yea man, McGill is the back goat

Glad we could help man 🙏🏼

Dude, good on you for listening to them. I wish I had this talk before I destroyed my back from Jefferson curls. Over a year rehab man. Learn the easy way, not the hard way lol

@@shakenbacon-vm4eu I’m a NBL1 athlete in Australia and I’ve been imitating Isaiah’s training for a couple years now and have seen crazy results. But these tip videos are always some of their best content 💯

Thank you!

I disagree, that has helped some athletes but the method described in the video has been wayyyy more effective in me and the athletes I’ve trained

I tried that method and doing the method described in the video was much more effective, and I’ve seen the same results with a ton of athletes I’ve coached

I disagree

I’ve benefitted a lot of yoga but loaded back training is what got be all my problems from a disc. Then I was terrified of any back flexion and went into constant hyperextension which put constant load and pain on my facets. Once my disc healed, I got into yoga and gentle back flexion, really helped to break up all the adhesed fascia and tight ass muscles, opened up my athleticism again. But I disagree, loaded back training is a recipe for disaster. I like kneesovertoes guy but he should stick to knees. His Jefferson curl added decades to my body.

My experience. Got a disc herniation from Jefferson curls and my legs instantly gave out. Terrifying. Took months to recover, rehab, no surgery. However, I was terrified of any spine flexion for like 15 months. It was probably good to avoid spine flexion for a few weeks/months to heal, but my body became so afraid of any flexion that I actually hyperextended and held that 24/7 for months. And hyperextension puts an incredible load on your facets. Actually got a terrible injury , couldn’t walk on a simple lay up during pickup cuz I hyperextended my back way too much, weak ass core. Plus, since I kept my back incredibly stiff and not moving, the back muscles and fascia tightened up so much that my mobility went away and it actually hurt to slightly round or even straighten my back. So once I felt my sciatica to be gone, and I start to go into lumbar flexion and engaging the core, eliminating my anterior pelvic tilt, I felt so much better. Like Isaiah said, Jefferson curls are kinda dangerous and that’s also how I fucked myself up. But things like hollow body ab holds, stretching, yoga, toe touches, and unloaded slow back flexion have incredibly helped me. Really helped me get back to pre injury athleticism. Avoid loaded back flexion or loaded back extension at all costs. Stretching as long as it doesn’t reproduce sciatica? That’s probably gonna bring you back to pre pain levels. For me also, back squats and deadlifts were aggravating me, so I stopped and focused on plyos, flexibility, weight control. Even though THP stresses heavy lifts, as John said if the heavy lifts are hurting you, you gotta take them out and do something out. Getting your spine mobility back is super important too. Just don’t load it. Don’t do explosive under both dunks in practice. Look at Kadur Ziani, he’s all about body weight strength and extreme mobility, no weights. Also look at ballet dancers, insane verts and even more insane mobility, no heavy lifts at all.

@@shakenbacon-vm4eu love your insight here! Thanks

if there sore focus on recovery

@@oscarrr4254 yeah it’s not even soar it’s like straight up pain. Gotta sit out for a while 😭

@@davidcamickofficial still recovery

Do you even pay attention to any of THP's content? They provide so much information on tendons and knees specifically that I can only assume this is your first video you've ever watched by Isaiah or John.

@@philipvana1044 actually I’m in contact with THP and am considering joining, so yeah I’ve seen thier content my guy

Gotchu!

Thank you!!

It can*, but it can also just make things worse. Playing with fire

That can be veryyyy contra indicative depending on the injury

Because we’ve seen it destroy so many backs. You tend to see the success stories with it, what you don’t see is the hundreds of athletes that have come to us damaged from those training methods(you know who I’m talking about) and we have to go in and fix them :/

I don’t consider loaded flexion as basic movement. I trained using loaded flexion for quite a long time and the McGill method by far helped me way more, and allowed me to do dunks that require a bunch of flexion like under both. Having said that there’s multiple ways to skin the cat(pun intended lol), I would just rather not play with fire.