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Doom is basically the Gigachad meme in his debut episode Shows up kidnaps 2 heroes kicks everyone´s ass refuses to elaborate further leaves

Stan lee said it himself. Dr Doom isn’t Evil, he just wants to rule the world. Dr Doom believes the universe needs to change, and more importantly, he believes he’s the only on capable of doing so. Or more accurately, he believes Reed Richards is the only one capable of doing so. He hates and resents Reed, not because he’s smarter then him, but because he’s smarter then him, but refuses to do what needs to be done to better humanity. Thus Doom needs to prove to himself, that he’s better then Reed, so that he can be the one to change the world, since Reed himself won’t do it. Almost every single time doom has won, humanity was better off for it.

This Doom had what… five minutes of screentime across two episodes and he’s somehow a better Doom than three-four live-action films. That’s clearly an achievement.

Fun fact: Dr. Doom once met Stan Lee himself and questioned him why everyone doesn't like Doom

I think perhaps the best "compliment" to Doom's character is one comic (whose name escapes me) where Thanos says words to the effect of "Doom is the one Terran I keep under surveillance"

I love how the only thing EMH needed to change about Doom to make him not hammy like the comics. Was just change him from talking "LIKE THIS!" to Talking "like this."

NGL, I actually think the MCU should just have a physical actor with an imposing frame who never shows their face play doom in person and just have Lex Lang come back to do the lines a la James Earl Jones did for darth vader

Even without his tech and position as a monarch, he'd still have sorcery and his genius mind to hand. That alone is a reason why he's a top dog in all of Marvel.

The problem with adapting Dr. Doom is that outside of his early writing he is not a straightforward villain. Usually the heroes are only as good as their villains, with Doom you come away knowing none of the heroes are as good as Doom. Which is why this adaptation works, the avengers can't hold a candle to him and he doesn't even care.

I think something great about EMH Doom that’s not in any other adaptation I can think of, is that he ACTUALLY HAS AN EASTERN EUROPEAN ACCENT. I don’t really know how accurate it is, but it’s at least something because his heritage is something incredibly important to his character that every adaptation has ignored. I haven’t seen Avengers Assemble so Idk if he has it there or not, but this is just something that I noticed.

Doom is fascinating. He's the epitome of a super villain; rich, powerful, political, brilliant, tactical, tech savvy, magical, honestly the list could go on and on, he really brings everything to the table. There's something admirable about him despite the bad guy status. His work ethic is immeasurable for one, and he genuinely does seem to care about his country and its future. Great video and character analysis, as always!

Doom was actually also hinted at in the Very first episode,, where Tony stop an weapons deal between aim and a mysterious buyer, that we later find out is Doom's representative

Not explicitly mentioned: In Earth's Mightiest Heroes, Doom was never beaten! That wouldn't matter is the adaptation hadn't been so good in general, but being a supervillain that goes undefeated in a superhero show puts him on a truly elite level.

"I was a god, valeria. I found it... Beneath me." Victor Von Doom-

I like how this Victor still falls into Ben's description of him: He is just using the heroes as pawns to do his homework to conquer the world, to make him victorius without sounding "weak" asking for help in front of Reed and the other brainiacs. Is such a Victor move to do. what I really don't know is how the rest of the yost verse feels about the giant purple robocop chasing mutants flying across new york.

The only issue I have with this video is you calling Doom arrogant. As defined by the Oxford dictionary arrogant mean "having or revealing an exaggerated sense of one's own importance or abilities". It's not arrogance; Doom just knows his value.

Doom is pretty much the endgame antagonist (protagonist?) of Marvel , the most dangerous of any antogonist in Marvel. Not because he's the strongest or the most powerful there is , but because how there's no limit in his determination , how much of mastermind he is and how finesse his excecution of his master plan. I think Jonathan Hickman version of Doom is my favorite of all time.

After Thanos, Doctor Doom should be MCU next big threat, with the movies building up a adaptation of Secret Wars.

