DIY CHEAP $250+ Amazon eBike Conversion Tutorial - 1000W 48V Front Hub Kit. TORQUE ARMS SUGGESTED
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Күн бұрын~TORQUE ARMS ARE HIGHLY SUGGESTED FOR THIS INSTALL~
That way you minimize the risk of getting hurt from failed forks.
Torque arm products: amzn.to/3EeeCFm
DIY tutorial on how to convert a 26" mountain bike into an eBike with a $250* 1000W 48V Front Hub Kit. Unboxing, assembly, overview, test ride and review.
*$250 is only the cost of the kit, and does not include the cost of the bicycle, and battery.
Materials:
1000W 48V Front Hub Kit with controller - amzn.to/3wYE7I2
Other versions - amzn.to/3NEDs42
48V 13aH battery - amzn.to/3a8H1kK
26" Bike - amzn.to/3GzHJDF
Optional Materials:
Bike Tools - amzn.to/3z8nn2D
Bike Stand - amzn.to/3wZlOT1
XT60 plugs - amzn.to/3JPHUwZ
Soldering Iron - amzn.to/3z8nuLB
Heat Shrink Tube - amzn.to/3POw345
Heat Gun - amzn.to/38AFTpy
Table of Contents:
0:00 Intro
3:24 Unboxing
5:32 Testing Kit
8:29 BIke overview
10:22 Install brake levers & throttle
15:22 Install pedal assist
17:31 Install bag
17:43 Install front hub
21:11 Solder battery (or you could use wire crimps)
25:52 Install battery
26:50 Hook up wires
29:23 Cable management
30:05 Functions Test (throttle, brake and pedal assist)
31:00 Sound Test
31:27 Test Ride
32:44 Pedal Assist
35:35 Throttle Test & Max Speed
36:42 Uphill Test
38:39 Sprinted Full Throttling in Parking Lot
41:41 Conclusion
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@ridefast0 8 ай бұрын
Hi - when you want to solder a joint between power wires, its a good idea to cut the wires to different lengths so that the two parts of the joint are not next to each other. The heatshrink can be a dodgy insulator if you push the two soldered joints together under sleeving, but if you shift one solder joint by a couple of inches along the wire then each solder joint is next to undisturbed insulation on the other wire. If the solder joints are adjacent, then sharp edges from your solder joints could cut through the heat shrink to make a short circuit, and there isn't any fuse!
@ColinLeung 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@ronb6182 2 ай бұрын
You said it better than I could word it. That's a good practice when splicing wires. I would stagger it about 2 inches. Then the wire will lay nicely together. 73
@ronb6182 2 ай бұрын
@@ColinLeunga fuse is a smart idea. Most auto type fuse will work nicely. 73
@ronb6182 2 ай бұрын
I wonder if this would work on an adult tricycle. I would have to measure the front wheel. 73
@scubatrucker6806 Жыл бұрын
Cool video. I been wanting to do this to mountain bike and been nervous about tackling this project but after watching this video I think I can achieve this project. Thanks man.👍👍
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Awesome. I'm glad you found it helpful
@themanbrodude Жыл бұрын
Did you end up doing it?
@scubatrucker6806 Жыл бұрын
@@themanbrodude no I haven't yet
@lazybbones Жыл бұрын
I finally found one that works. My mistake was, not ordering mine from Amazon like you did. Got my third one from Amazon, and oh, what a difference! The controller actually had all the connections, a better design for connecting the battery, a very well written instruction book, and it actually goes about 37 mph max, as opposed to 6. Very glad I found this video!
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you got one that works! 37mph is fast
@armanakter4500 11 ай бұрын
can you attach the link to the one you purchased
@lazybbones 11 ай бұрын
@@armanakter4500 hope this helps. You'll need to buy the battery separately www.amazon.com/AW-Electric-Bicycle-Powerfuwww.amazon.com/AW-Electric-Bicycle-Powerful-Conversion/dp/B00YBWA5VC?pd_rd_w=AnqBH&content-id=amzn1.sym.d6de0d9a-b966-4e97-9c0f-b9688b6db068&pf_rd_p=d6de0d9a-b966-4e97-9c0f-b9688b6db068&pf_rd_r=4JVFHH7V4E1HGW725EWP&pd_rd_wg=ZLCsF&pd_rd_r=b3d62d2e-3b82-4cb9-8739-d8cdf170fb45&pd_rd_i=B00YBWA5VC&psc=1&ref_=pd_bap_m_grid_dv_rp_0_1_ec_tl-Conversion/dp/B00YBWA5VC?pd_rd_w=AnqBH&content-id=amzn1.sym.d6de0d9a-b966-4e97-9c0f-b9688b6db068&pf_rd_p=d6de0d9a-b966-4e97-9c0f-b9688b6db068&pf_rd_r=4JVFHH7V4E1HGW725EWP&pd_rd_wg=ZLCsF&pd_rd_r=b3d62d2e-3b82-4cb9-8739-d8cdf170fb45&pd_rd_i=B00YBWA5VC&psc=1&ref_=pd_bap_m_grid_dv_rp_0_1_ec_t
@ColinLeung 11 ай бұрын
@@armanakter4500 Unfortunately the one I purchased is no longer available. Here's a link to a similar product amzn.to/46cfWpf
@kingaetheral Жыл бұрын
Only video for this kit thanks watched it the whole way through really good explanation if how to set it up 10/10
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the comment!
