Does Twitter Matter?

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@toontrooper4103 Жыл бұрын

I left Twitter despite being a politically active "leftist". It's just too easy to get mad over every little thing and that becomes draining fast. Plus half the people I saw making hot takes did practically nothing in the real world with their politics so it's like why do you even bother? Do something.

@SteeleGolem Жыл бұрын

Hot takes on Twitter satiate the author and polarize the reader. I feel similarly about Ted talks where they scratch an itch that would otherwise inspire 'real' change.

@DrShak2009 Жыл бұрын

Between doomscrolling, dog piles and the millions and millions of hot takes, I also got the hell off of Twitter (and all social Media, unless youtube/twitch count). The random bits of good weren't enough for me to outweigh all that negative shit.

@TheCirclekeeper Жыл бұрын

Right people be saying some dumb shit on there I heard. Vaush reacted to comment asking did Ann Frank have white privilege. I was like bruh why are you entertaining this bullshit it's so stupid.

@BeastiezCyZ Жыл бұрын

I don't want to "do something" with my politcs. I just want to die lol. It's too hard to go out in real world and fight in for the shit you want to see. I just literally rather die atp. This mindset I'm having is very negative and self-defeating, but Idk what to do personally atp besides be on the internet.

@DrShak2009 Жыл бұрын

@@BeastiezCyZ I'm not too far off from where you're at, so you're not alone there. Just remember, it's not your job to fix the world. If you can help out in small ways, great. If not, don't sweat it. I hope you can find someone to talk to though. 'cause those feelings are the worst, and I don't wish them on anyone. Best of luck out there.

@g_eddie Жыл бұрын

Twitter might possibly be the worst place to have meaningful dialogue about anything. The contingencies are all out of whack. The nuance and patience required to discuss sensitive and important issues are punished while sensationalism, emotional, reactionary, and mean-spirited arguments are rewarded and reinforced with re-tweets, likes, and whatever the heck clout is.

@TheMysteryDriver Жыл бұрын

And it shows tweets out of order in convos so half my replies are "I didn't reply to the original tweet, I'm replying to the one above mine when you click on it" and I never hear from them again

@madixxoo Жыл бұрын

Very true. Twitter (and Tiktok as well) is where nuance goes to die.

@beefy74 Жыл бұрын

sort of off topic, but i’m in the sims community and most of the people in the community use twitter. it’s pretty obvious. 99% of the community bash the game, bash EA, bash the game devs if there’s an update/pack and there are issues that come with it. recently, there was a huge patch involving new gameplay and all i hear about it is negativity. it’s exhausting, especially as someone who genuinely enjoys the game. there are definitely things to criticize about EA, but any critique given on twitter just adds to the unproductive mob. edit: i want to add that the devs are currently working on fixes, but people are still mad.

@NoiseDay Жыл бұрын

@@beefy74 I choose to believe that all those people complaining are either parroting someone else or the biggest fans of the game. I'll bet the people who complain the most also buy every single pack, play it for hours, and have a Sims Twitch or KZfaq channel or follow a bunch of them. Complaining comes more naturally to a lot of people than complimenting. Plus it's easy to forget how amazing it is that a game like the Sims exists if you're desensitized to it's existence. "Taken for granted" and all that. I reference the Animal Crossing community when entitlement comes up.

@NoiseDay Жыл бұрын

To play devil's advocate though, it's also the people in the trenches (so to speak) who have the best perspective on how things could be done better. A game like the Sims could be considered inconsequential, but in a more tangible context, teachers' or employees' opinions should always have more sway than administrators and CEOs.

@TrueUnderDawgGaming Жыл бұрын

When he said "Twitter is not a real place" he meant it is literally not a location on Earth. Which is true. Nobody on Twitter can do any real damage to him, as opposed to an actual city that hates him which would actually pose a threat to him. If anything, his continued success proves his statement valid. Twitter can hate or love him all they want, and it won't matter for him. Dave was famous before Twitter, and could likely be famous once Twitter is gone.

@shutupsprinkles Жыл бұрын

I am friends with folks whose lives and livelihoods have been significantly affected by twitter, both good and bad. I think any website that has real consequences for people should be considered a “real” place.

@distantsalutations9120 Жыл бұрын

It all just depends on what you define as real, really

@g_eddie Жыл бұрын

Whether it is real or not, I think T1J is right in saying that twitter matters. Regardless of how toxic it can be, people who consume engage in that reality and it impacts their thinking and way of being in the world to some degree.

@aylbdrmadison1051 Жыл бұрын

Crybaby dave is just reaching hard with that one. lols Dude used to be courageous and unafraid to go against the conservative status quo.

@Sablus Жыл бұрын

@@aylbdrmadison1051 sadly like most old comics it seems punching down is easy for them to make more money. I kinda wonder what Carlin would think of it since he avoided that style of comedy even in his dying years.

@wesleywyndam-pryce5305 Жыл бұрын

its not though, Twitters algorithm promotes the "controversial" tweets, which makes it intentionally and wildly misleading when you start believing twitters is an accurate representation of the public. also, and I will die on this hill, no one needs Twitter. in fact everyone should just delete it anyway.

