Why all the barbs at Matt for spending money on shafts that may improve his game. He plays golf all year round, competes in tournaments and makes his living from a golf KZfaq channel. He's not an overweight, beer swilling, hack who plays golf once a year and thinks he's dishing out original pickup lines to a cart girls who's heard the same thing 300 times that day like most of you throwing the barbs. Of course you wouldn't pay that much since your life's dream in golf is to remain a hack. But no reason to begrudge others who may be searching for something that actually helps them get better and improve their game.

The only thing I am getting custom fitted for is a ball retriever.

Wow a full Bag fitting in one day, I'm impressed!👍 I usually split my fittings over several weeks, to make sure that my fatigue isn't a factor. I would appreciate your feedback on the LA Shafts performance.

hope to see an update on what its done to your scores if anything! hope you enjoy them!

Went to CC yesterday and got fitted. Ended up getting LA Golf AXS Blue across the board except for 3 wood where I went red. Picked up 20 yards with my irons and eliminated my hook miss left. I actually lost a couple of yards with the driver BUT ended up hitting a very consistent push draw to the right and I'll definitely give up 2 or 3 yards of carry to consistently hit the fairway. The difference was swing weight. My old driver setup was C9. The new setup is D6. Going with the new shaft increased the swing weight making it more difficult for me to deliver the face closed at impact. Equipment matters.

Thanks Matt for being the guinea pig here. Shot dispersions don't lie. You practice and play enough that fitted shafts will make a difference. The average weekend player would benefit the most from a driver fitting. Both head and shaft. For the pros, just hitting one more fairway and one more putt per round means millions. For us amateurs, we enjoy the game more. Thanks again for great content. We love you.

Look forward to seeing the results--before and after. Me, I just beat the ball around the course and hope for a few good shots to tell the wife about at dinner.

Old enough and wise enough to know better. I think it is important to have your clubs fitted properly. In which you can and should do if you are an avid golfer or interested in getting better. Saying that I don’t think you need to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars to do so. It is all based off of your swing speed and or tempo. Swing speeds will determine your shaft flex, stiff, x-stiff, regular etc...Mizuno makes a shaft optimizer that takes 5-10 swings and that will get you in the ball park and you can narrow down from there. I.E. dynamic gold, rifle, nippon etc... same for drivers ; 3-wood , hybrids. If you are swinging over 110 mph you are most likely x-stiff, 95-105 stiff, under 95 probably reg but you have to go by feel and the numbers ( meaning spin rate numbers and ball speeds. That all should come with the purchase of a new set of irons or a driver fitting. And if you have the money and want to spend it at a club champion by all means do so but don’t count on it making a drastic change in your scores. At the end of the day it is the Indian not the arrow!

Awesome knowledge. I’ll move on to that once I master set up, balance, tempo, rhythm, grip pressure and the “chip & slide”. Please don’t be offended by my sarcasm. I guess the mystery of golf is part of the appeal of the game. Keep them coming Matt. I am a loyal subscriber.

You must have got a sweet deal to get all your shafts from LA Golf. Way to go to promote LA Golf!

I love your open exposure to your experiences and assistance through the golfing experience. Passing on the knowledge rather than looking down on those of us who are high handicappers. Much appreciated and love the channel.

I did the iron fitting 2 years ago and it make a huge difference in my game. The ball goes where I'm aiming. If you're in the single digit HCP range it's totally worth it.

Thank you for actually including the company info you are talking about. Some other KZfaqr's don't include such good info.

Just for the record shaft and head combinations make a huge difference. When I did my fitting they had me hitting a TM 6 iron just over 190 yards. Crazy! The problem was I couldn't hit it straight. The dispersion was all over the place. I wound up with a set of Callaway MB PW-3 irons. It was just a little more than I could have got them elsewhere. Like Matt, my dispersion was less than half of what my well worn Mizounos were. I didn't do the puring. I went back a year later when my driver face cracked, and that worked out ok. I didn't see the gains with the new driver that I got out of my irons.

