How threatening is each monster during a Doom II nightmare 100% secrets run? Watch and find out. Tier list background base: tiermaker.com/ AGDQ Barney's teleporting mishap: • Doom 2: Hell On Earth ...
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@dickkickem3294 жыл бұрын
Ultra Violence: Why am I taking damage? Nightmare: W-
@one49104 жыл бұрын
Why am I dying?
@dutybound22114 жыл бұрын
Wha-
@Khirillin4 жыл бұрын
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@arthurmorgan19894 жыл бұрын
Perma pain
@beriff53984 жыл бұрын
@@dutybound2211 korega... Requiem... Da
@bulldozer67814 жыл бұрын
"Archviles are kinda rare in doom 2." *laughs in plutonia*
@rikuxziku77774 жыл бұрын
*cries in Hell Revealed*
@snapdragongaming62384 жыл бұрын
*Laughs in Vinesauce Joel WADS*
@emerald64894 жыл бұрын
*Cries in Archvile Maze*
@Destro654 жыл бұрын
*_Flashbacks of Archvile maze intensifies_*
@Baltimore_Hood_Vines_20144 жыл бұрын
#hellrevealedIIgang
@nightcoreguy72663 жыл бұрын
Therapist: Cacodemon with chaingun doesn't exist, it can't hurt you Cacodemon with chaingun: 12:08
@aleksandrk2814 Жыл бұрын
this is VERY underrated comment!
@Mercenary12577 Жыл бұрын
Cacogunner
@OblivionWalkerVerified Жыл бұрын
@@aleksandrk2814 a very under rated comment indeed
@SkippyZii Жыл бұрын
he even got the smug look like he's going "hehe boi"
@t-natehundred2438 Жыл бұрын
Truly a demon beyond SS tier
@ieatgarbage8771 Жыл бұрын
The worst thing about chaingunners is that they have 70 hp, meaning a shotgun blast will *_probably_* kill them
@rsj28772 ай бұрын
Yeah, they might also withstand the hit and lands some extra hits on you.
@garrettk71664 жыл бұрын
I'm completely unsurprised that chaingunners are SS tier. Most intense hitscanners ever, even on lower difficulties.
@DinnerForkTongue4 жыл бұрын
Blood's Fanatics are worse. So much worse.
@DinnerForkTongue4 жыл бұрын
@@corydawson5980 Oh god. Cultists of any kind in the water are a migraine waiting to happen. Also, fun fact: set a Fanatic, Zealot or Acolyte on fire and lead them to water before they die, and they'll become shotgun Cultists without changing robe colors.
@Nemmy724 жыл бұрын
Russian Overkill. Still Died to them.
@sanctifiedsuccubus25624 жыл бұрын
Chaingunners are worse than Arch-Viles. Change my mind.
@samragsdale23014 жыл бұрын
@@DinnerForkTongue I was very tempted to say just this. They have like 0 frame reaction times. They're so fast you generally just have to know where they are and kill them around the corner if you wish to avoid taking some damage. Bastards
@sideways1984 жыл бұрын
Leaving a room with demons is like not eating the crust of the pizza
@DinnerForkTongue4 жыл бұрын
Same as finishing a map without 100% kills.
@Gatitasecsii4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but on nightmare difficulty the cheesy part of the pizza respawns over and over, you don't wanna get too full, do you?
@spartanwar11854 жыл бұрын
Well i mean i'm not a big fan of pizza crust (except when having been microwaved after being refrigerated, oddly specific i know but i enjoy it better that way) But i do love leaving a room full of bullets, blood and corpses Sadly Nightmare does not allow the corpses part
@felynecomrade4 жыл бұрын
That's another reason why Ultra-Violence is the best difficulty. It's intense and still lets you litter the level with bodies.
