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**IT DOSENT HAVE PESURE SENSITIVITY!** **DO NOT BUY FOR ART PURPOSES**

The lack of pressure sensitivity is a complete dealbreaker. I'm a digital artist and pressure sensitivity is critical in artwork.

*pressure sensitivity has left the chat*

I'm surprised how you forgot the most important feature.... pressure sensitivity Thats a total dealbreaker man... should've at least mentioned it in this long video

But there’s no pressure sensor on this while the Apple Pencil does. I have the crayon too, but it’s good only for taking notes, not for drawing

The Logitech Crayon is for people who mainly need to take notes, annotate PDF and don't want to pay the 🍎 Tax. Artists should stick with the Apple Pencil mainly for it's pressure sensitivity.

I am not an artist and I use my iPad for educational and entertainment purposes only. I’ve used the Logitech crayon for months before I got the first generation Apple Pencil, and I can say that the difference is very noticeable. The Apple Pencil feels better in the hand and, for me, it encourages better handwriting. The tap on the screen is quieter, as well. I really enjoy the pressure sensitivity when using different pen types on my note taking app, which I only learned were different from one another when using the Apple Pencil, the Logitech crayon makes them all write the same. The Logitech crayon is the safer choice but the Apple Pencil is the better choice. (I have the 2019 iPad Air and I use Goodnotes 5)

Please watch my follow up video here where I explain more details about the Crayon such as the missing pressure sensitivity: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/frqofryVqZe7p4E.html

I know the Logitech Crayon is a amazing stylus for the IPad Pro but I like drawing and the pressure/tilt sensitivity of the 1st and 2nd gen Apple Pencil is a great plus for me! But for general note taking the Logitech Crayon is good!

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I have the 8 gen I pad in Apple Pencil 1 gen and have no problem...🤦🏾‍♀️ I don't want that pencil you got plus it's nothing wrong 😑 with the Apple Pencil... I hear it all -I

my logitech crayon review. if you’re buying for art purposes, you’ll probably be fine. there’s no pressure sensitivity but i’ve learnt to get used to it and it’s honestly really nice to work with. if you’re heavily involved in art, the apple pencil may be your best bet, but the logitech is great too if you’re on a budget. if you’re buying for work purposes / other, then definitely go for this one. it works very well and is nicely fit in hands. it doesn’t have many shortcuts like the apple pencil as well. while the only real con would be no pressure sensitivity, and no shortcuts, it’s a really good buy to save a bunch of money.

The way the crayon 'connects' to a device is it's an active stylus meaning when you power it on that electricity goes to a coil nearly at the tip of the pencil Wich then connects to a tip and so on. Hope this helped to clear up some questions

one thing is if you are not an artist the crayon is amazing but if u are u want the apple pencil

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Apple pencil is HANDS DOWN the best.

I’m a student and the pressure sensitivity is very good. It makes the note taking and drawing experience so much better

They should’ve skipped the tilt instead of pressure sensitivity. Pressure sensitivity makes it more natural to write the tilt is only used for pencil shading or specific art uses.

I just got a apple pencil 1 and it's so smooth and slick. people say that it is slippery but to me it is not even when my hands were sweaty it still did not fall lol. 🤩 I love how it has persure sensitive

This review is unlike any other review of the Logitech Crayon on KZfaq. I will be getting the Logitech Crayon now because of this review. Thank you so much! Subscribed!

1:30 did he just say “Apple like” about that lame box? LMAO

in my opinion, not worth for the 2018 pro iPad. You already paid at least 750+ Euro, quickly reaching over 1000€ (256gb, or even 12,9") + more maybe for cases/covers, bags, etc. But those downsides just to save the 70 last bucks? - no pressure sensetivity - no double tap feature - NO Possibility to charge it when you're on the go. (while pencil 2 charges the best way possible + is quite securely stored when carrying it around) - on Lightning iPads you need an adapter. You could have a better experience buying the last Gen iPad Pro + pencil 1. gen, than iPad Pro 2018 + crayon I think, people who buy the iPad 2018 32gb, to keep the cost minimal (for school/study), this is fine. But still, pressure sensetivity + better charging on the go for 89€ instead 59€.. it's worth it. Unless you really don't care about pressure sensetivity for writing. Crayon should cost 39€, that would be a very decent prices for the downsides + make it very appealing for education and students. But your last argument is really something. If you have multiple iPads (one beeing iPad Pro 2018), spending 60€ for the crayon, instead buying the apple pencil 1 AND 2, is really valid :)

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I was almost sold. Darn! Doesn't has pressure sensitive

May as well just use a stylus if no pressure sensitivity. 🤷‍♀️

Misleading video. I almost considered this product until reading the comments and discovered that pressure sensitivity was not there.

