DON'T BUY TRUE GOALIE GEAR | 1 Year Review

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@IsraelHockey
@IsraelHockey 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this is how it is with every brand of gear.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Sad you can’t find one brand that is overwhelming awesome. Graphic, performance, company values, etc
@keithswenor3230
@keithswenor3230 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure that I've found Brian's to be the best for me and my son. I recently tried every glove at a goalie gear demo in Detroit. Brian's optik 2 had by far the most comfortable glove. Warrior was awful, Vaughn v9, awful, CCM, don't even go there. Nobody does it like Brian's. Unfortunately true gear was not there so no looks at it.
@donutgoal8509
@donutgoal8509 3 жыл бұрын
@@keithswenor3230 i honestly wish the did all the break angles for ccm at the demos
@PeteNice29
@PeteNice29 3 жыл бұрын
Look, you know this largely CCM materials. Sure, it’s Lefevre design, but so what. Brians is where you need to stay, that is unless you burned that bridge 🙃
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
@@PeteNice29 Chris joZwiak is a clown. Boom, fridge burned
@robh.8214
@robh.8214 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, great timing!!! As a fellow Winnipegger and 50 year old sieve of a “goalie” I’m always interested in new gear. The original Vaughn velocities saved my knees! Watching how these pads move on the pros (not that I’m even within 1% of that) they caught my interest! A year out of one set is phenomenal for as much as you play! I’ll stick with my setup which is basically Vaughn but with Brian’s pads and a CCM bag… Keep up the awesome vids!!!!
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 2 жыл бұрын
Hope the video helped Rob! Chat soon ;) fellow winnipeger
@chrispellizzari4528
@chrispellizzari4528 3 жыл бұрын
What a shocker. True/Lefevre ends their relationship with trav and he comes out and trashes them, as he promised he would.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Was trashing True 2 years ago, long before my relationship with Lefevre began. Reps at true are 🤡
@chrispellizzari4528
@chrispellizzari4528 3 жыл бұрын
Why, because they were smart enough not to work with you knowing you'd throw a hissy fit and threaten them with bad reviews?
@claytonl7349
@claytonl7349 3 жыл бұрын
Why u so salty over skmeone not liking true,you just as bad as bauer fanboys
@lo-fi8558
@lo-fi8558 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrispellizzari4528 probably what they thought. They couldn’t take constructive criticism lol
@chrispellizzari4528
@chrispellizzari4528 3 жыл бұрын
@@claytonl7349 no salt, I just know he's been called out by Lefevre reps for exactly this, messages included.
@stevedave3337
@stevedave3337 3 жыл бұрын
Have you tried Mylec pads yet? I've heard good things.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Never heard of them
@nemtall
@nemtall 3 жыл бұрын
Aren't they for street hockey ?
@stevedave3337
@stevedave3337 3 жыл бұрын
Technically yes, for street hockey, and for kids, but I'm sure Trav can make em work!
@evanthorpe4908
@evanthorpe4908 3 жыл бұрын
Tell em...!
@jimbodangle178
@jimbodangle178 3 жыл бұрын
Huge difference between pads for street/ball/dek hockey and ice pads. Huge difference
@randomuncreditedquotes7666
@randomuncreditedquotes7666 3 жыл бұрын
“A heart with room for chickens is a heart full of love.”
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
LOOK AT ALL THOOOOOSE CHICKENS
@swedreamhack5308
@swedreamhack5308 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid! I have nothing to say really, I'm completely washed up on todays gear but 20 weeks sounds like a long time to wait for somethign that's gonna break.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Don't even have to be a goalie to understand that 20+ weeks for gear is absolutely retarded for retail. Nothing else to it than that
@keithswenor3230
@keithswenor3230 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you have to wait for good gear and covid is probably fucking that up. I also heard that Lefebvre asked Brian's to help them and Brian's said no
@ryana3679
@ryana3679 3 жыл бұрын
Vaughn never fails. I’ve had Bauer and Brian gear but always went back to Vaughn. Just does what you need all the time every time. Bauer blockers are the best tho.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Bauer blockers are the best forsure
@stahr26
@stahr26 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using Vaughn for awhile now going to buy v9 glove & blocker got ve8 pads a little while ago I like em they feel a little bulky still but I went Up like 6 inches
@goalie2998
@goalie2998 3 жыл бұрын
I have a set of coopers from 1982 in my garage somewhere. They are like 28" actual measurements. I can ship immediately. Sorry the graphics are brown leather with major wear spots.
@Matfast32
@Matfast32 3 жыл бұрын
Love my G5's so far, can't say that I hate True but I like that you're being honest with us buddy ! Speaking of gear how are the Ultrasonic skates holding up, any Bauer Bump/ discomfort issues ?
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Love my ultrasonic skates. Amazing to say they’re the best skates I’ve ever owned man. Thanks for Watching and allowing me to be honest with you
@habsfan8768
@habsfan8768 Жыл бұрын
It's absolutely refreshing to see someone not pandering for sponsorships or the money....good on you for being honest, this is severely lacking in the KZfaq community... I appreciate you
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers Жыл бұрын
I am the only one you will find on the internet that doesnt meet that description. The rest are all cold blooded sellouts. Thanks for watching bro
@richardkim5184
@richardkim5184 3 жыл бұрын
Travis great video great tips on the Lefevre goal gear. I’ve always had Lefevre gear head to toe with the 580 break. I love my Lefevre/ CCM
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Lofe long 580?
