Some people consider Dishonored to take place in the Elder Scrolls setting, ergo, this is the Oblivion video.

I think the problem is that the original Dishonored was never meant to have a sequel. The lead dev even said it during an interview before the release of Dishonored 1. The fact that the game was a smash hit and Bethesda wanted a sequel to a game that was never intended to have one is in my opinion the root of all the problems the sequel has. That being said. Once you get past this D2 is a great game.

Dishonored honestly has to be one of my favourite games of all time. Just in concept, art and design alone its fantastic.

Another solution to D2's story just being a retread I've wondered about is instead of having the infuriating beginning where the exact same thing happens twice with no meaningful resistance, why couldn't the game have been about political intrigue in another region? They went to the effort of putting together a whole other city and used it just to repeat the exact same plot they already did. Why not retain Emily as empress but have Corvo or even your suggestion of Emily's children act as agents of the crown dispatched to deal with some brewing disaster? You can have potentially the exact same stakes, tell any kind of story but just drop the jarring "haha oh dear, looks like the rug's been pulled out from under you again and you lost everything! That's a real shame, can you guess what the game is going to be about?"

I do love Karnaca though. One of my top settings in a game. Architecture, culture and etc really drew me in. Definitely a place I would visit if it was safe.

While I admit that the story is rather shallow, “a crack in the slab” is one of the coolest levels I have played in any game ever. Swapping between the different time periods never gets old

FYI - it's actually possible to go into Jindosh's mansion without alerting him, as long as you don't touch any of the levers.

Rather than a choice at the start, I think Corvo should've been a new game plus option, after you've beaten the game, you can play with the familiar abilities of Dishonored 1 and a slightly different story, maybe even weave the Outsider into it and say like, he's giving Corvo the chance to change the timeline, to keep Emily safe, without telling Corvo that Emily actually got through just fine, because the Outsider just wants to see what would happen, like he did when he gave Corvo his mark in the first place.

I actually find Emily's powers very fitting for her: they fit a metaphorical theme for her power as empress. Far reach for the borders of her empire Domino for her power to forge people's fate Doppelganger for the armies she could command

Love Dishonored. Hope we get D3 someday

I do think the weapon differences are more to demonstrate how although both are stealthy, there is a thematic difference between Corvos gruff working class background and more aggressive approach and Emily’s noble station and more acrobatic approach

12:36 You could even have the tutorial level be you playing Corvo, teaching them fencing and stealth and then you pick which character you're going to play depending on who you save before Corvo dies.

In the "crack in the slab" time travel is available in the mansion because a hole in the void was torn in that spot not because of Stiltons memories.

I just realized how hot Arkane made Corvo in this game.

One point you made is "What's stopping a group of people from summoning Delilah back out from the void?" I don't think she would want to leave. She's stuck, yes, but she's trapped in her own fantasy where everyone will adore her for the rest of time. Her main goal was to make that a reality. (BTW great video, it really did make me rethink my thoughts on this game)

13:35 actually there is one level where a female guard pushes a woman off a roof for something petty

I would argue that ability to choose between characters was not born out of desire to be more inclusive, but out of decades old fear "games with female protagonists don't sell". In one of their interviews they say this "We started with just Emily, and then over time we realized that a certain part of the team was nostalgic for Corvo, as were a certain part of the players." and I would bet that it was marketing team that was scared shitless of having already niche game fronted by female protagonist.

Jessamine still being in the heart, and by extension, the implication that her being freed from the heart is a sacrifice, really irks me. It's made rather clear in the first game that the heart is an aberration, something which should not exist, and the Outsider implies that the heart will only exist as long as Corvo needs it. Imagine a game in which Emily is the sole protagonist and Corvo dies in the intro. Boom, Corvo's in the heart now. Corvo likely has different things to say about what he's now a witness to than Jessamine did, and with subtlety being brutally murdered in this game, likely could have been a constant companion for Emily. That way, Corvo's spirit leaving to unbind Delilah actually matters. Actually, in regards to that lack of subtlety, it really hurts. They aren't content to let the heart's owner be unspecified, they aren't content to let the Outsider be mystery, or Billie Lurk being Megan Foster. They feel the need to spell everything out for you. Damnit, this game's writing infuriates me.

Was wondering if you were gonna do this soon. One of my favorite games; funnily enough I just replayed the main game two weeks ago for the first time since 2016. Good on you for retroactively publicizing this franchise. It is truly a gem, despite its faults. Possibly even one of the last great AA tier (vs AAA massive studio) gaming franchises.

