I kept waiting for you to raise both arms in the expensive suit as you did in the inexpensive suit to illustrate the supposed massive difference between the two.

Well I'd imagine the difference is $4,500

my dads been a tailor for 25+ years I got him to make me a suit once I asked how much he'd charge for something like it and he said over $2000! Glad he's my father 😂!

Oh jeez, it's a no-brainer then! From now on, only $5000 suits for me!

A bespoke suit can take as many as 80 hours of work. When I was very young I went to the New York branch of Bernard Weatherill, a London tailor who was very popular in NYC at the time. I ordered a suit with a vest and the tailor asked me if I wanted lapels on the vest. I blurted out "No, I hate that look". Then I noticed his waistcoat had lapels. He looked at me right in the eye and turned to his assistant and said "put down no hips and bowed legs".

So i have sat through a 10 minute video and not once did he answer the question The difference between and $500 and $5000 suite is $4500

I wouldn't call a $500 suit a cheap suit. Most of my suits cost $500 and it is what most middle class people can afford (a $100 suit is too cheap unless you really can't afford it). I think that a $500 suit is the best option for most middle class people.

99.9% of people will never know the difference between a high quality made to measure suit and a $5000 bespoke suit. It really boils down to the amount of handwork in the suit. I've even seen fully canvassed MTM suits, with various linings, horned buttons, picked stitching, surgeon cuffs, contrasting button hole threads and various other options, teamed with Loro Piana super 180s in any fabric pattern your heart desires for about $1000 bucks. Sure the button holes aren't hand finished but that's not worth $4000 imho.

I noticed that you kept raising your arms to show how an ill-fitted suit reacts to movement, but you never did so while wearing the $5,000 suit. How differently does the jacket react to movement?

I only wish you showed us the tailoring results of a $5000 suit so we can actually see the points you tried to prove. I saw a $900 fit to measure suit next to a Bespoke suit and differences become too subtle. There was no magical fit you describe. You raise your arms in any suit and it will be boxy and stiff, unless your Bespoke suits are made of spandex.

Almost every suit I own cost between $700 - $800, with a few less expensive ones purchased when I was first building my wardrobe. All of them have been extensively tailored to fit extremely well. I have seen a number of suits in the $1200 - $1500 range that are very nice, and my tailor has told me that he can build me a very nice suit for about the same price. I'm not sure just what makes a suit worth $5000, but I feel like there has to be a point of diminishing returns. I'd have to be very wealthy to ever feel right dropping that kind of money on a suit.

At 5:12 he raises his arms in the expensive suit but has buttons open unlike with the cheaper one. I don't know if that makes a difference but I am not sold.

I appreciate what he was trying to say but it solves a question that very few can seriously ask. I am sure the moon looks way better from a NASA rocket but for the rest of us non astronauts a telescope will have to do.

Hey, I got the Tennant suit in custom cotton brown/blue pinstripes from Magnoli Clothiers. Honestly, best $575 I've ever spent. It was a birthday gift to myself and the suit is quite comfortable even to this day. Everything fits perfectly. After owning for half a year, I can see where I could improve certain measurements, but I'm still very happy with the suit I have right now. Allons-y!

This information is good. You know what I like about it? It is practical and clear. I think that every father should pass this onto their sons. You know, have the 'talk' about clothes and fill them in on what they need to know about suits, shoes, shirts, colognes, hair. I floundered about for years making mistakes only because I didn't just get told this upfront.

You can get great half-canvassed suit at $1000 from Italian tailors with hand rolled lapels with great pattern and hand-stitching. I don't think you should spend $5000 on suit even if you have money

I never understood how people could be so mindful of their appearance in regards to clothing and yet never go to the gym to stay in shape

I would love to see you showing us some items from your closet and how you put together an outfit.

At some point "surgeon's cuffs" became a status symbol. While the buttons may be functional, they serve no practical purpose. Has there been even one situation in your life over the past 30 years when it was more desirable to unbutton and roll up your sleeves instead of just taking off the jacket?