@richardkim5184
@richardkim5184 3 жыл бұрын
@@trav4oilers yesss 580
@IrfanKhan-ur6wi
@IrfanKhan-ur6wi 3 жыл бұрын
Thorough review. The wait times would be killer but if you do go for a more generic colour scheme, you could probably pick up a pro set from a retailer (although it would not be custom). I know its not the same thing but I find today's pads already have a bunch of options that you can tweak with, it could potentially work out. I am sure this comment would not apply to the college and pro players but for beer leaguers like myself, its more than fine. Love trying to look for pro gear on the cheap.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
And that's what this review is targeted for my friend. Maybe you wanna wait that long, maybe you don't but my job is too present you with he facts and then make your own opinion s
@ashtonolson6401
@ashtonolson6401 3 жыл бұрын
What gear will u order. I was going to buy the new 12.2’s but when I found out It was a 18-20 week wait from retail. I decided to just go with the EF5 tell next year.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Good call! My full gear video will be up next week
@bendrevilletigres2021
@bendrevilletigres2021 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Trav, Customer service is shockingly bad with a few goalie companies. I'm a coach with some big time call signs and cant get an email from a few ahem (True Vaughn). I was also told wait time on True is 26-30 weeks. Thanks for making me feel better about the loss (their loss)
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
See this is the problem man, no customer service. Insane weight times, etc
@Tychung7
@Tychung7 3 жыл бұрын
Have you tried ccm eflex 4 pro and if so how similar and different is it to the lefevre true set
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Never tried Ef4 sorry man
@2slovak0
@2slovak0 2 жыл бұрын
I almost feel my eh same without Bauer. As a D guy, I always felt that once they started charging more than $180 for twigs that would snap in less than a month, they were going to go all out on the other prices. Sure enough, look at their player skates and sticks now. Wish I would of kept my vapor XX.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 2 жыл бұрын
True has gone downhill my friend
@JacobPilon
@JacobPilon 3 жыл бұрын
Can't really elaborate (NDA because I work on their customizer), but there are (at least) two things you got wrong: - Practice vs Practice Xtra both close the same way. The only difference is that the Xtra one has an extra layer of protection on both sides of the break (the break itself is the same). - They didn't lower the ETA because of you. There's a simple benign reason which I can't talk about (or maybe I can but don't want to risk my job because I love working on their customizer and as stated above, we have a NDA). People might think I'm biased, but I do not work for True/Lefevre directly and I'm only stating facts, not opinions.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Send me an Insta DM or Email man. Won't spill the beans on ya. Always open to other opinions or outlooks
@JacobPilon
@JacobPilon 3 жыл бұрын
@@trav4oilers Sorry man, won't risk it haha.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
@@JacobPilon nothing more than smoke n mirrors then my friend! All the best to ya , and thanks for watching
@JacobPilon
@JacobPilon 3 жыл бұрын
@@trav4oilers I mean, take it as you want, but I think it's understandable that we have an NDA that I won't breach because I want to keep my job. All I can say is that there's a logical explanation that isn't related to you or any other content creator. If True/Lefevre want to step in and clear things up for you, that's up to them. As for myself, that's all I can tell you. Cheers!
@mxst_urbae3406
@mxst_urbae3406 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! Can I get some advice for a glove? I play u16 aaa right now with a high end Vaughn v9 glove and pretty much every single shot is a hard stinger to the glove if it doesn’t hit my pocket PERFECTLY. I have really good tracking, glove positioning, and years of baseball routing for my catching skill, and I know I have a good glove hand, I just think my glove scares me a bit and just isn’t fast like it should feel any recommendations??? Thanks!!
@Redden63
@Redden63 9 күн бұрын
I don’t know what I would tell you. Knowing your now in 18u. You’ve probably found the glove for you by now. But if your glove is as good as you say it is, get a pro palm. send it to the goalie glove guy, or alternatively learn how to do it yourself. And have him get it done.
@stackthepadsgoaltending
@stackthepadsgoaltending 3 жыл бұрын
I would definitely love to hear what you think of the new 12.2 line that came out. Not sure if that was under the True or Lefevre umbrella
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
ALL of that and more in Mondays new video Johnny!
@HotBranch
@HotBranch 3 жыл бұрын
The wait times have gotten worse since I had a good, long look at the gear back in late Feb, early March. Back then, I was told it was a solid 12 weeks, so another 8-10 weeks tacked on seems about right. While I was suitably impressed with the build quality, the price point is a definite sticking point and the graphics barely reach the level of "meh". Also, I know you put your gear through the paces more than even the keenest of beer leaguers, but for velcro to start coming undone after 1 year is kind of sad--not a deal breaker, but definitely something to consider as future maintenance costs. Thanks for the review. Looking forward to seeing the new gear. Also, how hard is it to find a university code? The Hyperlite gear looks awfully tempting to this old fart with bad knees.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Dude if they were telling you 12 weeks then they were lying to you. Not to be rude, this was the wait time for awhile. Getting extra straps would fix that? Honestly not that hard because people just give me their university codes. Prob got 5-6 of them in my life. love ya as always Pauly, thanks for watching
@HotBranch
@HotBranch 3 жыл бұрын
@@trav4oilers It wasn't even Lefevre themselves, it was a sales drone for a major chain. On the plus side, he was a dedicated goalie sales drone, so he was able to explain correctly, but he had faith in the 12 week wait time. I, on the other hand, have been burned by wait times a few too many times when ordering custom, so I know to hedge my bets (can anything really be worse than 18 months?)