EMH adapts the character so well considering how much depth as well as complexity is in Doom and being able to get the character right while Doom is limited to only so much screen time that alone deserves praise. Also i’m pretty sure that the third season was supposedly going to adapt the Doomquest arc where iron man and Doom get sent back in time to camelot and chaos ensues which is a favorite comic arc of mine and would have been fantastic to see.

"You are trespassing on Latverian Soil....Leave. Now." Incredible video!! There are too few adaptations of the Greatest Villain of all time, and even fewer that are worth watching. This one is definitely one of the best. All Hail Doom💪🏾💚

this video reminded me how well emh did in adapting his characters. I feel that in one way or another, Avengers earths migthy's heroes is a kind of final love letter to the Marvel era of the 2000s. I feel like the best characteristics of the characters that appear and were adapted in that decade are still there, as with the thing, spiderman, wolverine, nick fury, and obviously Doom. Throughout this time there were films, animated series, animated films, video games and comics, which were representing these characters, sometimes it turned out well, sometimes not, but the series and its team knew Marvel and had experience, and they gave Unforgettable versions of the characters. Narratively, the series is not perfect, but in my opinion, its world is

Doctor doom to me, is what Batman would be if he was a villian. Both are billionaires , both are geniuses, both lost family and both are masters of being prepared for anything. Doing in-depth research on their enemies is what keeps them a step ahead even against their most powerful enemies.

Dude sacrificed the “Love of his life” for ultimate cosmic power. He needs to be done right in the MCU, like the main villain of a massive overarching sinister plot.

He's interaction with Janet shows his character the best. "Please Miss Van Danye. You're embarrassing yourself."

This and doom from iron man armored adventures are always awesome. Wish we got more from him in the series.

I do love this portrayal of Doctor Doom; though I wonder if the writers of Season 2 would have adapted the Emperor Doom storyline from the comics instead of the “Emperor Stark” that we got…

Man....say what you want about Jon Watts. So far, his MCU movies have had some of the best villains-Vulture, Mysterio and even reminded us why Willem Dafoe is the greatest Green Goblin, period. His Doom is going to be a legit banger. Also, not only did EMH make Dr Doom a legit threat, but they captured his personality perfectly. He does lend a hand to helping the heroes in secret invasion, but does it in his own way. Not to mention, his reaction to Tony attacking him is gold. Treating him like an entitled toddler and being "sigh....are you done?" is perfection. Side note-it's hilarious and kinda meta when in the episode captain america (skrull cap, but still) asks the human torch who he is when Chris Evans played both of them

Earth's Mightiest Heroes was on its way to being the greatest animated super hero show of all time, potentially even surpassing Justice League/Unlimited and Batman: TAS. Cut down in it's prime.

I'm sorry, I do love this version of the character, but my absolute favorite adaptation remains the Dr. Doom that appears in the 1996 Fantastic Four cartoon. (Showing my age here) His quips alone, my dude. S++ When Invisible Woman calls him out for using her to lure the FF into a trap. "Yes, I'm so sorry to involve you in the time worn damsel in distress cliché, Mrs. Richards. I fear the only thing missing is the oncoming train. However, sometimes expediency outweighs originality." When it looks like the Hulk has killed Ben Grimm. "Such a tragedy. Worthy of the writings of Shakespeare or Byron. Or perhaps even, Victor Von Doom." When considering the fact that his plan will destroy all of NYC. "Such a shame really... I never did get to see Kats."

Not just Doom, the F4 are also their best adaptations here.

“The Avengers are cameoing on the Doom Show, not the other way around” That’s the most perfect way to describe Doom’s attitude in general. This is his world; every one of the heroes are, unfortunately for him, just inhabiting it.

Doctor Doom in emh is one of those rare characters who you want to see more of, but if he was overused he would lose a lot of his charm, whether because he’d just show up and kick everyone’s asses (thus making us wonder why he doesn’t just conquer the world already since the heroes are so clearly inferior), or have to get his own ass kicked by the heroes, thus diminishing him as a threat in our eyes. Emh does neither, and as much as I might want to have seen him more, I am also cursed with understanding that his rarity is part of what makes him so great Emh did a great job and it’s a shame it got canned

EMH was the best throw Marvel ever had at an animated MCU, shame Disney axed it

This was such a good series. The picture of the third season with the original Xmen killed me that it didn’t become a thing! Thanks for the insight!

