Does BG Platinum GDI Intake Cleaner Remove Carbon? It's time to find out!

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Technician Red

Technician Red

Күн бұрын

In this video we will be testing the effectiveness of BG Product's "Platinum Air Intake, Valve & Combustion Chamber Cleaner" in how well it can remove actual carbon deposits that have accumulated on the back of intake valves and intake runners.
0:00 Introduction
1:45 Product & Tool Overview
4:32 Valve Before Cleaning
5:44 Performing Cleaning Service
9:12 Valves Right After Cleaning
12:31 Valves After 500 Miles
14:00 Walnut Blasting
16:41 Conclusion

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@michaelkeyser8371
@michaelkeyser8371 24 күн бұрын
This is the first very comprehensive cleaning of the valves I have seen on KZfaq. Thanks
@shaneomegaauto1497
@shaneomegaauto1497 2 ай бұрын
Just had the BG Diesel Induction Service demonstrated to me on a 3.2L BT50 with 140,000km on the clock. Results were similar and not as I expected but the chemist from BG explained that due to this vehicle not having the clean done every 2nd service (30,000kms) from new the results were sort of expected and also explained WHY.. the WHY is because the product is designed to remove the carbon/soot in a slow fashion, basically layers removed one at a time to avoid large amounts of rubbish passing through the combustion cylinder at any one time. Imagine if it was all removed in one process! (90mins give or take) If you have ever removed a diesel intake and cleaned it out by hand you will know how much carbon/soot they can contain. Its LOTS.... like 1 or 2 cans full or more. This made sense to me. Yes you could see the product had penetrated the carbon/soot after the one tin but not moved much of it from the EGR valve (where we could visually see). I was also told a 2nd can should have been used. A "double dose" for first time cleans is recommended where its not been periodic from the start. I'm keen to try it again with this in mind and knowing that the risk to the engine is as low and safe as possible.
@elbowjoe361
@elbowjoe361 2 ай бұрын
Very comprehensive video conclusively showing that chemicals should be used to delay the eventual need for walnut husk blasting at a higher interval. Thanks for the diligence to film the entire process. Yours is the only video I have seen to do so and to clearly film the results.
@tssci6774
@tssci6774 5 күн бұрын
Thanks for an honest evaluation. If you look at the SDS, these products contain 70-80% petroleum oil. That's why you saw the oil residue on the valves, and smoke from the exhaust, it wasnt doing anything. I have used AC Delco Top End Cleaner, made by Lubrizol, top supplier of additives to many oil companies. This stuff contains less than 5% carrier oil, and a dozen industrial solvents. Works much better than those oil based cleaners.
@justbinhumbled8207
@justbinhumbled8207 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for your time in making the video. I have used both and walnut blasting and is by far the best result. The Bg stuff is not meant to take big chunks off of the valves as the engine could be damaged. The Bg stuff is meant to take of layers at a time to avoid causing damage to the engine. I’m a tech by trade and not a Bg sales person.
@ericl8593
@ericl8593 3 ай бұрын
Do u recommend using it as a preventative maintenance measure ? Like once a year ? I got 2 brand new vehicles so no carbon build up to start . I got a clean slate to work with
@davidward5327
@davidward5327 3 ай бұрын
@@ericl8593 Following
@Freedom1man
@Freedom1man Ай бұрын
Why not try a light spray of kroil and a bit of soak time for it to cut through the carbon before using the BG stuff? I have used Kroil to uncoke the EGR on gasoline engines successfully. Not as well as when I have used a torch, but, I couldn't always use a torch.
@PWRVTEC
@PWRVTEC 20 күн бұрын
Great video and thank you for doing this to show how the cleaners/system works (well does not work) and also how Walnut blasting does work and how. Only sure fire way to keep the build up of carbon on the intake valves on a GDI engine caused by ingestion damaging combustion by-products via the intake air charge from factory PCV system is install a complete air/oil separating crankcase evacuation system that provides full time vacuum on the crankcase and has baffling to separate the fluids and air (unlike most catch cans that just suck the vapors/fluids right through) Also using a cleanside separator will address ingestion upstream of the throttle body. I use one every engine I own as I did all recommended things, Top of line approved oils, 4-5k oil changes, no short trips, top tier fuel and not babying the engine as well as avoid long idle periods and disabling stop/start and at 80k carbon build up in intake valves are not like some I've seen and cleaned but not acceptable by any means. Walnut blasting is only way to get baked on carbon off (great visual btw), and cleaners that are ingested before the valves to clean them, if carbon actually comes off in an amount big enough to make a difference it will score/damage anything from cylinder walls, rings, turbo exhaust wheel and enough will clog a catalytic convertor.