@tysonwildeboer42
@tysonwildeboer42 3 жыл бұрын
Wow did not expect you to tell us not to buy this gear would have thought you would tell us to buy this Great great video trav it was good to hear hope your safe see you in the next one
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
All’s well hbu Tyson? Thanks for watching man. I’m loyal to you and everybody who watches, not a corporation
@marcellosaviano1808
@marcellosaviano1808 3 жыл бұрын
trav whats the best stick for durability while also being on the lighter side?
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
I did a "best stick for your money" video 3 months ago. Highly recommend you check sit out man
@marcellosaviano1808
@marcellosaviano1808 3 жыл бұрын
@@trav4oilers yea i watched it but most the sticks are over 300 which is a bit over budget for me. Do yk any that are in the 150-250$ range?
@bricethompson6624
@bricethompson6624 3 жыл бұрын
Just wear and do what Vasilevskiy does. He seems to be pretty dialed in.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Actually he’s influencing a lot of my new gear coming. That will be next week my friend!
@NME3
@NME3 3 жыл бұрын
Off topic, but how are the CCM Axis pants? Just ordered a pair and noticed you’ve been wearing them for a little bit now.
@GeneralMatte117
@GeneralMatte117 3 жыл бұрын
I just saw them in a store on Friday For the first time with my own eyes. They look really cheap. I feel like it doesn’t have that cleanliness that Lefevre has. Obviously I haven’t use it all, so I can’t comment on that. But it just doesn’t help me fall in love with their gear like it did before. And I just finished picking up some older “brand new” CCM 4.5 pads that Lefevre made which i love.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Dude I had em for almost a year and love em. Comfiest and most flexile pants to date. Wish them look better visuals but highly recommend
@JH-nq2fg
@JH-nq2fg 3 жыл бұрын
What gear are you looking at for next season, and what gear would you get if not True? Would you ho back to Warrior? Why don't more pros use Warrior?
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Next weeks video is exactly what I ordered ;)
@mitchellspearns1843
@mitchellspearns1843 3 жыл бұрын
Should I get eflex 5, hyperlite or true 12.2?
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly just get hyper lite
@mcnallyscrease5046
@mcnallyscrease5046 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man what's up just watched your video great video keep up the good work
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Love ya Andy. Thanks for being an OG viewer. Youre a stud bro
@rileyrobeson207
@rileyrobeson207 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to try Lefevre pads, but I think I’m sold on Brian’s, the Optik 2’s are amazing!
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
You’re prob safe there
@gabbygarant-grenon4911
@gabbygarant-grenon4911 2 жыл бұрын
I love Brian’s gear but their custom colors sucks. The only yellow they have is fluo (no athletic gold similar to Nashville) in the customization options.
@thebloodything1471
@thebloodything1471 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you've already heard of JRZ; handcrafted in Quebec city, they used to make the Bauer gear I believe, and went their own way when Bauer started to go down the "cheaper material/china made" way.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah heard a lot about them. Not sure if I'd pay for their gear site unseen but who knows
@thebloodything1471
@thebloodything1471 3 жыл бұрын
@@trav4oilers They do have a tryout program, I think you can try the gear for a week
@freddysoderberg410
@freddysoderberg410 3 жыл бұрын
Are you still gonna get the L12.2 stuff or not?
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Well next weeks video is going to be unveiling everything I ordered
@Jaxzyyy_
@Jaxzyyy_ 3 жыл бұрын
Is warrior good for an intermediate goalie. I need new gear next season and am thinking about warrior
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah warrior makes solid gear
@noelholzer46
@noelholzer46 2 жыл бұрын
Light weight and you can modify the G5 to your liking. Love those minor adjustments
@mckenlysetser3481
@mckenlysetser3481 3 жыл бұрын
Good thing I'm a Vaughn guy. I have only used Vaughn sense I was a kid. Well because of you if I ever change pad brand I know who to steer clear of.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
what vaughn model you in right now?
@mckenlysetser3481
@mckenlysetser3481 3 жыл бұрын
Velocity ve8 pro senior. I'm to poor to afford the pro carbon. Or the v9s
@treebender-bl2du
@treebender-bl2du Жыл бұрын
Was contemplating a set of True as I used to love my Lefevre ccms. Got a set of the bauer s2pro and had been skeptical about bauer stuff in general but having watched this video I'm going to stick with the bauer and go with what I've been having success with
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the love brother. Hope you enjoy tomorrows new video :)
@bendytendy356
@bendytendy356 3 жыл бұрын
I’m looking for a custom true glove. Do you think it is worth the money.