Earth's Mightiest Heroes was an amazing show, I hate how they turned around and retooled it into something more like the MCU, because adapting Marvel's great stories, characters, and history was really something to behold.

I LOVE this version in ehm,its great that you made a video about this villian. If they were gonna make another season im guessing they were gonna use him more or have more cameos..

i love how heroic Doom can be despite being such a villain. Makes him a true Magnificent Bastard

My favourite representations of dr doom is in Iron Man Armoured Adventures. He’s very powerful and intimidating in that show and has a massive presence for the few times he appears.

Whilst I didn't read a lot of Marvel comics as a young child, I was more into the cartoons and live-action films that were coming out in the early 2000's, but even back then Doctor Doom was always THE definitive Marvel villain to me, and in recent years I've come to feel that he still is. To me if he were in the MCU they'd need to do a few things to get him right: The idea of him being a seemingly unstoppable threat initially, that over time comes to be an ever-present and integral part of the MCU, but also never goes to such extreme lengths to where he'd be on the radar in the same way Ultron or Thanos were. That moment in the comics when he gained the powers of a god and was literally unstoppable, only for him to cast his power aside claiming it to be 'beneath him' and just going back to Latveria would be an amazing ending to an MCU film, and is probably as far as they should go I feel in terms of scale with him. I feel he should last multiple phases of the MCU in a similar vein to Loki, but after a fair few appearances early on in a couple Fantastic 4 and Avengers films, give him less but more varied appearances in each phase after that, that alone I feel would keep him interesting without him overstaying his welcome or becoming uninteresting. Plus unlike Loki who really only left a lasting impact in the first Avengers film then was beaten and back to solely a Thor character, Doom I feel should never truly be off the table as a threat and shouldn't be beaten, or at least not until his final appearance, at most his plans on occasion would be foiled. I also feel they should establish him over time as being a necessary evil in a sense, given his 'rule the world' motive being shown to mean he has genuine care for the earth, showing him use his skills to partake in actions that for any other villain would be seen as a redemption arc whilst also being completely in line with his character would also illustrate his wider importance, cementing a simple motive resulting in a complex villain. He's also amazingly skilled with both technology and sorcery, which is an idea we've never seen in the MCU and could result in some really interesting dynamics between certain characters. I'd LOVE to see how he and Doctor Strange would interact since they've worked together on occasions in the comics, heck I'd take a whole film based on the comic where he and Strange go to hell to save his mother's soul. A lot of these aspects, in fact I dare say all of them were covered in EMH in some way, and once again you did a fantastic job illustrating and explaining them. The only thing I think the MCU could do better is simply due to the benefit of potentially more screen time. Seeing him in Latveria and showing why his people love him would go a long way to present the idea that maybe he could successfully rule the world. Him being the ideal ruler could become the next 'Thanos was right' within the fandom and maybe even within the MCU itself. On top of all of that I feel he could hold up his own film if they wanted to do his origin from childhood to becoming ruler of Latveria, which I feel would work not as his introduction to the MCU, but maybe after his first appearance as a villain in a Fantastic 4 film. Sure it wouldn't be a fun for the whole family type of MCU film, it would probably more closely resemble Joker than any other comic book film as it wouldn't be a secret anti-hero story involving him fighting some other villain at the end, but for a character who was the undisputed main Marvel villain for decades, I think having him be the first MCU villain to get a solo film would really hammer the point home that he's a big deal. Honestly that last bit is wishful thinking, as cool and unique as that film could be I doubt the MCU would ever make it given it would probably lack in action for a lot of it.

Doom was definitely adapted excellently. The only villain that I think was not only adapted better but made changes from the classic comic origins that fleshed (no pun intended) out the character in interesting ways, was Ultron.

I am very glad this video was recommended. Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes did a fantastic (no pun intended, really) job with bringing in Doctor Doom, along with the rest of the cast. I was more of a Doom fan once Simon Templeman took over the character in the 90s Fantastic Four animated series. Over the years Doom has proven that he isn't just a Fantastic Four antagonist, he can be the entire Marvel Universe's antagonist. Love the character, when they do him in a good way at least. Nice video detailing his character on the show.