@Rob337_aka_CancelProof 9 ай бұрын
21:29 if you're looking to make sure that you have a good waterproof connection you can easily slice some Thin slivers off a hot glue stick and after putting the heat shrink around the wire Slide the slivers of hot glue inside before you heat it and it melts the glue at the same time the tube shrinks and squeezes out all the excess to make a nice waterproof seal
@ColinLeung 9 ай бұрын
That's a great tip! Thanks for sharing
@christopherpike9907 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Very detailed without being too much ! Thank you
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment, Christopher!
@jasperoliger Жыл бұрын
For those wondering the kit plus battery now comes out to over 500 dollars on Amazon
@anakinskymonke3670 Жыл бұрын
Bruh
@Kodico Жыл бұрын
@@ebkbk9902 yeah but adding a battery will come out to about $500
@bobblake1004 Жыл бұрын
@@Kodico which kit and battery?
@Kodico Жыл бұрын
@@bobblake1004 I got the 1000w 48v voilamart kit with the 48v 14ah viset battery both from Amazon and everything came out to about $500
@bobblake1004 Жыл бұрын
@@Kodico how is it so far? Any issues? What's the top speed and range of 1 full charge?
@josephwoehlerii2855 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the excellent video effort! Once used, you'll be hooked on these bikes because they're fun and the gas savings will pay for the bike in the first 6 months of use. This video is a classic reminder of why you should store your bikes inside of a shed or your home!
@ColinLeung 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment. I haven't heard of many people who have ridden ebikes going back to fully manual bikes.
@coxyofnewp Жыл бұрын
The reason for the washer to go against the outer nut with the slightly bent over clip - Is to hold the nut and to stop it coming loose ! If anyone gets this kit please make sure to get washer to fit in correct place to stop wheel nut coming loose.. Just a heads up for you.. If it conflict with nut to stop you doing nut tight, bend it out of way and then bend back over after nut tight..
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your input!
@kevindelaney6836 Жыл бұрын
Great video especially like the part where the Female plug was put on to the battery for safety reasons very smart way to do it
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin!
@griffinf5781 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Colin awesome video, just subscribed! And I want to ask, what do you do with the kit after the review for the video?
@ColinLeung 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Griffin, I posted the entire bike and kit without the battery on Craigslist if you're interested. I'm in the the SF Bay Area. Or I can ship the kit for less than MSRP. Thanks!
@vengellesenitsuga6362 Жыл бұрын
Great video.. Soo informative... Thanks been wanting to do this...
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Let us know how it goes if you do do it.
@stevebeutelspacher1157 7 ай бұрын
Great video - thanks!
@ColinLeung 7 ай бұрын
I appreciate the comment!
@fjdstudios4485 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for been a live saver
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@freehugs9223 Жыл бұрын
Sounds sick. I have the rear motor and I 💕 love it. 40 mph for 😊 sure.
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
40mph on an ebike is quick. Nice!
@casper_42O Жыл бұрын
Your the only person I've seen actully stops at the stop signs on a bike 😄
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
lol. I don't want to upload incriminating evidence online. A dude got arrested for posting himself speeding on the freeway.
@casper_42O Жыл бұрын
@@ColinLeung ayo you know what my Boi I respect that got a smart head on ya shoulders. Anyway you ever mess with gas kits or just electric?
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
@@casper_42O I installed a 50cc gas kit on a bike over 15 years ago. It was difficult to start with the choking mechanism, and required mixing gasoline with 2 stroke oil. Electric seems easier
@casper_42O Жыл бұрын
Yea man I want the ebike kit but only got Gbike kit money lmfao ughhhh
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
@@casper_42O The gas kits may have gotten better since I last installed one
@ZipHipPip 7 ай бұрын
1: thanks for the tutorial. i made this one about a year ago and am loving it. 2: i got a flat tire on the front wheel and i wanted to ask for advice on how to repair it.
@ColinLeung 7 ай бұрын
Hello, I'm glad you like the ebike. You will need to remove the front wheel off of the fork, and pull the tire off like a regular bicycle. There are special plastic tire levers to do this. Google "front bicycle tire removal". Then assuming the tube is flat you can either patch the tire with a bicycle tube repair kit, or replace it. Google "patch bicycle tire, or replace bicycle tube". I hope this helps! Here's a link to levers and a patch kit amzn.to/3syOfrD
@suntzuwarsword1964 9 ай бұрын
Thank you colin
@ColinLeung 9 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@ianmangham4570 Жыл бұрын
If it jolts it's one of your 3 phase wires not connected properly coming from the motor to the controller, red blue and yellow usual colors for phase wires
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight
@archiveglide Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Thanks Passion Fun!
@commentingisawasteoftime7195 Жыл бұрын
You are correct about the torque arms("fork stiffener"). I blew apart my suspension forks because I didn't install one.
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that. How many watts was your front hub, and what type of fork did you have?
@commentingisawasteoftime7195 Жыл бұрын
@@ColinLeung it was the Hilltopper summit which I think is a 750 watt motor with a 48v battery and the forks were standard air shocks with some kind of softer metal dropouts. I have ridgid steel forks on right now and I have some steel springer forks in the mail. I just threw a rear hub motor on it too
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
@@commentingisawasteoftime7195 Got it. Hopefully you didn't get hurt too bad. Wow, front and hear hubs. That sounds like a fun ebike.
@jjmcwill1881 8 ай бұрын
@@commentingisawasteoftime7195This is my worry. I just ordered a front hub. I did by two torque arms to attach. Still concerned that it might not be enough.
@ZebbMassiv Жыл бұрын
I've had one of these kits on my bike for 8 years now. Even with a steel frame, I've already went through two frames that cracked in half right at the forks. The torque loosens the forks. Good idea is to reneforce the frame with that special fiber tape that hardens in water.
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that. Thanks for the suggestion!