@JessieGender1 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video and thank you for the shout out ❤️

@MrMan-dd4hi Жыл бұрын

My outlook on Twitter, as someone who’s stopped using it since early 2021, is that it erases and shortens the contexts of information. I can’t get into this without having an epistemological study, but the naïveté behind the praise of social media doesn’t see how information is regulated and presented. It can become very damaging how something is framed on the website.

@LouAlvis Жыл бұрын

I Recommend, a documentary, "The Social Dilemma" basic ideas to advanced detail, accessible,, yet not dumb. helps bring some folks up to speed

@ThatWeirdo04 Жыл бұрын

Twitter is a place where nuance goes to die

@wesleywyndam-pryce5305 Жыл бұрын

@@LouAlvis I swear I remember that movie being not just criticized but soundly debunked. might be something with a similar name though

@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 Жыл бұрын

If you write that epistemology work, 11/10 would read.

@mmps18 Жыл бұрын

Twitter used to be fun until the company seemingly started making the algorithm prioritize polarizing and angry statements. I stopped using it after the "culture" of Twitter got so mean and even saying something innocuous like "I love gummy worms I could eat them all day" got me a ton of hate 😭

@wesleywyndam-pryce5305 Жыл бұрын

so like since the very day Twitter began and they decided they wouldn't take nazi propaganda down because "free speach" Twitter was never anything but what you're describing.

@TakBonez Жыл бұрын

And it was on purpose too. Nothing drives engagement like controversy, that in turn is profit. That's what it's all about money.

@AZaqZaqProduction Жыл бұрын

Really enjoying the middle school picture day background you're using now

@logan317b Жыл бұрын

Twitter can mess with your mind and your way of thinking. When almost everyone is only expressing their "opinions" for the attention and arguments go nowhere because people only do them for fun it's very hard to get real information and opinions. Real and important information exists there but it can also be a very toxic place sometimes and I fear it is only getting worse.

@cageybee1154 Жыл бұрын

I never got into Twitter. It seemed mostly aggravating to people who used it. I don't invest too much thought or emotion into it. That being said, it does seem like a place to me, and what is posted on that platform undeniably effects the world around me. It seems that it effects Chapelle too.

@asuka_the_void_witch Жыл бұрын

it's honestly like saying talking on the phone isnt real.

@esotericpince Жыл бұрын

you're completely correct on that first line, twitter's algorithm is engineered to piss off as many people as it can without passing the line that makes someone uninstall it. you're more likely to engage with something (comment, retweet, send it to a friend) if it pisses you off. cdn.cms-twdigitalassets.com/content/dam/blog-twitter/official/en_us/company/2021/rml/Algorithmic-Amplification-of-Politics-on-Twitter.pdf

@cageybee1154 Жыл бұрын

@Rachel Forshee Twitter is a metaphorical place that effects my world, though I hold no affectation towards it.

@some-one-else Жыл бұрын

@Rachel Forshee It is in no way comparable to a delusion. Everything on Twitter is actually there, the fact that it wouldn't exist if it were shutdown in no way changes that. Yes, being online changes the way people act, that doesn't make it not real, it means that people are really willing to act like that, just only under specific circumstances. That's one of the most concerning parts of social media, the fact that the people who would never act like this offline are willing to do awful shit on social media.

@cassondralynch6342 Жыл бұрын

Twitter is the only social media I've ever had besides Myspace like everyone else back in the day. I love it personally and while stuff can get heated you find your community and for me it was mostly very positive. I was kicked off recently :( lol

@gilgamesh310 Жыл бұрын

Road rage is the closest real life ever gets to twitter, lol. Generally I agree, though.

@Emilio1985 Жыл бұрын

Personally, I find the distinction between online and offline is more helpful for my conceptualization of these different spaces than the distinction between online and IRL. It's all real. I'm not imagining anything online, perceiving or engaging with it is a real experience. It's not the perfect distinction, digital versus analog may be slightly more accurate, but that sounds more jargony.

@EF-wy3di Жыл бұрын

You may not be imagining the experience but the experience you are having is just a collection of peoples imaginations (opinions and theories). It's also a place detached from the human experience because everyone is anonymous and don't have to actually face the people they talk to. So our empathy mechanism don't activate because we don't see anyone else as "real" people unless they say something that humanizes them in our minds. Think about it. If you were walking down the street and saw 10 people surrounding someone and shouting obscenities at them, would you join them? Depending on what that person said, you may that they deserve it or not but would you make yourself verbal harasser #11 or would you continue on about your day? On Twitter literally thousands of people would gang up on a single person and do anything from post obscenities to send death threats. That is not a human experience. That is a uniquely online experience. Irl you can't escape a mob of people but on Twitter you can just turn your phone off and that mob ceases to exist.

@heddalettuce6009 Жыл бұрын

we overvalue twitter. every time i watch news, some tweet pops up for discussion. free speech, twitter and cancel culture are constant pain points for so many public figures. Even YT drama pulls from twitter! i’m not on twitter so it’s incredibly tedious that i am being made to care about that godforsaken app. it has an outsized impact on online political discussion. all while being composed of mostly worthless takes. the meme part of twitter is great - but the part of twitter run by educated “elite thinkers” or edgy radical teens is insufferable. i wish people treated it like tumblr - mildly cringe.

