Diana Mod 36 - Shooting Test & Review

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Airguns of Alaska

Airguns of Alaska

2 ай бұрын

Here’s an up close look at my model 36 and a shooting test at 20 yds.

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@PapaTAdventures
@PapaTAdventures 2 ай бұрын
Beautiful. I just picked up my childhood guns and brought home. Daisy guns, but still nice to have. Way to keep yours with you.
@airgunsofalaska
@airgunsofalaska 2 ай бұрын
It’s so cool to handle and shoot the guns we had as kids!
@codered7453
@codered7453 2 ай бұрын
My granddad had a beautiful, huge (to me as a 6 or 7 year old kid) Diana model 34 or possibly a 350 and he had a few other guns that were hung up on a rack in his bedroom and I distinctly remember being able to go and grab any other rifle or shotgun that hung on that particular rack mostly .22s, and shotguns but I had better not touch that Diana that sat on the top rung of that rack, that one was completely off limits to me. He really cherished that rifle and now I own a 34 and I see why. Excellent video as per usual and it's good to see a video as I haven't had one of yours pop up on my feed for awhile. I've been into blackpowder stuff lately and KZfaq sends you what you what they want to.
@airgunsofalaska
@airgunsofalaska Ай бұрын
I thought I’d replied to you earlier, so weird, maybe I replied in my head? 🤣 I wouldn’t be surprised if he spent more money for his Diana over the firearms on the rack. I’m a big fan of airguns but I sometimes wonder why they are so expensive. I guess the higher end market it pretty niche?
@williamstewart6999
@williamstewart6999 2 ай бұрын
Have the same model 36. I think I paid less than $100 for it back then. It also does not have the raised scope base like the current models. I seem to remember reading those early models had a slightly shorter compression cylinder. Thanks for the review!
@airgunsofalaska
@airgunsofalaska 2 ай бұрын
Very nice! 👍 😀 I don’t remember what I paid for mine back then but it was expensive and I saved up for it. I don’t know a whole lot about the history of the model 36. Really cool learning more about it.
@charlesoutdoors2424
@charlesoutdoors2424 2 ай бұрын
Nice! I don't blame you for going with the 36 as the base 34 can be a bit plain. I found an RWS / Diana 48 in .177 at a pawn shop about 20 years ago and had to buy it. It was the first time I had seen a Germen Springer in person. Had a Air Rifle Headquarter catalog I ordered as a kid and drooled over all the nice Spring guns in it growing up. The idea of not having to pump a gun up 8-10 times, Just cock the barrel and shoot was a dream of mine back then. The 48 I bought is either a 04/ 84 or 94. The stamp is hard to read. It has several bumps and scoffs too. I bought a Gamo Shadow 1000 a few years later and realized my 48 was weak on power. Had a blown breech seal. I fixed it and put a Vortex kit in it about 7-8 years ago. Shot it a bit, but I bought any other airgun, and another, and several others and never got back to it lol. These Diana's are good solid built rifles. The break barrels and even fixed barrels had a reputation of having barrel droop. I guess it could happen with the iron sights too since the droop I think comes from the hole bored in the breech the barrel goes into. Even some HW break barrels can have droop or use too. An older gentleman on Gateway to Airguns that shoots target competitions with HW95's explained how he bent the barrels very slightly up using a fork in a tree to correct them. If you scope it and can adjust it up enough at 25-30 yards you will know. They also make mounts to correct barrel droop. I have one for my 48 just in case, but don't remember if I needed it. A Diana 460 Magnum has been on my list for for a long time. I remember they feel amazing in the hands and looks just as good. One day I'll find one at a price I can't pass up.
@airgunsofalaska
@airgunsofalaska 2 ай бұрын
The Diana’s are very nice guns.👍 The quality, fit and finish and smoothness of the cocking and lock up are immediately noticeable compared to the lower priced springers and gas piston guns I own. It’s really nice to be able to see and feel the quality that the higher price brings. I’d not thought about it, it’s possible by 36 has barrel droop as the sights ran out of elevation adjustment at a much shorter range than I was expecting. My Hatsan .30 cal break barrel is the worst! The rear sight elevation is maxed out just to shoot 20 yds. Pretty disappointing.
@johnnybbgunner2136
@johnnybbgunner2136 2 ай бұрын
Very nice rifle and reminds me of my 90’s Beeman R10.🤠🇺🇸
@springpistonriflefeverlone9611
@springpistonriflefeverlone9611 2 ай бұрын
Diana is the builder and RWS was the distributor. The 36 does not have a stop pinhole for the scope mount, but the 34 does. The only difference between the 36 and the 34 is the rubber butt pad and stifling on the pistol grip.