@Flineki 9 ай бұрын
That's a good idea. Not an electric but one of those 80cc kits, I had built one and a couple months later after frequent riding, bolts started to come loose from not using Loctite. I chased them but I still ended up wrapping my chain tensioner up into my spokes because the hardware was shaken loose. Completely destroyed my back rim. I cant wait to get my hands on one of these electric kits, a lot less moving parts which means less possible problems. I'm still going to Loctite anything I don't want to fall off lol. I don't think you can use those motorized bicycles in most City's anymore unfortunately. Id like to have one of each.
@jjmcwill1881 8 ай бұрын
That's a bit alarming. I bought two torque arms to reinforce but I'm wondering if I should just install this on the rear? It's billed as front wheel can I put it on rear?
@PROTEGEtheRAPPER 10 ай бұрын
Awesome Vid, Bro!
@ColinLeung 10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@lazybbones Жыл бұрын
I saw on here somewhere a guy had one going too slow and ordered a new controller from Amazon, and it worked a lot better. But I don't know how to order a controller that is compatible with my hub motor.
@Zaj88 Жыл бұрын
21:05 - You can choose which way the cable comes out of the hub, depending on how you place it in the axle. Pretty nice video! What's the rated continious amps on the controller? For my own curiosity, it would've been nice to see the other side of the hub motor - I'm curious to see how it's different than a rear hub. It probably doesn't have threading for a freewheel I suppose?
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
According to the Amazon Q&A's the controller is rated 21A with a max peak of 30A. The other side of the hub is identical without the cord without threading for a freewheel. You can see it here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nt2TfM2InKqWYoE.html There is a rear wheel version that has a cassette installed amzn.to/3yJW1ig
@Zaj88 Жыл бұрын
@@ColinLeung I'm sorry - I could've read the description and found that information on my own. Same goes for the other side of the hub motor - I didn't even notice that you were showing the other side of the hub motor when testing throttle - eventho I was actively looking for it throughout the majority of the video. I guess I got caught up in your video 🙂(which is not a bad thing). Thank you for your efforts - they are much appreciated!
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
@@Zaj88 No problem. It's okay. It's a lot to go through to find the amp specs and clip of the other side. I appreciate the questions!
@tenncutt Жыл бұрын
Rubber spring on brake cable?? It's only a dust cover and provides no tension
@RemingtinArms 8 ай бұрын
Imagine getting a front and rear hub going on one controller 😮
@ColinLeung 8 ай бұрын
That would be cool
@theaussienurseflipper.8113 9 ай бұрын
Noice build mate
@ColinLeung 9 ай бұрын
Thanks mate!
@ItsJusttmj Жыл бұрын
glad i watched this video, because soon im going to convert my mountain bike with the same thing... Cheaper than buying an actual fully electric bike.
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Let us know how your conversion goes!
@EataPeachMike Жыл бұрын
Have you ever put two hub e-motors on a bike be for and if u have do you have a video of it?
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Sorry, I haven't and don't have a video of one.
@beezysbeatz4924 9 ай бұрын
All you need is torque converters for frint forks. Full suspension makes the ride so much better
@ColinLeung 9 ай бұрын
Yes, that's a good idea
@TreDeuce-qw3kv 9 ай бұрын
How do you get the speedometer function on your phone? Great review👍👍
@ColinLeung 9 ай бұрын
I used a free app called Speedometer on my iphone. I'm sure there's others available
@davidmiller4758 11 ай бұрын
is the motor and controller able to go to fifty two volts? i got a 2k watt front wheel 48 n up kit but the screeen doesnt work higher than 48, 9everything else is sweet tho and it does about 37 mph as a front wheel as they have less torquee than a rear wheel. i went front wheel due to it being a bmx build and didnt want to spreaed my rear axle. the front wheels fit great tho at 100 to 110 mm widee though and i figureed worse to worse i could always scrap the chain and put th0e front 0wheel onto the rear and buy some disc brake adapters since the hub is compatible. making it an all electric cruiser since the 13 ah battery alreaedy geets me 24 miles easy at top speed with just barely any sag or drop
@ColinLeung 11 ай бұрын
I used a 52v battery with partial charge on this setup to minimize damage, and it ran, but the manufacture told me that it was not compatible. I read that most 48v controllers can handle 52v, but I would buy a 52v motor and controller to be safe.
@SharonBlake-iv1ff 10 ай бұрын
Your video instructions are pretty good except for the spot where your head was blocking your hands at around the 22:50 mark. I am a seasoned person looking to convert my old Huffy mountain bike into an ebike for getting around the foothills of the Cotoctin mountain in Western Maryland. Do you think this bike kit would work with the pedal assist on it. The up hill is rather steep but I can hike it without loosing my breath. Give me your thoughts.
@ColinLeung 10 ай бұрын
Hello Sharon, if you're already able to bike the hill without losing your breath then this kit would only make it easier. You may want to verify that the battery dimensions will fit your bike frame. Do you have solid forks? Suspension forks may snap, and adding torque arms would help provide additional safety should you choose to install a front hub motor.
@rabianiko83 Жыл бұрын
I have a ladies frame. And I'd love to have a conversion kit like this however I m not sure where the connection box would go on it... Any ideas?
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Hello, You may be able to rotate the bag and fasten it along vertical frame tube under the seat, or diagonal tube if you relocate the battery. Another option would be to place it behind the seat, or on a rear bike rack, but you may have to extend some of the wires.
@rezaarjmand7866 8 ай бұрын
I have a Recumbent bike with 20" front and 26" wheel in the back. do they make 20" power wheels? I would rather not mess with the rear wheel and the gears.
