Dodge Caliber SubFrame Replace

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RedneckRickem

RedneckRickem

Күн бұрын

How to change the sub frame on a Dodge Caliber

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@adolfosanz5938
@adolfosanz5938 3 жыл бұрын
Dude you fucking rock, watched your video from beginning to end, love that you mentioned every bolt size and that “cheers guys” because you know what you are doing my friend
@davidlawhon9303
@davidlawhon9303 5 жыл бұрын
Man! You are so cool and calm, when you describe how to do it, you make me feel like anyone can do it. But your great! Thanks
@jamesculpepper4789
@jamesculpepper4789 6 жыл бұрын
Just swapped out subframe today. using a lift and air tools took about 2 hours. Great video saved me alot of time and money.
@isaiabusenbar6521
@isaiabusenbar6521 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks was wondering on time.
@kenturocy4489
@kenturocy4489 6 жыл бұрын
It took two of us about 6 hours to change this part out on a 2007 Dodge Caliber. Your video was very helpful during the process but we never want to do one of these jobs again:)
@BernardSmiegal
@BernardSmiegal 8 ай бұрын
Saved me 100 less headaches Simply done, Simply explained. BIG PLUS calling out metric sizes. Big plus!..Camera work was great, you could actually follow! We need more of this nature, soon. Good luck with the bus. Peace and THANK YOU!
@Jaymon1203213
@Jaymon1203213 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. I bought my '08 a little over a year ago, since my 16 year old Alero had kicked the bucket (16 years, lol, who would've thought!). First oil change I got, my mechanic pulled me aside to show me the subframe. It wasn't as bad as the one you showed. It was bought from an auction, so they had to do a lot of patch work to bring it up to safety standards. But there was rust, he told me not to hang onto it for longer than a couple of years. Thing is, the engine had very low mileage. Not even 45,000 miles on it (I'm guessing they did an engine swap). I don't want to get rid of it because of a part that can be replaced. Plus my fellow co-worker is an unlicensed driveway mechanic, and I know he wants my money. :) Thank you so much for this video. If you have a paypal, let me know what it is. Your advice is potentially saving me thousands of dollars.
@kjlortz403
@kjlortz403 9 ай бұрын
Great video!! After watching your video, my son and I replaced this sub-frame on my grandson’s 2012 Caliber. It was completely rusted/rotted out. About 3 hours to remove the original and 2.5 hours to install the new one. We run a tap through all threaded holes to make sure the threads were clean and the new bolts would turn in easily. Thank you for the detailed video. Made the job much easier.
@MichaelJones-yg4jw
@MichaelJones-yg4jw 2 жыл бұрын
Just did this on my friends '07 Caliber....them steering gear box bolts are the hardest s***s on that thing. But did it all with ratching wrenches an sockets.
@johnvandemark6264
@johnvandemark6264 Жыл бұрын
Getting ready to do my wife's Patriot, same setup. ❤ Thanks for the great video.
@ponyboycurtis007
@ponyboycurtis007 8 жыл бұрын
Cool stuff Rick! That has to be the simplest sub frame swap video ever made. I love your videos because they are in layman terms. I am a budding shade tree mechanic and I like to kick back and watch your stuff because it familiarizes myself with the average underside of any car. My current project is a 1975 Chevelle Malibu. I just redid the brake lines, transmission pan, differential/pinion seal and gas tank swap. Without guys like you making videos I might have been too intimidated, like I was a couple years ago. But now I know its all about trial and error.. and just getting under the damn car .. examining and learning to troubleshoot in steps. I have 4 cars and the newest is a 2005 Altima.. so learning to wrench is not only fun but a necessity. THANKS BUD! ROCK ON!
@cscalhoun2011
@cscalhoun2011 5 жыл бұрын
Great help. Appreciate the insight to such a major problem with the subframe. Mine was rustier, but your video saved hours of time and frustration. Many thanks.
