It's pretty amazing. They managed to make the vampire season again... but 10x more boring and lame. "Oh you guys liked loot explosions? I guess that's all we need for a season, no new enemies, no vampire powers, just play the same game for 3 more months with the same enemies from when the game released a year ago dropping a pile of worthless legendaries."

Yup, I gave it a try, got to 63 and I just can't, A friend thats got more time than I do has gotten to end game, just tweaking his build, says its the exact same thing as all the other seasons, just a little faster as well everything is helltides and things drop a lot more. I've been enjoying Immortal, haven't spent a penny on the game, and i'm not a huge pvp player in these kind of games, but its been fun grinding so much to do. D4 I think should have took a few pages from Immortal especially when it comes to end game.

Locking nightmare dungeons to RNG was the most WTF idea they ever had

Blizzard has been incompetent for quite awhile, and I share your opinion on the game. I kept running past the helltide looking for something to do till I realized.. It was the only thing to do. What a waste of 40 dollars

Your bad lol

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Game so boring bro it’s honestly crazy

Well said

its still beta so give it anothr 4 season and maybe its a game then

Wait...season 6 with dlc...more 80s bucks. This is a good way lmao

Lol you forgot the dumb, mandatory set bonuses that give your basic attack a 100% chance to deal %50,000 weapon damage to the entire screen. Goddamn I hate what the "seasons" did to Diablo 3 in RoS. All build variety and player creativity destroyed by the developer's "Simon Says" approach.

With yearly expansions (that will be cancelled) that will possibly cost 60 USD, there is no chance they will ever create seasons content rich seasons. When you compare to POE, it's an absolute disgrace and a joke with what they're offering. But the activision-blizzard addicts will say its amazing.

Yeah thats my issue, leveling up glyphs os so freakin boring, all the NM dungeons have zero variety, they all feel the same, and that stupid things that follow you and blow up or blinds you is so annoying, and can't be avoided, have to do them. Its sad... I made it to 63 and about lost my mind lol

Who hurt you so bad, dont like it dont play it and get lost moran, diablo hate boy fan club

@@ignasraliuga4396 You're probably one of those Blizzard employees who was stealing the breast milk.

@@ignasraliuga4396 he has a point, the core gameplay is slow clunky and uninteresting. The visuals are desaturated rubbish. It’s just not good

agree

Also, lack of general/global chat is one of the things i hated in D4. If it has global chat it's hidden unbelievably well.

It's a farmy game.

Funny thing there is how due to level scaling the most powerful you'll ever feel is like... around level 50-70, when you have access to absurdly powerful tempers like elemental surge against low level enemies, then by the time you hit 100 and are using profane mindcages, the average casual will actually be getting destroyed by the 113 blood maiden, or taking exponentially longer to kill it. And that's just the "easy" enemies, not pits; it reeks of a very unbalanced game across the board where they are trying to retrofit huge parts of the game piece by piece. It's like a house where every room you enter is from a different century of architecture, style, and quality.

You've completely reversed how it is for me. I find the leveling process fun, but the moment you hit 100 and the xp bar turns off and there's no more paragon progression, the game becomes hollow and pointless. Maybe I just don't like "infinite monster scaling" systems like rifts & pit, but it definitely is pretty bland. All you have left is farming duriel and andariel for something that may never drop, and even if you get masterworked 12 tier, 3 greater affix uber uniques, you'll still get one shot by the pit boss mechanics that ignore all DR and stats. It's honestly sad to me how clueless Blizzard seems as a studio, largely because they fired or lost all the employees who made their past games. We panned Diablo 3 back in the day but now it looks like the better game, and all the lessons they learned from it are gone, they are actually making a worse game than D3.

@@zeriel9148 The one shot mechanics in pit are telegraphed long before they happen. The red demon spawns out the ground then you look at what the demon does and you know what is coming can avoid quite easily. The actual bosses themselves don't seem to have one shot moves except for that fat water boss that spawns puddles. You do have to focus of course, it is easy to die if you are not paying attention. Consider how long the game gives you to react to these one shots, and the fact the bosses would be a joke without them. Also it gets people into the habbit of dodging stuff instead of tanking damage being lazy, which they absolutely need to be able to beat the hardest bosses

like the cathedral in Diablo 1 ... i could play it endlessly , why a 30 year old game can be better than a game just released ?? did we change or the game design now is so shit....

Raids? This is not a mmo.

@@KarmaKahn Not raids, but those bosses existed in both Diablo 2 & 3. Pandamonium bosses. They were probably the best encounters in both games. I think it was actually a huge decline in 3 with RoS when they replaced Pandamonium bosses with greater rift faceroll.

