I think all drummers appreciate how you line the camera changes of the drill up with the song haha

You should make a drum set out of china cymbals.

TURN A BASS DRUM INTO A SNARE!!

Holy China, you've been down too long in the midnight sea!

When drilling cymbals.. you should collect the dust or the drill cuttings or whatever . haha .. then make your own cymbal ..

I've owned many china cymbals in my time (I currently use 4 of them on my setup) and I found that my Sabian AA 17" Holy China is the best I've ever used. It seems that adding the holes quickens the decay and adds a touch more trash. That's what I noticed between the before and after footage other than the simple pitch difference. Awesome video!

Interesting drill melody

drill holes in the bell of a crash

Hahaha at 1:50 is that intentional how the drill matches the beat?

the mad scientist of percussion instruments.... cool video man

I liked the mod, made it sound better

That was clever what you did with the sound of the drill to the rhythm of the song in the background and I think definitely sounds better with the holes given for what sound one would want to use it for

Really liked the background music in this one. Thought the cymbal sounded better with the holes

Love the drill bit/ music match up part, that's pretty neat.

Higher pitch, slightly more splashy with the holes. I like people playing buckets and pans so really, for me, it's about style and end result. Das good!

I don't particularly like the sound either before or after.

You continue to make interesting, innovative and informative videos. Thank you for all the effort and professionalism that you put into them. The drilled cymbal definitely is a little trashier and more complex and is my favorite. Well worth the effort IMO.

Drill almost sounds like part of the song

definitely prefer the drilled one :D

Definitely has a darker sound. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and showing the drum community this experiment.

I'd love to see this experiment with crash, ride and high hats too. Really love watching all your cymbal work and would love more. That said, almost all of your videos are great.

The holes definitely improve the attack and bite, absolutely love the Holy China sound, especially in the new mini versions. HOWEVER, Sabian gets broken returns like crazy... I think because of the configuration. So if you make one of these on your own, just do one or two rows of holes depending on the cymbal's size, and stay away from the edge of the cymbal where it turns back down.

Question: regular pattern of holes might favor certain frequencies. Wouldnt a random pattern create more different frequencies therefor changing the sound more dramatically?

Congrats. You managed to make a Classics china sound playable. Horrid series of cymbals.

I’ll get mi drill! Nice enhancement for a budget cymbal. Been thinking this for quite a long time and now I’m done thinking. Thanks to you!

Interesting. The drilled and un-drilled both have their own personalities, so it becomes a matter of choice. I liked the "drilled" a bit better myself. I really enjoy your vids. Keep them coming.

Nice video. Just found your channel recently and like your work (both youtube vids and soundcloud). Has me looking at my spare parts and found objects in a totally new way. thanks. I like the brightness of the china with holes.

Best channel on KZfaq. Love your work man.

Awesome sound in my opinion, keep up the good work homie , much respect 🙌 love this channel

I really enjoyed this video I use the 17in Sabian holy China (love it) and I've always wondered what the difference would be without the holes versus with the holes at I really like the sound that you got when you put the holes in it felt like it was more about trash cany sound And I really like that about it thanks for the video I wonder what would happen if you did that with a crash

Hell yeah, another vid from Dave, love ya work mate!

Cool Video! Thanks for all the work and effort you put into them.

I think it would sound good if you had one of each It sounded really good with the back and forth of the two cymbals Thanks I love your videos

Your channel is fascinating! I don't even own a drum set (although I practise in band rehearsal when my drummer isn't playing) even less DIY tools, but it's just so relaxing to watch your projects and learn a few stuff!

Always a pleasure to watch your videos Dave. Have you ever produced for any local rappers or anything? You have a ton of talent.

Cuts right through the rest of the drums and makes a strong, sharp sound that's perfect for that shrill rock sound

thought the cymbal sounded better with the holes in it. Cool idea, keep up the cool videos!

Very nice. Getting lots of cool ideas. I would like to see some picks made from damaged cymbals

Really interesting video thanks for making this! I was surprised that the difference was so small and that it actually sounded better afterwards. I have that cymbal in 18 inch version and don't like it at all. Maybe I should do the same thing with it!

The drilled one def sound "trashier", has a lower tone and shorter sustain. Love it!

first time when i like your cymbal tuning!

I was precisely decided to try to drill holes in a cheap china I don't like. gotta try!.. got the same problem with a Paiste Pst 18, and darkening it a little bit will be great! thank you and keep it up!

Nice. It sounds good with the holes. You've got me thinking about drilling out my xs20 china. I don't know if I can bring myself to take a drill to my cymbals, though. lol.

