Diesel Electric Truck Weight

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8 ай бұрын

We took Topsy to the scales at the local sawmill.
It’s weight is about what a normal truck is for a heavy haul truck spec’d similar to a Kenworth C500 / Western Star 6900xd.
With a 1500kg weight allowance you can actually haul more with a hybrid truck that a standard diesel

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@aaronhunter7026 8 ай бұрын

The real challenge wasn't guessing the weight, but rather remembering what number I had guessed seveal months ago 😂

@aaronhunter7026 8 ай бұрын

(Found it, my guess was 24,334 lb, actual is 27,734 lb. I was 3400 lb under)

@derickdriedger7115 8 ай бұрын

@@aaronhunter7026Where did you find what weight you guessed? I can’t find it yet.

@aaronhunter7026 8 ай бұрын

@@derickdriedger7115 Its in a video titled "Weight guess contest", vid id v=WinYStwKdAs

@MarylandFarmer. 8 ай бұрын

Same, I think I guessed 32xxx lbs which I figured would be too high as soon I said it.

@longsleevelogger117 8 ай бұрын

I think I said 28-29k, but I sure as he'll can't remember lol

@michaelmcclure8673 8 ай бұрын

You keep drifting around them corners, and Cleetus is going to invite you to a burnout contest. 😅😅😅😅😅😅😊

@KeithOlson 5 ай бұрын

I gotta say that watching something that big spin its tires that easily while making that little sound *_IS DOWNRIGHT EERIE, MAN!_*

@ehta2413 8 ай бұрын

Not too bad for a heavy hauler. But, you forgot to weight it with the hood ornament on, it's a bloody elephant! :D

@JasonEsquivel 8 ай бұрын

With that weight and the extra allowance this is gonna be great out there!

@tankiadam4967 8 ай бұрын

This truck alone will end up changing laws, without meaning to.

@satibel 8 ай бұрын

"I didn't think we would need to add that one, but *no donuts with a 40T trailer*"

@EdisonMotors 8 ай бұрын

I have a bad habit of getting new laws/rules made

@tankiadam4967 8 ай бұрын

@@EdisonMotors just remember, don’t say anything about emissions. Nobody wants any of that crap on their truck.

@Tibbs_Farm 8 ай бұрын

@@tankiadam4967 it is an emergency generator. The batteries are the power source, and the plug in is the intended method of charging along with regenerative braking. No emissions requirments for emergency generators.

@cameronwebster6866 8 ай бұрын

@@tankiadam4967 "Why do you want to smog this truck? It is all electric." "Oh, that, it's just cargo." "So you are telling me that if you ran out of battery in your Tesla, and you had a generator with you, you wouldn't use the Geny to charge you car?" "well it is hooked up so that it can, doesn't mean its not cargo."

@BillBodrero 8 ай бұрын

😆 🤣 It's still a little eerie to see that beast move, and only hear gravel crunch and chains clink. I'm planning for EM to be receiving an order from me in a few years.

@howardkettner 8 ай бұрын

The weight mystery has been solved. No big surprises, nicely done Edison crew.

@BlueDually4x4 8 ай бұрын

She is pretty stout, but those 1/2 inch, 13mm thick frame rails are pretty beefy. Its roughly 10k lbs or 4,535kg heavier than the day cab Mack I drive, but Topsy has a lot more wheelbase and is essentially double frame. The weight is closer to a couple roll off trucks I drove, both double frame, long wheelbase and the 60k lb capacity cable hoist. It would interesting to see how much lighter it would be with standard thickness frame rails and like 200 inch or 5.08m wheelbase; and a slightly less substantial front bumper. More of a vocational tractor for dumps or flat beds with a Moffet. I know its basically the first prototype you have built, but something like this in a lighter weight would be ideal for lumber yards, landscaping, municipality, ext. Throw a 26 ft, 7.9m flatbed on it and hang a Moffet off the back, with all that visibility would make a great truck hauling lumber or sod into residential areas for construction.

@arcticfox5118 8 ай бұрын

Not too bad. Had a simular setup truck for heavy haul in the oilfields. Was about 400 pounds heavier dry iirc. Though we had 300 gallons of fuel on it instead of the standard 160-180. That said at a rough guess using what weights you have provided and educated guesses a road truck setup like topsy would likely end up around 1500 pounds lighter then a modern emissions truck.