@jack0cat
@jack0cat 5 жыл бұрын
I’m going to be doing this today on my sons caliber thanks for the great video and information about all that needs to be done. SWEET!! 👍👍
@dannunyas5642
@dannunyas5642 5 жыл бұрын
Doing mine right now using this video. Saving me a lot of money. For me I had to heat up some seized bolts but everything is fairly easy. Many thanks man
@Noaxe_Tegrinde
@Noaxe_Tegrinde 6 жыл бұрын
Great video Rick...you really know what you're doing! I don't reckon that your neck is as red as you say it is! I'm too old now to tackle these types of jobs but my 2000yr Focus just failed on a rusted out sub-frame...but also adjacent bodywork rusted too. There was a time I might have tackled a job like this from a Haynes manual but the KZfaq videos are SO much better. It was just a real pleasure watching you do this in your clever, down to earth practical way. People like you are really generous folk as this will help a lot of home DIYers. Now at least I know what's involved and why it costs a fair old amount of money to repair. Good for you! Cheers from the UK NoAxe
@elmeromero1794
@elmeromero1794 4 жыл бұрын
For those that don't know. The subframe on certain years of calibers is under recall. My cousin has a 2007 and her daughter has a 2009 and dealer replaced both at no cost.
@Dave1979z
@Dave1979z 2 жыл бұрын
So if I contact a dealer they will replace it? That's potentially good news!!
@elmeromero1794
@elmeromero1794 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dave1979z contact your dealer and give them you VIN number. Only certain VINs and years qualify.
@Matt-hg2iz
@Matt-hg2iz Жыл бұрын
So wait am I doing all of this on my grandma's car for no reason? I pulled an entire rear subframe/chassis out of a salvage yard in Massachusetts DURING A RAINSTORM
@elmeromero1794
@elmeromero1794 Жыл бұрын
@@Matt-hg2iz you might be doing it for nothing but check first. As I stated my cousins 2007 caliber subframe was done by the dealer. But my co workers 2011 was badly rusted also and his was not under recall and he ordered one on eBay for $129 and we both took off and installed the new one on his.
@seanhoward8025
@seanhoward8025 4 ай бұрын
Why would you go through all of this work and put an OLD subframe back in? And why use an aftermarket Chinese subframe for $129 when you can get a Mopar part for $140 online?
@Dedrich
@Dedrich 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Rick, I got the same problem with my caliber. Subframe is gonna be here Wednesday. Wish me luck!
@TheXscorpius
@TheXscorpius 5 жыл бұрын
Hello, finally after watching your video, I was able to replace my sub-frame on my dodge caliber 2008, I want to thank you for taking the time in making this instructional video on how to do this job. Thank you very much. Keep up the good work. Take care and God bless.
@starlabriggs-henderson3408
@starlabriggs-henderson3408 4 жыл бұрын
TheXscorpius I was told my son sub frame on his 2008 Dodge Caliber needs replacing...a few other things hub and struts $1800 that sounds excessive just put a newer engine in it
@manthony1320
@manthony1320 3 жыл бұрын
Man your great this video made my job so much easier besides me fighting the years of salt rust on my 08 rt telling the sizes helped out keep up the awesome work brother
@ronaldmahoney1283
@ronaldmahoney1283 2 жыл бұрын
You did a Great job explainig the job in detail! Im always working underneath cars also, but no one talks about the entire job from beginning to end, step by step!
@trinidadcruz5884
@trinidadcruz5884 Жыл бұрын
Fastest way is to use a 4 and half inch cutoff wheel and cut away the bottom of the old subframe and then cut off the bolts from underneath. Tie up the rack to the motor mount with a zip tie, cut the swivel allen sway bar links and replace with new after, then drop it out.