@caidenwhite8343
@caidenwhite8343 3 жыл бұрын
title says do not buy true so i’d assume he’s gonna answer no
@bendytendy356
@bendytendy356 3 жыл бұрын
@@caidenwhite8343 ya no shit, but there might be some good things
@chrispellizzari4528
@chrispellizzari4528 3 жыл бұрын
@@bendytendy356 any Lefevre gear is not only fine, it's top notch. Anything trav is about to say in this video, is him being bitter that they chose not to work with him anymore.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Answer is no, you’ll see tomorrow
@caidenwhite8343
@caidenwhite8343 3 жыл бұрын
@@trav4oilers thanks trav
@pitzer52
@pitzer52 3 жыл бұрын
What knees pad do you use?
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
I use Warrior X2 pro plus but I'm in the middle of looking for a new set!
@ericracette460
@ericracette460 3 жыл бұрын
I feel that I would buy them anyway. I have been with Koho by lefevre back in 1999-2000. Been a beer league I wear my own jersey. So where are you going to be in Europe next year. Thanks for your honest review.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and listening to my honest review man. Will announce in the coming weeks my friend
@Aloha_Alchemist
@Aloha_Alchemist 3 жыл бұрын
I’m selling my ccm E FLEX 3.9 DEBATING ON BRIAN’s optik 2 or warriors G5 YOUR THOUGHTS I PLAY BEER LEAGUE AT A GOOD LEVEL THANKS
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 2 жыл бұрын
Im going g6 or MACH next
@rulinghabs
@rulinghabs 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like every goalie in the NHL wears them now!!
@No_Fear_33
@No_Fear_33 3 жыл бұрын
and EVery goalie wearing them is having career worsts. Only the discontinued 4.1's are their best goalies. True is the Walmart brand of the NHL.
@DRoy-70
@DRoy-70 3 жыл бұрын
@@No_Fear_33 HUH!? At least 3 of the 4 or 5 Vézina finalists wear True...(Fleury, Saros, Varlamov)...ALL career best years.
@nemtall
@nemtall 3 жыл бұрын
@@DRoy-70 they are Lefevre loyal goalies not TRUE . If CCM still was connected to Lefevre they wouldn't be in TRUE get it yet ?
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
@@No_Fear_33 idk if I’d go that far but very true
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Good chunk are ccm guys from before
@onelove1968
@onelove1968 2 жыл бұрын
Back in the 80's I had to use the old donated league gear, because we couldn't afford to buy the new stuff. The choices were between bad and worse. Duct tape was a common fix whenever straps broke and the seams would tear apart.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 2 жыл бұрын
Times have changed a lot since then man
@rileyrobeson207
@rileyrobeson207 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Trav, I think you already have this in the works, but could you do a review on your No Name goalie stick? I’m interested in purchasing one but I’m not sure about it yet.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
That will pop up eventually
@luvslogistics1725
@luvslogistics1725 2 жыл бұрын
I want to know if there’s a company that doesn’t make equipment in China? Is Vaughn, Brian’s or Warrior made in China, any line?
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 2 жыл бұрын
Brians is the only all Canadian made company but I'm not a fan of the gear
@luvslogistics1725
@luvslogistics1725 2 жыл бұрын
@@trav4oilers thanks, I thought Vaughn or Warrior too made equipment in North America. I’m American, but will buy Brian’s to give a job to a Canadian and don’t wish to spend money on companies that have dealings with China, just my personal preference.
@Slvrspec0r0lla
@Slvrspec0r0lla 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah.. I tried to get a custom L87 graphic glove before the true brand was on the lefevre pads, because you know… true sucks… and a guy I was talking to told me about it being 20+ weeks, and I hadn’t ordered yet because it was close to the deadline of true buying out lefevre and the guy told me since it was 20+weeks, I’d be able to probably get the lefevre name on it still even though I’d be passing the time that they’d have the true label on it. I ended up buying a Bauer glove off of sideline swap and I’m so glad I didn’t end up going the custom route. Saved me so much money and headache
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
You’re prob one of 100’s of people who did the same. Why would you Wait so long for gear? Lol
@Slvrspec0r0lla
@Slvrspec0r0lla 3 жыл бұрын
@@trav4oilers idk, and I am completely satisfied with the trapper I purchased off of swap. Who knew I was gonna really like a Bauer glove. I had always wanted to try one, but never thought of buying one new. Then I saw this SMOKIN deal, and I thought “what would my boy travis do? Go for the custom, or go with the smokin deal ⚖️”
@Slvrspec0r0lla
@Slvrspec0r0lla 2 жыл бұрын
@@trav4oilers this aged perfectly😄, like fine wine
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 2 жыл бұрын
@@Slvrspec0r0lla nothing I say ages well. It’s on purpose
@womensrightsgaming9795
@womensrightsgaming9795 3 жыл бұрын
Ever tried Passau gear? Ive briefly heard about it but don't know much
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Stay away from Passau man, youre way better to pickup a pro return on sideline swap bro
@womensrightsgaming9795
@womensrightsgaming9795 3 жыл бұрын
@@trav4oilers I use sideline swap alot and i will take your advice on not using Passau
@mattyice2247
@mattyice2247 3 жыл бұрын
I ordered a glove from true last month it said on the website it would be here in July but, now I’m getting told it’s coming in October.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
the true guarantee, thanks for your money, see ya later
@PAYNEINC2007
@PAYNEINC2007 Жыл бұрын
I've used D and R I think made in Quebec. No issues great protection and lightweight
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers Жыл бұрын
Good to know man :) thanks for watching
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
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@gorilla_shiong3864
@gorilla_shiong3864 3 жыл бұрын
So what pads would you recommend
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Tough call, maybe hyper lite? IdK. They're all bad choices
@rudyarishin8899
@rudyarishin8899 3 жыл бұрын
wait so your telling me that i’ve been saving up for a long time to order a custom set of l20.1, is a bad idea
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, invest it in Tesla stock ;)
@traceinnet5558
@traceinnet5558 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll be sure to let you know how it goes once I get my EF5 set
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing it man! Cheers
@mrspaceman3612
@mrspaceman3612 3 жыл бұрын
i really need a new glove and i have not used much different gear. what is your favorite glove that you’ve used?