@ColinLeung 8 ай бұрын
Yes they do. Here's an example of one. amzn.to/48znDan Rear hubs may be safer because the front forks can break with a front hub even with torque arms.
@sidoniasknight 9 ай бұрын
I just got a 52v 1500 kit for 269 and an 8% off off coupon so less then 269 at Amazon did not put it together yet waiting for the battery to get here.
@ColinLeung 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like a good deal. Let me know how it goes. Ride safe!
@lazybbones Жыл бұрын
Finally got my motor and battery. Should all components be connected to controller just to test the motor? And should the battery be completely charged, just to verify the motor at least works? I have everything plugged in ( minus pedal sensor), including LCD speedometer. Everything indicates I have power, but the motor/wheel does not turn.
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Not all components need to be connected. The brake and pedal sensors do not need to be connected. The battery, on/off switch, throttle, and hub should be connected to the controller at minimum. The battery does not need to be fully charged, but it should be sufficiently charged to move the motor (possibly 20+%). I'd try switching the blue, green and yellow motor cables around. Oftentimes they're not colored correctly.
@loganschelly7318 2 жыл бұрын
Came here from Craigslist. This seems like a steal of a deal! (Or should I say steel of a deal ;)
@ColinLeung 2 жыл бұрын
Haha. Nice pun. I responded to your email if you're still interested in purchasing it.
@dalehall3110 Жыл бұрын
Ok, first you needed XT90's instead of XT60's. Also the shifters should be changed to thumb type to kinda declutter your bars. Other than that nice video, thanks for taking the time to do this!!
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestions!
@ianmangham4570 Жыл бұрын
Xt60s are good enough for these amps easily
@marthamryglod291 Жыл бұрын
He's nowhere near drawing 90 amps. The anti-spark is the only reason to upgrade to xt90 at this power level.
@matthewgreen3289 Жыл бұрын
Hi Colin, great video! How can the pedal assist be turned on and off? Also, are there various levels of pedal assistance on this kit?
@ColinLeung 11 ай бұрын
The kit did not come with a controller, so I wasn't able to turn off, or adjust the pedal assist levels. I suppose you could unplug the pedal assist sensor if you wanted to turn it off.
@stevelouie5928 9 ай бұрын
I was just thinking it would be easy to make an ev motorbike this way. Skipping the pedal assist would make installation so much simpler.
@ColinLeung 9 ай бұрын
@@stevelouie5928 That sounds like a great idea. Let me know if you decide to make one, and how it goes.
@pedieasuncion6875 Жыл бұрын
Hi I bought a Fabang kit n I put everything together so far but I haven’t got a battery so when I get a battery will it come with the correct plug for the rim?
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Hello Pedie, I believe the Bafang kits come with the Anderson plug connector, so you need to find a battery that has that end (may be difficult), use an adapter (easiest), or crimp or solder a new connection to match.
@dmannfishing7425 9 ай бұрын
Just to let you know if you didn't already but a warning on front fork hubs.Most bike forks are not designed to pull a bike like it would with a front hub motor.Could be an issue for some
@PenzoGrittyStem 8 ай бұрын
I'm on my 2nd front hub build and you're 100% right , it is absolutely necessary to add a torque arm to the front axel/fork . I used a basic fork like the one in the video , and it popped both sides where the for holds the axel , I was actually shocked , I did some research and found that torque arms must be installed . As far as the front shox go , my personal experience was that the front shox is a good idea , solely based on impact the front fork received. The fork slightly absorbed some of the impact something I found extremely helpful and even safer , with a 1000w front hub , you hit pot holes pretty damm hard and that extra absorption can save you a fractured fork. My first build was a hardtail 1000w 48 v and it got stolen sadly , I'm trying to re create the build again because it was flawless and smoked 99% of the bikes out there . Wear a helmet and remember no cars or pedestrians are used to bikes moving that fast so its up to us to play safe amd be smart . This video helped alot with understanding wiring, thank you! , first build I had some help not this time so it's greatly appreciated.
@lazybbones Жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for posting. Question, please. Are you connecting the battery directly to the motor to test it, or going through the controller? You didn't explain that real well. Also what are the specs of the battery you are using? I see the requirements listed for that motor are 17-20 ah. But I can't find a 48 volt with that rating. All I can find is a 48 volt with 13 ah. Any advice? Thank you.
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Hello, everything plugs into the controller including the battery. The layout can be seen here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nt2TfM2InKqWYoE.html The ah is just the battery capacity, and determines the range. 13ah should work, but you won't go as far as a 20ah.
@tcap7917 Жыл бұрын
Sporadic heavy load is ok but this is where you'll have failures if it's allowed to heat up. Inatiquit wire and connector sizing for the loads. Cheap components in the controller. Don't put it in a bag if you will ride continuous beyond 50%. Also...Those brakes weren't designed for those speeds or extra weight.
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, T Cap!
@marthamryglod291 Жыл бұрын
@@ColinLeung if brakes are not good enough, I found Shimano deore, or XT to be a huge improvement. I did that upgrade to my motorized bike years ago. Won't work great in the rain, but that's all v brakes.
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
@@marthamryglod291 Thanks for the suggestion!
@MrDegsy69 10 күн бұрын
@@ColinLeung you are getting a lot of squealing from the V-brakes. It sounds like they need the brake blocks either cleaning, readjusting or replacing. The rim may also be contaminated with oily road slick so a good scrubbing with isopropyl alchohol would help out here. Those comments about the brakes being underpowered are also true. You should ideally consider a better quality aftermarket rigid steel fork upgrade with a disc brake mount to take hydraulic brake calipers. That is if the motor hub has disc rotor mounting bosses to allow for this. A 1000 watt motor hub is considered to be quite powerfull for a front wheel conversion and it would definitely benefit from the extra stopping power an hydraulic disc brake would bring.