@bretth1714
@bretth1714 3 жыл бұрын
Doing this tomorrow. Thanks for the video! It will probably cut at least an hour of time out knowing what needs to come out and what doesn't! 🍻
@michaelallen59
@michaelallen59 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for video. Been looking everywhere. Nice description and video. Thanks
@jamesmajor8563
@jamesmajor8563 4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for the video, it enabled me and my son in law to swap out the subframe on my 2010 patriot it took us about 9 hours but we got it done. Thanks
@khalijee79
@khalijee79 4 жыл бұрын
Was it the same way? My daughter needs hers replaced on her patriot
@lenshannon6904
@lenshannon6904 4 жыл бұрын
thanks making this video ! saved a ton of money replacing it myself . The rack bolts were a b*%ch because my cross member was almost one third gone. thanks again we live in the great white north (canada) need guys like you on you tube CHEERS LEN
@CustombyclyneCbc
@CustombyclyneCbc 5 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video. just bought a 2007 Caliber and will need a engine cradle. this video helps
@aaronhodgson744
@aaronhodgson744 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Video, Brother! My Dodge Calibre is in for the same repair to pass its MOT, and your video justified the price I had to pay. It's a big job! Also needed 2 front wishbones, 2 front Brake Disks and Drivers side Brake Pad. Gonna cost £900. It's a 2006, and hopefully, will last another year yet. My Subframe was shocking! Actually dangerous. Seems to be a big problem with Chrysler, though, Subframes collecting water and rusting like there is no tomorrow. Keep up the good work! Subscribed 👍👍👍
@robgarbart9161
@robgarbart9161 8 жыл бұрын
Great video my friend it was very helpful and informative. SWEET!!!
@everett6733
@everett6733 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! This was very helpful. I had to do this on a 08 jeep patriot and I had trouble with the transmission mount and found it was easier to pull the subframe with the power steering rack and swaybar still connected to it. Hope that helps someone else. But thanks for the video, best video I could find on this!
@efremsmith5431
@efremsmith5431 4 жыл бұрын
Did you have to disconnect the steering rack from anything else?
@codyfisher3706
@codyfisher3706 2 жыл бұрын
If u disconnect the lines it might be easier but then u have to bleed the steering system and that can sometimes be a bitch.
@larrymcgregor2277
@larrymcgregor2277 4 жыл бұрын
Great job explaining and filming ..
@raygonzales668
@raygonzales668 5 жыл бұрын
Very impressed with your video. Thanks you were very informative to exactly what I needed to know. I don’t usually like and subscribe, but I have on this video. Well done
@jacqueslanctot1984
@jacqueslanctot1984 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Buddy for sharing this video it really help me to better understand mechanical and how to change this part. even if I have a Jeep Compass 2011 the subframe is the same. Keep the good work !
@zx8401ztv
@zx8401ztv 8 жыл бұрын
Bloody hell!!, that subframe was swiss cheese. Great job rick :-D
@DRake-jt2zs
@DRake-jt2zs 5 жыл бұрын
Dude....good video. Especially for schmucks like me with no lift.
@jeffmeyers7562
@jeffmeyers7562 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video nice job need to replace in my wife’s car you made it look like it wasn’t the worst repair to do
@rodger6940
@rodger6940 3 жыл бұрын
Bro it was so easy it took me like 35 minutes thanks for the video
@ameehasa5504
@ameehasa5504 7 жыл бұрын
Thank u very good learning video ,,the problems of most dodge is subframe
@mushpaladin4159
@mushpaladin4159 7 жыл бұрын
Great vid by the way.👍👍
@christophertinal5176
@christophertinal5176 3 жыл бұрын
I'm replacing this on my 2007 jeep patriot right now, and I have no idea how to get at the driver's side 17mm steering rack bolt. Maybe it's just the patriot. But I have the "rear roll mount " and some power steering lines sitting right over the bolt. Even if I could get a 17 mm on it, the bolt would have nowhere to go. I'm currently trying to remove the rear roll mount. Thinking I need to buy an extended flex head 16mm. Because I got the back two bolts and the top "through bolt" out. But the front most bolt i don't think i can access any other way.
@DolfocarAli
@DolfocarAli 6 жыл бұрын
what about dodge journey 2015 dose it have a sub-frame? and can i replaceit?
@ferncole1418
@ferncole1418 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video where you replace the rear subframe ???
@meredithblodgett9157
@meredithblodgett9157 8 жыл бұрын
rick is doing a great job.
@Takeover738
@Takeover738 3 жыл бұрын
I just did a rack and pinion on a 2008 jeep patriot the alldata manual states to mark subframe before removal with a crayon or magic marker if you dont it would mess up alighment. My question is did you do that with your subframe replacement? I tried the diy wheel alighment to get me by until i get real i get real wheel alighment since i had to remove tie rods from the old rack to the new one. Im hoping i installed that subframe correctly.
