agree, the dust collection may not be the best, but it is world better than the DW708 was. After a little required tweaking on both saws the accuracy is excellent. In fact, surprisingly, the DWS780 is a shade better than the DW716. BTW: The DW716 says "made in Mexico".....for some reason that makes me feel better than "made in China". Just me, I guess. Wonder if we'll ever see "made in the USA" again? Enough rambling.

Just watched your video a few days ago. I watched another youtuber talk about the 780 as well. I just put an order in for the 780. I found it for the same price as the 779!!

I couldn’t agree more with everything you said. The contractor I work with periodically has a 780 he bought 5-6 years ago. It’s taken an absolute whooping and cut a boatload of stuff. However, you could have taken it one step further and mentioned the 12” Flex Volt version of this saw if you want to dive into the deep end of the pool. It’s hard to put a dollar value on being cord free although the AC adaptor comes with it. And, those 60 volt batteries are compatible with all the other DEWALT tools you have laying around, especially if you want to plug em in and run all day. I absolutely love mine and do not regret one penny of what it cost me.

great saw, I own one as well. I really want to see the attachment point of the table extensions. Keep up the great content

These saws have improved over the years too. I bought one when they first came out and just bought another new one. There is quite a bit of difference in the miter tables. The new one feels much more accurate and positive on the detents. I had a small piece of wood jam the blade on my old one which stopped the saw dead and caused a lot of run out on the blade. I looked at replacing the parts and it was cheaper to buy a new 779 than to replace a few parts in the arbor box on the old one. The old one is still good for rough cutting 2x4's and such, but now no good for precision work. I'm going to add the light to the 779 saw as well. If you cut dark stained trim it's hard to see the pencil marks and a light would really help there.

Great video as always. I have the same saw in shop. Flexvolt in the van. Have you used any of the new Diablo combination blades? Most everything we do gets painted. I like not having to change all the time. Put the combination on the flexvolt to start. But before I get one I'm doing a little research...

DeWALT makes the best tools. They always have. 🙏🏻👍🏻

I’m so glad you made this video! I just recently purchased this saw not too long ago and I couldn’t agree more with everything you said about it. Very easy to calibrate ( after watching your video on how to properly do so) and very smooth to handle. I also like the fact how you brought up DWS779, which I was going back and forth between the two. Like you said the only difference was the light, and the $50 difference between them. Also during the time I purchased the DWS780 the Lowe’s locations where I am we’re selling them WITH A FREE STAND!!!! So that was a no brainer !!

Good overview. Just bought a 2nd hand 780 with a rolling stand for $300. Gonna buy a nice blade for it.

We use 780s at work and they're rock solid. Only issue I have is the guys have beaten them up with carelessness and I'm almost always recalibrating them. I'll probably end up buying my own so when I go in to do trim then I won't have that issue. Definitely would love to see more dust collection on it though, because I work doing remodels and it's a bear to deal with. Also, I find the saw pretty heavy... But maybe that's cuz I'm weak.