I got that same shaft in my Sim Max Hybrid too and it changes my 220 yard game. Got fitted at Agoura Hills as well. But I feel like they are promoting this LA Golf Shaft brand and seems like almost everyone got fitted with this shaft. Good shit!.

Went there to get a putter fitting and the experience was great. Thanks Rob.

As a 10 handicap, I don’t feel like my swing is consistent enough to benefit from this type of fitting. How I’m swinging on fitting day may not be how I’m swinging tomorrow.

I was told by an instructor last year that the only thing that matters is the shaft and grip. All the heads are user friendly..just matters how you like the look of it. He said golf company’s don’t have enough warehouse space to fit each specific person so all the golf clubs across every company are about or around the same as performance.

Love this type of video, I guess I'm a bit of a club geek. I wish the "fitter" had been mic-ed-up to hear his insights. Thanks Matt.

It's funny, every time I see one of your vid's I have a smile at the beginning. Not sure why. Right at the start :) Like oh yeah, this guy. I like him. I think it's just the way you are. Down to earth, sense of humour, say it as it is. I always look forward to what you've got to say cause they're helpful, no crap, not too technical things. Thanks. :)

Love these kinds of videos. I alway knew it wasn't my fault for hitting balls left and right😂

I golf 4 days a week. The past (about) 6 months I have noticed my distance with my irons falling off. I normally play my 7 iron out to about 153 yds. My last fitting (3 years ago) still had me in steel stiff shafts.I went in for new irons and fitting. I liked the feel and look of the Titleist T200’s. They set up a 7 iron with a steel stiff shaft,,, results... just like out on the course I was only getting 125 yds!!! He switched me to a graphite stiff shaft... improved to 135yds with the weight savings of graphite,,, next went to a lighter shaft and picked up another 8 yds,, then switched to a senior flex and picked up another 10 yds and I can now say I am back to the mid 159’s with my 7 iron. It is worth every penny to do it right, and at 70 years old I can’t be happier with my game...

Just been fitted for 1/2 inch shorter 10 grams heavier driver shaft....hit every fairway I used it on,and used off the deck twice....sweet

Thanks

Awesome vid! This sold me on going to get fitted by them. My fitting session is in 4 hours. I am looking forward to dropping strokes!

Would of been nice to see some actual numbers of before and after rather than just dispersion circles.

I got fitted from club champion earlier in the year and it has been an absolute game changer. I will say you have to go in there with an open mind and an open wallet but I highly recommend them

Lol.... had a crazy experience at a club champion. Went for a 5W fitting. The fitted me for a Corba F9 Speedback for $600... I needed a $325 shaft upgrade😂😂😂 In my mind I said “ are you nuts”. went down the rode the next day to a PGA superstore... was fitted for an Callaway epic flash 5W off the rack... nothing fancy. Then went and picked one off eBay used with the same specs. Best club in my bag. I’ve heard many of stories like this with club champion. But go see for yourself.

I would kill to beable to be be able to forget what clubs i got fit im happy gor you man

I've heard mixed things about pureing. that the pureing process wasn't necessary these days. Newer shafts and modern manufacturing especially from top brands have good quality control. But I'd like to see you do a video review of it... Help us clear the air.

Search for "club champion fitting" on google, you will see some people love it, and many people think it is a rip off. Fitting itself is not bad, about $400 for the full bag, but then you have to buy shafts, etc there, which is usually 2X of retail prices. Many people ended up with $4,000 suggestions. If you don't buy shafts, etc, it seems you just wasted $400 fitting fee. The other thing is whether your swing is consistent. For driver, do you always have slice, launch the ball way too high? etc. If you are still shooting everywhere, I don't thin fitting can benefit your much.

2020 was a bad year to get fitted. Waited a month and a half for the appointment and a month and a half to get the clubs.

every golf store i go to gives me different answers on what they do during a fitting, this helps some.

Love this video! Can't say enough about Tim at Club Champion in Agoura Hills! Getting fit was a game changer for my game. I have dropped my handicap 3 strokes since I got my new set in July. Yeah, it's not cheap, but I don't regret it for a second. Money well spent.