Logitech doesn’t have all the features. Doesn’t do the pressure stuff.

For those without artistic needs this thing is great. I like 3D drawing which for my purposes does not require pressure sensitivity. I’ve had no problems and even discovered it comes in gray.

What if you want a pencil that feels like a circle pencil instead of a wide flat pencil... The crayon's shape is just wrong.

I got the crayon first also and I’m regretting it. It’s awkward in hand since it’s oblong.

I have to agree with a lot of the negative responses.. I bought the 11”pro not too long ago to replace a paper notes and sketch stuff for projects.. and swallowed the price for the Apple Pencil 2 thinking it was nothing special. And I wouldn’t give it up for anything, it’s superior to the 3rd party offerings. Not only because they simply can’t do most of what the apple one can You fail to show the fundamental reason why the apple pen 2 wouldn’t be better with current gen IPad Pro in functionally... the crayon isn’t as good because it doesn’t have most of the features that made the apple one so Great.. I have literally never had the “double tap” happen randomly.. The pressure sensitivity is completely missing on the crayon. Connection between the iPad Pro and apple pen 2 is near flawless with “passive” BT connection and the magnetic charging on the iPad. I have no problem saying that it’s an expensive investment.. but it’s been worth it in my experience.

This guy got paid by Logitech

But without the pressure sensitivity I don’t see how it could ever be as good as the Apple Pencil ?

No pressure sensitivity and the shape of it is uncomfortable (for me at least), 100% would go for an Apple Pencil if you’re a digital artist!

I had the Logitech and it is a great pen! If you are going to use it for just note taking and are on a budget, get the Logitech and if you aren’t on a budget get the Apple Pencil. But there really isn’t no difference if you just want it for note taking like for school.

I bought a few pencils for my iPad and so far the best when it came to drawing was Apple Pencil 1. The only thing I miss the buttons that I got on my Wacom pen. Apple Pencil 2 as gestures on it that replace the buttons, my 75 y/o dad bought 1 for his iPad Pro and he really loves it. Apple Pencil are not that bad, and as a good wight to it also.

Sadly my Apple Pencil 1 is not pairing any more it just says “pairing took to long make sure your Apple Pencil is in range”

Amazon currently sells the Logitech Crayon for $49.99 (USD). The Amazon web page indicates that pairing is not required.

Steve Jobs: Who wants a stylus? Apple: (° ͜ʖ °)

I’m an artist and I’ve learned to get by without pressure sensitivity, so the lack of such a feature really isn’t a complete deal breaker for me. Plus I have the ipad air, not the ipad pro. And buying a brand new ipad pro just for a new stylus seems like a waste to me. Maybe when my current ipad breaks I’ll consider the ipad pro for the apple pencil. But only then.

But I bought a Apple Pencil 2, and great for artist uses.

If using strictly for note taking or light drawing it is just fine. For the artist the Apple Pencil is is the only game in town.

Hi Tom. I'm one of the people who asked for the review of the crayon. Thanks very much.

As an artist, i can’t profess enough on how IMPORTANT pressure sensitivity is for digital art. Sure a pro artist or someone with enough experience of not using pressure sensitivity can make do…. However it just is not meant to artists. If ur buying a pencil just for notes taking. Sure, go ahead!!

I bought the Apple Pencil 2 today for notetaking in university and don’t need the pressure sensitivity, if I knew beforehand I would have bought the Logitech Crayon

No pressure sensitivity?

I have apple pencil and use it for drawing and never regret it at all, i bought the other brand and return it back after couple minutes of using it. If u want to use it for drawing, none of them can beat apple pencil. But for ‘note taking’ then doesn’t matter, you can use any of them.