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
I really love my 580. My recommendation would be check out Sidelineswap and pick up a pro return or gently used 580 and thats your best bet. Thanks again for watching man!
@ajh7722
@ajh7722 3 жыл бұрын
Good tie in to nord vpn. Segway game is tight! Good review for sure. I like the honesty, as always. I’m always skeptical of Velcro/hook and loop fastening devices. Great in the beginning but in the long run just headaches... not just the hockey industry.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks is for watching and allowing me to be honest with you brother!
@johngraham1252
@johngraham1252 3 жыл бұрын
I just ordered new Brian’s optik 2 pants and they will be done before the end of summer. Hope you get Canadian made but betting on Bauer.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
John graham as in Boston all star Johnny Graham?
@johngraham1252
@johngraham1252 3 жыл бұрын
@@trav4oilers No but I do get that alot😂 His name is spelled differently
@fury2345
@fury2345 3 жыл бұрын
I know Trav doesn't like Brians and I am the total opposite as I will be in almost complete Brians Gear (Pads, Glove, Blocker and C&A)next season, but the point with custom wait time is so true. From order till arrival I only had to wait 5 weeks for my new custom Chestie...
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, we may not see eye to eye on Brians (not a problem) because beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But you can order in July and still get your gear for the start of the season, for TRUE it was too late 2 months ago. What a joke. Hows the chest?
@fury2345
@fury2345 3 жыл бұрын
@@trav4oilers Obviously couldn't try it out yet, but after fitting and wearing it around the house it feels like an really mobile tank. Can easily touch hands above the head and behind the back. Out the box, it felt like my six year old Vaughn I had before :)
@aept208
@aept208 Жыл бұрын
I had to watch this again because of the reveal of your new L20.2 True set and I was wondering why you went with True now?
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers Жыл бұрын
I will disucss all this in the 3 month review. Its kinda complicated
@terkeldamsunne6853
@terkeldamsunne6853 3 жыл бұрын
What gear are you going to use next season ?
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Next weeks video is my new gear actually ;)
@brandonsartor6150
@brandonsartor6150 2 жыл бұрын
I guess it depends who you know. I ordered a set of 20.2 in late December and I got them at the beginning of March
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 2 жыл бұрын
Thats the key my friend
@harleyshellhammer9635
@harleyshellhammer9635 3 жыл бұрын
The issue we live in today is, these companies have become so powerful, they can't stand when their product gets called out. I was so pumped to see the classic "L" once again and even tho I'm retired from playing today, seriously thought about getting a set just to own. It was my childhood dream to own a pair of Lefebvre's back in the late 80s. Sad to see them not have the finances after many years with Koho, Reebok, and CCM to keep the company as is and make it. This is also part of the NHL's fault with their uber high demands for equipment contracts. Remember Hiller held out and would cover the name on his pads because of NHL contracts. John Brown getting screwed as well. It's crap and caters to companies that end up causing the issues you're calling out today Trav.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Bro, look at the facts. These companies send their gear to be "reviewed" by the guys they pay off and are biased. You never hear any negatives about gear unless it comes from me, or new startup goalie. They wanna censor any negative feedback, take your money. Hiller is a beautiful example my friend. Happy you can see thru the smoke. New video monday, YOU BETTER be there Harley. thanks for watching bud
@marcinos708
@marcinos708 3 жыл бұрын
I don't hate on brands but I've always been a Vaughn guy... never failed me once!
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
If it ain’t break don’t fix it
@MIMadDogsHC
@MIMadDogsHC 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s the conflicting part. I would love a Lefevre glove, it sounds awesome, but I don’t trust True and I can get a 90 degree break glove elsewhere for cheaper 🤷🏻‍♂️
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Warrior is also a great alternative
@MIMadDogsHC
@MIMadDogsHC 3 жыл бұрын
@@trav4oilers Yeah after doing a bunch of research I found a used lefevre blocker and then I'm getting warrior G5. That just seemed to make the most sense.
@wyattbento9450
@wyattbento9450 3 жыл бұрын
So what gear will you be going with next season, would it be Brian's?
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
That willl be next week ;)
@matthewpaluch777
@matthewpaluch777 3 жыл бұрын
😎👍 Reminds me of when Nike tried to rollout a equipment line...
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
And then they let Bauer take over?
@matthewpaluch777
@matthewpaluch777 3 жыл бұрын
@@trav4oilers Only after Bauer took over Cooper!