I preferred dishonored 1. I didn’t care for the story in 2 at all. The gameplay in 2 is good but compared to the first leveling up and acquiring all the powers is slower. In dishonored 1 I felt that you got access to try all the powers but in 2 you basically have to make a distinctive build but not really get the full handle on that until last few levels. Like for the me, the game became fun later after I completely leveled up my rat swarm ability with the matching bone charms and just let them tear through everything (though at one point in dunwall tower my undying swarm got stuck in the level so I couldn’t summon them until I found them again after backtracking)

32:10 I recognize that voice...thanks for having me on! I wasn't aware of how much they stripped away from the chaos system compared to the first Dishonored. I wonder how much of an impact it had with Raphael Colantonio focusing on Prey at the time, as he was a co-director of the first.

13:43 Actually, there is one instance in Dishonored 2 where a female guard kills a citizen. It's during the Royal Conservatory mission and only occurs in high chaos.

There is one interesting feature they did with the chaos system since now chaos generation varies depending on who you kill rather than the amount you kill. Though this was something I only found out in the last level when I looked up whether you could get away with killing the witches, and yah, killing witches has very little impact on chaos (so little that I killed every witch and still got the best ending) and you can use the heart to see if someone is a terrible person which will let them be killed for lower chaos. But since the game doesn't really tell you this outside of tooltips and I doubt any player is going to interrogate every guard/civi with the heart, I'd say it should have been implemented a bit better.

Did you know you can one shot Deliah with shadow walk? I did it accidentally, which resulted in me waiting for her to come back/revive and then being met with utter disappointment at how easy it was to eliminate her.

I like your comment about the designers had level ideas and storyline came later because my opinion of Arkane is that their writing is basically an excuse for their gameplay (and found amusing that their narrative designer in the No Clip video only talked about gameplay and never about the narrative :-P) ... though i seem to have a much more positive outlook on it as i love Arkane's gameplay :-P.

Ah yes I almost forgot the iconic witch dialogue from Dishonored 1. "Are you going to swim with us later?" "No, I don't think so"

How have I never heard of Peripeteia, it's like someone crawled in my head and made the game my subconscious never knew it needed.

1) Morality didn't work as simple as you explained it, as the heart will determine the "goodness" of a character and give you more chaos ratings if you kill a good person as opposed to a bad person 2) there are 2 instances off the top of my head where female guards are dicks, the janitor scene in addermire, and pushing that other girl off a roof (chaos linked i think???) 3) I agree, Emily should have been the sole character. The writers essentially confirmed that Emily was the original protagaonist but were scared because female fronted games dont sell (not necessarily true) so they added Corvo in..

Personally I liked having the option to play as Emily and Corvo. It was a reason to replay the story with the differences that come with the two characters. Also the introduction of female characters as guards or antagonists didn’t bother me at all. It kinda made the gameplay/story more interesting for me. I’m definitely biased as I think both D1 and D2 are fantastic mostly due to the incredibly fun gameplay and beautiful art style. I think sometimes the story can take a backseat as long as the game itself it super fun to play. I think most of the problems raised in this video never bothered me because I like the game enough to play it multiple times and to explore every corner. It’s a shame some of these points may effect some players experience negatively although I’d like to remain more positive in that regard. I hope Dishonored comes back as it is genuinely one of my favourite games of all time and seeing conversations and debates about it is always welcome.

I have yet to play these games. Now I think I rather should.

For me, I always thought the level design in the second game was better then the first. Or at least, their layouts. The first game had a few levels that were pretty linear, like bridge and flooded, and most of the large buildings in the game felt like giant loops with side rooms, which made them feel like less of actual buildings to me, like the golden cat or dunwall tower. Most of the levels in the second game feel like they have flow, Like where every arm of a building branches off of a singular point, like most buildings in the real world. No matter how much you tried, you would always wind up in the same place, since every path is built off of it. Just some examples, the staircase on addermire, the dining hall at the dukes palace, and the giant open room on the conservatory. The only one that didn't feel like it had a proper focal point was clockwork mansion, which was probably be design, while the only level that felt like it did in the first game was the boyle mansion... The DLC might have been better, I honestly don't remember, but it was my biggest nitpick about the first game... and its such a small and subjective nitpick that I have no idea how many people would even consider it a flaw.