@airgunsofalaska
@airgunsofalaska 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info about the differences between the two models. Funny how RWS as a distributor took on such a large role in the name of the gun. I believe Umarex is now the Diana distributor currently?
@springpistonriflefeverlone9611
@springpistonriflefeverlone9611 2 ай бұрын
@@airgunsofalaska Umarex was the next distributor, but I know that they are no longer. On the new Diana air rifles they do not have any RWS or Umarex written on them. About the stop pin hole and rubber butt pad, I am not so sure about anymore, since I looked up RWS Diana air rifles for sale on eBay and saw a Diana 34 that looked just like the Diana 36. I also saw other Diana 36 that had stop pin holes for the scope mount.
@airgunsofalaska
@airgunsofalaska 2 ай бұрын
@@springpistonriflefeverlone9611 I wonder if the stop pin was on earlier or later models than my gun?
@natesmith5393
@natesmith5393 Ай бұрын
​​@@airgunsofalaska Don't know why YT didn't show my comment about RWS and Diana down below as being added to this thread?? 🤔 Also, IIRC my 34s, which were newer than your 36, both had the stop pin hole scope mounts, but it's been years since I looked those guns over...
@natesmith5393
@natesmith5393 Ай бұрын
Speaking of Sig, I believe their airgun pellets are made in Brazil by Rifle Brand; I think they also make some pellets for Crosman as well as selling under their own brand name. I believe Nibs has had good luck with their Premium line of pellets in his testing...👍
@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069
@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 2 ай бұрын
Quality 👍🍻
@airgunsofalaska
@airgunsofalaska 2 ай бұрын
It sure does feel like quality for sure! 👍
@natesmith5393
@natesmith5393 2 ай бұрын
Forgot you had that nice, old rifle Scott 😅😁👍 My first quality air rifle was my Diana 34 T01 I got around the same age you did; I didn't treat mine the best either, but my buddy has it now & after more than twenty years, it still is working last I knew... always was a buzzy gun to shoot, but certainly well made for sure 👍 I believe the Models 36 and 34 of that style share a rear sight, and thus likely parts too, but I can't confirm that... If you can't sort your rear sight out, I'd recommend going with a peep sight on the receiver; you get a long sight radius that way, and that Diana pointed blade front post works well with a peep in my experience 👍 You also have the luxury of using inserts with your front sight unit, a capability the more plebian 34 lacked in stock form... Speaking of front sight globes & inserts, I've been looking at the Hatsan QE break barrels like your 130S, and it seems the front sight on these is dovetailed into the barrel shroud the same way it is on the Daisy 753. I suspect this means the Daisy front sight globe, along with something like the Air Venturi unit (I believe TruGlo also makes a globe sight for airguns, or at least did) might well fit on these Hatsans, allowing you to improve their front sight capabilities; again, I cannot prove this, but it definitely seems like a plausible idea...I guess one way to test it would be to see if that Diana front sight unit, which Is also dovetailed in, might fit on your Hatsan.....but I'm sure you don't want to fiddle with that....I'm just hypothesizing here apparently 🤔😅😅 Obviously, the size and design of these different dovetails could all vary a bit, potentially making my ideas moot, but I thought it was an interesting thought to consider.... I bet it would be neat have one of those QE Hatsans set-up with a globe front sight and a peep rear; if doable, I think it could really improve the utility of the big bore models like your's without the weight and potential hassles of finding an appropriate optic.... I'm glad you fixed your 130 breech issues & understand your frustrations with Hatsan; their lack of consistent QC belies the fact that they CAN make very good guns when they want to do so.... Anyways, enough of my ramblings & thanks for the trip down memory lane Scott 😁👍 For what it's worth, I too enjoy the channel as-is, but would be OK with you reviewing some products if you really wanted to try them out and/or thought they'd appeal to your channel audience... 😳👍
@airgunsofalaska
@airgunsofalaska 2 ай бұрын
Super cool that you had a Diana from that time period as well! Good to hear they may have shared the same rear sight. I like your idea of a peep sight on the Hatsan. The rear sight on my .30 cal Hatsan is barely functional due to the elevation needing to be maxed out. I’d have to look at the front sights on my Hatsans to see how they are mounted. Thanks for the info and I’m glad you enjoyed the video 😀. I appreciate the comment about reviewing products. I like getting feedback on what people are thinking.
@Relaxbadkneeadventures
@Relaxbadkneeadventures 2 ай бұрын
Niceeeeeeeee😍😍😍😍
@airgunsofalaska
@airgunsofalaska 2 ай бұрын
It was fun to get it out and shoot it again. 😀
@timmygilbert1371
@timmygilbert1371 2 ай бұрын
Sweet gun man . They made them with such high quality back then .