@wesleywyndam-pryce5305 Жыл бұрын

what i can't fucking stand is having argument and having a strawman throw at me and then asking where it came from EVERY TIME "oh I saw it twitter" like some dipshit on Twitter is representative of a political group or any group. and don't even get me started on how people just assume these accounts are real people when the amount of reactionaries pretending to be dumb leftists for propaganda is extremely well known and documented.

@essbee1641 Жыл бұрын

Yes! I hate when they post a random collection of tweets on news websites or even on television and try to pass that off as journalism.

@earnthis1 Жыл бұрын

The news is super lazy, so they use twitter for free time filler. Capitalism capitalism capitalism is what you are actually complaining about

@scorpiusjones5436 Жыл бұрын

If it was irrelevant, ppl wouldn't have to make the argument that "its irrelevant", it just would be.

@cassondralynch6342 Жыл бұрын

Touche

@saffodils Жыл бұрын

i love the comparison of twitter to a bar! i've definitely found it's best if you don't overdo it. i'm mostly a tumblr user, but i've found i like to use twitter as a supplement to see what the big news is and what the celebrities are doing. my tumblr dashboard is curated such that it's mostly humor, fandom, and social science discussions, with minimal Discourse™ and more of a collaborative attitude. it's calming, but bc i have algorithmic recommendations off, it tends to be more insular. so twitter lets me see what a broader range of people are thinking and feeling and doing. but it could never be my primary social media-it always leaves me feeling angry!

@YTwoKay Жыл бұрын

I think your nuance on the subject of Twitter is refreshing. I think that corporate and political bots and algorithms are a huge problem. You're right it's actually kind of privileged of celebrities to be one of the lucky few allowed to speak directly to an audience of millions of people on a whim because they are givin a platform that large and when common folks uses their relative obscurity as a shield to criticize you, all you have to do is delete Twitter and say it's not real.

@alacorn75 Жыл бұрын

So...if Chappelle says that Twitter isn't "a real place", doesn't it follow that the cancel culture on Twitter isn't real either? Why is he so upset then?

@asuka_the_void_witch Жыл бұрын

he is a baby

@marvingonzalez8586 Жыл бұрын

@@asuka_the_void_witch like you

@marvingonzalez8586 Жыл бұрын

Because he can

@Chymistry Жыл бұрын

because it's a joke

@PORT.design Жыл бұрын

I never got into Twitter because it is just a wall of text so it is difficult for my eye to quickly spot what I feel like looking at it. With apps like Instagram that are visually based I find it much easier to quickly scroll and spot what I feel like spending time looking at.

@Chymistry Жыл бұрын

I really hate that niche opinions or just false stuff plagues twitter and gets a ton of reposts just because it's controversional not because it's a good topic. I'd imagine a flat earth tweet getting a ton of engagement

@Euthyphro Жыл бұрын

That’s odd, I didn’t know something a public was based on how many people are currently using it. It’s like saying public parks aren’t the public square. Most of the population doesn’t even use them!

@ataraxia7439 Жыл бұрын

I think my main problem with “twitter is real life” or “online bullying doesn’t matter just turn off the computer” isn’t that it’s bad advice to stop or reduce time spent online or learn to separate if from your offline life, it’s that it’s often said in the context of trying to diminish and hand-wave people being shitty (often but not always overly so to someone from a marginalized group) in a way that deserves to be called out. Like it really sucks if you just want to post some art online or follow your friends and you get swamped with people telling you to hi kill your self or if a girl is just trying to post a photo of herself and gets a bunch of weirdly sexual comments from strangers. It’s not wrong to call people out for being like that nor is it wrong to want better from online spaces. It also ignores that even if twitter and other sites like it aren’t “real life” they still serve as breeding grounds for ideas and movements that bleed over into the real. No matter where you stand politically there’s some group who’s ideas you don’t like that been mobilized and grown because of the internet and social media, we’re sticking our heads in the sand if we just choose to act like that has no effect on people spending time in-line or no. Also it’s just really sucks if places that everyone uses for something are disproportionately hostile to certain groups. Like trans teens want to make memes and follow people and post stuff online just as much as anyone else but they also tend to have to deal with way more strangers being upset with them for no reason or telling them they shouldn’t exist. If the only thing you can add to a discussion about that is “well they just shouldn’t be on the site then” it becomes hard to believe you aren’t someone who just values people being uncritical of others behavior than someone who really values mental health and resilience over all else but that could just be me idk

@ataraxia7439 Жыл бұрын

* isn’t real life

@ahuman5772 Жыл бұрын

Tbh, as an autistic trans person, twitter isn't real and you should delete your account. I've had other trans people go off at me in very hostile ways on twitter even though we basically agree, so I deleted my twitter after that. I used to get very stressed about the discourse there and on other social media, but after logging off, reading some books, crocheting and gardening I can now just laugh at those takes and see that they are ridiculous. Being on twitter and other social media warps people's view of reality. Of course I agree that people shouldn't be shitty about someone's art or something like that. However, deleting my Tumblr account after being dogpiled by terfs was a good decision, and I think that advice should be offered more often! I thought my takes were contributing something to the leftist movement, but now that I've logged off, tbh I can see that they weren't. Being a happy trans person does more to trans rights imo than me trying to post hot takes on tumblr ever did! I agree with the general idea of what you said but just wanted to say logging off is definitely something I'd recommend lol

@ataraxia7439 Жыл бұрын

@@ahuman5772 No, you're totally right. I wouldn't ever want to say that just leaving an online place isn't an option (it's a really good idea for a lot of people !) but I think we can't treat "Some people just have to not be a part of one of the biggest places where people discuss and share ideas lest they want to face constant abuse" as the end of the conversation. It feels like people saying twitter isn't real or you should just log off sometimes try to handwave any conversations about how can we actually make online spaces that are good for people. Totally agree with you thoug glad you feel better and sorry that all happened to you.