That line about trying to use a small fish to swim between some bars reminded me of Prey 2017. That game was honestly amazing for how much it accounted for player choice. I hope you go over it some time because I feel like it's underrated because of the initial response by fanboys blaming Arkane Studios for it not being the bounty hunter game and as if Arkane was responsible for that.

I've only played as Corvo, because of Stephen Russell's voice.

Great videos man, I really appreciate these in depth reviews. I don't even watch reviews shorter than like 15 minutes anymore lol

I wonder how the game would've gone if it was literally just about Corvo being sent to Karnaca by Emily to investigate the political and almost very real war between the Serkonos Elite, (Duke and Grand Guard.) the Howlers and the Overseers. The game could've easily been another game about political twists, plots, betrayals with some Magic thrown in and the Outsider being as dejected and monotone about his morbid curiosity about whether things will turn to shit or if Corvo will, 'surprise' him again. I literally only just had this idea and in my head, I can see it playing out FAR better than repeating the Delilah Dilemma... Again.

I know it ain't perfect, but I loved it. Mostly the designs of just about everything with the Clockwork mansion easily being one of my favorite video game levels of all time (in terms of visuals). I was a dumb kid when it was coming out so I'm one of those autists who bought the collectors edition. I still have the mask and one day I want to use my modeling skills to really make the damn thing pop. Still it was fun listening to you, looking forward to the oblivion vid, what a fucking experience that will be.

Looking back on it I can clearly say what I personally didnt like about it, gameplay aside. Corvo talking. Emily not being the "white empress" i worked for her to be in DH1. It being revealed in the first place that Corvo is indeed her father. Everything they did with the Outsider, from his past to the voids design changes to where he ends up. I didnt want him to be a human with a boring tragic backstory who needs help, i had fun with him just being an eternally bored unknowable alien god who sometimes helps us just because. Delilah being the antagonist again. Jessamine still being the heart. Having to retake the throne again. And like a million tiny other things i rolled my eyes at. It had none of the magic and none of the mystery and allure of the first one.

I played as Emily because it felt it was her turn, her game.

You kept bringing up The Phantom Pain and now I just want an 8 hour analysis video of the Metal Gear series

Say what you want about the dialogue but you can’t deny that Stephen Russell saves and even enhances that shit

Damn fine review. Thanks for all of the effort that you put into it!

I played my first playthrough with Corvo and I really loved it. I still enjoyed Corvo as a protagonist because I liked seeing him return to his old stomping grounds. So much of the first Dishonored is focused on Corvo as a foreigner, and to watch him return to his hometown was really engaging to me. It’s a different idea than Emily not realizing what’s happening to her subjects, but I love Corvo returning to a home thst he had been removed from for so long. I loved helping that hometown grow and develop and removing the tyrants who were controlling it.

These videos are exactly what I need in my life. I love your analytical and in-depth studies and I'm so glad I found you through Morrowind!

These are really solid, logical and high quality reviews, man. Poignant and tight. Kudos.

I had an almost no lethal playthrough as Corvo, being able to posses everyone in a room one after the other and I had the bonecharm that leaves them unconsius when you leave them.

I disagree with the use of the term 'appeasement' here. The writing decisions of the 2010's were not the desperation of helpless studios; they were the marketing decisions of powerful publishers seeking returns on investments during a controversy. That activists were never fully satisfied with this was ultimately a feature, not a bug.

I was super excited when I saw the thumbnail. Once again, this was incredibly well thought out and my kind of content. Keep it up.

I started re playing dishonored 2 and was going for a low lethality run... The bone charm that allows you to choke people faster was the very last I found...

The part about chaos is ... well, the first time I've heard that detection affected the chaos system in the first game. I always believed it was a morality system as the game, with the wiki even supporting this: "It has been reported that, for high chaos to be achieved, Corvo, Daud, or Emily must kill 20% of the human population per mission. If total kills exceed 50% of the population seen, the city is irrevocably thrown into chaos, and the very high chaos ending is depicted. However, these thresholds are not absolute, as there are several other factors that increase or decrease chaos." You said yourself that it was changed because of the "frankly disingenuous critisim that the chaos system dishonoured 1 was just a morality meter", when killing many people stealthly will still cause the high chaos ending. You later elaborate this with the 'Steven' example, but your example of how the chaos system works is ... well, a morality system. You kill, loudly or quietly, the game reacts. Not sure what your point on it was... along with that an the door code bit. Felt out of place?