@reloadpsi4 жыл бұрын
@@spartanwar1185 The microwaved crust is actually gorgeous :)
@predatorkingx40394 жыл бұрын
What Doomguy should’ve said in Doom Eternal: *”The chaingunners..they are everywhere..”*
@gamingltunesvarbu9183 жыл бұрын
Imps shotgunners zombie mans
@vidyabatter3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, there are none.
@GranddukeofWales3 жыл бұрын
@@vidyabatter yet
@Pataponaddict3 жыл бұрын
@Wah Time id-eas
@savril69013 жыл бұрын
Chaingunner zombies for doom 6
@FinnishGuy474 жыл бұрын
Now the same with Plutonia Tier F: Every other monster. Tier SS: Chaingunner.
@DinnerForkTongue4 жыл бұрын
No. Revenants are SS too.
@vyor88374 жыл бұрын
@@DinnerForkTongue More like SSSSS tier.
@fbiagentmiyakohoshino82234 жыл бұрын
FG47 chaingunner is sssssssssssssss tier
@annhentaiuser66584 жыл бұрын
Tier F: Rest of monsters Tier S: Arch-Viles (The Arch-Vile Maze is proof) and Revenants Tier SS: Chaingunners and their impeccable sniping skills.
@theslayerishereboi47384 жыл бұрын
No the revenant in doot form is ssssssssssss++++++++++++++++
@linguica4 жыл бұрын
FUN FACT: Doom (1993) was possibly the first major game to include multiple internet memes. IDSPISPOPD and Nightmare difficulty were both added as a direct response to comments from internet posters on Doom message boards.
@KnjazNazrath4 жыл бұрын
I believe they were called "in-jokes" back then. #realboomerDOOMerhours
@spacetrainbaby37374 жыл бұрын
Wait what does IDSPISPOPD mean
@SneedFeedAndSeed4 жыл бұрын
@Mialisus >Insider -jobs- based
@johnroscoe24064 жыл бұрын
@Mastema 2004? No. 1998.
@supahcomix2 жыл бұрын
@r33mote 1980s, 2004 had many memes, you were probably just too little or too old at the time
@DctrJimbo4 жыл бұрын
Me: Boy I do love doom! Chaingunners: no
@stephaniehutchens32224 жыл бұрын
no
@itwillbeindaysthinkaboutthat4 жыл бұрын
Just no
@screamsinrussian57734 жыл бұрын
yea
@painfullythicc76804 жыл бұрын
That's funny because no
@Shamrocker-4 жыл бұрын
y’know I actually realized the frickin chain gunner wasn’t in doom eternal
@las4gna843 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The Chaingunners' official name is Heavy Weapons Dude which, alongside their appearance, inspired Heavy Weapons Guy from TF2
@odstagent10704 жыл бұрын
Demons: we are the strongests on the game, we literally came from hell! Former Humans: Hold our beers...
@TheGundamDude80454 жыл бұрын
basically, the demon doomguy clones en masse.
@felynecomrade4 жыл бұрын
Claws, teeth and fireballs are all well and good- but they can't come close to bullets.
@thebagg45534 жыл бұрын
Teeth and claws vs lead and more lead
@dirkkrohn19074 жыл бұрын
Do former humans even drink beer anymore? Who knows what they do between runs
@dumb2144 жыл бұрын
@@dirkkrohn1907 Play doom
@supersmashbro5963 жыл бұрын
the spider mastermind is kind of like the king in chess. it might be behind everything, it might be the most important piece to capture, but on its own it is absolute shit.
@vksasdgaming94722 жыл бұрын
King is never captured and it can capture any other piece but Queen and other King.
@XenFPV2 жыл бұрын
@@vksasdgaming9472 But it's slow and every other piece except pawn can threaten a king.
@vksasdgaming94722 жыл бұрын
@@XenFPV I was wrong. King can capture Queen IF Queen comes within range and is unsupported. I don't find it very likely scenario. Every piece can threaten King and that includes pawns as well.
*Sees scene from "Imp Encounter"* Welp, time to go back to the therapist
@0neDoomedSpaceMarine4 жыл бұрын
Can't spell therapist without 'the rapist'
@juana.marquisf.59824 жыл бұрын
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine .Terry?