@ltlbuddha Жыл бұрын

I we seperate out online as "not real" because we behave differently there, then what part of meatspace is real since we act differently with family than with friends and yet again different with coworkers...

@Mysterytour7 Жыл бұрын

“I don’t care, I don’t care” the millionaire comedian said during a particularly long routine about the thing, his lip quivering ever do slightly.

@cassondralynch6342 Жыл бұрын

I can't handle people coming together to acknowledge I'm a terf and a nimby

@marvingonzalez8586 Жыл бұрын

@@cassondralynch6342 good for him

@cassondralynch6342 Жыл бұрын

@@marvingonzalez8586 You like elitist bigots? Cool story, Marvin. Ffs

@marvingonzalez8586 Жыл бұрын

@@cassondralynch6342 🤓🤓

@cassondralynch6342 Жыл бұрын

@@marvingonzalez8586 Lmao people are so f'n clueless it's incredible. Imagine defending someone who is filthy rich that goes to town hall when affordable housing becomes an option in his neighborhood in a country with a homeless epidemic, massive poverty and wealth inequality. Maybe you're also a transphobe but I'd think being an elitist pos would be enough for everyone to not simp for this creeper. Pathetic.

@elustran Жыл бұрын

You're such an inherently chill dude, I feel like if you sat down to have a beer with Chapelle he might listen to you.

@cassondralynch6342 Жыл бұрын

F Chapelle tbh. That ship sailed for me and now he's just an annoying boomer.

@MrEndstage Жыл бұрын

Controversial take but while I don't really follow Dave Chappelle or pay attention to him too much I feel like he doesn't really believe most of what he says. Like his whole identity is being edgy and cause a fuss it doesn't really work anymore since before it was personal about him and being black in America. But now everyone is up to date with it so he doesn't feel different unique in present day like others. So he's applying to other groups but isn't as aware what going on because everything hasn't been made clear.

@bdo333 Жыл бұрын

In my experience twitter is just one big hate machine and people on there try too hard to be funny. Crazy how people get on there to exclusively hate on things and it all becomes very draining

@persuasivebarrier2419 Жыл бұрын

KZfaq ain't far behind. I haven't used it much until recently, but years ago, whewww. But I agree, twitter can be very draining. I stopped using after hearing Musk was going to buy. Say what you will about (past) Jack, at least he wasn't that big of an attention whore. I know he's backed or backing out now, not sure if I'll return.

@TheBroganBurke Жыл бұрын

I've become extremely social media adverse. I used to be on Twitter but no actual person I knew really used it much and I never tried to get any following, so it was just an anger scroll. I realized I was just addicted to the scroll. I still catch myself doing it with KZfaq and thankfully I've always thought reddit was gross. now in my life I'd like to try and be an illustrator, but that requires me to, like, post and connect with online communities and find out what a "subreddit" is. the thought of that feels like asking me to go for a swim when I have rabies.

@kuchuyobenai9461 Жыл бұрын

Subreddits are actually pretty useful though, especially for hobbies like art or finding the right shoes to buy for volleyball, etc. People actually post useful stuff and it’s not cringey, especially if its some niche community, unless that niche community is itself cringe, for example r/hen&|memes or something.

@TheBroganBurke Жыл бұрын

@@kuchuyobenai9461 I really should try harder. I'll use a subreddit to answer a quick google but that's usually the extent. I struggle to find creative community irl, I'm probably robbing myself by not even trying online

@idk-zj4cz Жыл бұрын

I deleted Twitter late last year after having used it for years and haven't looked back. It felt like a massive echo chamber with no variation in opinions.

@CaptainAndy Жыл бұрын

There’s a danger in calling the offline world “real life” in that it makes people think of the online world as somehow fictional and therefore it doesn’t matter what they do online.

@earnthis1 Жыл бұрын

So true! This creates a cognitive dissonance.

@ravedeath7690 Жыл бұрын

i dont think they're saying the online world doesn't matter but that you should prioritize your mental wellbeing and real life priorities/relationships over online ones. otherwise you'll end up like another twitter user who spends their days posting black squares as a form of activism.

@CaptainAndy Жыл бұрын

@@ravedeath7690 That's quite the slippery slope fallacy.

@ravedeath7690 Жыл бұрын

@@CaptainAndy in what way? your own wellbeing should always come first imo, absolutely no harm in prioritizing that over petty twitter arguments

@kasino7132 Жыл бұрын

Online world can be as fake or as real as YOU want it to be.. most of the people on Twitter talking shit would NOT talk like that same hatred and vitriol directly to people in the physical… it’s real consequences that can occur.. if you deleted Twitter does that stop you from living your life? Brother andy go outside man the shit ain’t that serious

@pabloquijadasalazar7507 Жыл бұрын

Twitter is as real a place as y’all make it be. 🤷🏾

@maleficentmistressofallevi3252 Жыл бұрын

Woo! Thanks for the upload!