Mr.shortgame and rick shields are the best KZfaq golfer guys 😂😂😂

Thanks, finally a proper explanation

Yes, you need a shaft fitting, This changed my game for all time once I got the right shaft in my hands. All my irons(including wedges) are now the same shaft, but my woods are all the same, but different from the irons. And they are ALL graphite.......woooohoooo

I love the sound effects at 11:35 !!

Everyone has made excellent points on this video. First I think there might be some truth to LA Shafts and the performance. If you play at min 60 rounds a year then the $ is just number. Also, your game needs to be close to par ave to pony up that kind of $.

Shaft fittings are imperative. I recently was fit for my PXG irons, putter and vokey wedges. Also, was fit for the SIM Max with the LA Golf shaft and it performed unbelievably stable during the fitting even on misfits. Granted, stock versus high end shafts is based on preference and budget. The LA golf shaft was a few hundred dollars but to me worth the investment come tournament time. All my custom fit work was completed by the team at Club Champion in NY.

Can you tell us why you didn’t like the standard AMT true tempers in the T200s?

One of these days I need to get a fitting. I just tested some shafts at a golf Galaxy and one of the shafts I tried got me 30 yards more of difference and my dispersion got a lot better. I was shocked same driver head but with just a shaft change a totally different result.

@MrShortGame Golf How much did it cost to have your club shafts fitted?

It will be great to view the actual course performance.

Now that I have had lessons and am improving, I can see a full bag fitting in a couple of years once I further improve my swing.

Great video. Damn, now I need to get fitted. I just keep buying random used clubs hoping they're the right fit for me.

I truly hope you got all your shafts SST Pured and went with the Arrcos Grips system. As for the putter, I hope you went with GBT Stability Tour.

Nice set up on those shafts and welcome to the great state of Georgia!!!

Regarding the swingweight thoughts at 5:00 - I don't really think that you should be concerned about too much epoxy increasing SW. You'd need to use some absurd levels of epoxy, or maybe if you're not using epoxy - to add the required weight for it to make an impact. I do believe that different grips can make a difference. Going from standard to midsize will mess with the SW some. Going standard to jumbo will definitely mess with it. I'd also say that shaft weight and length are very impactful variables..

Loved the putter reveal. Good stuff brother.

Shaving Strokes! love it

I want to get fitted but at 72 my swing changes weekly due to physical issues 😕 sore muscles, joint pain etc. so a custom fitting would be wasted, I have Callaway Apex a little longer & lie angle change & just make them work still shoot in the 70's

he had 2pac beat on here!!! That was dope!!!!

The return of Goofball Magillicuddy 😄

I was just up there and got my dad a gift card to get fitted for Christmas. 💯

very nice now get them out on the course! Like that hybrid especially, no 5 wood?

So deserving. I’m so happy for you. What grips and what is your new swing weight, please.

Matt I know shafts and grips can make a big difference in your game but can’t justify the cost. I have a nice set of pxg’s that I’ve been fitted for but after two years of hitting these irons I’m not convinced there the right club for me. Totally makes since if you make your living playing golf. Can’t wait to see how you hit em. Be safe!

I've been subscribed to you for a while! always Appreciate your candor & sense of humor. If you ever have any give aways think of me please. Hit em straight.

Leaving us hanging... I can't wait!

Your better off going to Roger Dunn, they have a 90 day guarantee, every five years I buy a driver from the used bin, play it for a couple rounds, trade it in for another driver, repeat until I find the one I love, have them pop on a fresh grip. You can do the same with a full set of irons. That's a real fitting. No questions asked, great customer service.

The entry fee for the Korn Ferry Qualifier in my town was $3500, so spending $5000 for sticks doesn't sound bad. I'm a 7-hcp so no sticks on the planet would get me to the +5 it would take to play those monsters.

I've seen a great golfer shoot under par with a set of clubs from Walmart.

Just looked at. The cost per shaft and surprise surprise they are quite expensive. Actual cost the res haft all my clubs would exceed the cost of my clubs by 10 fold. Just not worth it unless I was turning “PRO” at age 75 years young. Thanks for the video as it was interesting.