@bulldozer67814 жыл бұрын
*screams*
@yeeoof19953 жыл бұрын
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine Unspoken rule No.1: No hDoom.
@doomslayer67243 жыл бұрын
One Doomed Spacemarine that’s one doomed space marine.
@truefailure63593 жыл бұрын
Me, testing my doom maps on Nightmare: “Have you anything to say to your creator, before you strike him down?” The 50 chain gunners in one room: “No.”
@mollywantshugs59442 жыл бұрын
I see that you are a sadist with your levels
@joseignaciogazzi32782 жыл бұрын
JAJAJAJAJAJA
@Jurgen123445 Жыл бұрын
Won't they teamkill each other? Chaingunners are almost as notorious for their friendly fire as for their unfriendly fire.
@Moleoflands Жыл бұрын
@@Jurgen123445 The thing with chaingunners is that even when infighting they fire shots so wildly they still mess you up
@Jurgen123445 Жыл бұрын
@@Moleoflands makes sense, imprecision goes both ways
@MaxRideWizardLord4 жыл бұрын
I was not even slightly surprised about chainguner being on top. Chainguner is literally Satan incarnated, it's like the final boss of original doom but with shrinked hitbox at least 50 times and placed everywhere by 50 pieces per map.
@CarbonRollerCaco4 жыл бұрын
MaxRideWizardLord Actual Satan and second-in-command Hell cyborg with infinite ammo chaingun: F tier Fat zombified human slob with infinite ammo chaingun: SS tier
@TheGundamDude80454 жыл бұрын
basically, take doomguy's chaingun aspect, and multiply times 50 on every map. since the former humans are evil doomguys.
@Voice1214 жыл бұрын
Сommander Keen for SSS tier
@felipekretschmera.58124 жыл бұрын
Y e s
@sometffurry4 жыл бұрын
SSSSS tier doot Revanant
@coffee93154 жыл бұрын
Zero Master is what then?
@speedweed6834 жыл бұрын
You know he is Doom Guy relative
@68mudd3 жыл бұрын
@@sometffurry SSSSSSSSSSSSS*
@captainjurgh81424 жыл бұрын
Hitscanners: The Pinnacle of Perforating of your body and brain
@dnkakusei3 жыл бұрын
At least it's not Capstone
@FenrisulfrSkarr4 жыл бұрын
please turn that chaingunner red eyes thing into a clip for the memes.
@union_rt28293 жыл бұрын
When that happened it make me scared
@MrEvilbyte3 жыл бұрын
I find "Miss Tier F" is basically Tier F in most user maps as well. Many times she simply aggros everyone around her and dies to infighting.
@Moleoflands Жыл бұрын
You have to design the area around her for sure. You have to design your arena too to also either have BFG o and or prevent the player getting to very close range
@williamsmith6663 ай бұрын
That's one reason why user made maps suck..
@1mariomaniac3 күн бұрын
I've never had an issue with the Spider Mastermind, at least on Hurt Me Plenty. They take so long to realize you're there that you can easily just keep some map geometry between them and yourself and peek out to take shots.
@PeterLawrenceYT4 жыл бұрын
It was great fun working on this together! I challenge anyone watching this video to try and beat MAP22 on Nightmare!, even with saves. Good luck!
@Kikiapina4 жыл бұрын
You and decino are both good fucken doom content creators, keep up the good work bois
@Smokecall4 жыл бұрын
About the part that Nightmare being a joke, rumor has it that Romero had it added in when someone letter mailed the Id team that Ultra-Violence was too easy
@tbone94744 жыл бұрын
I'm happy beating hell revealed on ultra violence, no way I'm beating doom 2 on nightmare
@jochen42074 жыл бұрын
I can barely go through that level on Ultra Violence
@user-xq9wm8gj8y4 жыл бұрын
Pistol start is insane, i'll try that. No saves. I love how there is a difficult task you must solve, since each try is not a lot of time.