This guy is different, he's really different. If I was to buy a $5000.00 suit, I would most certainly buy it from his store and only have this guy tailor my suit. No one else. He's a different breed of tailor for sure. Levels to the game

Couldn't afford a 5K suit even before I retired. This will kill you but I actually have a $50 suit. No kidding! Most people I encounter don't have a clue. I put it together with a beautiful David Donahue shirt and great tie and look like a million bucks. I'm actually more comfortable in it for the very reason that I spent so little; I don't worry about snags or spills.

love the videos, its interesting to see some of the differences, i enjoy the content! and for those that are on a budget you can find expensive suits cheap. i have suits that are $1500- $3700 and have never paid the actual price, used and clearance will save you a lot, i have purchase $1000 and $2000 suits for $70-$100 and so on. yes you have to look around but it pays off, i have 1 $400 suit, its ok, but will never compare to the more expensive ones i own. if you put enough time in you will find one and you will not regret it.

In the 90's I worked for a uniform manufacture which used local tailor shops to make some of the things. Most things were manufactured in China. But if there something they couldn't make or they were out of stock of a few items, they would get them made at the local tailor shop. For Christmas one year, I got to have a bespoke suit made for me for being an employee. It wasn't the most expensive fabric but it was a very nice wool fabric that I got to pick out. In the end it was fabulous. It felt and looked amazing! There is just noting like putting on a custom-tailored suit. Every man should have a least on customer tailored suit in his life.

I work for a menswear store and our custom program is pretty much just one of our "higher end" suits with your choice of material and we adjust a couple of measurements to your size. Essentially it is an off the rack suit with the alterations already done

I invested about 800€ in the Suitsupply in store made to mesure program. The tailor who mesured me was extremely professional. I had a second fitting and some small alterations where made for free. I am incredibly happy with the suit and I think it is a million times better than if i would have ordered it online. In store made to mesure is definitely a great option to Bespoke in my opinion as it comes really close at a third of the price.

The most expensive suit I have is a $2,000 Versace which does have a different drape, but the truth that I have learned is that a great tailor can make my off the rack $200 suit look better than a poorly tailored $2,000 suit. Your build also makes a huge difference because I have an easy to fit off the rack body which fits the standard cuts pretty much the way it is without much tailoring needed, compared to my friends who are fat or misproportioned with too much muscles up top with skinny legs.

Thanks for your videos - such a great channel!

Lol i never worn a suit or tux that cost more than $150 but m happy to know this info about the things which make a suit luxurious and so expensive....!!

Always get extra slacks. Slacks wear out 2-3 pairs per jacket

Thank you for an excellent video, showing the problems with made to measure suits in comparison to a bespoke garment made on a personal, one to one manner. Showing the $500 dollar suit and then directly comparing to the bespoke shows some of the compromises you'll make when ordering a custom suit over the internet. I believe however, that many people are hung up on the term "cheap" when discussing a suit, as for many people, myself included, $500 is not an insignificant amount of money. However, "cheapness" is not always a comment about the actual price, but rather the price to performance ratio. For example, any suit at say, a Mens Warehouse, would be deemed "cheap"; even the ones they sell for $1000. The materials, construction, and details are all subpar; especially considering that price. Unfortunately, and perhaps more importantly for gentlemen such as myself with more limited funding, and a size which is not available from most decent off the rack options; $500 made to measure suits are really the only option for something that will be "decent". And yes, I thrift, but again my size puts me in a place where finding ANYTHING is a very rare thing indeed. For a quality made to measure suit from a reputable vendor, you should be working closely with their customer service (especially on the first suit) to make sure the adjustments are compensated by the vendor, and then incorporated into the next garment. In this case, with appropriate care and a good vendor, the suit may be "inexpensive" but not "cheap". And I suppose that really leads me to my point: perhaps rather than show a cheap made to measure suit, perhaps comparing to an "inexpensive" made to measure suit to a bespoke suit may be more interesting. Especially if you utilize a tailor, or the M2Ms own brick and mortar stores for measurements. While I know the quality will not compare to a $5000 bespoke from Savile Row, you may get a product that looks good and is considerably more comfortable to wear. It would also be interesting to see how this "cheap" suit compares to one of the terrible of the rack options at say a JC Penny's, a Macy's, or a Mens Warehouse. (I have already seen the $100 vs $1000 video, which tho helpful; doesn't directly compare these options.) As always, thank you for these excellent videos; I enjoy them immensely.