@HANKTHEDANKEST 4 ай бұрын

It's just genuinely incongruous with all of my understanding of physics to see a truck that large ascend a hill that steep whilst making *NO NOISE* save for a bit of driveline and pebble crackle. Sweet Jesus.

@dannygingerich2360 8 ай бұрын

State side it'd be 27,750 pounds, over 15k on steers. 11k on drives. For being electric, not bad,. My Kw900 weighs around 19k with a sleeper set up.

@EdisonMotors 8 ай бұрын

For a heavy spec truck with steel butterfly hood and planetary axles I think it’s actually under the diesel equivalent C500

@joshuameldru4004 8 ай бұрын

I grew up working on my dad’s Brockway, your truck reminds me of the Brockway a little and a lot like the old 72ish Autocar. Love what you and your compadres built

@chrisrose_krii_lun_aus 8 ай бұрын

I'm glad you boys got it done. Looks great. Keep her shiney side up.

@justinfowler2857 8 ай бұрын

That's a truck built to work. Let me know when we can invest. Great job guys!!

@christopherevans8480 8 ай бұрын

Man I would drive one that’s a great looking truck man

@drew706 8 ай бұрын

Once all testing is co complete please take it to one of those truck drag races 😁

@BRAVOACTUAL 8 ай бұрын

I am loving the truck. Been using the mod for Snowrunner to "test it out" and it had me wondering about how it would handle water proofing of electric parts? I know Snowrunner is extreme in driving through DEEP water, but it did get me thinking how Topsy would survive long term with it

@satibel 8 ай бұрын

Prolly needs a conformal coating on the escs, arguably potted (bye repairability tho) and maybe a waterproof headache rack.(i.e. no ingress inside the box in the first place) Probably would want a water level sensor and maybe a pressurized air intake. Another option would be to have everything sensitive oil/grease or novec filled, but that might be overkill.

@Tedlasman 8 ай бұрын

@@satibel yes potted is less repairable, but potted stuff tends to be more reliable.

@orbatos 8 ай бұрын

I doubt it's a major issue even as is with the current seals, though double o ring is always better. Proper upgrade to industrial conformal coatings on top of mechanically sound mounting will be fine. For anything that may possibly leak, just pack it with dielectric grease.

@HANKTHEDANKEST 4 ай бұрын

@@satibel I'm a big fan of oil-filled myself--you're not sacrificing repairability and you get cooling as well.

@newman_LaRue_Jr 8 ай бұрын

Why is the livestream last night only four join Members Only. I had a couple of question 1 are you going to be in Louisville Kentucky come February for the farm machinery show number two is there any other show that you would be going to preferably in the in the USA. Sincerely from Henderson Kentucky

@isaackent2355 8 ай бұрын

Looks like the cab is going to rattle itself to bits and fall off 😂😂😂

@badgerpa9 8 ай бұрын

So about 27,700 to 27,800 depending on fuel. Figured she would be close to 27K to 28K that is pretty good for pulling a load.

@Andi_Doci 8 ай бұрын

Dudes, you are making some beautifully trucks. I bet a lot of manufacturers are asking themselves, why can we not get this done ourselves? I say because they are scared.

@harryash11 6 ай бұрын

Bloody right, just wish these boys could patent it but it's open source technology. They'll win on being the first and good ole home grown boys!!!! No marketing machine can replace true passion.

@vinnm4516 8 ай бұрын

I can't get over how wonderfully quiet Topsy is. As a person with a lot of hearing issues made worse by nearby loud road noise, I'm so excited about how this could change the noise level we live with

@dude62478 8 ай бұрын

Man this puts a huge smile on my face. Question for you guys though. How will members of your original crowd funding campaign be notified if / when you guys go public. I know it’s a long ways down the road but I’ve since moved and worry a letter would go to my old address and I’d miss it or something. Keep up the amazing work brothers

@thomasr1051 8 ай бұрын

They may never go public. Maybe they've mentioned something before that i haven't heard though

@dude62478 8 ай бұрын

@@thomasr1051 I believe that’s the reason donating at the beginning came with a certificate to be turned in for shares if it ever went public

@TuckerH. 8 ай бұрын

My guess was 27,345 lbs US. So pretty close. I was about 389 lbs and some change off.

@LOGIBEAR01 8 ай бұрын

I'm happy some dudes build this in their garage and not some nerds in a tech company in California 😅

@peterbenson3776 8 ай бұрын

Stealth mode!!!

@jack504 8 ай бұрын

What's the kWh of batteries and how much do they weigh?