I’m a woman, it’s not sexist to women to have Emily’s tools be more sleek and elegant, there’s nothing wrong with sleek and elegant

Your recent videos on Dishonored have warranted me to go back and explore the series once again with a new perspective. Keep soldiering on lad, you make some good work.

Glad to see that you are still putting out quality content 👌

Something about the Upgrade System you didnt mention, was how bad some of the Upgrade placements were. I got BOTH Sneaking Boots only the LAST Level, which makes Stealth playthroughs in the first NG extremely annoying. And I never even got the faster chocke out Bonecharm.

I felt like playing the dishonored games and it seems im not the only one. I think I've seen 5 different videos on this series within this month, 2 of which I've seen today. Thisll be the 3rd. Weird...

Thank you for putting in your explanation about the percentages of those who played corvo vs emily. I re-watched that section because the numbers looked wrong, but also read your explanation.

I loved your review of dishonored 2 more than the first game due to overviewing gameplay abilities and comparing them to each other, as i feel like most of the reviewers don’t care much about. But i love to learn it still- given i have zero hours a day to play games myself, not even talking about testing every mechanic the game has. So deeper reviews like yours really help me to not miss out on conversations with my friends who played the games I didn’t- thanks a lot for doing it ! :0 I appreciate it a lot c:

just a different perspective here, looking at the same thing. Dishonored 2 accounted for more possibilities so that none of them was absolutely required. this was a deliberate design decision that offers the player more freedom to explore not only the world but also the gameplay. Dishonored doesn't quite have that playground element that its sequel has, and the simulation in general feels less complex in the original title, making the experience feel more curated and linear. that spontaneity that makes Dishonored 2 really spark feels more scripted in Dishonored. i'm not sure about the point you're trying to make about differences between the two games' use of the chaos system, it seems like splitting hairs so i'll let that be (the point about peoples' ~deaths~ causing higher chaos (yes because of a decision, okay, but it's still based on deaths... *shrug*)). also players generally thought the game made high chaos a more viable way to play the game, so i don't really know what to say there. the combat in the game is definitely improved in 2. the story isn't why i play the Dishonored series. i enjoy the cartoonish, colorful characters, the enthusiastic voice acting, but i don't really scrutinize the details of the story. for me it just lays the bedrock for the gameplay, which is really the reason i play. the world-building, the mise en scene, i love all that, because it draws me into the world. Dishonored is a great game, but a lot of people including me prefer the sequel because how much more expansive the gameplay is by comparison. most of the criticism i've seen leveraged against the game is with regard to story (justifiably so, i won't argue that) and performance on PC, which still is not ideal (i just play at 60 fps for a 100% smooth experience, tho 120/144 would be preferable). i think it's great that Dishonored 2 gives you the option to play it without any powers. this becomes a completely different experience from playing the game with them, and that's the point. i didn't play the game without powers till probably my 20th run, and i loved the experience. it was definitely more challenging than with powers, but that just turned my focus to different elements of the gameplay that weren't priority before. you seem to be stuck on this idea that certain abilities should be "required" to accomplish things, but that strays away from the design philosophy of providing myriad ways of overcoming an obstacle. heck, you're not even required to fight Delilah, if you find a way. it's not intuitive, but it's rewarding to discover for oneself. you talk about being able to use your powers to inhabit animals in order to infiltrate as wasteful and that it's easier just entering another way, but you neglect to mention that doing so allows you to enter a completely different part of the building (in this case Addermire Institute). entering this way might actually preserve magic because you're able to circumvent a large number of enemies. and different abilities have different pros and cons. for instance, using shadow walk you don't have to worry about knocking out and hiding a guard. EDIT: i do like how your BioShock critique addresses the lack of actual player agency as they're forced to inject himself with a plasmid. Dishonored 2 allows you to progress without that plasmid shot. what's wrong with that for people who want more of a challenge and to play in a specific way? TLDR (didn't mean to write an essay lol): Dishonored may have a better, more cohesive story, but Dishonored 2 has better gameplay. also one nitpick is the lack of re-recording commentary that contains statements are just not true. as i recall you saying in your Elder Scrolls video, a lot of people tend to listen to videos like podcasts rather than explicitly watch them, so many people may not be aware of your corrections.

I love Dishonoerd 2 even more than Dishonoerd to be honest

Hey man, big fan of the channel I really enjoy how you go through games and explain everything as in depth as you do, great content. Seriously entertaining.