@PWRVTEC
@PWRVTEC 20 күн бұрын
Finally I can promote your video and show what works and what dont without explaining each day lol
@user-jn7or4ry3p
@user-jn7or4ry3p 16 күн бұрын
Nice video, I was wondering about this BG. Thank you
@flyntmyrick6291
@flyntmyrick6291 2 ай бұрын
Excellent video!
@ysitrim88
@ysitrim88 4 ай бұрын
Good video!
@ozstriker4075
@ozstriker4075 3 ай бұрын
I had similar levels of baked on carbon on my N54 335i. I had to do a seafoam and berryman soak and use a brush and plastic pick tool to remove most of the carbon. I now use aerosol valve cleaners as maintenance to keep the intake valves clean. I don't bother with the intermittent revving, I just jam the throttle with a bar at 3k rpm and it does the job
@rocketmagnet427
@rocketmagnet427 Ай бұрын
Have you got a catch can fitted. It should stop about 80% of the buildup
@ozstriker4075
@ozstriker4075 Ай бұрын
@@rocketmagnet427 yes installed a 2nd low side catch can as well which should make a significant difference. It's certainly helped with my smokey exhaust resulting from a previous owner removing the 2ndary cats
@Rzn8B58
@Rzn8B58 4 күн бұрын
Really cool. Good video! Do you think the BG product might help loosen the carbon deposit pre walnut blast resulting in a better finish or will walnut blasting do the same cleaning by itself?
@snowasian
@snowasian 7 күн бұрын
Can you follow up with the proper tool and adapters then post results? The BG platinum tool does a much better job of atomizing and distributing the chemistry, so would be interested to see the results. I think those furnace nozzle services do a great job of addressing throttle body or iac deposits but not so much for intake valve deposits in a GDI engine.
@benicavalera2543
@benicavalera2543 5 ай бұрын
i tought you suppose to soak those valves with the liquid? just spray a foam based cleaner / carb choke spray and fine sanding it should clean those valve
@jimadkins4772
@jimadkins4772 Ай бұрын
Preventive Maintenance is a must. Preventative is no longer used and mitary dropped it many years ago
@highrzr
@highrzr Ай бұрын
With GDIs, I never put much trust into a can of anything doing much of anything. The cans of stuff might work if done every 5 -10k?
@pfoxhound
@pfoxhound 5 ай бұрын
Try Mann provent 200.
@Rubiflake
@Rubiflake 5 ай бұрын
I'm about to do this to my L83 swapped Jeep TJ, not the result I was hoping for from the BG, I hope I have better luck, but I doubt it.
@TechnicianRed
@TechnicianRed 5 ай бұрын
In hindsight it's probably best it doesn't really work all that well. If it did, people would be running it in their 200K mile clunkers and clogging up the catalytic converters or causing internal engine wear/damage. I forgot to mention in the video but I definitely wouldn't recommend any cleaning process other than walnut blasting if the intake valves have any more carbon than this Buick had due to the reason just stated. Leave the chemicals for the routine maintainence.
@theaustralianconundrum
@theaustralianconundrum 5 ай бұрын
I am in Australia. Our 2013 Hyundai Premium 1.6 liter turbo diesel has just been sold to it's new owner with 126,000 miles on the clock. Always used Caltex Vortex Premium diesel fuel and full synthetic oil plus OEM filter changed every 5,000 miles. Presale check was carried out by my mechanic including removal of inlet manifold and inspection of inlet valves. The colour is a light grey soot with zero sign of any carbon buildup. It has been a fantastic little car with huge low down torque and highway fuel consumption around 60mpg and 40mpg in urban stop start. Cheers.@@TechnicianRed
@charlestimmis273
@charlestimmis273 2 ай бұрын
Do the valves have to be closed on each cylinder when you are doing walnut blasting?
@TechnicianRed
@TechnicianRed 2 ай бұрын
Yes the valves must be closed during walnut blasting.
@jasonhuffman5355
@jasonhuffman5355 3 ай бұрын
Great video but there is only 1 mistake. You are supposed to use 2 cans of intake valve and combustion chamber cleaner. After 1st can is used you are supposed to let the engine idle for 15 minutes and then add a 2nd can to complete the service.
@BillyClements555
@BillyClements555 3 ай бұрын
This only applies to the 11 ounce cans, kit #6592. He's using a 22 ounce, which is a single can. But yes, otherwise both cans.
@Jornm.aalerud
@Jornm.aalerud 2 ай бұрын
@@BillyClements555 absolutely not. There is 2 part kit, like in the video, and a 3 part kit with two cans of PN261, and one can of PN208. The 3 part kit is supposed to be used when the engine has never been cleaned before. And also, he should have been using the Platinum tool, which he is not. He is using the old VIA tool, which is not as effective as the new platinum tool.
@dinokarakostas4246
@dinokarakostas4246 4 ай бұрын
how much does walnut blasting cost?