@midnightvision Жыл бұрын

I remember thinking the idea of Twitter sounded stupid when it first came out, so I never got into it. (I saw Twitter being promoted as a place to give daily life updates. I have a feeling the site was very different in the early days.) I only go on every once in a while to check an account that usually has funny updates on their cats. I refuse to make an account myself. And I only go on Facebook a handful of times a year. The one social media site I use, if it can really be called that, is Tumblr. There’s no algorithm, no influencers, and majority of the users are anonymous. It reminds me a bit of how the Internet used to be when I was a teenager.

@dildonius Жыл бұрын

Ok.

@nikevisor54 Жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed your perspective on this one. Was really cool to hear you acknowledge your own perspective and status on Twitter, minor though it may seem, as well as your history with the platform. You never fail to present a reasoned, well-articulated perspective on these kinds of things and that's what keep me coming back to your content. All the best and looking forward to your next video :)

@CarolineIronwill Жыл бұрын

Shout out to Jessie Gender! Because she's awesome.

@Lexince Жыл бұрын

Awesome video! A lot of great points are being brought up, good job T1J!

@nickapvikes Жыл бұрын

The essay ‘Being Numerous’ (in the book with the same title) by Natasha Lennard goes into the spectrum of possibilities that come with each new technology like social media. She focuses more on the “surveillance capitalism” side of things, but she writes, “we must ask of a technological possibility what potential accidents it contains, and whether they are tolerable.”

@Shady_Fungus Жыл бұрын

Was never a fan of Twitter. Never got an account either. Myspace, Facebook, etc,.. never got an account. The online posting I do is this and video games. How some people get off on controversy and ruining people’s lives is beyond me.

@KarlMarcus8468 Жыл бұрын

I'm a 31 year old and I've been pretty online since I was a kid trying to get that ASL on AOL instant message and I use a pretty decent amount of socials but I have basically never felt the want to use or engage with twitter. It never grabbed me the way it has others and I'm pretty thankful for that. So many people who talks about twitter more then just in passing talk about how it just sucks, and fucks up your mental health, and I deff don't need any more of that thank you very much

@DrAnarchy69 Жыл бұрын

Twitter is horrible. I'm very happy I'm not on it anymore. It's one of the worst websites on the Internet, up there with 8Chan. No that's not an exaggeration, it's that reprehensible a website.

@OhWellWhatTheHell1 Жыл бұрын

I really wonder how much of that is down to who you're following. I believe what you're saying about your experience with twitter, but those experiences are kind of foreign to me as someone who lurks on there a couple times a week. Like to me twitter is mostly a meme site or a place where people riff on current events, share art, talk about media and pop culture.

@Thaelyn1312 Жыл бұрын

Honestly, I'm starting to feel this. Even people in social justice circles on Twitter engage in all these takes, & have to have opinions on other people in social justice. So Puritan.

@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 Жыл бұрын

The buttery sunshine shirt set + matched the refreshing optimism & reminded me how much I love buttery sunny yellow. That sounds trivial but thanks, man. Lots i needed to be reminded of, synthesis, & new2me ideas.

@Junosensei Жыл бұрын

I decided when I joined Twitter to use it to follow Japanese artists I liked. And erotica. _Lots_ of erotica art. I can't open Twitter at work. But I _can_ open Twitter without feeling doom or gloom! And that's all that matters to me. Twitter is my safe space~

@ohitsclemenTIME Жыл бұрын

I'm a 28 year old leftist. I've never used Twitter and never intend to. Same with tiktok. I'm 2 seconds from abandoning reddit and other social media's as well. It overall just makes me so depressed and I feel like it doesn't represent real life. I feel like everyone is just so miserable and mean for no reason. And at this point in my life, I'm exhausted and trying to use the little energy I have to think about things more positively. Mostly because if I don't, I will drown in my depression.

@ahuman5772 Жыл бұрын

I have mostly quit social media and I definitely recommend it! After spending some time offline you realise that a lot of things you worry about don't matter that much

@SirThomasDrake Жыл бұрын

Abandoning leftism will help depression.

@persuasivebarrier2419 Жыл бұрын

In that respect, the lives of celebrities are seemingly unreal. Dave has a safe space on the stage to do his comedy bit and must maintain his specific composure for delivery, it's an act. People go and watch comedy shows for their own reasons, just as they use twitter or other social media. I don't think it makes it any less "real" if the goal is to feel something.

@mickiemallorie Жыл бұрын

You can't have real connection with others where anonymity exists.

@Paulin14ani Жыл бұрын

yeah i unfollowed a couple of friends that only posted negative tweets, some of them directed at me, and frankly that was the smart move. i dont trust them anymore, but my mental health is much better now

@Cdr2002 Жыл бұрын

Extremely well articulated (I hope that didn’t come across in a “for a black man” way) a very good starting place for nuanced discourse. Great vid

@episdosas9949 Жыл бұрын

its still weird to start a relationship online. thats why people have so many problems on tinder. and dont have good social skills. walk up and talk to a stranger. humanity is the people that are walked by on the streets without even saying hello.