@ryana3679
@ryana3679 3 жыл бұрын
Did True break the bank this year with almost ever NHL goalie? There are more True sets out there than anything else and it seems like it happened out of the blue.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Very well could have
@Captndarty
@Captndarty 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using Vaughns since the Legacy VPG1000 Moogs. And have tried others in between. Alway go back to the best. Vaughn.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 2 жыл бұрын
I ain't a vaughn guy but hey whatever works for you brother ;)
@dylanlacroix1996
@dylanlacroix1996 3 жыл бұрын
Theres a reason why the waits are 20 weeks it’s because they have to make Carey Price, and 36 other goalies in the nhl’s gear before others which is 65 percent of nhl goalies plus Ahl, CHL... the demand is insane because the product is good Trav. you get the same quality of gear as Hellebuyck no other company is doing that. Bauer sent the wrong size of pad to my goalie partner he ordered a 34 got a 35 how does that happen Bauer dose not care. With the lefevre/true not asking you how they can improve the product they can ask 37 nhl goalies their opinion. with all do respect I see the work you put in but true is not gonna ask a Manitoba Junior B, fringe canadien university goalie when they can ask the best of the best. What do you think trav?
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
You’re 100% accurate my friend. No doubt about it BUT that jUnior b fringe college goalie is 90% of their retail market. NHL guys drive attention but guys like me are their sales
@prosportsclips5564
@prosportsclips5564 3 жыл бұрын
most of those goalies are having career worsts
@harleyshellhammer9635
@harleyshellhammer9635 3 жыл бұрын
Dylan is also missing that when Trav and True first partnered, True was not servicing a single NHL goalie back then. Dylans same argument could be made, why did True come to Trav for marketing when they have blank number of NHL goalies, right? But they didn't. If you are a goalie needing gear chasing your dream to be an NHL goalie, how do you feel about having your possible future derailed because a company can't get you your gear in a timely fashion because they're busy servicing their NHL goalies and not investing in another facility to make gear for their much wider clientele? And, they have to pay a ridiculous amount of money to the NHL just to do that which ultimately is laying on the hopes kids will ask their parents for their fav NHL goalies equipment. So it's in their absolute best interest to do so.
@landongoerzen3342
@landongoerzen3342 3 жыл бұрын
yo Trav have you got all your new gear yet?
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Ordered!!!!
@seanmccormack6103
@seanmccormack6103 3 жыл бұрын
Since we’re talking gear here. I’m a Vaughn guy because of Tuukka lol. I have a game used set of his that I use for myself! :D
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
You using V6, V7?
@seanmccormack6103
@seanmccormack6103 3 жыл бұрын
@@trav4oilers Its his most recent "VE8" I don't know the specs of his leg pads (other than the size) but they seem like an older core with VE8 strapping, but I'm not sure. V7 blocker and V6 glove because I couldn't find a Vaughn EPIC glove like Tuukka uses.
@williamsellman1
@williamsellman1 3 жыл бұрын
I was told 2 weeks ago that 22-24 weeks was optimistic so I went with Brians and Miklin instead
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
See what I’m saying? These guys ain’t getting you your gear anytime soon
@_Wheysted_
@_Wheysted_ 3 жыл бұрын
Travs gettin G5s I knew it!
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Masaaaaaybe
@johns1187
@johns1187 3 жыл бұрын
@@trav4oilers Lot of goalies in Finland wear Warrior gear. Goalies from Finland stop lots of pucks.
@jjasonc
@jjasonc 3 жыл бұрын
How does a long wait time equal watered down product? To me that is a company that is sticking to their quality, if the wait time drastically drops, then I would be worried that the product was outsourced. Yeah their wait time is double the length of others, but that is probably the popularity built from their new exposure in the show, good problem to have if people are willing to wait that long for it, seems like there must be a few of it takes that long.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Valid point Jason. True is taking the pro only factory and trying to get them to produce for the whole world now, sourcing a Chinese made retail mod for cheaper costs to start so far. They did the same thing with VH skates which everybody seems to have problems with me. And also I see it as if they tell me to beat it, in regards to customer service issues. They will do the same to you? Just my POV. Appreciate ya watching brother and thanks for conversing with me
@modestflamingo7272
@modestflamingo7272 3 жыл бұрын
The next episode why you should by true 20.1 goalie pads
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
;) see ya tomorrow
@lilstiffofficial3732
@lilstiffofficial3732 3 жыл бұрын
i liked how you mentioned the quality would be better through a company like lefevre than a chinese kid making it but really for me i had custom simmons (yes the original simmons they still make gear) air 1000 pro gloves and i have had to replace the top of the blocker due to logo peeling and the glove is great tho but their sticks aswell are shit might ju8st be simmons but still a small local north american based hockey company
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Canadian made doesn't always mean the best, especially with Simmons lol
@lilstiffofficial3732
@lilstiffofficial3732 3 жыл бұрын
@@trav4oilers simmons always was a highly reputable brand im in buffalo and everyone loves and uses their stuff like the old goalie on my team had 5 sticks from them but ive seem to be the onlyu one with issues haha
@MGhockey
@MGhockey 3 жыл бұрын
A shame that it takes so long, especially because True has become so popular amongst goalies, especially NHL goalies.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
6 months and $4000 dollars is the price of entry for this one. it's a shame
@Samuel-wo2xz
@Samuel-wo2xz 2 жыл бұрын
@@trav4oilers that price tag is insane
@nolanhorvatits4535
@nolanhorvatits4535 3 жыл бұрын
Can you please review the new hyperlite stick
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
You can expect nothing less man. Already got it and will discuss in next weeks video!