@thatgirlaintplaying8768
@thatgirlaintplaying8768 4 жыл бұрын
Mines a 09 caliber Would this video be of any help for the 09 model.
@hellcatredeye-g6582
@hellcatredeye-g6582 7 жыл бұрын
I don't miss living up north all that Rust all that salt on the roads during snowstorms..don't have that problem in Atlanta I work on cars to a lot easier down here without that Rust. Just the beer gets warm faster. Lol
@oilcoolman
@oilcoolman 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid. .. what were the indications it needed doing ? I noticed the crusty bits were facing up so you would not see them till you removed it.
@boomhauer0079
@boomhauer0079 8 жыл бұрын
Clean shop buddy
@matthewzuleger2222
@matthewzuleger2222 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have to drop the sub frame to replace the rack and pinion
@walsh7008
@walsh7008 7 жыл бұрын
I have the same problem. but its with the rear crossmember. Is this a difficult job? since its front wheel drive i suspect its easier, but please do let me know
@corala3588
@corala3588 7 жыл бұрын
I just find out my car have this same problem is this a MUST DO to fix right away or can i just wait until April?
@2InfinityRKX
@2InfinityRKX 6 жыл бұрын
Is the sway bar connected and bolted to the subframe?
@edesignmchenry
@edesignmchenry 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video
@thomashocher3396
@thomashocher3396 4 жыл бұрын
How did you hold the engine up. Just with the jack?
@stevenkelble5634
@stevenkelble5634 2 жыл бұрын
Great video good info i had to cut some of my bolts off, dang northern Ohio rust ugh.
@crispyd69able
@crispyd69able 3 жыл бұрын
I'm working with the same car. I'm trying to get mine back in but can't. Having problems with the sway bar and rack and pinion location. Does the sway bar and pinion go under the the motor mount bracket? I can't tell by seeing the video.
@mushpaladin4159
@mushpaladin4159 7 жыл бұрын
Is a 2002 dodge neon the same? Can't seem to find a vid for it.
@Willy7212
@Willy7212 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video. I am also from Canada. Would you please tell me where you got the engine cradle from? I need to get one and any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.
@paddler5291
@paddler5291 6 жыл бұрын
awesome vid thanks
@justinmckee2256
@justinmckee2256 2 жыл бұрын
So I know these are different from the SRT4 cali but how similar are they? I can do it in the driveway too?
@22raceready
@22raceready 10 ай бұрын
Question for you on installing the new subframe. Were you able to install it with the a arms and ball joints attached to the new subframe or do you need to install the subframe and then attach the arms?
@ramtuff2007
@ramtuff2007 8 жыл бұрын
awesome video rickem shweet cheers mate
@qualityreno9689
@qualityreno9689 Жыл бұрын
thanks for the great videos. but where did you get the subframe from?
@bbbmazfamilyovereverything9924
@bbbmazfamilyovereverything9924 2 жыл бұрын
I'm about to do this same thing I got the car very cheap super low miles runs like new has crack an I'm just going to change it an with these gas prices today I got very lucky it's 2008 dodge avenger se 2.4 super easy on gas thanks for the video boss
@horacesamuels2052
@horacesamuels2052 3 жыл бұрын
Big up yu self mon nuff respect . video help i. Mon.Your so calm god bless you .1 love in every language.2020
@mauroclementes1094
@mauroclementes1094 5 жыл бұрын
Good job brother thanks
@Bigpoppa-gi4dc
@Bigpoppa-gi4dc 8 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah! Glad to see you back in action wrenchin like a mad man! Stickers?
@michaelsavich9348
@michaelsavich9348 3 жыл бұрын
sweat video,...nice job!!!
@geezerhull
@geezerhull 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. especially for stating the wrench sizes. all very helpfull. In my case the subframe is ok but I need to replace the rack. can that be done without removing the subframe?
@joellarussell6372
@joellarussell6372 5 жыл бұрын
Just lower the subframe to get clearance to replace the rack and pinion
@Wolfcreek77
@Wolfcreek77 7 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately my mother was in the same boat as others with her Caliber not being covered by the warranty they gave for these. I had a little trouble here and there but with your help I got that sucker out and I'm about to replace it. I really appreciate your video, thanks man!