Good stuff...thank you.

Just another question about puring the shafts. These new drivers are adjustable by turning the shaft. Does that defeat the purpose of puring? Think about that🤔

Its funny there is only 2 sides of club fittings - the waste of money and you NEED it and both sides are experts. I went to CC and got 2 fittings - wedges and irons. Wedges costed me 60 bucks to get fitted and the same price they would of if I purchased new off the shelf with a shaft, lofted to my gaps, and lie angle fixed due to a left miss. Went back, and since I was a returning customer waived my iron fitting fee and got mizunos with upgraded shafts fit to me and my misses for (read this carefully) CHEAPER than off the shelf. While yes you can upgrade to some crazy shafts there are shafts that they can get you in to at no upgrade fee. Just depends on the company you decide to go with. Now I get free trackman time, club tweaks, etc etc. All cheaper than if I were to purchase them off the shelf.

How long it took you to just get the fitting to installed?

That's pretty cool

It seems to me that those graphite shafts are so much lighter than what you had (irons) that it will take a long time to adjust to the changes. I just put my set of Ping G10s with the graphite shafts in the bag last week because my back was hurting. I was so inconsistent, I am going back to my Eye 2s with the steel shafts.

Hey, I was wondering if you could do a video of some practice drills on a practice net.

I haven’t seen LA Golf on many golf component sites. Are those a Club Champion house brand?

When does one get fitted? Early on or once they better their game?

Very timely! I'm going for a putter fitting Thursday. Didn't realize the shafts mattered much in that club. Will eventually get the whole bag done for next season.

Cool video. I underwent a full fitting for my Edel Single Length irons, and well, it made a HUGE difference for me. Secondly, I just want to say, thank you for not being British. I have nothing against our cousins across the pond, but it seems like all the golf review/instruction guys are freaking Brits. Keep up the great videos. Love your content. Welcome to the south...don't turn Georgia into California.

Noice. Would be really good to see the experience in more depth. Really gone into the launch and spin numbers and what was not chosen before you made a selection

I'm not a believer up to a certain point. As long as a shaft is not senior or extra stiff, I don't care what brand or model it is. I'm not at a level where I'd notice the difference, or maybe I would but the difference wouldn't bother me. I prefer to focus on grips and the actual club head. Those are the two variables where I'd notice big differences.

How do you know if you need a fitting or a lesson? I think I am in the same boat as a lot of mid HCs in that we think we need to improve our swing before we invest in a full fitting but maybe the fitting is what is needed to improve our swing....Chicken or the egg??

I'm relatively new to golf, so what differences are there between getting them fitting and just choking down on the clubs?

It is amazing how many people who go to Club Champion and need an aftermarket puréd shaft. I guarantee just those shafts and the work cost $2k at CC.

Interesting stuff

This is a real fitting. Went to Moon Golf in Fl and they sold me a new set of Taylormades SIM2 OS. W a s playing the M4s. NO difference. GOT TAKEN 1400 bucks. Took 2 months to come in with wrong grips. They didn't even let me try them out when I picked them up. They Moon Golf claims to be the best not my experience.

Great video..now what was the cost of the fitting ..and the new shafts. .can't imagine a scotty needs a better shaft.!..here a Scott retails for $700. And it needs a better shaft?

Two of my golfing buddies were shafted this year. The are playing so much better. One is a 20+ guy the other a mid teen guy. Both improved and keep telling me to go. Going as soon as my back improves.

Club Champion are pretty scummy from my experience. They do good fitting, however beware of them gouging you on the price of your order. They fit me to a PXG driver with an LA golf shaft, and they were gouging me by $100 each. If you get fit by them I highly recommend buying the stuff yourself.

I say sure why not, my wallet says no

I have just switched to graphite shafts in the irons,waiting for them to be built.What happened to the PTX pro’s?