Can you show movement of the bespoke jacket when you move ? You made it as a disadvantage of the cheap jacket but there was no direct comparision from the bespoke

Had many $500 that fit AND wore perfect!

I got an of the rack suit for over $500 and I love it.

Much as I like these videos, I'm bound to disagree on several points, chiefly when it comes to cost.There's simply no need to go for a 5000$ to get a first quality bespoke item, and I know this for a fact. My last costume was barely on the 1000$ edge, and I received not less attention from my tailor or enlightened advice about fabrics, color, trimmings and fashionable details than our king ( I'm belgian, BTW). Of course, the final cost depends heavily on materials, as they vary wildly in price. Granted, if you choose a horribly expensive, albeit exceedingly beautiful fabric, the sky's the limit, but superior quality ones are available at reasonable prices. Don't ruin yourselves unnecessarily.

I may not look too "dapper", but when you see me you will notice I am clearly man of culture. With my teal coloured Crooks and Castle shirt, complemented by a picture of medusa wearing a bandana, accompanied by my knee low Reasons tiger swim shorts, up sized to fit like basketball shorts, splashed with baby blue and pink all over it, followed by random kanji writing, a tiger, and palm tree silhouettes. Plus being that these ones are special edition, they have baby blue instead of the normal teal that the shorts come in and also have lightning on them. A true Gentleman...

im not rich. a $500 suit is better than good to me.

A lot of numbers thrown around in the comments sections regarding the cost of a bespoke suit. Some idiot also said "a true bespoke suit in London would cost you EUR 27,000" which is absolute bullshit. From what I've seen online a 2 piece bespoke suit costs between £3,500 - £4500 and 3 piece falls between £4,500 - £5,500 in Sevile Row, London, all made from high quality cloth. Obviously there are over-the-top fabrics which are super expensive which will sky rocket the prices, and that is something that is made to cater the super rich people. If you want to stitch a bespoke suit don't be afraid to save some money and get that dapper look.

I'm getting fitted for some custom bespoke pajama pants. They cost a little more but is very much worth it.

I wear a suit everyday to work, and never heard of the term bespoke. Good information on the differences in quality. Your channel is teaching me how to raise my game. Before I got to the point where I can lay down $5K on a suit, I'm guessing I would have to be in the $250K annual salary for it to make sense. Until then, the $500 suit is about right for the working man.

In my country, bespoke suits that would cost $6000+ if you made it in savile row will cost around $400-600 in my country. Bespoke tailors in my country include: Laxmi Tailors Brillington & Brothers Hariom's And much more...

I have been working in a tailor store for 12 years in Thailand but most of your answer are good but some are funny

The difference is very much in the armscythe AND in the way the pad stitching is done to conform to your body. I have had a great deal of success altering cheaper suits to fit nearly as well but there really is no substitution for custom. Its like kitchen cabinets. Sure you can buy stock sizes from the big box store for a lot less but the difference between that and a cabinet built to fit your taste as well as your space is obviously much more gorgeous.

Thanks for your professional Advice expertise on bespoke suit Iam low end middle class, Not a very high end person My suit fordabilities Price range 250 350 500 max My bespoke is 1500/2500 max Done by not known designers I value your wisdom knowledge Explanation of details on The bespoke suit details Why would it cost that much My experience is that you have A tailor that you know & trust That is personal to eye to detail My tailor gives me affordable Tailoring to my suit & taste And I am not disappointed With the results Thanks for your video

I'm only a public school teacher, but a $5000 suit would be wonderful to own someday.

$500 custom suits have become very popular because of online supply chain management? Um, they've probably become popular because who the hell can afford a $5,000 suit?

I've read your blogs for years and very happy with this KZfaq channel and your cheeky responses. Very Smart and Posh.

lol at how he took off that first uncomfortable jacket

I've a Kiton suit and it's great.