I've often seen Doctor Doom as one of the biggest terrestrial threats in the marvel universe. Though at the same time he'd happily save the world if the heroes begged him to help. He thinks he's the smartest person on the planet and that it's his way or no way, so the reason he wants to rule the world is because he thinks he's the best person for the job. Something that is shown in Latveria where most of the people love living under his rule (there's still a resistance against him). I loved this version of Dr Doom as well as the one from Marvel Ultimate Alliance.

Dr. Doom is in his own league, in the villainy game. Anyone who is a threat to cosmic-level entities can't be compared to any Earthbound villains. Dr. Doom is the apex predator of the Marvel Universe...

So many great modern character adaptations and story beats came from this show !

Ive always liked Dr doom but recently I cant help but love him. The dude is just 10/10. He has become basically a god numerous times, incredibly smart, incredibly powerful, a great king, even as a hero he was (arguably) a better ironman then tony stark is lmfao

Rufus Sewell would be great as Doom. Doom should get a solo MCU movie about his life ending with him taking over Latvaria. We could get some cameos of the Fantastic Four before they got their powers while Doom dormed with Richards in college. Then they can introduce the Fantastic Four in their own movie later.

Happy new year Pillar. I am a huge Doom fan and I love the version of The character from EMH. The show captures Doom's character perfectly (just like everyone else in the series). He always had a presence whenever he appeared on screen and he silences Wasp with just a few words. Speaking of Wasp, may I suggest an analysis on her complicated relationship with Hank and how selfish she was towards him? Looking back Wasp took Pym for granted and never understood or respected his pacifist mindset and that may have played a role in his tragic transformation into Yellow Jacket

Excellent video🙌🏽 For me I feel the new movie adaption should follow the example of Doom in the “Books of Doom” displaying that doom is very complex and has bigger problems to worry about than the avengers and that his actions, still being polarizing are still done for the greater good in his own warped view.

8:36 I feel like doom actually did need tony’s help to find the skrulls, just didn’t want to admit it because of his ego. I liked that especially because it shows for all his power and smarts, he’s not omniscient. there are limits to what he can do, and it has the effect of improving the character overall because by giving him some kind of tangible limit, it makes him feel more realistic and fleshed-out

I think it’s very telling and appropriate that in Doom’s major appearances in this series, he spends the most amount of time of it butting heads with Iron Man. Doom is mainly the FF’s greatest nemesis, but it seems a lot of people don’t know that Doom and Iron Man have a pretty classic on-again off-again rivalry, especially in the 80s runs of IM’s book. In fact, if your sources were correct on the possible listed episodes for the season 3 we never got, one of these episodes would have been possibly the most iconic Doom Vs Iron Man story that exists (“DoomQuest”! Look it up! It’s AMAZING 😆) I’m only saddened we’ll likely never get to see it. It would have been GLORIOUS. Not only is Doom probably my favorite Marvel villain (mainly because he’s also the classiest, dude got serious game lol) but Iron Man is my favorite Marvel hero so seeing the two clash is just gold, imho ❤️ Great video! Fine work, good sir~👍🏽

Doom is such an amazing character. His will to accomplish his goals is what I like most about him

This show got so much right. Literally the Marvel equivalent of the Justice League animated series

Fun Fact: Robert Downy Jr. tried for the role of Dr. Doom in the 2000's FF movies. Also, if the rumors are true that Viggo Mortensen will be the MCU's Dr. Doom, I have nothing but high expectations that I know heir of Isildur will live up to.

This is the best Doctor Doom ever man!!! I hope the MCU gives him this same treatment in live-action! 🙏🏽💪

You did a great job brother. Keep up the great work!!!

This was a nice video. I didn't know Doom appeared that much in Assembled, I thought he only had one appearance and that's it. To me despite seeing Doom face off against the FF a lot, I eventually just grew into seeing him as a everyone villain. I hope the MCU makes him better

The Doom show with cameos by the avengers, man I would pay to see that.