I have an iPad 8th Gen and an Apple Pencil 1st Gen and there is a widget which is easily installed on the Home Screen which gives you the charging status for the iPad’s internal battery and also that of the Apple Pencil. This widget loses connection to the Apple Pencil however which I think means that when the Apple Pencil is not in use, it goes to sleep and therefore does not show on the widget. It easily wakes up when you touch it to the Home Screen. I can charge the pencil either via the adapter to the lightning cable or the bottom port on the iPad for its own charging. I prefer t use the cable as the connection to the iPad charging port isn’t strong enough to hold it against gravity. The pencil is sturdy but who knows how many times it drops that you can continue to use it. I do not have a Logitech Crayon so if the charging widget on the home page would work with it, have no idea. A nice thing I have found with the Apple Pencil and am sure this would also work with the Crayon, is to use it with a plastic ruler to mark up charts in Acrobat .pdf app. This creates a moveable highlight is you are keeping track of progress while following a chart. Though I am an artist, I do enjoy the touch sensitivity though I do not use it that often. But if something is only different by $30, and then it is a genuine Apple product, it isn’t that hard to want a pencil which will fit in the case you get to hold the iPad and give it a laptop-like keyboard with trackpad. This feature of keeping the pencil on the side of the case, made my decision over a bulkier pencil which is what the Logitech Crayon is.

I know that someone had mentioned that Logitech is an official partner, but the Crayon was developed in partnership with Apple. It is essentially a stripped down Apple Pencil that uses a proprietary connection system that was designed for the classroom. Pencils don’t need to be paired with individual devices, they just work with whichever iPad they’re closest too. They were introduced at the Apple Event at the school in Chicago, I believe and were originally only available for educational purchase. So the reason that it blows away all of the other third party styluses is because it is an Apple Pencil, it’s just missing some of the fancier features like pressure sensitivity.

I always forget to charge things so my Apple Pencil wirelessly charging via the side of the iPad is a lifesaver

Just found out this didn’t support pressure sensitivity. I needed an Apple iPad for school and a pencil and I wanted to try it out for my art works and I was disappointed. I just wanted to buy something cheaper while we were outside

I agree, if all you are looking for is a “dumb” pencil to scratch around in a notepad app you can get a dumb pencil as cheap as $10. But like all the “just as good as Apple but cheaper” type videos the things you lose with the cheaper option is either glazed over or completely omitted. There is cheap and there is good but not often do you find both in the same product.

Logitech is an official Apple partner so it's nice to see shared components like the tip and the structure under the tips, connection tech, etc...

It is unfortunate that you didn't mention pressure sensitivity until the comments, but for folks thinking about buying a pencil for note taking, the lower price makes the Logitech a good choice. The important issues for me are palm rejection and speed, and the Logitech apparently scores on both counts. Thanks very much for making this video; it was very helpful for me.

I was afraid of not being able to replace the tip on the Logitech Crayon! Thank you so much for this information!!!

I didnt know why the shading on the crayon rubbed me the wrong way until I came to the comments and saw that it didnt have pressure sensitivity. I was just trying to make sure I wasn’t being biased to the brand but as an artist I really do need to just invest in the apple pencil 😅

it looks like it doesn't have any pressure sensitivity nor tilt recognition.... Apple Pencil is better for notes or drawing.

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Magnetic charging and pressure sensitivity are super important to me, but another favorite feature of the Apple Pencil 2 is that you can double tap the pencil itself with your finger to quickly switch between Brush and Eraser in Procreate. Does the Crayon have that touch feature?

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Conversation is over once you said it charges by cable, I’d rather buy the Apple Pencil.

How can this “cryon “ be considered better than the Pencil if it doesn’t have pressure sensitivity?!

For information ... other alternatives WITH pressure-sensitivity AND bluetooth: "Adonit Pixel", "Adonit Pixel Pro", "Wacom Bamboo Fineline 3", and "Wacom Bamboo Sketch" ... in europe their price start at 50 euro. Unfortunately they don't seem to support angled-thicker-drawing, and unfortunately they also uses bluetooth.

The Crayon - except for its price which it is about $50 cheaper - has only disadvantages compared to apple pencil. Cable charging, awkward shape, NO PRESSURE SENSITIVITY, no double tap, no magnets, etc. Do not recommend a product that doesn't worth it.

It’s fun to watch the LED grid in the background during all the jump cuts.

I think that LED indicator is a little bit useless 'cause you can see the battery life in the widget...so I don't think it's a BIG advantage.