@devinrobinson6543
@devinrobinson6543 7 жыл бұрын
Wolfcreek77 mine wasnt recalled on my 08 last week bit this week it is check with the fca if yours is recalled
@lowebody
@lowebody 5 жыл бұрын
Hey , i stumbled across this video due to the fact im trying to replace a sway bar on a jeep patriot and i cannot figure out how to get bar in . Looks like this subframe cross member has to drop some to get it in there.
@devinrobinson6543
@devinrobinson6543 7 жыл бұрын
mine in my 08 caliber failed inspection friday because of the rusted subframe yesterday i got a recall notice in the mail for an extended 10 year off to the dealer it goes so everone with an o8 they are now recalled not just the 07
@iturbo5733
@iturbo5733 3 жыл бұрын
Was the subframe replaced because of rust? I am considering replacing the subframe on my Caliber SRT-4. I was surprised at how rusty it has gotten since I purchased it new in '09 and the car only has 62k miles.
@stephen6759
@stephen6759 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! What brand and model of 1/2" impact is that? I bought a better one than I had on Amazon for $65. But I really want a good one too.
@2InfinityRKX
@2InfinityRKX 6 жыл бұрын
i bought a 2007 dodge caliber few months ago. i notice it was squeaking like hell so i got under the car and found out that the squeak came from my rotted out front sub frame. i posted up a video on my public YT. Not sure if the local Dodge dealership is willing to fix this recall if it's still in affect? does anyone know because if not I'll just have to do it myself.
@janitaross6641
@janitaross6641 3 жыл бұрын
Where would I get the subframe for my Dodge Caliber 2008?
@jessiahsmith8606
@jessiahsmith8606 7 жыл бұрын
would this be hard to do on a tiberon
@Udahn22
@Udahn22 5 жыл бұрын
Where did you buy the subframe from?
@dufey1969
@dufey1969 7 жыл бұрын
great vid where did you get the new sub frame ?
@edwardthornton7615
@edwardthornton7615 4 ай бұрын
Is it the same process on a awd
@benjamingiles8924
@benjamingiles8924 3 жыл бұрын
Took me about 8 hours with hand tools in the yard.
@shdataredmond9482
@shdataredmond9482 2 жыл бұрын
I’m looking for a front subframe replacement for my 2011 Jeep Compass. Anybody know where I can find one?
@marcadominguez
@marcadominguez 3 жыл бұрын
Bro I need help all the bolts that you took off for the subframe including the sway bar any type of motor mounts or the fuel rail bolts. Pretty much just all the bolts that you took off in your video I know this is going to be a question that you probably don't want to answer but it would really help me out a lot all my bolts I took out were stripped and I took them to go get sized I can't figure it out I can't find a book on it to tell me what the bolt sizes are I really would like it if you could help me. I want to replace all the bolts I didn't get a bag when I bought my subframe like you did so I was really really upset about that. If you know the sizes bro I would be so grateful if you could tell me what they were thank you so much man
@JaseCJay
@JaseCJay 7 жыл бұрын
Tnx pisano!
@foxx5522
@foxx5522 4 жыл бұрын
I cant find this part anywhere for a 2007 dodge caliber cant find it on any auto part stores
@ochenhetree
@ochenhetree 5 жыл бұрын
How much should repair cost with parts?
@JayHibner
@JayHibner 3 жыл бұрын
How long did it take to swap out?
@justinracine4392
@justinracine4392 5 жыл бұрын
video works with the jeep patriot to. until you get to the rear motor mount and rackin pinion bolt. then it gets tricky
@jaimetorres4958
@jaimetorres4958 2 жыл бұрын
You should make a video on how to take off and put on a 2007 dodge calliber hood
@stevenstuckert32
@stevenstuckert32 7 жыл бұрын
I live in Ohio i have a 2008 caliber rt awd 112000miles and im replacing my front sub frame tomorrow myself, thanks for the video, I would not be attempting it with out it
@stevenstuckert32
@stevenstuckert32 7 жыл бұрын
Dodge gave me the run around, they actually try to sell me a car over the phone lol classy
@RedneckRickem
@RedneckRickem 7 жыл бұрын
LOL
@corala3588
@corala3588 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, were you able to change it ok? I also have a 2008 Dodge Caliber and just found out that the frame is all rusted and that I need to change it. how much did you pay for the frame?