Great Vid! Doom is definitely top tier. I hope the MCU does him justice, but I trust KF & crew. The fact Doom figured the secret invasion out before the Avengers had a clue and then later gave them what they needed to combat it to keep the hassle off his plate and keep them busy so he could go about his business unfettered is simply genius!

So glad you did a video on this. Best version of Doom ever!!!!

Thanks for all of your EMH videos. They got me to go back and rewatch some of the episodes I haven't seen too many tmes (basically the last half of season 2)

I have owned the DVDs of both seasons since I could. Doom has been my favorite Villain since I was 7 years old and this is by far my favorite adaptation of Doom on screen. Even the FF cartoons tend to make him less intelligent than I believe he should be.

Shoutout to all of the people still waiting for a good live action of dr.doom 🙏🏾🥲🥲

Doom is easily my favorite Marvel villain, possibly even my favorite Marvel character overall and this version highlights some of the reasons why. Incredible intelligence, groundbreaking tech, understanding arrogance (something I normally hate in characters), and might to easily back up his claims

Dr Doom is one of my favorite comic book characters period. he has that effortless sense of power and his appearance in this show and in Iron Man Armored Adventures really nails it. Avengers Assemble was really hit or miss in regards to how well Doom was portrayed and the movies sucked in general. The way he treats almost everyone else in the Marvel Universe as mere children whose playing occasionally bothers him is just so entertaining

I always would’ve loved if the team that made this show tackled a Fantastic Four show set in the same universe. Perhaps it wouldn’t have worked with the world they wanted to build but I just love those characters and these versions so much (including Doom of course)

another excellent video i love the vocabulary you use in this video. Something I have noticed in the show is that Doom and Kang share a few of their abilities such as the telekinesis I find it a neat reference to how the two are related

I love how cool calm and collective this doom is.

It was criminal how little screen time he got

The whole idea when creating Doom was, "What if there was a villain that didn't actually break any laws?" That on top of him neither black or white makes my favorite comic book character of all time. Another reason is that he's just right, the world would be a better place if he ruled. It's been shown time and time again that he can singlehandedly save the world

My Top 5 Favorite Marvel villains. 1)Thanos. 2)Dr.Doom. 3)Kang The Conqueror. 4)Kingpin. 5)Green Goblin.

I think you did very well with your Doom video. Hired to agree that this is one of the best iterations of doom. I have found that most versions of him portray him as narcissistic and needy. Thx

I think Doom is one of the most fascinating characters in comics. I especially enjoyed Doom 2099. The 2099 series of titles was, in general, absolutely fantastic. Doom 2099 was really interesting in that, unlike the other characters in the 2099 books, he wasn't some new hero taking the mantle and name of some long gone character in a cyberpunk future. He was actually THE Dr. Doom, who just travelled to the future via his time machine and got stuck there, suffered an humiliating defeat, and decided to upgrade his armour with future technology as a consequence. But there was also this shroud of mystery surrounded his identity, hinting at the possiblity he could actually be Kristoff, a clone or someone else entirely. And, on top of it, in this fairly dystopian cyberpunk future dominated by mega corporation, that had no superheroes, he was actually depicted as a protagonist, a hero, or antihero, at the very least. The whole thing was pretty damn cool and I think it influenced Doom's subsequent depictions in the main Marvel Universe.

Dr Doom needs his own Movie Or series he’s just such a cool and Interesting Character

That is why doom is my favorite marvel character. He is one of the characters with the most agency. He doesn't do anything on a whim. The only flaw is his ego. Which I think is kinda justified. I loved him in Hickmans FF, avengers and secret wars runs. That was as close to perfect doom that you can get.

Another dope part of the show I found rewatching EMH last year is Dr Doom was teased in the first episode with Tony's intro locking people away he says I'll be holding a cell for your boss to Lucia Von Bardas, such a dope freaking show

I think the overwhelming theme of modern dr doom writing is that he is a man of overwhelming cosmic destiny, who presents a mysterious but consummate conclusion to the entire marvel story. A man who, in the pit of our souls, we know will eventually prevail. We Know there is nothing that can stop it, like the March of time whatever it is, it's coming. That's why it's called Doom's day.