@TechnicianRed
@TechnicianRed 2 ай бұрын
On average about a half hour labor per cylinder plus intake R&R time.
@pfoxhound
@pfoxhound 5 ай бұрын
Didn't search enough.
@pfoxhound
@pfoxhound 5 ай бұрын
What state is your shop in?
@TechnicianRed
@TechnicianRed 5 ай бұрын
TX
@pfoxhound
@pfoxhound 5 ай бұрын
@@TechnicianRed thank you, but it's too far to drive. I wanted to get walnut blasting.
@TechnicianRed
@TechnicianRed 5 ай бұрын
@@pfoxhound lots of places do it now.
@pfoxhound
@pfoxhound 5 ай бұрын
@@TechnicianRed maybe, but I trust to my eyes, also I have access to some shops and I see the way regular cars being repaired. That's the reason why I do some repairs myself, or I stand behind the back, or only few guys that I trust...
@brucedale4465
@brucedale4465 5 ай бұрын
Why didn’t you clean the throttle plate first
@TechnicianRed
@TechnicianRed 5 ай бұрын
Because there was no reason to clean the throttle plate. The customer had just cleaned it less than 100 miles ago. Yes, the plate surface is stained but that doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is any dirt build-up on the edge of the blade and internal surface of the throttle body housing. This build-up of dirt is the only thing that would restrict airflow and there is no such build-up on this throttle body.
@theaustralianconundrum
@theaustralianconundrum 5 ай бұрын
In my gasolene GDI cars I run Avgas 100LL from the local airport. This fuel is simply amazing with a rich mixture octane rating exceeding 130. My new Mazda CX 30 G25 Skyactiv G engine is silky smooth on this fuel. I have friends who run Australia's cheapest and crappiest 91 (10E) and their exact same engines sound like tractors and get terrible fuel economy. Go figure!
@TechnicianRed
@TechnicianRed 5 ай бұрын
Sounds expensive! Us peasants have to settle with a little distributor adjustment in the warmer months 😆
@theaustralianconundrum
@theaustralianconundrum 5 ай бұрын
It is currently US$8.00 per gallon. Or US$108.00 per tank. Our regular 98RON (zero ethanol) premium is US$5.40 per gallon or US$73.00 per tank.@@TechnicianRed
@kevinclark8782
@kevinclark8782 5 ай бұрын
@@TechnicianRed Also not catalytic converter friendly.
@cesarpenailillo6627
@cesarpenailillo6627 2 ай бұрын
How much is to have your car walnut blasted on average?
@TechnicianRed
@TechnicianRed 2 ай бұрын
Usually intake r&r time plus 0.5hr labor per cylinder. Most shops that do this are going to be in the $150-$200/hr range. Also a little extra for the walnut and Intake gaskets if needed.
@cesarpenailillo6627
@cesarpenailillo6627 16 сағат бұрын
@@TechnicianRed Thank you very much for the answer you provided. Im going to look for a shop and get it done here, in the LA, California Area. Good day
@stinkycheese804
@stinkycheese804 5 ай бұрын
Nobody should want the BG cleaner to work. You do not want all that carbon buildup flushed through the engine all at once. I wouldn't even bother periodically using it later, after the walnut blasting, just wait a lot longer and walnut blast again.
@SN-cb9xj
@SN-cb9xj 2 ай бұрын
Cheaper just to walnut blast it every 100K miles.
@nibotkram7743
@nibotkram7743 2 ай бұрын
Don't buy a GDI engine.
@mrvang8077
@mrvang8077 12 күн бұрын
What these product claims are bogus. It's a waste of money and time for very little to nothing result. Just better off investing into a walnut blaster.
@ClearWater7.62
@ClearWater7.62 2 ай бұрын
I think the engine has to be hot
@TechnicianRed
@TechnicianRed Ай бұрын
It was at full operating temperature during the cleaning procedure.
@Jornm.aalerud
@Jornm.aalerud Ай бұрын
Unfortunatly you are not completing the service. You are supposed to use two bottles on cars that has neven been cleaned before. Therefor you are only doing half the service. You are also using the old VIA tool, and not the new and improved Platinum tool, which is a lot more efficient. New video please!
@TechnicianRed
@TechnicianRed Ай бұрын
You sure about that? BG used to have smaller GDI intake cleaning cans that required 2 cans to fill up the VIA tool. Now they sell it in a large bottle and a single bottle will fill up the VIA tool. Our BG rep didn't mention anything about using two of these newer large bottles for one cleaning service.
@iyona14granturismogt6gtspo7
@iyona14granturismogt6gtspo7 Ай бұрын
Um....25miles....try 250 for a legit experiment. Other channels put much more effort into test you should look some up.
@TechnicianRed
@TechnicianRed Ай бұрын
It's obvious you didn't watch the whole video or you didn't pay attention. I checked the valves at TWO different intervals. The first check was at about 25 miles the next check was at 490 miles.
@joeburtnick1369
@joeburtnick1369 23 күн бұрын
Wonder if you have to drive it like you stole it instead of driving like a granny to clean those valves
@TechnicianRed
@TechnicianRed 23 күн бұрын
Oh I definitely drive it like I stole it 🏁
@joeburtnick1369
@joeburtnick1369 22 күн бұрын
But the customers may not
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