@ColinLeung 4 күн бұрын
@@MrDegsy69 Thanks for the tip. I ended up passing the project on to someone else.
@plum1000 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. It's got plenty of details but not cumbersome and boring. Also, it is enough to say, "I can do it!"
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment, Phil. I'm glad you found it helpful and were able to feel confident in doing it yourself
@verofpv6152 Жыл бұрын
So is it just set at its highest power or can you change it ? I have a kit with the sw900 lcd screen which allows you to change from 5 different power outputs and also configure other options
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Since this kit did not include a display or instructions on how to adjust the power in the controller, I believe it is set to full power. The twist throttle allows control of that power
@verofpv6152 Жыл бұрын
@@ColinLeung yeah i have a kit with lcd controller and i find putting it in 3rd gear/spead makes the batery last alote longer
@lazybbones Жыл бұрын
Well, now that I've had the chance to ride my ebike conversion, I will say I've had a blast on it, and have gone several places in town. I've only had one major recurring problem, that is not the result of any problem with the product at all, but rather due to the fact that the bike itself was not made to have this conversion done to it. I did have to jury-rig the throttle onto the handlebar, and the PAS will not work on this bike at all, which in and of itself is not so much of a problem. But the "throat" of the forks, where the wheel's axle fits, is not very deep, and the axle of the hub motor will sometimes twist itself out of the forks, no matter how hard I tighten the nuts; The motor itself has that much torque. I am struggling to figure out how to solve that one. But up until now, I have had an absolute blast on this thing. If you're thinking about doing this, I'd say go ahead and give it a shot.
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience. The hub twisting out of the forks sounds a bit dangerous... Ride safely!
@Ghost-vb4xm Жыл бұрын
What about a torque arm kit?
@Digbick328 Ай бұрын
Could i use a 40v 6 ah battery for this build? Or would it damage the hardware.
@ColinLeung Ай бұрын
I read that you can use a lower voltage battery than the motor voltage, but it won't operate at the full potential. It's safer to use an equal or lower voltage battery compared to motor.
@lazybbones Жыл бұрын
Had to send the wheel/motor back. Not only did it not work, but there was no connection on the controller for the pedal sensor. So I sent it back, and asked them to send me another one. This new one will only go 6 mph. Should a 48 v 1000 watt motor only go 6 mph? Or should I send this one back also?
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
No, it should go the rated speed of 20 to 28+ mph. Did you try different wire combinations at the motor? Sometimes the green, blue and yellow wires are mixed up.
@pedieasuncion6875 Жыл бұрын
Bro I have a bafang motor , I connected all the wires and the motor runs but the wheel doesn’t spin I’m confused can you help me at this point?
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Hello Pedie, I just responded to your other message. You can respond there.
@stevelouie5928 9 ай бұрын
Do you recommend just using these kits to make basically an electric motorcycle? Just hook up the throttle and don't use the pas system. Seems like it would simplify installation.
@ColinLeung 9 ай бұрын
It's personal preference. I like having the option to pedal with assist to make it feel like I'm working out. It also extends the battery range instead of just using throttle.
@tenncutt Жыл бұрын
Is having power at the front wheel as opposed to mid or rear, bad? It seems like it might possibly be a little dangerous in a turn maybe, especially a slippery one
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
I personally prefer rear or mid drives. The concern with front hub wheels is that it can bend the front fork if there is a lot of power. They created added stiffeners for that very purpose. Lower torque front motors should be safe, and an adequate fork should be safe. I'm not sure if it's more or less dangerous on a turn.
@anythingrc4715 Жыл бұрын
A mid drive is still rear wheel drive just the weight difference I think I personally like front wheel drive because when you pedal it’s constant 2wd which helps off-road traction and acceleration Also with mid or rear drives you only have rear wheel drive whether you’re pedaling or only on motor power Weight distribution is important and front wheel drives will slip and need a torque arm under extreme acceleration You may chew tyres faster with a front wheel drive if you lose traction on pavement a lot
@marthamryglod291 Жыл бұрын
Inflation is crazy. Prices have doubled!
@tome4285 Жыл бұрын
13.5%
@richarddrew662 10 ай бұрын
Was thinking about doing this on my fat tire bike but my forks are aluminium any tips?
@ColinLeung 10 ай бұрын
You may be able to add fork stiffeners for added safety. Another solution is to put a mid drive, or rear hub motor.
@celestiacastlephotography 10 ай бұрын
Dual steel Torque Arms failed and I was hospitalized. I had chopper steel forks front. When I was at a speed of 34mph the torque arms I had bent and the forks bent. I had PAS MAX which when kicks in... kicks in at full throttle every time so at a high speed of 34MPH the front wheel becoming the lightest had no weight to help counter the torque of the motor. If i had the same motor on the rear, the weight of my body on the dropout and the axle would be enough to keep the motor from breaking free. I had a front hub 1000w hub with 48v battery 800watt BLDC BTW Never had problems with rear hub motors. Front wheel could be a problem If your dropout and torque arms fail. Mine were all steel and torqued on with threadlock. Still failed. front hubs are cheaper but are not worth your safety.
@ColinLeung 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience, and I'm sorry to hear that you were hospitalized. I hope you were able to recover well
@megapet777 Жыл бұрын
Do you know if there is some super cheap ebike kit for 29" tire size? Also how hard would it be install only the hub motor on the original wheel? Because buying the hub motor would be cheaper than buying it with the new wheel.