Just dropped a nice few quid on getting my driver shaft fitted last week, so hoping the answer is yes 😅

What about wedges and other irons,sorta skipped around and how much did it cost

Love you man , great stuff - you're one of the best for golf instruction vids for sure - the early extension vs over the top was a game changer - cheers :)

LOL!! You got scammed just like I did by Club Champion…I went to CC to get a full bag fitting in August 2021 after having my second hip replaced in May 2021…I was fitted for T200s (2021 model) and after going through shafts my “best numbers” were wit the LA Golf Tour AXS Red 85R shafts…They are about a $150 upcharge (per club before tax!!!)…then add another $35 per club to “pure” them (before tax), you’re doubling your price per club (T200 heads are $186 per head). Here’s part 1 of the scam; they charge you $186/club head for the T200s….if you were to buy them from Titleist, or order them on line through TGW, GG, etc, it would be $186, but you’d get a shaft and grip with that price! And if you upgraded to a “higher quality” shaft, you’d pay an upcharge, but not full price since the $186 already figures in the price of a shaft…So, not only are you being upcharged full price for the LA Golf shaft by Club Champion, but you aren’t getting the shaft and grip that came with the club, so you’re paying even more!! Then, add in another $10-$15 per club for a grip…Anyway, played them for 4 months and they were absolutely terrible…dispersion was fine, but I couldn’t feel the club head, had no tempo, etc…couldn’t hit two shots in a row the same…felt like I had just started playing golf again…Thought it was just me because I did have my second hip replacement in May of 2021 (got fitted in August 2021)…But, did some of my own testing at my local Golf Galaxy (no paid fitting; just asked to try a T200 with different shafts). After about 6 visits and trying about 10 different shafts, turns out the best feeling and performing shaft I found was a Project X LZ 6.0 shaft!! IT’S 120g shaft! Not even close to the 85R which is 85 grams! AND, only $45 per shaft…Went back to Club Champion, explained how terrible the shafts I was fitted for feel, and did another fitting…They tried to fit me with Project X IO shafts and charge $100/shaft, plus $35 to pure each…I just laughed, left, and ordered them myself and had Golf Galaxy install them for $15 per club (pull the old head, install the new one and add the grip). Took them to the range a few times already and it’s the first time I actually giggled on the range…I thought I just lost my swing after swinging the LA Golf shafts for the last 4 or 5 months and a few thousand balls…but they were absolutely even better than I expected…the feel, control, tempo, everything was back! I’ve been playing golf for over 40 years and have done a few fittings with local fitters (not big box store fitters) and had great results…I’ve had some other friends and seen others who got fitted at Club Champion all in LA Golf Shafts…seems they have some agreement with them…I’d go find your local fitter before going to Club Champion…big let down and I’ll never go to CC again…hopefully your T200s with the LA Golf shafts work out better for you. Anyone need a set of LA Golf Tour AXS Red 85R shafts let me know! I have 6 iron through GW, professionally pulled! OH! Forgot to mention…the price for a full bag fitting is $300…and none of that goes towards the price of your new clubs if you decide to buy…so there’s that…scam…

I’m a mid to high handicapper. If I get custom fitted today and my game continues to improve, will I need to replace my clubs a few years down the line?

l always shy away from club fitting, because of my small stature @ 5.2", thinking that what fits me would be too short of club set. Is it so?However l play everything standard, but puring by myself. l shoot mid 80s on average. Coach Fisher, what do you think? Should l get fitted in order to shoot lower score?

Can you do an on course result with these fitted clubs?

How long would a custom shaft last? Could the shaft last head changes over the years or is the combo mutually exclusive? For instance I get one of these $400 shafts 😳 for my ping 410. 425 comes out do I just put my custom shaft on new head and I’m good to go?

Tried many different options for each club and LA golf shafts were the winner for each one? Color me very skeptical...

I think we’d all like to know how much 💰😬

You could have improved your Titleists by replacing them with Mizunos.

I’m going to Club Champion next month for an iron fitting, I’m pumped!

great video Matt really like the shaft fitting idea. I still play the Callaway x20's but have picked up club speed so was wondering if it would be a good idea to look into it. great channel 👍🏻