@BigBeavrSlayer 8 ай бұрын

How much visibility from that cab? ALL OF IT!!!

@lasskinn474 8 ай бұрын

I think I would put some plate between the cabin and the back axles. just so that nobody can go stand in the space there in front of the back tires.

@Speedy2222 8 ай бұрын

I think they mentioned it is like this for ease of troubleshooting on this prototype.

@dougr550 8 ай бұрын

I thought most people knew never to stand in places like that. Apparently not everyone.

@lasskinn474 8 ай бұрын

@@dougr550 yeah.. I wouldn't put trust on other people not being stupid as a strategy to avoid whatever accidental manslaughter is called in where you live. as you can see here a guy standing there inside of a prototype that hasn't had that much testing that has enough power that maybe if there's an electrical interference on the throttle sensor cable from brake lights going on-off or something and it jumps a meter in a split second. lots of bitchy bugs that could have been left in and the possibility of human error.

@jamest.5001 8 ай бұрын

Imagine a aluminum hood and doors, floorboard maybe the cab and a highway front bumper, maybe add a sleeper for a long haul truck. Cover the xab and sleeper with solar panels to keep the "house" battery charged, for running lights, heat, cooking and entertainment, maybe a small refrigerator. Build the cab and sleeper in one piece, about a 7'6 box on the back of the cab. Possibly get into carbonfiber, the whole front clip, cab and sleeper weigning less than 300lbs, the weight can be in the trailer making money! It would be simple making a mold for fiberglass or carbon parts, build a cab or front clip and just cover it with plywood, make it so it will slide off. Then spray the plywood with epoxy resin, sand it smooth. Buff snd polish it, and coat with wax or mold remease. Then hand lay the composite fabric of choice. After a few hours you got all the parts to build a body, attach them to a steel powdercoated skeleton, and powdercoated frame. So it doesn't rust. Would be awesome imagine a truck running for 25 years in the rust belt, and have verty little rust. And no dry time for powder coat just a cool off time , and fans can cool it faster,

@mmitron3196 8 ай бұрын

it would be nice to see one video that you are pulling something heavy good job

@sterlingodeaghaidh5086 8 ай бұрын

Few questions: 1: When are you guys planning on doing live tests with its hauling ability? 2: I didn't hear a backup alarm, is it not required where you are/is it just not hooked up? 3: How much is left before the prototype is finished, or at least finished enough?

@Zoeymacelroy0811 8 ай бұрын

Hi, not an edison employee but i should be able to answer atleast one question. I'm not sure about Canadian laws but in the states most of our trucks don't use reverse beeper (backup alarms). As for how much is left I believe they sent it off for testing this past week.

@patrickwilson6934 8 ай бұрын

Iirc I’d say the vast majority of American commercial vehicles have backup alarms. Not civilian vehicles but anything commercial whether that be equipment or 4 wheeler crew trucks and every CDL vehicle I’ve driven newer than the 80s probably has one

@arthurr8670 8 ай бұрын

If I'm remembering correctly, you don't need a backup alarm in the US if you have a backup camera. I have no idea the laws for Canada though.

@roundsm18 8 ай бұрын

@@patrickwilson6934Ive only had two trucks in the US with a back up alarm. OSHA has no requirement for one. 29 CFR Part 1926.601(b)(4) of the Construction Safety and Health Regulations states equipment without unobstructed rear view must have one. Construction trucks (dumps, concrete, etc) have them for this reason. Standard OTR tractors, not required that Ive heard in the last 18 years.

@roundsm18 8 ай бұрын

@@arthurr8670in the US… you need one if you are on a construction job. The rest of us - optional.

@jerrycampbell6181 8 ай бұрын

I like the truck but i want to see it working ! Let's see what she can DO ALREADY !!!

@MichaelTucker 8 ай бұрын

The issue of heavy steer axles isn't new for EV Trucks. I know that Volvo have the same issue for their electric FH when entering into Australia. ( We are allowed 6.5t on the steer)

@iBackshift 8 ай бұрын

Holy schit look at that bad boy come around the corner. 👌

@thatoneguy4138 5 ай бұрын

Wow that's way heavier than even the overbuilt triple axle w9 I used to drive and I thought that truck was heavy at the time 😕. Hope they give you a crap ton of allowance since it's electric ⚡

@Buddha_the_Pug 8 ай бұрын

For those of us who wouldn't know, how does that compare to a normal truck? For example, Carl before it got converted?