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
I found a few on Amazon in the $288+ range. amzn.to/3R9cfbC amzn.to/3QOyV13 It would not be too difficult if you have experience spoking wheels. Search spoking wheel tutorial. You'd need to buy shorter spokes though since the hub would be larger, and make sure the hub opening numbers matches your current rim.
@megapet777 Жыл бұрын
@@ColinLeung Oh I see. Well that kit seems good actually, thx. Probably will keep my bike original for a while but at some point would definitely be nice to turn it electric.
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
@@megapet777 Sounds good!
@lazybbones Жыл бұрын
@@ColinLeung The first one of these comes from China and you may have to wait almost two months to get it. The second one has 29" in their title, but the only size they actually have available on the website is 26".
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
@@lazybbones I'd suggest searching "29" front hub conversion" on Amazon for the latest listings. There may be more available.
@turbopopz2795 Жыл бұрын
I got mine hub motor for front wheel it was a 1500w hub motor but i was riding my bike and front drop outs just snapped out of my bike while riding idk why? I think so probably too much of torque even thou i added torque arms as well. Im scared now
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Wow. That sounds scary. 1500W is a lot of power. Did you have a solid steel fork, or shocks with the torque arm?
@turbopopz2795 Жыл бұрын
@@ColinLeung its a shocks and I added torque arms
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
@@turbopopz2795 I see. Did it fail where the the metal rods go into the plastic lower parts?
@gaborbotschner6285 Жыл бұрын
Hi Colin! I recently bought a wheel of this type, I did everything as you did. But the wheel turns in the opposite direction. What do you suggest I do with it? Thx G.
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Hello Gabor, the easiest thing would be flipping the wheel around assuming the tire rotation direction is correct, or you may have to flip the tire too. Otherwise you can switch the wires around, but it will involve trial and error because there are 3 wires. Sometimes they miscolor them.
@pulkit458 Жыл бұрын
Out of the three motor wires, just interchange any two wires' connections. It'll change the direction of the rotation.
@josephfigueroa1551 9 ай бұрын
Colin Leung is there a 29 er version kit
@ColinLeung 9 ай бұрын
Here's an example of a 29" electric front hub. I'm sure there's others if you search google. amzn.to/47SsMtx
@NormanWray-hi8cu Ай бұрын
Hello dear sir that's ok to so far and can a 14.8 voltage smart battery work with my baizifu conversion kit ?understand 😊
@ColinLeung Ай бұрын
Do you know what voltage the motor is? Typically you can use anything rated the same or less voltage, but it won't be as powerful.
@NormanWray-hi8cu Ай бұрын
@@ColinLeung hello sir I don't know because the moto don't labels its clear can.
@moorgoon Жыл бұрын
Was your issue with the controller getting hot anything to do with the bigger battery? Listening to those brakes I might go for the brake option as well. I’m thinking to install this on the front wheel of a tandem bike we have.
@moorgoon Жыл бұрын
I think the kit I’m looking at comes with a 1.75 wide tire - can you put a 1.90 tire (presently on my bicycle) on this wheel?
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
I suspect the first controller was defective because the replacement did not have an issue overheating.
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
@@moorgoon If the rim size is the same for both tires then the 1.9 should work.
@moorgoon Жыл бұрын
@@ColinLeung thanks - I’ll check it out
@tsmi5807 3 ай бұрын
How come U did the front wheel with the power instead of the rear wheel.
@ColinLeung 3 ай бұрын
This specific company gave the front hub to me in exchange for a review. I recently performed a rear hub install on my own bike, and intend to post the DIY video within a week. Thanks!
@convictions831 Жыл бұрын
Did get battery with it
@lazybbones Жыл бұрын
I should also mention, that is with the bike upside down; in other words, no load on the bike.
@lazybbones Жыл бұрын
You demonstrated mounting the battery, but you didn't talk about putting the screws on the frame of the bike. Any hints on that part?
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Are you referring to the battery mount? I'd suggest placing the battery mount holes over the bottle screws without tightening the screws, and seeing if the battery can slide within the limitations of the frame. I think I had to place my battery mount upside down on the lower diagonal frame bar to fit.
@lazybbones Жыл бұрын
@@ColinLeung I get it now. Mine is an old single speed; no bottle screws. I'll hàve to put in my own screws.
@sidoniasknight 8 ай бұрын
At 28:22 what was that for that you pluged in.
@ColinLeung 8 ай бұрын
I think it was the pedal assist plug. The layout can be seen here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nt2TfM2InKqWYoE.htmlsi=rr8k5I2jwJj58O4H&t=470
@speculate6719 Жыл бұрын
Do you have to soter
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Yes and no. You don't have to solder if you can figure out how to connect the battery to the controller with bolts/nuts. I'd suggest soldering the plug to the wires though for a more secure connection.
@OliverWoodphotography Жыл бұрын
The battery and motor phase wires on these ebike kits always look too thin to me? Those wires need to be able to conduct at least 20Amps but they only look good for 10A max?
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Good observation. I thought some of the wires looked thin, but didn't check what amperage they were rated.
@dubmob151 Жыл бұрын
there's no hard and fast cutoff for wire gauge vs current capacity, it just ends up how much losses you're willing to tolerate, assuming it's not so undersized it starts to overheat. thicker is better but with cost and weight being the trade-off.
@marthamryglod291 Жыл бұрын
I have 14g powering 500 and they're fine. Higher voltage can pass the same wattage at lower amperage so I like to run 60-72v to avoid the need for large bulky wires
@ricardo19851 Жыл бұрын
Amazon link is all sold out anyway to get new links ?