@fzysknr4 жыл бұрын
Every time decino refers to Cacodemons as "tomatoes", an angel gets their wings. ;)
@CarbonRollerCaco4 жыл бұрын
Fuzzy Skinner What about calling Pain Elementals “meatballs”?
@fzysknr4 жыл бұрын
@@CarbonRollerCaco :D
@samragsdale23014 жыл бұрын
@@fzysknr in his recent Eviternity playthrough he gets a Caco squished and calls it tomato sauce. I died
@meatballphilosopher57344 жыл бұрын
I call Cacodemons Murderous Meatballs, and Pain Elementals are Hellish Hamburgers.
@BlazingShadowSword4 жыл бұрын
@@CarbonRollerCaco That causes a demon to teleport directly in front of doom guy as he pulls the trigger on the super shotgun.
@ordersquamata9304 жыл бұрын
Nobody: Chain gunners: Y O U R F R E E T R I A L O F E X I S T I N G H A S E N D E D
@claytonpactol88514 жыл бұрын
T U R B O
@ordersquamata9304 жыл бұрын
@@okie9025 I actually don't get corrected for the use of "your" or "you're" around %90 of the time. I guess this time I was being kinda stupid with my typing. I'll go and change it.
@missingno24013 жыл бұрын
chain gunners: *you're exist no more*
@BruhMoment93_3 жыл бұрын
Not funny
@ordersquamata9303 жыл бұрын
Oof Yeet *Didn't laugh
@patcatzgames97924 жыл бұрын
Spider Mastermind: worse machine gun enemy in doom Chain Gunner: the most dangerous machine gun using enemy in the game Holy moly
@MrcreeperDXD7772 жыл бұрын
its reversed in the newer games lol
@velocilevon4 жыл бұрын
Kinda ironic how the bosses that control the demons and are the big bad dudes with what looks like rather serious weaponry are the least threatening out of all demons.
@DinnerForkTongue4 жыл бұрын
As it's said in Brazil, "he's big but he ain't two".
@vaiyt4 жыл бұрын
Nightmare! does change things a lot. Shotgunners and Zombiemen are a lot less threatening when they don't shoot you relentlessly as soon as they can see you, Cacodemon projectiles are a lot slower, Pinkies are hilariously easy to avoid, Lost Souls take their time before charging you, and so on. Plus there's the fact that many of the encounters are easier without respawning because you can take your time sniping monsters from a safer position.
@0neDoomedSpaceMarine4 жыл бұрын
Shotgun baldies are legit and appropriately nightmarish on Nightmare
@GraveUypo4 жыл бұрын
This list encapsulates the threat from the entire species. So it stands to reason that more numerous species will be a larger threat than rarer ones.
@SoldierOfFate3 жыл бұрын
It's the way Nightmare! difficulty is set. Hitscanners aren't as threatening on Ultra-Violence because they (usually) don't start opening fire on you the moment they see your ass.
@kirillassasin4 жыл бұрын
Chaingunner: SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND
@avalonpage59854 жыл бұрын
my name is heavy weapons guy
@okutem20144 жыл бұрын
@@avalonpage5985 and this is my weapon
@swagmaster476254 жыл бұрын
Avalon Page I mean, the chaingunner’s actual name (according to the gallery after Icon of Sin) is named Heavy Weapons Dude
@claytonpactol88514 жыл бұрын
Me, with a BFG9000: nope
@1mariomaniac3 күн бұрын
@@okutem2014 She weighs 150 kilograms and fires 200 dollar custom-tooled cartridges at 10,000 rounds per _minute._
@ESFAndy0114 жыл бұрын
8:18 You. Don't. *EVER* pick up a partial invisibility against a Mancubus. HUGE no-no!