Also if you are buying 2018 iPad Pro it charges on usb c not lightning cable. So with this pen you would need to buy charger separately

Eppi-pencil will save your life....

Who all are listening “Apple Pencil” as “Epic Pencil”.

The only problem with this is that Apple could decide at any moment or update to ban or take away the ability to use any other pen devices but theirs in the software. It’s pretty lame but it’s a smart business move to basically FORCE animators and illustrators to buy a $129 (before tax) Apple Pencil

You’ll need pressure sensitivity. Maybe for note taking not so much, but for drawing you definitely need it. I switched off the double tap, so I agree that is one thing we can live without. I still think the Spen from Samsung is better. Shame Android is so clunky compared to iOS

It’s not the same. Price is higher but it’s not bad.

Does it work on Ipad Pro 12.9 and 10.5 2nd generation (2017)?

I know it's not compatible with iPad pro 10.5(A1701) 2017 release as per Logitech, but could you please just try it with iPad Pro 10.5- A1701 model ? And let me know, because even this model is on iOS 12 if it does I will buy one. Thanks !

Pressure sensitivity is a total deal breaker for me :/

What's the point of this video? You talks for 15 (!) minutes and you don't mention that this Logitech has not pressure sensitivity! You'd better delete this video.

I have it too in combo with the slim combo case very top for ipad 2018 6 gen.

If you have a 2018 or 2020 iPad Pro just go for the Pencil. The Crayon is good for all the other iPads.

It would be better if you would have shown the comparision in slow motion.Because you demo in a very fast hand writing,nothing can be said about actual latency..But overall logitech crayon seems impressive option.

Problem is a lot of us non-artists don’t need pressure sensitivity just accuracy to write with. The crayon is $90 here in canada and the Apple Pencil is $130 or refurbished for $105. So what the hell is the point of giving up pressure for $15 savings...woohoo. This crayon needs to cost $30. Is there any alternative that is accurate enough to write but not pressure sensitive?

Tom can you compare Liquid text VS marginNotes.

still bought the apple pencil 1 for my ipad mini.. i did not regret it coz it feels really nice..

Hello, Does the Apple Tips write okay when installed in the Crayon? The tips fit okay as you showed but I think you missed to show that if they get a good connection . Thanks.

The Crayon connects via a propietary radio connection, that’s why it doesn’t appear in the Bluetooth section

Just “z tip” got me “cryin”

Could you recommend something for the iPad Air 2. Thanks.

the "magic" it uses to connect without pairing is that it is simply a powered capacitive stylus which is also why it doesn't have pressure sensitivity or tilt angle detection. it uses "apple tech" as in the powered tip, not smart parts that detect all the advanced things and communicate those back to the ipad.

IMO the best case for the iPad Pro is Zugu. I have one and it is great 👍

Focus man, I thought this was a review on the crayon!

8:38 there's no technology behind it Tom, it's only the iPad Pro doesn't accept any other entries from any other pencil once there's an actively connected Apple Pencil to the device and once disconnected, you then can use another dozen of compatible pens like Logitech or any other brand in the same time which is what I'm currently doing, I have 2 compatible pencils non branded and one Apple Pencil, once I disconnect the Apple Pencil; the other two pencils works both in same time without any issues. Hopefully that Helps ;)

I’m so upset I finally got an iPad Pro 9.7 and I got the crayon and found out it doesn’t work for it

Logitech worked with Apple on this and it even was presented with cheaper iPad - as a perfect cheap version for students

The Crayon does not have pressure sensitivity

how it connects? like your finger...also your finger is not visible in the settings

Hey Tom i found a 20usd apple pencil-like on AliExpress with 4.8 rating with thousands of orders should i buy for ipad air 3? Apple pencil 1 is too expensive unnecessarily.

İ like Apple pencils, they are good for artists.

Great video, I had to laugh at the beginning though ‘cause I could sense right off the bat you hated that damn crayon stylus! 😂👏 “I have to tell you just much I despise this GOT D@MN KRYON STYLUS!!”

Funny, I took my Crayon yesteday to the shop to try it out on an ipad pro 2018, and was real happy it work quite well. Am using my crayon on the ipad mni 5 gen. and I must say, I am quite amazed by it, regardless of the couple of limitations...

Im planning to get one for taking notes in college