Hey! Just discovered your channel and think this is an awesome video. I’m a massive Dishnored fan, and this basically sums up exactly how I feel about it.

It's good to critique things you love, though my impression of what you said I find off is the powers segment. Like the rat swarm isn't only a lethal option, its great for summoning a swarm and possessing a rat to sneak past enemies. Also while there may be easier options in the game it defeats the point of the game and that's self challenge. What I love about Dishonoured games is it's kind of down to you to create your own fun with the powers and see what you can do with them. Otherwise it's a fair critique, good video man. keep it up :D

I know a lotta ppl dont agree with this but at least the core gameplay and level design is a ton better than in the 1st dishonored

Dishonored 2 is a pinnacle of game design IMO. One of my favorite games of all time. It's atmosphere is also unrivaled and surpasses the first one IMO

Now, i've watched probably dozens of videos on Dishonored and its sequels (mainly because i have this strange love/hate relationship with the series) but for some combination of reasons i really liked yours. Maybe it's the serious delivery or the fact that you go really in-depth on the design and effect of every aspect of gameplay and story, but it was strangely enthralling. Anyways you got a sub!

I really liked Dishonored 2. I did not feel that much was off, but I had not played the first game since it came out years ago. Makes me want to go back and compare them a bit. Than again, I also really just LOVED the gameplay of dishonored. Thanks again for the amazing video though.

I agree with most of this, though I think the game would be worse off without the trifecta of Corvo's powerset, Emily's powerset, or no powers, and I think it's pretty incredible they kept the levels engaging for all three while keeping them distinct. I do however concede that it would have been really interesting to see them balance the whole game around some of the absurd stunts you can pull off with Far Reach (especially when combined with Agility and the right bonecharms) the only mission where Far Reach truly shines is the second one since there's so much open space to the area past the docks. I also think you could have focused a little more on the improvements to the fundamentals of the combat system, maybe I'm alone in this because I don't hear it mentioned much but while the mechanics are relatively similar other than combat knockouts the game in their fancy new engine and all that just feels so much more solid than the first game.

Can't believe this guy only has that many subs. I'm hoping for the best for you my guy. To many videos to come

Also to add to the idea of playing as Emily's kids, instead of having bad dialogue to tell that corvo is her dad you could have a scene where you see his grave that says "beloved father"

If they make a sequel, they should choose a different group of people. They could have someone from a noble family as the main character with their family falling from grace due to noble in-fighting and have the game be about rebuilding their family back up.

I played the shit out of the first one and the second game. I enjoyed them but the story in this one is kind of eh...

I've really enjoyed going back through your library lately Pat. Also, I've never taken the time to watch the frame-by-frame of Corvo using stop time to murder the guards during the coup (03:47). I'm pretty impressed that there are actually frames depicting each one's death, definitely a cool little inclusion, even if there are some inconsistencies.

the high chaos for psycho killing the traitors can be justified in a doc on guards cabin, after you kill mortimer ramsey. Some of them are being threatened

56:30 Hey, thanks for checking out the Nerevarine Prophecies TES3MP server! I enjoyed your Morrowind analysis.

The outsider should not have been given a backstory. The near cosmic horror and intrigue he brought gave the first game spice. Instead he ended up being some edgelord goth I knew from highschool. I think this video has put some answers to what I couldn't put my finger on since playing Dishonored 2. Thankyou That and I think because Dishonored 1 in its entirety felt like but one small vignette of the world so when I saw it continued corvo and Emily's story I was already disilusioned.

man this actully exspands my understanding of this curiouse game thanks so much!

This Channel is exactly what I´ve been looking for

There is a female guard who on the high chaos route with attempt to pressure a woman into a theaft, but ultimately ends up throwing the woman off the roof. In low chaos it's a similar start, but they're revealed to be in a relationship and planning to run away together (no murder this time)

Interesting video. On the last topic, i think Delilah has been dishonored as well, if we take her backstory as the truth. Bastard daughter of Emily's grandfather, kicked out with her mother for the crime of Jessamine, mother dead from the debtors prison, raped or at least pressured into sleeping with Anton Sokolov. If her story is true, she definitely was Dishonored. I do agree that if we get a Dishonored 3, I don't want her to return in any form greater than obscure lore, or a name drop from an old coven member or something.