@jasonfuentes6084
@jasonfuentes6084 3 жыл бұрын
All my gear used but my helment. Sideline swap but even there a lot of gear is over place.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Swap is a great place man!
@kalancooke
@kalancooke 2 жыл бұрын
I will NEVER switch from my bauer 2xpro setup, I’ve never been faster even demoing the ultrasonic stuff and the true I still like my 2x way more
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta stick with bauer then
@kalancooke
@kalancooke 2 жыл бұрын
@@trav4oilers oh yeah, never been faster I went from a set of premier 2s to the 2x pros and I’ve never felt better
@dejpan2
@dejpan2 3 жыл бұрын
My friend who ordered a set have to wait 22-25 weeks ex shipping to Sweden.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Big save, this is the problem. I ain't full of shit when I was talking about the wait times
@dejpan2
@dejpan2 3 жыл бұрын
@@trav4oilers I’m looking for a new set but can’t decide 😅 I will be playing around 4 times a week from now on. My G4’s is really spongy now
@seankelly8687
@seankelly8687 3 жыл бұрын
Even for pro’s I know pro’s who switched out of Lefevre because of service issues before they were bought by True.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Which pro's do you know? The pro's I talked to said the exact opposite.
@shrunkenheadsandspiderwebs697
@shrunkenheadsandspiderwebs697 3 жыл бұрын
I love lefevre and was hoping to get their gear one day. Now I gotta think
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Now ain't the time man, better days will be ahead. Might as well buy bauer
@Josh4Hockey
@Josh4Hockey 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait till the vid trav!
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
See ya tomorrow
@evank33
@evank33 3 жыл бұрын
Should've waited to win GGSU raffle. Get some free gear 😉
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Half the guys in that group can barely stand on ice. Need some lessons as raffle prizes
@clibbclibbson2548
@clibbclibbson2548 3 жыл бұрын
@@trav4oilers says the guy who paid to play Junior C Canada and division 2 in Sweden 😂. Can't throw shit at every goalies company and group because you can't save a beach ball 😂
@keithswenor3230
@keithswenor3230 3 жыл бұрын
@@trav4oilers pretty sure your just jealous because they bash your reviews of gear that tons of goalies swear by, like Brian's or true
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
@@keithswenor3230 any ideas to fix that?
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
@@clibbclibbson2548 any ideas how to fix that?
@ntj4christ
@ntj4christ 3 жыл бұрын
I wish Warrior would make a smaller blocker... Love thier stuff, but not the blocker.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Smaller blocker? What do you mean
@ntj4christ
@ntj4christ 3 жыл бұрын
@@trav4oilers A bit of a thinner Broad... Was a big fan of the Vaughn Epic 8000 series. I really liked it's thinner profile. I love that you adjust the Warrior blocker and change out the palms... But for some reason I don't like the balance of it.
@AshtrayAnnie
@AshtrayAnnie 2 жыл бұрын
I've always found it weird how many companies have come and went as the #1 goalie pad brand. I don't think any other sport has seen as many 'king of the court' type of brands throughout the decades. TPS, Brian's, KOHO, RBK, Bauer, CCM, Vaughn, and now TRUE. I remember growing up TPS was huge because of Hasek, KOHO because of Roy, CCM because of Brodeur. Now you don't see too many options imo, and everything kind of looks the same.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 2 жыл бұрын
I think bauer Mach will be top this year
@Sevastian_Donahue
@Sevastian_Donahue 2 жыл бұрын
he is being honest
@AshtrayAnnie
@AshtrayAnnie 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sevastian_Donahue haha what?
@Sevastian_Donahue
@Sevastian_Donahue 2 жыл бұрын
@@AshtrayAnnie i replyed to the wrong comment lmao sorry
@AshtrayAnnie
@AshtrayAnnie 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sevastian_Donahue all good, I wouldn't expect anything less from a flames fan😜😜🤣
@yeehawmckickass
@yeehawmckickass 3 жыл бұрын
So the TL;DW is “Excellent gear being marred by corporate meddling.” Or “Business gonna business”.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
It's how it's going to be my friend
@alkumhcounseling8634
@alkumhcounseling8634 3 жыл бұрын
Can't help but notice that none of the pads in this video have the word "true" on them.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Lefevre is now true so TRUE basically owns everything I wear now. Same shit, different pile. Thanks for watching man
@kevmac1230
@kevmac1230 Жыл бұрын
It's come a long way from my Cooper all leather gear.I bet one leg pad weights as much as all of this gear.If you could see my chest protector and arm sleeves you'd laugh.I can't believe the technology that goes into this stuff.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers Жыл бұрын
Its crazy to see now eh
@GrindBass86
@GrindBass86 3 жыл бұрын
Who the hell is paying $500 for a blocker in any currency?
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
People pay it every day man.
@Matt-dl2iy
@Matt-dl2iy 3 жыл бұрын
professionals tbh
@liamscott7109
@liamscott7109 3 жыл бұрын
Im not to jazzed about that wait time its gonna take 6 to 8 weeks just for a glove :(
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
WelL I think you just answered your questions
@bigneary88
@bigneary88 3 жыл бұрын
Must not have got the gear for free. Gear must be trash bc of it.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
It’s always trash if they ain’t forking over cash too
@bigneary88
@bigneary88 3 жыл бұрын
@@trav4oilers guess you might want to stop more pucks to get some cash forked over...