@joseph_rolli4 жыл бұрын
ESFAndy011 why
@ESFAndy0114 жыл бұрын
@@joseph_rolli Because they already have a firing pattern where most of their projectiles are going to go around you when you're fully visible in an attempt to limit your dodging space. If you pick up a PI, they might miss entirely or they might increase projectiles headed straight towards you. In other words, their pattern that's already hard to read becomes even more unpredictable.
@smward872 жыл бұрын
Yup. High level Doom play is all about learning and predicting the pattern/behavior of the enemies. Partial invisibility adds an element of randomness which is the absolute last thing you want.
@crystalgoddess40852 жыл бұрын
Explains why Dead Simple annoys the hell out of me, I always instinctively pick up the Partial Invisibility, now I know why I tended to catch fireballs with my face so often. I guess I'll save them if absolutely necessary for the Arachnotrons from now on.
@stahpman6362 жыл бұрын
PI good against hitscans,but yeah,not against projectiles
@missingindy4 жыл бұрын
“These demons will make you cosplay like a piece of Swiss cheese.” Is probably the most intense quote from anything related to doom Of course it’s underneath “rip and tear until it is done”
@n00f4 жыл бұрын
Lost Souls would be brutal if they could respawn, they're already so fast.
@DinnerForkTongue4 жыл бұрын
And now I hear Heretic's gargoyles laughing in the distance.
@CRuduxypegg4 жыл бұрын
@@DinnerForkTongue Luckily heretic gargoyles bug and get stuck in place more often than not on 5th difficulty, and nothing respawns so it isn't really a comparison to doom.
@DinnerForkTongue4 жыл бұрын
@@CRuduxypegg Unless you set the "Monsters respawn" CVAR to 1. Certain ports like ZDoom allow it.
@Llortor4 жыл бұрын
If only the wall spawner made it into the actual Doom
@CRuduxypegg4 жыл бұрын
@@DinnerForkTongue yes but that's not part of heretic's 5th skill level :P. I don't even want to imagine D'sparils map with respawn on.
@SirTroglodyte3 жыл бұрын
An excellent structure, a detailed methodology and overall an awesome video! Thank you! Could not agree more with the tier list. Personally I hate arch-viles the most, but it's only due to Plutonia experiment :)
@sekibankiplays33342 жыл бұрын
Wait hold up...
@joseignaciogazzi3278 Жыл бұрын
As im still playing Master Levels...The Plutonia experiment is the next station
@dronmusicsound Жыл бұрын
Pluto is very bad. Especially hidden archies with chaingunners x(
@JM-zd6ml4 жыл бұрын
That stare on chaingunner's eyes.. Chaingunners: We're about to ruin this man's entire run.
@AlphaClip20054 жыл бұрын
5:11 - I'm not gay, but that Cyberdemon is pretty *THICC*
@meriokid64593 жыл бұрын
Doomguy is really liking that a$$.
@annihilator247x3 жыл бұрын
Go play HDoom if that's what you think
@Revelation_Mary3 жыл бұрын
true
@epicdoomguy19923 жыл бұрын
@@annihilator247x no
@humakhan803 жыл бұрын
Clap it Clap it NOW (//❍/ω/❍//)
@borismatesin4 жыл бұрын
There can be only one top boi, and of course it's the hitscanning bastard.
@pantheman28424 жыл бұрын
But in the bottom? The other hitscanning bastard.
@CarbonRollerCaco4 жыл бұрын
Παναγιωτης Κούσης Wouldn’t it be “the hitscanning bitch”? SM’s female. zOMG DOOM IZ SEXIZT
@mastermind44994 жыл бұрын
When I saw Pain Elemental in Doom Eternal trailer: NOOO GOD PLEASE NO! NO! NO! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! At least Glory kill is very fitting, just so satisfying
@somacruz86114 жыл бұрын
I think we should use chaingunners to raid area 51
@darknewbie3424 жыл бұрын
Then it’ll be Plutonia 2
@darrenmcgee67034 жыл бұрын
This maybe late but they'll be on their side so up have to do infighting
@2chill2bbored724 жыл бұрын
Use nightmare difficulty, they respawn
@thequoncher91544 жыл бұрын
*BuT ChAiNgUnNeRs ArEnT ReAl*
@sespis2r4 жыл бұрын
If we could just get a fuckton of archviles and chaingunners we could overthrow the world government
@edgartheslayer34 жыл бұрын
14:01 that close up and sounds made me laugh so hard gj
@wolf19109 Жыл бұрын
POV you see a chaingunner
@I_Punch_Demons4 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes the real nazi's of the video game world, Chaingunners. Also, the fetish dreams of the Casili brothers.