@airgunsofalaska
@airgunsofalaska 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! It’s very nice, the bluing is beautiful and the gun feels so svelte and handy. The action is so smooth when you cock it and the lock up is so solid feeling.
@jackpotparty58
@jackpotparty58 2 ай бұрын
Cool! It has character! Not sure if you want to keep it original or not but I'm pretty sure you may be able to do repairs on the wood. I've done it on a couple of my old 760s.
@airgunsofalaska
@airgunsofalaska 2 ай бұрын
Ha ha! That’s a good way to look at it. I think I’d have to strip off the varnish(?) to refinish the stock. I’m not big into woodworking so I’ll probably just live with it how it is.
@jackpotparty58
@jackpotparty58 2 ай бұрын
@@airgunsofalaska lol My only experience with wood working was making a mirror frame in shop class in the 9th grade. My wooden furniture repair knowledge comes from KZfaq and my main drive was to fix a stock. Lol I learned how to steam out dents with an iron and a wet wash cloth, plus repair and color match damaged areas. 😂👍
@airgunsofalaska
@airgunsofalaska 2 ай бұрын
@@jackpotparty58 my wife likes to refinish furniture, I don’t have the patience for it. That’s what I’d worry about if I attempting to refinish this gun. I don’t think I have enough desire to put in the effort to make it look good. Perhaps it’ll be something I’d be interested to doing years down the road from now.
@jackpotparty58
@jackpotparty58 2 ай бұрын
@@airgunsofalaska I hear you on that. During an earlier time in my life, I had no patience. I guess I learned that sometimes if you let things culminate on their own, without forcing it, you get a better result. I have a Crosman 66 that I restored over a 4 week period. That thing came out so nice. I'm pretty sure it's because I took my time. You may remember that I built my own rendition of a Crosman 100th Anniversary Legacy 1000. I tried to do it within 4 days. The receiver paint job didn't come out as nice as it could have. Wrong choice in texture finish and shade of gold. I believe that if I had taken my time, it would have came out nicer and I wouldn't have a need to redo it.
@airgunsofalaska
@airgunsofalaska 2 ай бұрын
@@jackpotparty58 that’s where I’m at with it. I don’t want to put the time necessary to do it properly so it’s best to just leave things as they are. I’d hate to screw it up!
@johnnybbgunner2136
@johnnybbgunner2136 2 ай бұрын
I have the same rings and the leather hand stitched and crafted sling.
@airgunsofalaska
@airgunsofalaska 2 ай бұрын
Nice set up!
@chriswedgworth
@chriswedgworth 2 ай бұрын
👍
@yoitired
@yoitired 2 ай бұрын
Sweet gun I got my rws 34 in around '98, it looks real similar, prob the biggest difference is the safety on the newer one is flush with the rear cap, was always a pain to put it back on.
@airgunsofalaska
@airgunsofalaska 2 ай бұрын
I wonder if they changed it back on later 34 models? I’m pretty sure the safety is the same on my ‘17 model 34. They are nice guns!
@yoitired
@yoitired 2 ай бұрын
@@airgunsofalaska Interesting I remember at the time looking carefully at all the rws models and they all had the same 'inny' safety😄 Picking the rws really shaped my airgun education, if I'd gotten something junky or another co2 with not being able to shoot it as much I might have totally lost interest. Getting the 34 turned into a life changing decision!
@airgunsofalaska
@airgunsofalaska 2 ай бұрын
@@yoitired the Beeman catalogs heavily influenced my decision to buy my Model 36. In fact I think I likely ordered it from his catalog. I’m now wondering if I kept any of those catalogs? I don’t remember what I paid for this model 36? It was expensive, I know that.
@yoitired
@yoitired 2 ай бұрын
​@@airgunsofalaska Those catalogs would be quite the collectibles now. Mine was $100 from Cabelas, I remember because of the amount of chores and how good I had to be to get it😄
@airgunsofalaska
@airgunsofalaska 2 ай бұрын
@@yoitired I bet those catalogs are worth some money now with how crazy vintage airgun prices are on eBay.
@natesmith5393
@natesmith5393 Ай бұрын
@thatalaskaguy-airguns Scott, what I can say is that RWS is an old German trademark with a rather convoluted history; RUAG Ammotech acquired Dynamit Nobel, who made the RWS pellets. RUAG was bought by Umarex in 2006, and the Big U still distributes said pellets when last I knew. Diana meanwhile was bought out by German Sport Guns in 2014, whereupon their production moved to GSG's facility, where I believe it occupies half their factory. Reputable scuttlebutt has it that Diana, now owned by GSG (which is at least partly owned by the same L&O Holdings Group that owns Sig Sauer), put pressure on Sig to pull the plug on its promising ASP20 gas ram break barrel because they didn't want the marketplace competition... 🤔🤦🔥👎 Sig evidently complied, as the ASP20 was very short-lived despite getting excellent reception from many, including no less than Jon at Keystone Airguns himself 👍 That's about all I can definitively add, but I thought it worth mentioning...