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigneary88 any ideas that can help me?
@alexandervr_96
@alexandervr_96 3 жыл бұрын
When is your new gear video?
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Next week baby!
@thebignewfie
@thebignewfie 3 жыл бұрын
You are Looking at it from the wrong angle. We are lucky to get Lefevre now... so if it’s 20 weeks... oh well. The alternative it Chinese made CCM. Have you ever noticed pro returns went out from the other manufacturers but not CCM? It’s because they wanted to lock that down. We are lucky we can still order from True/Lefevre. 20 weeks no problem, thanks for allowing us regular beer league goalies to still order Canadian Lefevre.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
You're correct Ronny. Still access to great gear CURRENTLY however I do believe that will change. The pendulum always swings to one side and then all the way back to the other. BTW saw Jorge replying to your comment on GGSU. Curious how I got no stroke meanwhile he cold called me outta nowhere this summer to tell me how many pros are watching my videos when they want to learn more about Lefevre gear. Also he got his ass fired from Vaughn for being "the most useless rep in Vaughn history" according to another present Vaughn employee. Jorge may actually take my position for the biggest clown in hockey. Appreciate ya watching buddy, cheers!
@derekalband6132
@derekalband6132 3 жыл бұрын
That’s all normal big business stuff that we have to deal with as a business. Yeah it’s sucks for us but they have been bought out and are a good product and consumers have to make a decision on time vs quality.now under a new business model. They need to figure it out. What happens in the short term vs. what happens in the long term. Think they have got the product and nhl is supporting them.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
They have the product and always have HOWEVER true and their business practices will be the ultimate decider
@andrewfaucett6915
@andrewfaucett6915 3 жыл бұрын
There are so many companies making gear. Who owns whom?!?! I miss the good old days way back when I played. Easier to shop for gear. I miss my amazing D&R leg pads. They ruled!
@nemtall
@nemtall 3 жыл бұрын
Agree wish Copper would make a come back as well .
@andrewfaucett6915
@andrewfaucett6915 3 жыл бұрын
@@nemtall hell yeah!!! Some Durasoft 95s lol
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
I miss Eagle, those were the days!
@andrewfaucett6915
@andrewfaucett6915 3 жыл бұрын
@@trav4oilers Yes! Eagle made some great stuff.
@NIN34
@NIN34 2 жыл бұрын
UPDATE, anyone thinking of ordering gear DO NOT DO IT. I’m waiting 6 months, told it’s going to be another 5 to 6 months but true might cancel the order before then. It’s clear they don’t care about customers. Fuck true
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 2 жыл бұрын
I predicted it in December, people thought I was crazy
@thesportsquad4531
@thesportsquad4531 3 жыл бұрын
Hey great video
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
thanks bro, love ya
@matthewsmith2022
@matthewsmith2022 2 жыл бұрын
Lol bought a true goalie stick and like first week, in the blade broke
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 2 жыл бұрын
Never buy true lol sorry to hear bud
@donutgoal8509
@donutgoal8509 3 жыл бұрын
What the next set gonna be ccm, then you saying how wrong u were. Fyi im not salty he’s going to roast out true, it’s his opinion
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
You’ll love tomorrow’s video and my new set video will be next week
@donutgoal8509
@donutgoal8509 3 жыл бұрын
knew ya loved it, just need to wait out true sadly😔. also wait time is back to normal lol
@cb1978ish
@cb1978ish 3 жыл бұрын
Idk it seems like if you like supporting domestic goal companies, which I agree with. However, the only options I see for your level of play is Vaughn, Brians, or Jrz. JRZ were responsible for all Bauer pro equipment at one time, and I can only speak from my experience, but their stuff now is really well made. Stock graphics aren't the greatest, but it's not much more for custom graphics. Listen I know you like the warrior line, and I sport some warrior too, but noone should be able to twist their goal pad into a pretzel after a years use.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
There are options, all depends on what you like. If I'm getting those brands it's gonna be free or they're gonna have to wow me cause I don't see myself paying for those
@martyingram456
@martyingram456 3 жыл бұрын
Vintage trav with a nasty costume set next????
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
You can bet your money on that buddy, new setup video is next week on monday. see ya then :)
@Schneebly743
@Schneebly743 3 жыл бұрын
If the Lefevre guys can't handle making gear for everyone whilst being backed by True, they wouldn't be able to handle it on their own either. Not saying that True is doing better for them because I have no idea, but the facts are that they are trying to satisfy way more customers with the same factory, same employees and same designers. True's resources may help to increase the productivity but I foresee a True goalie factory in China or Mexico for retail customers to compensate for Lefevre's production deficit, which means we're back to square one with Lefevre.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 3 жыл бұрын
Just the fact Lefevre was only certain retailers, and now true opened it Up to everybody
@nickgustafson1346
@nickgustafson1346 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like he’s saying don’t buy because of price and wait time. Buy what brand you like and what you feel comfortable in. I’ve tried Brian’s and Vaughn and didn’t like either of them. It’s all based on personal preference.
@trav4oilers
@trav4oilers 2 жыл бұрын
The times were bad before the supply chain and shipping issues world wide. There are a lot worse now so you can buy but dont say I didn't warn you
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