@elinoamrichter162 8 ай бұрын

my volvo vnl weighs in at ~13,000lbs, so its double that, but then again, my volvo doesn't have all the accessories their truck has, like the steel bumper, headache rack, fully steel cab, etc.

@bloodhound1144 8 ай бұрын

I have a 2023 heavy spec T-680 Kenworth. It's about 9,000 kgs, depending on fuel. I pull B-trains and normally weigh 60,000 kgs + (Go Canada!). Your typical highway truck pulling a dry van weighs about 7,000 kgs. The lighter weight restrictions in the US. For off highway applications where there are no restrictions and your weight is 80,000- 100,000 kgs (not pounds), the extra 3,000 kgs doesn't matter.

@EdisonMotors 8 ай бұрын

Carl lost 200kg in the conversion

@forceawakens4449 8 ай бұрын

@@EdisonMotorswhich makes some sense, you are downsizing the engine and removing one of the fuel tanks. Diesel and gas are heavy as hell.

@Buddha_the_Pug 8 ай бұрын

@@EdisonMotors interesting.

@derickdriedger7115 8 ай бұрын

So Close…! My guess was 27,501 LB. Still a few guys guessed it closer than that.

@GandOgaming 8 ай бұрын

Amazing

@EdisonMotors 8 ай бұрын

I can’t believe someone got within 20kg

@sharonfieber6458 5 ай бұрын

Pull Alberta load (by truck tire size) 62500Kg? Way to go, none the less!!

@matthewrogers94mr 8 ай бұрын

Would love to see yall do a tug of war with the Tesala truck, or a test to see which is better and can hall more wieght.

@cursedcanine8414 7 ай бұрын

My monny is on the edison becase the tesla does not look like a real truck and problaby isent built to last this is a real futuree of truck

@Swedishchef11 8 ай бұрын

Any plans for putting the cab on air bags for the next version?

@jwiereng 8 ай бұрын

I recall the video of the cab mounts. iirc it to air bag on the rear of the cab

@MascottDeepfriar 8 ай бұрын

the cab and the batteries are both already on air. As far as i can tell most of the driving has just been short trips so they didn't bother getting everything adjusted.

@Xantosh82 8 ай бұрын

Please can we have a version without the music, Topsy's music is too soft to hear over the background track

@farhanpratama0285 8 ай бұрын

Drivetrain mechanism like diesel locomotive

@jesseleesamples 8 ай бұрын

How many bald eagles is that? What does a similar spec diesel powered truck weigh? I think most people forget that this is a off road heavy spec truck and not a highway 18 wheeler

@roadrunner681 8 ай бұрын

This truck isnt to bad, if i recall correctly my friends Michigan special kw t800 with a crane weights in at 35k pounds. Not bad at all fellas

@WhiteSupreme 8 ай бұрын

Yeah this is just a pretty basic truck though that weighs almost as much as your friends crane truck.

@roadrunner681 8 ай бұрын

@WhiteSupreme that crane truck weights about the same without the added equipment and it's not as heavy duty as a c500 class truck like this is

@timg2973 8 ай бұрын

are ear muffs icluded with all that body rattle?

@TJWelsh 8 ай бұрын

What's the tare with gear on, trailer stacked?

@brokenmarbles5264 8 ай бұрын

Shes a beauty eh👍💪

@justinanderson9126 8 ай бұрын

Did you add truck sounds to this?

@bluenuts6933 8 ай бұрын

When will we get a video of the cat charging the batteries?

@ianmiller4846 7 ай бұрын

I really like to how parts are universal and I can get them anywhere and if I want say a different set of headlights I can just put what I want on or if I break one and all that's close by is it hardware store I can get an LED bolted on and I'm good to go for 20 bucks instead of having to spend $500 to a thousand and a dealership truck that's built to last and nothing is hard to get to

@jerrykinnin7941 8 ай бұрын

A little heavy for what I do. But just gotta get more axles.

@thomaspizzey4549 8 ай бұрын

When will you come to Regina Saskatchewan Canada 🇨🇦 to show your fans this truck is real?

@stevenurben7925 8 ай бұрын

How full were the fuel tanks

@donniestoolthoughts9209 8 ай бұрын

Is it an optical illusion or does the cab have a “carolina squat?”

@truthseeker2190 5 ай бұрын

What's the DEF tank capacity on that thing?

@unseen4047 8 ай бұрын

So it's main start energy supply is a diesel motor

@jaygraham5407 8 ай бұрын

No back up lights??