@airgunsofalaska
@airgunsofalaska Ай бұрын
That’s quite a background of change! I wasn’t aware of all those business dealings, pretty interesting.👍 I’ve seen a few of those Cometa guns on a couple KZfaq channels recently. I don’t know if they were always around or if I’m just now noticing because you’d brought them to my attention? They look quite nice but I’m not in the market for something like that at the moment.
@natesmith5393
@natesmith5393 Ай бұрын
@@airgunsofalaska As the Brits would say, Cometa has been around for donkeys' years. They made guns for Crosman back in the 80s (Nibs has two Model 3100s from that era I believe), and RWS brought in, IIRC, three of their rifles and their one springer pistol back in the early 2000s; the rifles were the RWS Models 92, 93, and 94, and the pistol was the Model 9B/N I believe... I owned a Model 93 in .22, and it was a nice gun; accurate & well made, but a bit unrefined and not overly powerful It, along with the Model 94, had excellent hooded front sights with aperture inserts, something the current Cometa models sadly lack....the Crosman 3100s also came with nice sights like that too back in the day... My biggest pet peeve with Cometa so far is their dovetail rails; they machine them straight off the ends of their receivers, but don't provide a scope stop of any kind to offset this....I believe only the Fenix 400 models even have provisions for rings with a stop pin.... UNBELIEVABLY backwards thinking from an airgun company in the 21st century IMO...🤪😳😅👎 Otherwise, their guns still seem well built & accurate, and I would definitely recommend that someone in the semi-affordable budget airgun market look at them first over Diana, given the way that company seems to be sadly going...😭😠💰 So far, my tuned 220 Galaxy is working quite well, and is easily the smoothest working springer I've owned or shot 🙂👍 Surprisingly though, it does not appear to be quite as accurate as my new Hatsan 95 Vortex in .22...😅🤔 It definitely wins in terms of being pleasant, and therefore fun, to shoot however 😁👍
@airgunsofalaska
@airgunsofalaska Ай бұрын
@@natesmith5393 lots of great info! What don’t you care for with Diana? Is it their drastic price increases? I didn’t know Cometa made guns for Crosman. Too bad I didn’t get one of those models back when I bought my Quest 800X. I’d have liked a Spanish made gun over the Chinese Quest.
@natesmith5393
@natesmith5393 Ай бұрын
@@airgunsofalaska Scott, their price increases are certainly one reason. The massive decline in available models (they offer fewer calibers now too, as .20 and .25 aren't cataloged anymore to my knowledge) that are made in Germany is another; I've heard rumors they even use Chinese barrels on some of the 34 series guns, but I cannot substantiate them... I'm also unhappy with them bullying Sig out of not only a promising design, but also depriving us of the only real American-made piston gun in decades as a result...😠👎 If you are interested in taking a look at Diana's new digs, I believe the Airgun Exploration and Advancement channel has a factory tour video that shows airguns being built alongside firearms at the GSG factory...it is a neat video IIRC... P.S. To be totally honest, I'm not happy at all with Sig Sauer either. Since their sketchy CEO Ron Cohen took over, their quality has dropped, prices have soared, and their business practices have taken a nosedive; Not only has the M17/P320 been mired in controversy (with legitimate safety and reliability issues), but Cohen, Sig Sauer, and the German branch of Sig were caught and fined for forging documents & trying to illegally sell guns to Colombia using said false paperwork to claim the guns were for American clients...😮🔥🤪👎 That insanity happened about ten years ago, with Cohen being arrested in Germany but escaping jail time unfortunately...of course, the mainstream firearms media covered this up, and I only recently found out about the incident myself... When Sig gets rid of Cohen & stops being terrible, I'll be happy as I always liked the company beforehand - their discontinued Model 522 is very possibly the best all-around .22 rifle I've ever fired 👍👍
@airgunsofalaska
@airgunsofalaska Ай бұрын
@@natesmith5393 Dang, I don’t follow the gun/airgun industry to any degree so I was unaware of all that aside from Diana’s price increases. I’ve noticed they’ve been rebranding low priced Snow Peak guns as Diana’s and I think that’s unfortunate. But I can see the need for entry level guns for any brand but it’s too bad they are usually Chinese guns for that price point. I remember reading about the issues with SIG and the new M17. I had no idea about their CEO. That business stuff is always interesting to me but I’m always preoccupied following the business trends in the power sports industry with snowmachines, dirt bikes and ATV’s. I’m not at all familiar with SIG looking to come out with a made in the USA break barrel. That would have been a desirable gun to me. Why would Diana have any influence over that?
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