I wouldn't call a $500 suit "bad" or "cheap" because that's probably the best most middle-class Americans can afford and usually a $500 suit should fit pretty well. I mean if you make a lot of money then definitely go bespoke but made to measure should be fine for most people

Interesting information , thanks . Honestly , Most gents cant fly over to England to be fit several times for a suit or a Falcon sports car .

Thank you 👍

There MUST be an acceptable middle of the road option. The number of men who can afford $5000 suit is exceptionally limited.

This is fair enough, and valid in terms of absolute quality. For most, a $500 suit is already a disproportionate spend. Each to his own, and means.

Few problems here: 500 dollars is not "cheap" to a regular american. Some of us make that in two weeks of work. Also, I think the regular viewer on this channel does not have extra change in their montly budget for a 5000 suit.

My Dad used to get bespoke suits in Chicago; now i think that you would have to go to NYC.

I don't really mind low armholes myself as I don't often raise my arms in the jacket and if I do, I unbutton it.

I'm turning 30 in July and have decided it's time for a complete overhaul of my style and wardrobe. This sort of fashion is something I'm very much interested in, and am going to buy my first tailored suits for myself as a birthday present. Any advice for a first timer visiting a tailor? I live in Amsterdam and have found some good places which even offer orientation sessions, but any advice would be much appreciated!

Mine costs $500.01, so it's not cheap! 👍👍👍

You are fabulous!!! This video is so informational, well presented and perfect! Well done

My suit only cost me around 300 usd for a full bespoke full canvas suit (exc.the garment), if you want to use an italian brand 100% wool fabric like Valentino, VBC, Zegna with a 100% silk interlining the total cost is around 600-1000 usd max.

I like the Goodwill customs

Would you recommend getting something that's preowned (provided it has similar measurements so it can further tailored) for someone who wants a quality suit, but doesn't necessarily want to drop $1k or more for something brand new? If so, what do you need to look for to make sure you're getting what you paid for? Thanks.

I had a tailor made medium weight wool suit made from Alexandre of London for $200.

What about a place like Tailor Cooperative? They have high-end custom suits but also their "core collection" custom suits, averaging around $500 - $600. There are fittings and whatnot, it's fully custom and all in person.

That tight suit in the opening, is reminiscent of the "Barbarian Beauty", the suit the mountain populating males have traditionally worn to their first dates. The hair, is of course in accord, the "Barbarian Scalp Vista", as it is called, complete with Cabbage Oil to hold it in place. Congratulations on the Look !!

Excelente, los detalles de la diferencia.

I have become a huge fan of made to measure shirts over the past few months and while I had to experiment and tweak 2-3 shirts the end result is really awesome. I am expecting a similar process with online made to measure suits as well so I haven't pulled the trigger on that. Would you have any tips on how to make sure the measurements are correct? Maybe go to a local tailor to help with that (probably not free but still seems like a good idea)?

This video is old but I still feel it's worth mentioning that if you actually pay attention and watch the video, he clearly raises his arms in the more expensive suits at 5:12 and again at 6:23. Just an FYI for anyone finding this video in 2020. Lol.

Thank you for the video. The question here is do you want and can you afford to pay for a piece of art or not.

love this channel helps me out so much so save money on bad suits i use to buy lol

I got an $80 suit and it serves me well.

I have some bespoke and some made to measure by Cesare Attolini and I have to say the Attolini fits just as nice as any bespoke suit plus is much easier to order and not go through the 3 fittings which for my schedule could be tough especially given where I live as I'm not aware of any good bespoke tailors in my area. But of course with Attolini you pay for it as the suits range from $6,700-$7,700 US

Makes me wonder if cheap home body scanning would solve much of this and close the gap. Video game systems already have cameras which scan the body in motion, would only have to increase the resolution.

For anyone who wants a made to measure suit in the highest quality, come to Japan! Because everyone here in japan wears suits to work. Good quality suits are important. Theyll cost you between 300-1200 dollars depending on fabric and the fit is very good

I love your red houndstooth tie, I've seen it in a couple of your videos. where is it from? I'd love to pick one up for myself. Thanks for another great video!

I would have cut down the video by 5 minutes and just say flat out that made-to-measure online coatmakers take the same shortcuts that ready-to-wear makers do because they're following set template patterns that aren't 100% customized to the individual. Larger armscyes, standard shoulder slopes, generic measurements. Factory-made suits aren't bespoke.