11:55 I want you to know I laughed far too hard at that very silly joke, thanks for brightening my day XD

Great review, timing was immaculate, beat this a week ago and wanted to get a handle on why people saw the game as a bit disappointing. Makes sense, great content. Got a sub

yeah, the story in D2 is quite shallow, its like it was thought of in the last month of development, or a side effect of bending the knee, who knows...

I heavily disagree with the fact that far reach is a downgrade. Yes, the mechanics are confusing when you first start using it, but there are so many things you can do with far reach that you can’t even attempt to accomplish with blink. People act like it is this totally broken accident of a power that the developers just threw in to be alternative. In reality, I think it actually solves the big problem that blink had, which was its low skill ceiling.

Good review! Thanks for the content!

I saw in a interview with one of the developers that the Jindosh level was meant to have 3 outcomes with one being you spare him. He says that mostly everyone in the dev team wanted that but couldn't make it due to Budget

this video felt wayyyy shorter than it actually is (which is a good thing!)

Was the sound in the countdown from Max Payne 3?

As someone who generally loves the gameplay of the second game, but still liked the first game more for some reason that I couldn't pinpoint this video really helped me pinpoint those reasons so thanks and great video!

13:57 Dude, I love that even while criticizing plot holes you offer a plot-consistent explanation as for why the thing could have happened. It's easy to strawman; it's more creative and entertaining to demonstrate the thing itself, fixed.

What they did to the Outsider in Dishonored 2 and Death of the Outsider was outright criminal.

The story was lacking for sure but I liked how open your options were by having so many powers available. Also NG+ was my favorite implementation, if Dishonored 1 had it I would be jumping for joy. I hated that Dishonored didn't have NG+ so I couldn't have Bend Time for level 2 and so on

Man I don't care for the tangent about door codes. Who cares where the 3 numbers came from. Let's move it along to what actually matters.

Dude I just wanna say that I fucking adore this video. I love both Dishonored games and if future Arkane games took notes of the shit you talk about in this vid it would be amazing. Somewhat excited for Deathloop.

Dishonored operates on a soft magic system. In a way, it's a lot like a fairy tale, which is what makes it so charming to me.

Really interesting video. I came to dishonored 2 for the first time last year and definitely agree that it lacked the consistency of the first game thoughit's still a very fun game. What did you think of the new way powers worked in the Death of the Outsider game? I actually really loved it but it seems that most people online didn't enjoy that.

I think if they were going to include Delilah in the pattern of non-lethally 'dishonoring' your targets by robbing them of what makes them a threat, they should've figured out a way to make Delilah give up the throne on her own. Delilah isn't dangerous because she has magic powers, she's dangerous because she's the most ambitious person in Dunwall. The Outsider beats you over the head with the idea that she fought tooth and nail to get where she is today, regardless of any literal magic powers. I think it would've been really interesting if they found a way to rob her of her ambition, either by showing her definitive proof that her plan could never work, or showing her that it would all be futile even if she succeeded. Maybe you could sit down and have a debate with her over her long term plans, or somehow call the Outsider during the final mission and have him appear to give Delilah all of his memories. He'd be showing her what it's like to have all that power at your fingertips for thousands of years. If he's eternally bored of his position, Delilah would eventually get bored too, and there's nothing she could do to fix that since she'd be making herself omnipotent. Having that kind of revelation would break her, and I think it'd be really cool to see her realize this in real time and just give up on the spot. I'm sure somebody else has already come up with a better version of this idea, but it's just something I found myself thinking about while watching this video

the royal conservatory has a female grand guard throwing a civilian off of a roof for not stealing something for her, i could go in game and figure out her name but im too lazy. also i primarily use dopelganger to distract large groups of enemies during nlg runs when the way is blocked by a bunch of npc's or there are >4 enemies and i simply dont upgrade the middle tree and just use it as a distraction and then it disorients the enemies nearby the dopelganger when it disappears, also using it in conjunction with mesmerise and the domino effect skill you can take out groups of 8+ enemies non lethally in a situation where it'd be either super time consuming or damn near impossible without powers (you would have to make a noise with gunfire or hitting a wall or the floor near an enemy to lure him away from the group)

These are some of my favorite games, and its nice to see a deep look into the story that I really didn't notice because of the game play

Leadhead's review and this review sum up my exact issues with dishonored 2. This game just didn't seem right in so many ways, but you two hit the nail on the head for explaining why.

I was not expecting the Boulder Punch bit.

whoa, hearing BoulderPunch out of nowhere was a suprise to be sure, but a welcome one!