Great demonstration, love your videos

Glad to see someone else who still uses Logic Pro lol... awesome vid as usual man

I just bought a 17" holy china and I'm so exited for it to come

thanks dude I wanted this video since your last one

It sounds tons better. Nice work.

now it now it sounds like a China

I did the same thing with a zildjian crash I did the first three holes with a drill, I gave up shortly after and use a 55 ton ironworker punch machine. it took me the same amount of time to drill three holes is it took to punch the other 20 some odd holes.

I love it I think it would make a great stacking cymbal

That drill sounded killer with the beat!

The holy china is the best sounding china cymbal ever. Props to chad smith of the rhcp and sabian for creating this awesome cymbal

You're giving me some crazy ideas, thanks man!

I LIKE that sound... it's not as long and dark as a "china" cymbal... it's "bright" and short.

THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!!! I have a Sabian b8 China and I hate the way it sounds. I've been wanting to drill it but wasn't sure of it. I thought about rivets after your last video, might do a mix of both now!

love the music in all your videos

Holy China, Batman! You answered my question before you knew I asked it! Thanks!

As always, AWESOME!

I thought he was gunna make a religious Chinese person

As allways, great video !

Awesome as always

you should try making a low volume cymbal just like zildjian's L80 series, it would be fun to watch! love your vids man

i did this with a pair of Meinl hats- just 4 holes in a diamond pattern on the bottom cymbal. they already sounded decent, but after they were way better. faster, tighter and crispier, and zero airlock

How is it that i cant seem to stop watching your videos? 😱

I appreciate your inventiveness. You are going to stumble into a killer idea if not several. I own a Whu China cymbal which sounds really great, unfortunately it's mounting hole is oversized and not centered. Any suggestions as to how I could rectify this problem? I don't want to key hole this excallent cymbal. I have thought about cutting two washers out of other cymbals. Drilling a centered larger hole in the Whu that removes all of the off centered hole. Then ( applying ) the made up washers. But how? The inner one would be impossible to brsze in place because of the dome, ( it's not a bell ). And I think that brazing would stiffen up the cymbal and ruin its sound. And suggestions would be appreached. Thank You, Tom.

i like how it sounds with the holes more. sounded like its was just the tiniest bit brighter, which is my preference anyways. also like that you use the same DAW as me.

I like the sound of it with the holes without the rivets

I actually did the same thing to a 16 inch Paiste 2002 China. It sounds amazing for the stuff I play.

Would've been interesting to keep about 1/4 of the rivets in and then make the rest of the holes the larger radius, but I think the end result worked out pretty cool.

Nice stave shell in the background The China definitely sounds better with holes. Darker and trashier

Honestly surprised the pitch dropped. I wish i can do the things you do looks like alot of fun

Nice dude! Love your video's!

the drilled one is i would prefer. It looked cooler and sounded cooler. Keep up the great work man. ☺!

My favorite video of yours because china's to me are unique you can defintely modify them. I'm gonna get a kinda cheaper china and drill holes then make a stack.

I like it with holes drilled!

did it myself on a Sabian paragon china 19, used the 12 inch Classic custom trash splash to do the same pstern as the Meinl equilibrium china, but did smaller holes, its killer now

If you take a cheap set of hi hats like meinl hcs or mcs in 14 inch , would you get a better sound out of them by drilling one to two extra holes in the bottom hats bell?

Dope shirt brother!!! Long live the MPC!!!!!!!

The synced drill sounds.. nice.

I need to do this my Paiste 18 inch china, the china has a darker tone with the holes...I like it.

Great video and channel! Love all the content. This video would have been perfect if the same camera angle and position were used when comparing the before and after

another fire beat

the drill sounds make the beats so much better mannn

I have a sabian b8 18" crash/ride, do you think drilling some holes will improve the sound of it?

I know you've already done videos on turning a tom into a snare and I'm thinking of making a couple of snares out of some toms from my old drum kit... but I'm looking for cool and unusual snares and I want to leave them uncut. They are 12" and 13" rack toms from an old Pearl Export. Could you maybe do a video on how the snares would sound if you left the toms their original size? Thanks!!

I find it kinda cool how the one with holes has lower pitch, but a higher sounding decay

@rdavidr Looking to modify a horribly thick 20" Zildjian ride from the 60s. Do you recommend lots of small holes or several big (o-zone) holes?? Thanks!

I like the mode, made it sound more like a china instead of a really low crash.

Noticable difference. A better sound after drilling but I wonder how it effects the structural stability. Will it soon crack between holes.

It sounded like there was definitely more decay in the drilled out version. Make another, "Oh shit, I'm at the gig and I forgot ____ " video. I loved that last one.

Hey Dave! What do think about scarfs as a snare or tom muffle?

hey rdavidr, love your videos. I was wondering, what's your thought on buddy rich and Big Band?

Loving your MPC shirt

Hands down you made it MUCH betta

Great video!

Almost looks like a factory job well done

Stave snare shell in the background, will it be in a future video?

Lol That drill is on beat son!

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