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Hello, which link are you referring to? The hub kit is still in stock when I check this link amzn.to/3oGjL1o
@lewchaney2138 Жыл бұрын
Are you now able to run this 48V Hub motor using your 52V battery with a full charge?
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Hello, I ended up selling the bike. I didn't test the ebike with a fully charged battery, but at the time of the recording the battery was measuring 56-58V.
@paytongaming7752 2 жыл бұрын
Question bro I am 16 with no license or anything being that I have a job I need a ride I was settling on a motor bike but then found out about building my own e bike I need a ride to work it’s about 10 miles away I just want to know if I’m able to ride it there and just park it in the back will the battery last that long? And will it last me a year or two ? I love the video and how you explained it definitely gained a sub
@ColinLeung 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Payton, the battery should not drain it's not in use, and you can always turn off the battery or even remove it if you're concerned of a parasitic draw. The range is dependent on the battery capacity. A larger and more expensive battery should have a longer range. It would be nice if you could charge it at work too. The battery life is dependent on many factors including usage, charging and storage. Sources say you can expect it to be charged 500x or 4-5 years before degrading. I hope this helps!
@paytongaming7752 2 жыл бұрын
@@ColinLeung is there a certain mileage in the battery?
@ColinLeung 2 жыл бұрын
@@paytongaming7752 I think it's more dependent on the number of charges/discharges than the mileage.
@paytongaming7752 Жыл бұрын
@@ColinLeung it’s been a month since I commented I didn’t have any part for the e bike but now I got it all together just waiting for the battery your video helped a lot
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
@@paytongaming7752 Thanks for the update! You're almost there
@cryptokids3760 9 ай бұрын
I found a kit for $250 on Amazon. Says 1200w and I will hook up my 52v 30ah battery to it and let you know how she works. The motor is a Pexmor
@ColinLeung 9 ай бұрын
Sounds good. Let me know how it goes. Ride safe!
@ronalddage2002 9 ай бұрын
Im building a 2 wheel drive with a 500w front 3000w rear dual battery dual throttle dual controller
@ColinLeung 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like a fun ride. Let me know how it goes!
@johneastridge2786 Жыл бұрын
*nice*
@mattwilliams6330 Жыл бұрын
Mine runs really good 👍 it sets on a Beach cruiser huffy from wally world 😊 it's been chopped into a bobber w saddle bags
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thanks for sharing!
@jeffreyanderson539 Жыл бұрын
Can you get this kit for a 29 inch Bike
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Hello Jeffrey, I did not see this kit for a 29" bike and this one wouldn't fit due to brake pad positioning. They do sell 29" kits on Amazon if you're interested amzn.to/3Td3IWx
@yothiccpapigerardo3981 Жыл бұрын
Is the pedal assist system necessary to install? or can i run my kit without it and still be fine?
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
You can run it without pedal assist. The twist throttle will still work, but there will not be any electrical assist if you pedal.
@yothiccpapigerardo3981 Жыл бұрын
@@ColinLeung replying to comments after 4 months of posting this. ur a legend man frfr
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
@@yothiccpapigerardo3981 Lol. I get notifications on youtube of new comments, so it's easier to track, and try to address them immediately every few days.
@yothiccpapigerardo3981 Жыл бұрын
@@ColinLeung sorry but i had one more question. what is the range of the bike with the battery you have there?
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
@@yothiccpapigerardo3981 The battery was rated for a max of 60-70 miles.
@davidjulseth8667 Жыл бұрын
the bike is not only to fast for that parking lot, it's wayyyy to fast for those brakes, your brave...lol
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
haha. Thanks
@pedieasuncion6875 Жыл бұрын
I just connected the green wires on the box to eachother n tried turning it on n the wheel spins forward huh but won’t turn on it just nudges forward briefly what’s the issue here , mind u I have a bafang motor n it’s all plugged in n together but the throttle jus spins the motor but the wheel won’t spin I’m lost
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
I would double check all of the connections. Try unplugging them, and plugging in the battery, controller, battery, display if you have one and throttle. You can leave the brake switch, pedal assist and lights off for now just to make sure it's all working. Ensure the right connections are made because I recall there were several green, orange and yellow plugs, and it would be easy to mix them up. I'd also contact bafang support if you can't figure it out since they may be able to provide help or replacement parts if something is defective.
@pedieasuncion6875 Жыл бұрын
Brotherty tank u so much I was actually tooken back on the problem solver what had to be done was to program the wheel forward n bam it work I love it
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
@@pedieasuncion6875 That's great. I'm glad you got the issue resolved.
@speculate6719 Жыл бұрын
This is the best video for e bikes!
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@nickolcher1394 Жыл бұрын
Does it come with its own battery
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
This kit does not. The $250+ is only for the kit without the battery or bike.
@On_the_Ron 10 ай бұрын
i bought the same kit and kinda weird that the controller said its rated for 13 amps and 48 volts... so 13amps x 48 volt = 624 watts dont really know whats going on but for the price of 200$ cant really complains about it. looking for a 30amps controller to fix the motor rn
@ColinLeung 10 ай бұрын
Oh nice. What happened to the controller in the kit? Or are you looking to upgrade the controller?
@On_the_Ron 10 ай бұрын
@@ColinLeung so voltage x amps = watts and the controller come with it can only deliver up to 624 watts to the motor, looking for a controller that can deliver more amps to the motor also I bought the other version of the kit which you don’t have to use that yellow box to connect the motor or worry about the hall sensors if you know what I mean
@ColinLeung 10 ай бұрын
@@On_the_Ron Got it. Thanks for the clarification!
@radi8752 Жыл бұрын
Without battery included ?