@JadeDragonMeli Жыл бұрын

Twitter is filled with people that want to dunk on one another, even if the two people agree on 98% of the issues, they'll hyper focus on the 2% and want to declare the other isn't left enough for them. It's a cesspool and there are very few people on there that are interested in anything above getting the most likes and retweets. It's a video game and people want the high score.

@empatheticrambo4890 Жыл бұрын

Love a reaction to Chapelle... that guy just can’t admit he’s being ignorant

@DCNRS90YT Жыл бұрын

I now mostly use Twitter privately, mostly to post sketches and quick drawings, I stopped using my main Twitter to talk about heavy topics on my main, I also only follow JP artists on Twitter, mainly because it's pretty chill, and an extension that removes the unnecessary stuff on the site, I mostly chill out on there and post there and there.

@fizzle7421 Жыл бұрын

My dude winked when he was talkin bout leavin Twitter 💀 lmao that's tough.

@MarshallVeeMarshall Жыл бұрын

Great video as always! I think this also raises the question: are comedy specials real?? Obviously there was an audience irl for “the closer”, but most people who watch that show by far are doing it on Netflix. The people who pay money to see Dave live are probably going to eat up whatever he has to say (for many reasons), and it’s easy for a comedian to say “oh they were just jokes” which is technically true, but also one can’t fully detach themself from something they put out there, as you said with social media, you can say, “that’s just twitter” but nothing really occurs in a vacuum.

@phmfthacim Жыл бұрын

Oxytocin meditates both positive and negative valence experiences

@TheMysteryDriver Жыл бұрын

Alright, getting another year of curiosity Stream and Nebula on the cheap. I love both of those apps

@seankale5116 Жыл бұрын

I follow you on twitter and obviously here too, i have a ton of respect for the content you put out. But a phrase i like using is twitter is where thoughts and opinions go to die.

@mossyantler2 Жыл бұрын

Great video

@earnthis1 Жыл бұрын

When Chappelle says Twitter isn't real, he means only what truly effects him is real. He lives in his own bubble, but wants to define all of our reality from his view. Which is fine for comedy, but lots of people want to see comedy as truth.

@SolveForX Жыл бұрын

A “real place” in this regard is place where human beings can exist in physical space. If physical matter can’t occupy it, then it’s not a real place.

@SolveForX Жыл бұрын

@SomeoneOnlyWeKnow I was describing what Chappelle meant. The “space” between you reading a novel and that novel having an impact on you does exist in the physical world, but it’s not considered a “real place” because we can’t go there. Alternatively, we could also view Chappelle’s statement as being that people don’t present their authentic selves on Twitter. Twitter then wouldn’t be a “real place” where “real people” are engaging, but rather a space where people present a fictional version of themselves and argue in pursuit of dopamine boosts by way of self-righteousness.

@thexalon Жыл бұрын

When Twitter started, I shunned it on the grounds that it's very difficult to express anything important or interesting in 140 characters or less. Since then, even with the jump to 280 characters, my opinion hasn't changed: It was set up to get people to say "I like Ms Marvel" to each other, and isn't good with anything more sophisticated than that.

@CCuiu Жыл бұрын

It's the wrong question. Why does it matter and how does it matter. I was under the impression that we have generally accepted that people make something real and not the location/tool but apparently not. Twitter matters because people are on it and people matter.

@Acidfunkish Жыл бұрын

I don't do twitter, personally. The thing I dislike about Chappelle's attitude regarding the "hate" is that he always acts like the victim. He does this thing that I've seen a lot of "alt-right"ers do: Yell about how everyone else is trying to cancel you, and follow that up by nudging your followers to go "like" your content, watch your movie/special, buy your merch, whatever. That'll show "them." Alex Jones did that on his show CONSTANTLY. "THEY'RE TRYING TO SILENCE US. THEY'RE TRYING TO SHUT US DOWN! THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE OUR ADVERTISORS LEAVE! You can help out by buying my supplements / protein crap / whatever." He was doing that, guilting his audience into buying overpriced junk, while raking in tens of millions from his merch store, ALONE. So I really don't like it when I see that behaviour from others. It's icky. It's manipulative. And it works, unfortunately.

@seasonembrace3624 Жыл бұрын

Yeah been hearing negative stuff on this website

@Bizarro69 Жыл бұрын

People need to make three accounts on Twitter and just follow different interests and you'll see how powerful that algorithm is! To rarely see a random "hot take" in one account filled with world news or economics or nature photography, and on another account will be a cesspool of incendiary nonsense! It's really in our hands but it never feels that way when you're just out here like a mark for the algorithm.

@Thaelyn1312 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for making these points. I will echo what you said, I know it's been said again & again but if anyone is watching this video/reading these comments & thinks "But I need to be on there because of [insert pros here]", like...I really do understand. I thought I needed to be up to date on all the social justice controversy, know who was being called out & comment on it, etc. I am on a Twitter break atm, I do not know when I'll be back. This latest conversation happening on Twitter that has caused this break for me has affected my willingness to stream; it's not good. Clearly I need to find either a better way to interact with Twitter or just not be on there anymore.