@joeynagy8657 8 ай бұрын

Isn’t 7000 close to max legal on the steers with the big boots on

@mrmoose7049 8 ай бұрын

Just saw it on hwy400 ontario

@dontask8979 8 ай бұрын

A porthole front axle w/locker...just because.

@lilmaxAlarcxn 8 ай бұрын

battery op temp?

@thetigerstripes 7 ай бұрын

I have yet to see a trailer attached to it while operating over the road.

@vf12497439 8 ай бұрын

Almost 28,000 pounds for us Americans. With different specs bla bla bla. My Kenworth with a drop axle and my logging gear, 6,000 pound trailer included is 29,900 pounds. This truck is specked with heavy axles compared to mine? The weight has to come down for log truck duty. We want to carry 55,000-57,000 pounds of load to be profitable or 28.0-29.0 US tons.

@arthur1670 8 ай бұрын

She’s looking a lot different from when I last saw her

@bloodhound1144 8 ай бұрын

11,867 kgs was mine

@Captain_Bad_Bill 8 ай бұрын

"I think you're standing on the scale." Like his skinny butt was going to make what, (I'll go old english) 2 1/2 stone? 75 kg?

@jaredlancaster4137 8 ай бұрын

As long as you know 2 1/2 stone is 35 lb, which is not even close to 75 kg.

@Captain_Bad_Bill 8 ай бұрын

@@jaredlancaster4137 👍

@michaelsessions1653 8 ай бұрын

Seems a bit heavy to me! My old freightliner and pole trailer isn't that heavy and its got a big ole 14 liter 60 series Detroit!

@geauxtigers6369 8 ай бұрын

So who won the free truck by guessing the weight 😁

@roadwolf2 8 ай бұрын

Where is her reverse beeper?

@GreggWalken-xd3qv 7 ай бұрын

Shouldn't have needed a backup alarm in that weigh-in. Where I'm from you never back onto a scale, quarry's and ports forbid it.

@VARITHMS 5 ай бұрын

I need a lightweight daycab for 80,000lbs and a cng generator

@justaregularguy3827 8 ай бұрын

I demand a launch

@FUNNYBOY12375 8 ай бұрын

So about 27734 pounds

@certifiedcjs1811 7 ай бұрын

If you're enjoying this video, you're woke!

@GandOgaming 8 ай бұрын

Close guesses all around

@mtvjackass74 8 ай бұрын

I wanna see this truck pull a fully loaded trailer.....

@benjithebulldog5637 8 ай бұрын

CAN I PLEASE SEE A REAL TEST DRIVE WITH A 40000 LB TRAILER?

@rescuegarage6616 8 ай бұрын

FOR THE LOVE OF TOPSY PUT FENDERS ON IT BEFORE ITS DESTROYED

@alanack67 8 ай бұрын

That's pretty heavy

@Unknown_Ooh 7 ай бұрын

Wouldnt this be considered a hybrid since it has a diesel generator? And is the diesel gen the only way to charge the batteries? i havent seen a video yet showing a charge port.

@EricErnst 8 ай бұрын

I don't rem what I guessed.

@jblob5764 8 ай бұрын

I'll have to check what i guessed

@thomaspizzey4549 8 ай бұрын

When does this truck start bulling a trailer 🤔 People want to see this truck to perform ?

@allamericanchris429 8 ай бұрын

The tires will last longer than the batteries.

@randgrithr7387 8 ай бұрын

Time will tell. It won't be as bad as you think. The generator bypasses the batteries to send power directly to the axles as needed. This should reduce the number of charge cycles.

@GreggWalken-xd3qv 7 ай бұрын

If the diesel generator bypasses batteries to power the axle/wheels then would the generator require emissions system installed? The generator is acting as a transmission no different from an Allison or Roadranger.

@saveme66 8 ай бұрын

way better than shitty bubble looking tesla truck

@abefriesen3219 8 ай бұрын

😂

@MarkRose1337 8 ай бұрын

Different applications

@randgrithr7387 8 ай бұрын

@@MarkRose1337 Yet the Edison truck weighs about the same, is built tougher, and theoretically has way more range. It does everything the Tesla semi can & then some.

@MarkRose1337 8 ай бұрын

@@randgrithr7387 The Edison also pollutes more, and I'm not talking carbon dioxide. But it pollutes less than the vehicles it will replace, and I think it's a clever design that will do well in its target market.