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Correct. It's just the price of the kit without the bike or battery.
@rosscorindia9527 Жыл бұрын
What do you do if your bike has hydraulic brakes?
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
You may be able to disassemble the brake sensors in the kit, and try fitting them to yours, or leaving the sensors off. The motor won't shut off when you brake, but everything else should work.
@marthamryglod291 Жыл бұрын
You can order brake sensors that stick on your existing brakes. Just let the seller know that you want that.
@E-BikingAdventures Жыл бұрын
Be thankful. This guys bike is a disaster waiting to happen.
@lazybbones Жыл бұрын
Is it true that people's forks are actually breaking by using these front hub motors?
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Many people have had broken forks due to excessive torque from the front wheel. Fork stiffeners help, but someone here commented that theirs failed.
@lazybbones Жыл бұрын
@@ColinLeung Might it be most of the time because of jumping on it too hard at start off? This is making the rear motor make a little more sense. But my bike is a single speed. All of the rear motors come with the sprocket stack for a multi-speed. Do they make one for a single speed?
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
@@lazybbones I'd assume people are taking off too quickly, which causes the fork to bend. I haven't really looked into single speed rear hubs, but I'm sure they're available if you search google. The VanPowers City Vanture that I have is a single speed rear hub, but that has a belt instead of a chain.
@lazybbones Жыл бұрын
@@ColinLeung Thanks for all your helpful replies. Still thinking about which way I want to go.
@mikehall9 Жыл бұрын
I heard the carnal singing outside
@markmcelheney7513 11 ай бұрын
You Really Need Disc Brakes On That Thing.
@ColinLeung 11 ай бұрын
Disc brakes would be helpful, but the front electric hub did not have the a slot to attach a disc.
@andytang462 Жыл бұрын
Instead of soldering the battery wires, could you have just used a converter?
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Yes, or some kind of wire crimp. Soldering is always best in my opinion though.
@andytang462 Жыл бұрын
@@ColinLeung really appreciate the reply! thank you
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
@@andytang462 No problem
@djrichylaurence8991 7 ай бұрын
You don't need the brake levers or pedal assist btw.
@ColinLeung 7 ай бұрын
Yes they are optional. The brake levers should increase the brake pad life because the lever shuts off the motor when braking, and some like the option of using the pedal for assist for increased battery life.
@davidroberts6594 Ай бұрын
The motor kits are cheap, the biggest expense is a decent battery, which is double the cost of the motor kits.
@ColinLeung Ай бұрын
Agreed
@leonardwardjr800 Жыл бұрын
Well this conversion kit work on a trike?
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
It should if the wheel fits, and you have space to put a controller and battery
@roddyandbella Жыл бұрын
I have an old Schwinn Meridian trike and it has a 1500w motor and is wonderful to ride. Can’t get the pedal assist to work though…can’t get sensor close enough. It’s a Voilamart kit.
@roddyandbella Жыл бұрын
Also…is that your phone showing the speed? How are you doing that?
@nobarhambarsomyan7013 Жыл бұрын
اين قفيص الذي يمسك ماطور والماشة على يسار واليمين 1و2 بدون ماسك وقفيص سوف ينكسر ماشة الامامية وتقع على الارض هذا خطر عليك لان ماطور يسير 55كم سرعة
@CinematicM0vies 5 ай бұрын
I built a 500w 48v ebike and it tops out at 29 miles without pedal. I weigh about 190lbs
@ColinLeung 5 ай бұрын
Great. Thanks for sharing!
@CinematicM0vies 5 ай бұрын
do you think it is possible to connect a 750w controller to a 500w hub motor?@@ColinLeung
@ColinLeung 5 ай бұрын
@@CinematicM0viesI read that it's possible, but you'd want to lower the amps on the controller to prevent burning out the motor.
@CinematicM0vies 5 ай бұрын
@@ColinLeung AWESOME!!! THANK YOU FOR REPLYING!
@ColinLeung 5 ай бұрын
@@CinematicM0vies You're welcome. No problem
@lufknuht5960 24 күн бұрын
Less than 750 Watts for legal
@detacheddad3396 Жыл бұрын
Your not gonna get a hub motor and battery for under $500. However bikes are cheap if not free. You can build 2-3 bikes for the price of a manufactured ebike. They do almost 30 mph and are reliable. I’ve built two so far. I like having something different plus mine are kinda stealthy unlike the bulky obvious ebikes I see.
@ColinLeung Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@bindingcurve Жыл бұрын
Ride one up core 5 is $1200. You going to build one for $600?
@detacheddad3396 Жыл бұрын
@@bindingcurve $700 with 52v 20ah battery. You can get bad ass bikes for next to nothing at garage sales. The hub motor and battery/usb port that straps in-between from Amazon.
@bindingcurve Жыл бұрын
@@detacheddad3396 something tells me those kits are what are burning down homes
@detacheddad3396 Жыл бұрын
@@bindingcurve Well it would just be my garage
@diegudr 10 күн бұрын
Definitely a $500 bike. The $250 one will not work without a battery. But the jokes on me cause I watched the video. You also needed the bike. So I guess this should be called the DIY CHEAP $250 1/3 bike.
@NormanWray-hi8cu Ай бұрын
Can you shipping me a pair off ends like that,thank Norman Wray
@ColinLeung Ай бұрын
Sorry, I don't have any extra. You can try ordering them through Amazon, or ebay. amzn.to/3JPHUwZ
@grumpy039 10 ай бұрын
Compressed air will make removing the hand grips easy
@ColinLeung 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@rrich52806 8 ай бұрын
250 does not include the battery...which exceeds the price of the hub motor.
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