Great video as always. I would argue that doom has more consistency than you are giving him credit for and that this is an incredibly faithful adaptation. Going as far back to his first appearance, he beat the FF within the first five pages. despite the teaser page claiming that the FF are what stand between him and world domination, he doesn't kill them when he captures them. Instead, he has them run errands for him, using the time machine he casually invented and gets away in the end. The "if he was defeated or killed, it was a doom bot" thing has been around since his third appearance. He was also very similar to this in secret wars which was written in '84. there, he was more than a straight villain and was the POV character for a lot of the massive crossover. In Emperor doom(which emperor stark is a loose adaptation of) the first thing doom does after he takes over the world is end apartheid. the only thing missing here was the pettiness towards Richards and even that is alluded to by thing and by the fact that he was clearly watching them

I love Doom. He’s a great villain and the inspiration of one of my favorite artists, MF DOOM

I saw this EMH episode for the first time just a few days go. Before then, I never understood what was so special about this character or why people were so passionate about him. But that first interaction with Wasp alone completely changed my mind. I had to pause & rewind because I was so taken aback by how threatening he was.

I love how you went into details and say that they are in doom show and not avengers show and it interesting

Really solid show. Also low bars to clear, and a hard character to write well. He was decent in Armored Adventures if memory serves.

Thank you so much!!!! Doctor Doom is my favorite marvel villain ( yes I know how original) but he really is an incredible villain, and this show did him so perfect. This is the doom I want in the MCU!

Hell yes!!! EMH Doom is such a wonderful distillation

man i miss this show, great vid pal

Everything about EMH is perfection.

Doom is one of my favourite villains!

I've been waiting for this episode since your first EMH Episode this is my head canon version of Doom's voice, its so amazing

This Viktor von'Doom and Iron Man Armoured Adventures made Doom the most terrifying villain as well tanking War Machines trifle weaponry and making Tony's armour look like a toaster with LED lights

I absolutely loved this doom, it confused me so much as a kid when he was speed scary yet helpful and I really love that nuance now, but putting this doom up against AA doom, who's first impression to me was him spending half an episode on the back of some creature screaming and then getting himself thrown into hell...well...leaves something to be desired. In fact I stopped watching the show after that episode because it really showed how AA was nothing next to EMH

I fricken love this show it is amazing to see someone talking about it

Congrats on getting to 12k subs!

Your new channel picture is really nice!

Doom has always been my favorite bad guy. Because there was nothing special about him. He was just a genius. The same reason I loved Batman as well. Superman is a dirt alien! These guys are just brilliant.

I hoped that in MCU, the Fantastic Four helped Avengers with the time travel issue, they got the expertise on that field. I mean in the MCU almost all that was techy and deus ex machina was related to Iron Man.

great video mate

A:EMH was SUCH a good show. They did Secret Invasion with like a 32nd of the amount of heroes the comics had for their version, and the MADE IT WORK! An aside, but I think when Marvel got the rights back to do Star Wars, they grafted a lot of Doom onto their portrayal of Vader; he became clever and imposing and powerful in a way we hadn't see before.

This is an important comment not because EMH's Doom was so well done, though it was, but because adaptations, heck, even comic story arcs have been so bad. We need this highlighted because there are a number of terrible missteps in movies and TV and comics. Iirc it was seanbaby that pointed out doom was flexible enough (mostly via the doombot escape clause) to anchor a simple kids book or a complex epic. But we want epic. That same plans within plans/doombot escape clause has lead to depictions that would completely misguide the MCU from the subtlies we need. Nuances we can find on our tv almost exclusively in EMH. I need a series of these videos sent to MCU heads, because frankly if it's not at least this good I'd rather not see Doom in the MCU.

2:06 It's funny you put that clip at the time you say that because Enchantress is literally showing Loki a bird's eye view of the Avengers lmao. Obviously different circumstances and Loki is severely underestimating them but still.

The Avengers being cameos on the Doom Show is your best line here :p In the Marvel Universe, it shows, as both Doom and Thanos get to the finish line when all other players were taken out in the Marvel reality-reset event plotlines.