@almazingsk8er Жыл бұрын

I left twitter in 2018, and currently the only explicit social media I use is LinkedIn because I am searching for a job currently. It's a hellhole. Before I got off of Twitter, I had an English professor give a prompt to, "Go to a place, any place, and observe the people around you and write what you see." and I thought it would be interesting to have my "place" be twitter. I was told I needed to re-write the paper because I needed to go somewhere real. This video puts a lot of the thoughts and questions I had at the time into words, and was pretty validating, so thanks. Thought I now hate twitter, it is still people interacting and those interactions have very real effects.

@racefrazier7998 Жыл бұрын

80 20 Rule! 10:10 Damn it. It strikes again.

@juliantrueman6542 Жыл бұрын

The problem with comparing Twitter to something like a bar is that a bar doesn't have a market incentive to stratify their customers and encourage fights. Corporate controlled social media is essentially hostile territory to activism and leftism.

@HyphenatedHistoryUK Жыл бұрын

I’m with you on how good it is for networking, and it’s especially good for me as a Black UK person with a Black UK channel; it’s the only place where I’m guaranteed to find “my people” all in one place and has a decent sense of “community” when it comes to certain topics. However, Black UK Twitter is legit a jungle and has been struggling since the very beginning with violent misogynoir, colourism, fraud and general village gossip. Plus all the terrible UK + world news that I’d see regardless of which Twitter community I participate in. I need another platform to promote my stuff but again, it’s ideal for Black UK ppl in a way no other platform is. It’s hard!! Love this video

@guest_informant Жыл бұрын

Twitter was great for the first 5 or 6 years, maybe more. Now it's a cesspool. Been off it for 2 or 3 years and feel much better. IMO this is not unique to Twitter. All "social" media seems to have a critical mass. I saw this repeatedly going back to, for instance, Usenet groups. Beyond a certain size they became dominated by the type of interaction which characterizes Twitter.

@AlwaysAmTired Жыл бұрын

This is interesting to me. I know it's a real person behind the username. But I still feel a disconnect between a username with typed out words and a person in the physical world, or even a text from someone I know. I really just cannot get to the same level of emotional engagement through online interactions. In a way, it doesn't feel as "real" to me, especially anonymous interactions. 90s chatrooms taught me that people lie online, so I don't feel like I'm interacting with the "real" person, even if I know a lot of people are genuine. And honestly.. I feel it's been beneficial to me to have that disconnect. (I've never been a Twitter user)

@wen6519 Жыл бұрын

Still use it to share videos I like :D anonymity is nice because my co workers don't get to know what I'm watching (compared to LinkedIn)

@MainelyMandy Жыл бұрын

I don't have a smart thing to say about this video but still wanna give you some engagement. Here is a comment. Thank you for continuing the work you do!

@LimaBeanxx Жыл бұрын

I guess this isn't 100% related to your thoughts about Twitter, but in March I "radically" went from being active multiple times per day to not at all for a few weeks, and then very sparingly. This was originally done to keep myself away from sensationalist speculations about the war (I'm in Europe and fear of the war is a huge psychological trigger for me - as in, the original sense of the word trigger - so I'd rather look at the REAL, neutral news to inform myself on it rather than see everyone's opinions and predictions). Irrelevant of the war, leaving Twitter also had the side effect that I was on average like 10 times less upset/outraged by social media as a whole. It's way too easy to see someone's dumb hot take (not to be confused with your own good hot takes lol) and get worked up over it when there's a good likelihoods they're just looking for free, easy engagement. I recommend leaving Twitter alone for a while, to anyone who's super active on it. Your blood pressure probably thanks you. (Edit: This is Lily, from Germany. From Twitter.)

@yvette4948 Жыл бұрын

This is me with Instagram. I deleted the app from my phone at the beginning of the pandemic and omg. Best decision ever. I re-installed it last year when I started to travel again but now I only use it to post and then I log off. Also, having a timer on Instagram helps a lot.

@Meladjusted Жыл бұрын

The sad thing about Instagram is that it started out way back when as a genuine place to try your hand at photography. Most people would try to take interesting photos of things; there were a lot of professional photographers on it to find and follow. I used to _love_ that version of it. I used to love honing my photography skills as well as artistic photo editing, and getting feedback from people about it. Then celebs like Kim K. joined up and the purpose of the app slowly, but surely, changed to being about selfies and getting attention for yourself and your looks and body. I keep my IG just because of all the old stuff I have on it and sometimes I'll upload my photography in the same way and just ignore the feed with all the ads and TikTok-like suggestions, but it's obviously just not the same.

@jonsays3762 Жыл бұрын

Twitter is a virtual cesspool.

@potts995 Жыл бұрын

I think of it as a matter of context. The environment people are in affects their behavior, but I don’t think that means their behavior isn’t real because the environment changed, it’s just another part of them being expressed.

@zooeyhill6006 Жыл бұрын

I spend wayyyy too much time Doom-Scrolling. I think your analysis of how/why people act the way they do online is accurate.