Hi Sven, thanks for your informative video. I have a question: Can you please mention an example name for a vintage store? I live close to Minneapolis MN, however, I could not find one. Did you mean stores such as Good Will or Salvation Army? I took a quick look in those stores; however, there was no chance for something that could even pass basic standards there! Can you please give an example of the vintage stores that you mention in this video? Thank you, Kayvan

Another good video. However, I noticed a little bit of collar gap on the navy blue suit. Is this normal?

You can get an amazing suit that fits you extremely well and is extremely comfy at MW for about $1000.

La différence entre 500 et 5000 est 4500 soit le pouvoir d'achat des gens qui voudraient bien s'offrir un très beau costume, et celui qu'ils achètent réellement, non en désespoir de cause, mais simplement aux vues de leur possibilités. Il n'en reste pas moins, que ces costumes sont d'une facture d'exception, qui justifie amplement leurs prix; De plus je suis en admiration devant un tel savoir faire, bravo messieurs les couturiers, vôtre savoir faire est un veritable patrimoine, qui je l'espère perdurera.

Mr. Schneider, what is your opinion of Magnoli Clothiers? I'm rather tempted by their double breasted "Washington suit" that has a wider wrap, wider lapels and fuller drape cut that's pretty well straight out of the Golden Age. Would you think the suit would be a good investment quality wise?

I would go for that grey, cheaper suit. Looks so much better, more fashionable in every way. You just don't raise arms above shoulder level in suit. If you can afford 5k suit, you simply don't call a cab by raising your arms ;) Have a nice day

Anywhere between 1 month to a year? For most people $500 dollars is a lot to spend on a suit. The only reason I can afford one of them is because I live with my folks and work a full time job while i'm looking for a place to stay, as such I have zero responsibilities bar the food i eat. Even then at most I'd ever buy 2 in a month. To me at least $5000 seems like an incredulous amount of money to spend on a suit. I don't know if it's my humble beginning s or the current state of the economy but even if I was a millionaire I couldn't feel good spending that much on a single article of clothing, there's just too many people I could help with that money. Mind you this shouldn't detract from the video which was very helpful and well thought out

Sven, can you do a review or an opinion piece on Conor Mcgregor's new suit line AugustMcGregor?

You should do a video on Kiton napoli suits

+Gentleman's Gazette As far a suit construction, what features help beat the heat in tropical environments. You mentioned full canvas to make it stiffer, does that make it hotter? Are there any very professional looking fabrics you recommend for heat dissipation? Any extras you can request such as vents under the arms? And what about care and maintenance? With the amount of sweating, daily dry cleaning seems prudent, but any other tips? What can one do to prevent appearing as a damp rag?

great vids! I would suggest a better mic though

it also depends on the labour market, a top notch bespoke suit will cost much less in Turkey or Poland than France or England.

Really good review. Unfortunately not many of us have the $ to spend on a custom suit.

what company made your m2m suits in your closet? I'm curious who you think is a good vendor.

Your videos are very educational. One of the best men fashion youtube channel. Keep up the good work. ☺️

I am sorry, but my $50 dollar linen blazer has the comfort and fit of your blue suit. And I love its casual look.

I'd love several. LOL

I would love to experience having a bespoke suit made for me any recommendations on where to find a quality tailor here in the USA thanks for a excellent video on this subject

This guy talking about $5,000 suits reminds me of the business card scene from American Psycho.

Could the difference illustrated by raising your arms simply be because the 500 suit has the English-style structured shoulder with padding, while the 5000 suit has the Italian style soft unstructured shoulder?

A lot of this is a generalisation, custom made suits are not as bad as you say, there are plenty of full canvas clothes that are not bespoke, also in terms of materials you can buy what ever materials you want and take them to your tailor

$5000 suit means you can show off to your plastic fantastic friends. Selling an ideal, I know an Austin Martin is awesome, still can’t justify buying one.

Yes, but there's a very glaring similarity: Who the hell can afford either?!

What you think of Suit-supply and their half-canvas, full floating canvas suits? Are they any good?