@devinrobinson6543
@devinrobinson6543 7 жыл бұрын
Steven Stuckert its a recall take it to the dealer
@johnsmithwick9346
@johnsmithwick9346 7 жыл бұрын
You're a saint Rick. Thank you. I'd happily pay a few bucks to access this video, but here it is for free.
@Dave1979z
@Dave1979z 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I need to do mine, this video definitely helps. I may have to replace the steering rack too, once I see how bad it is. I'm hoping it's just rusted loose from the subframe if not, at least having the subframe out of the way will make replacing it much easier. After I do this I'll have basically an entirely new front end. I live in northern Michigan so... there's that. Rust sucks. Thinking of filling the new subframe with expanding foam or something to seal it off better and painting it with rust oleum beforehand. Any thoughts on that? I just don't want to have to deal with it again and when I decide to sell I can let the person know that it won't be a future issue because I took extra measures... thanks in advance! And once again, thanks for this video! I'll be using it as a guide for my job.
@eternalsoundschicago
@eternalsoundschicago 6 ай бұрын
The foam will hold moisture. Best to fluid film it inside and out and check it yearly for a fresh coat. The AC line is a big issue since it drips right onto the subframe from the top and can fill it with water. Get a 3/8" 90-degree barbed elbow and insert it into the AC line with a clear tubing line that is zip-tied to the frame to reroute the dripping away from the frame. I say clear because you can see if it clogs when doing an annual inspection. Good luck!
@jenniferlraynor
@jenniferlraynor 3 жыл бұрын
Please come and fix mine. That looks like a pain 😢 thanks for the VIDEO 😁
@MEQUPWER
@MEQUPWER 8 жыл бұрын
pb blaster! ive never in my life heard of subframes needin replaced and rickem has a new one to do every week or so, lmfao Im in pa so my weather is the same as you, for the most part
@lijoima
@lijoima 7 жыл бұрын
cheap Chrysler junk
@devinrobinson6543
@devinrobinson6543 7 жыл бұрын
flappy188 im in pa and mine failed inspection because of the roted subframe
@mushpaladin4159
@mushpaladin4159 7 жыл бұрын
My dodge neon just stressed fractured from rust n I'm only one state from you... Sooo, it does happen.
@MEQUPWER
@MEQUPWER 7 жыл бұрын
model, and state?
@MrTravisAl
@MrTravisAl 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe he found a niche to make money. It is for sure super common on Dodge calibers.
@Sanjeevan.N
@Sanjeevan.N 2 жыл бұрын
Hello any one know how many hours delears charge of this work?
@seanhoward8025
@seanhoward8025 4 ай бұрын
Did anyone ever post the torque values for this job?
@mikekubas1588
@mikekubas1588 Жыл бұрын
awesome video watched to help a local community member. but ur forearms are bigger than ur legs. very interesting.
@laserfalcon
@laserfalcon 6 жыл бұрын
thanks for great video, I was advised easier to drop steering rack with the subframe , your thoughts?
@efremsmith5431
@efremsmith5431 4 жыл бұрын
How did it work out dropping the steering rack I'm doing mine now and the steering rack bolts are stuck
@khalijee79
@khalijee79 4 жыл бұрын
Following
@josephfox1192
@josephfox1192 8 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah you got a ball pen hammer 🔨 good deal
@reginaldmahone1791
@reginaldmahone1791 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@marcadominguez
@marcadominguez 3 жыл бұрын
Fucking aye BRO that's how you make a video!
@fupabox
@fupabox 8 жыл бұрын
good vid... that subframe is covered on an extended recall warranty...my buddy just had his 2007 replaced for free at the dealer
@JW1996
@JW1996 6 жыл бұрын
is this available to anyone with this issue
@Nephromk
@Nephromk 5 жыл бұрын
Car compass 2007
@krich042589
@krich042589 4 жыл бұрын
Broke my subframe Thursday
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