@nicholascharles9625 Жыл бұрын

You keep me from revolution

@courtney1496 Жыл бұрын

I left twitter four times in the last 6 years because they just love to dogpile the hell out of you over every little thing. And the humor isn't even worth it, it's like people try so hard to be funny in the grossest and meanest ways possible. Also it gets dull seeing the same hit tweets a million times a row. So I just can't say anything good about it anymore, it did used to be so good

@douglasphillips5870 Жыл бұрын

I'd heard horror stories about people ganging up on others on twitter, so I was never interested.

@tonygoold Жыл бұрын

I don't comment on social media at all. Just want you to know that there's a silent majority that find your commentary very influential. As a white cis dude, your commentary makes me think differently, and I always look forward to your videos. Please keep it up.

@GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm Жыл бұрын

Must this blessing shield you from the wrath of the Holy Ones & Zeros.

@camillevigneron5977 Жыл бұрын

« AFK = Away From Keyboard » has never replaced « IRL ». I guess people like the idea that it’s not real.

@concretebuilding Жыл бұрын

Regarding the whole hot takes deal, I sometimes find there's this idea that in order for what you say on Twitter, you have to have some threshold of anger. Almost like a rollercoaster's thing with how tall you have to be, it's like "You must be this angry to use twitter" and if you're not - or worse, you say that hey, maybe the world does have some hope, then your twitter card is revoked and you must stop posting.

@BennettYancey Жыл бұрын

I love and hate social media equally. Social media definitely feels like something that society was not ready for. It’s helped and ruined our society imo.

@yourbellboy Жыл бұрын

thoughtful & based 💯

@MintyAndee Жыл бұрын

For me, keeping a healthy distance from twitter seems to be working. If anything important happens, someone will report on it.

@luskira Жыл бұрын

"I run into assholes every now and then, but that's NOTHING compared to twitter" hahahahhahahahahhahah

@Cdr2002 Жыл бұрын

I made an account a few years back to crack jokes using a role playing Godzilla persona. It got old even with upcoming MonsterVerse movies that you’d think would’ve energized me to be active on it. Have avoided the site ever since due to what I hear secondhand. I’m glad it works for people like Melissa Navia (the actress who portrays Erica Ortegas in Star Trek Stranh New Worlds)

@astabaker9421 Жыл бұрын

Your background looks like a school picture

@meander112 Жыл бұрын

Engagement for the engagement god!

@SDBaeson Жыл бұрын

Something you addressed a little but not in reference to your near-immediate like was that it might have been a bot. It might not even have been a real person - which would explain the speed. That’s not to say your following is fake, and I know Twitter said they recently cleaned out a lot of bots, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they’re responsible for the validation to some extent.

@RemotHuman Жыл бұрын

What if you unfollow anyone who posts negativity

@ataraxia7439 Жыл бұрын

That works pretty well to an extent. Especially if you’re just trying to tailor your online feed to being what makes you happy and for recreation and aren’t seeking any higher aims then that. I really strongly recommend just unfollowing and blocking anything and anyone that makes you unhappy if you’re trying to take your mental health seriously. The problem you can run into though is that somethings that are important and worthy of attention are kind of negative. It’s okay if some people avoid negativity but if everyone did that all the time problems start to crop up. Like if you’re in an online community and someone accuses someone else of being abusive, you can try to just unfollow everyone involved and not get into it (like that’s really fine) but if everyone in the online community did that then you end up with a dynamic where it’s normalized for people to be almost shunned for bringing up abuse. Also love it or hate it, the internet is where a lot of people are getting their ideas and beliefs from and often that can involve topics that you can’t discuss with the full honesty and seriousness they deserve without coming off negative to some people. Like how should Americans online discuss school shootings or police violence while only trying to be positive. I’m not saying you should feel obligated to pay attention to those online discussions, but I think at least some people should be trying to have them and it worth trying to think about how that can best be done in a way that’s healthy and constructive. We should want online spaces where productive conversation can happen.

@RemotHuman Жыл бұрын

@@ataraxia7439 yeah. I kind of think about giving a crp as a free rider problem, a concept I learned about in economics class

@ataraxia7439 Жыл бұрын

@@RemotHuman I think so too

@enjakerator Жыл бұрын

You’re a D&D nerd!? This makes me irrationally happy.

@beckiadriaanse6312 Жыл бұрын

I don't have any social media platforms (Twitter, snap, insta, fb) I get way to invested in it and had to delete the apps. It's weird being a millennial mom without them and I get asked about them every time my kid makes a new friend at the park. It's actually made it harder to make irl friends

@alexavillion1396 Жыл бұрын

I was gonna make a long post about why I like your video, and yet disagree with the conclusion. But then I started thinking that I already don’t use social media, and don’t think there’s much value in the sorta kinda ego-Centric bloglike nature. So like why bother trying to write a college essay about the nuance of real and imagined communities. When I could just not do all that, since I don’t think there’s much value anyway. But I had already thought about it. And I figured I’ll still leave a comment anyway, for the algorithm. Anyway. Great video. I really appreciate your perspective.

@bdlotus3504 Жыл бұрын

I would love to see T1J and Dave Chappelle in an interview or podcast together.

@lucasgrasha9843 Жыл бұрын

I'd still say ppl roleplay a lot on social media. In the least, they present/perform their idealized self, even if they don't realize that. Otherwise I'm with you on everything you say.