I don't think most of the tempers are that interesting. It's just "more damage". The only ones that are vaguely interesting are ones that change how skills work or add procs, like elemental surge, but in both cases D3 did it better. Elemental surge COULD be something more dramatic like D3's proc weapons that would visibly shoot out lightning arcs and frost knives etc, meteors, yada yada. And the skill modifiers are just a lamer, number-centric version of D3's far superior rune system that was in the vanilla launch game. I'd agree it's better than loot 1.0, but only in the sense that mediocre is better than awful.

Yep. He's just looking for clicks.

Why is it a good thing to be able to get to 1-50 in one evening? That sounds like shit design to me.. the season is 3 months long, I'll be done by the end of this week :/ Awful balance, awful game design.. The D4 team is a bunch of amateurs.

@@FREAKquency000 because you have to make a new character every season. For a lot of the die-hard players this is the 4th time they’ve had to do that grind from the start again. Skipping story obviously helps but it’s still a lot to ask people to slog through that every single time. This makes that beginning section much easier. You’re able to try out different classes and get them going quickly to experiment and try new things out without having to invest so much of your time. It’s far from perfect as a new season but I’m enjoying being able to get new classes to a decent level quickly and try out different play styles. It’s made it a lot more interesting and experimental this time round for me. They definitely need to do something with tempering and they need more variety to the affixes for sure but overall there’s a lot I’m enjoying.

Yeah idk. I played for about 6 hours and after 6 hours of helltides I’m done. It’s so unbelievably boring

@@sir_quirkus7206 what do you find boring about it?

It’s funny how they say the game is for more casual players yet the paragon boards are far more complicated than d3. It’s also funny how they wanted a level cap so players can’t become too powerful yet people still find ways to 1 shot bosses. They have no idea what they want or what they’re doing imo.

There are still too many. Now we have "Damage with Two Handed Shovels against Distant Enemies when Swapping Weapons while Berserking"

The itemization changes are quite lazy tbh. The main affixes have become generic stuff like life, main stat and crit chance. The least stupid 'damage on tuesday' affixes were moved to tempering (with which most people try to get the same ~5 affixes with inc damage, life, movement speed, resource reduction etc) and with master working you want to hit the best generic affix on each item. Also, the entire crafting process and greater affix system is a copy of Last Epoch. The pointless affixes still exist, they just moved them to a less prominent spot basically. There's still crap like 'increased damage to crowd controlled enemies after shapeshifting for x seconds'.

They kind of painted themselves into a corner by pandering to the casuals with nerfs. Obviously the level 50 to 100 grind was supposed to be what keeps people playing, but now you can hit 100 in a few days while having a fulltime job on the side, so like you said, about 20 hours and you're done. It's just sad how empty D4 is, it makes D3 look good by comparison, and the things they were TRYING to do with it to set it apart and that would have it different they completely gutted by the post-release nerfs and changes in a desperate attempt to make players happy. Like... I didn't like the design, I'm not a fan of it, but it was obvious they were going for a "Dark Souls" experience with the bosses, limited HP regen, no lifesteal stat, potions matter, then they made most bosses trivial and the only challenge comes from enemy stat inflation where it's +50 levels over you, and removed any grind, rushing you to the end within a few hours. On top of that, the variance in items also disappeared, since everything just now drops item power 925 stuff, instead of it being an RNG factor. I think they're in the very ugly position of having completely tossed aside all the design philosophies they started with and developed over years of dev time, and now are left with a game where parts of it have been "updated", but lots of it is legacy cruft that doesn't fit in the new game. So it's going to take them years to just retrofit the current game's philosophy into standard shape for the entire game (i.e, look at all the stats and numbers in the game still balanced around the pre-release philosophy), and that's assuming the executives don't pull the plug and cancel development before that can happen. Considering they already announced Diablo 5 is in progress, uh yeah...

@@zeriel9148 yeah I totally agree with the long grind to 100. The problem was that the grind was just strictly a grind to 100. Simply tedious. No new unlocks, no goals. I actually really enjoy progressing by leveling. Man the game is just fundamentally shallow like I said. It's a real shame, and it's also sad. I'm playing warhammer darktide right now, and waiting for next season in deep rock galactic. 2 games I truly enjoy much more rn.

It's basically the corporate mindset in a nutshell: our players are dumb idiots who we can fool into thinking we are on the "side" of by telling them this is a game made for the hardcore fans with the art style and callbacks to original Diablo, then the core mechanics are for casuals and console players, and even they will be dissatisfied when they realize the whole game is just an excuse to shove a predatory monetization system at them and take as much from their wallets as possible.

I concur! 😂

no thats just bad design not complexity

It is good. He's just trying to be different and get clicks.