@0neDoomedSpaceMarine4 жыл бұрын
Plutonia was intended to be a real ballbuster by design, so I mean they had to make frivolous use of chaingunners, to the point of hidden archies constantly rezzing them on one or two maps. Their approach to difficulty was that they'd revise an encounter or even large parts of a level if they found it wasn't giving them a tough enough time on Ultra-Violence. Some of the encounters come off a bit cheap this way, but that was the plan.
@lyrimetacurl04 жыл бұрын
The invisible drillers in Descent were probably SS tier too.
@wisemankugelmemicus17013 жыл бұрын
🙋♀️ What about the actual Doom 2 Nazis? They're basically chaingunner imps.
@I_Punch_Demons3 жыл бұрын
In all reality, they are reskinned chaingunners.
@wisemankugelmemicus17013 жыл бұрын
@@I_Punch_Demons yes..I said that
@ShinoSarna4 жыл бұрын
14:30 I laughed when I realized you looped intro to the song to represent the monotony of dying over and over :P
@TheRealGears4 жыл бұрын
I liked the part where the skeleton says *"AAAAAAAAA"* and then the chain Gunner goes *BABABABABABABAABABBABABA*
@paolonicolacerea3 жыл бұрын
Intro - 00:00 Tier F - 01:06 Tier D - 02:59 Tier C - 03:40 Tier B - 06:57 Tier A - 09:17 Tier S - 12:22 Tier SS - 13:26 Conclusion - 14:52
@IgeNial4 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video on what Doom sourceports lack compared to vanilla Doom? And also what are the differences between Doom 1 and Doom 2 engines if there are any?
@leegsy4 жыл бұрын
There are no differences as it's the same engine. Doom II features maps that are more complex and much larger but that's only because the developers were more familiar with the engine by that point. Doom 64 is also based on the same engine. It's pretty much a copy & paste job.
@darkowl94 жыл бұрын
@@leegsy I suppose the only thing you could say is that earlier versions of each "vanilla DOS" engine had lower linedef and visplane etc. limits, which were upped in the later releases up to 1.9. I can't remember the exact specifics, but I do remember some more complex PWADs had a minimum DooM version as a result.
@decino4 жыл бұрын
Doom 1 (not Ultimate Doom) didn't have keycard-activated switches as far as I know.
@darkowl94 жыл бұрын
@@decino Ah yeah, there's some different types of linedefs between DooM 1 & 2, like fast doors. Good point.
@semvision4 жыл бұрын
Vanilla Doom has some exploitable bugs that source ports remove.
@D41k1r14 жыл бұрын
Revenant and chaingunner presentation Made me laugh hard, i'm loving the fact of peter being added to the videos, Nice commenting duo there. Keep it up decino, as always, loving your videos.
@xynxyebbln68014 жыл бұрын
ретер ргиффин
@DinnerForkTongue4 жыл бұрын
@@xynxyebbln6801 Anuuu cheeki breeki i v damke!
@hankbackofen80003 жыл бұрын
4:42 when you killed all of the barons and said I am good But you forgot the cyberdemon
@vjm34 жыл бұрын
You made a minor mistake in the video. You ranked Lost Souls as S tier, but labeled them as A tier as you showcase them. 12:49
@hershloodu89253 жыл бұрын
Wow, didn't even realize that.
@sergeyyounets87012 жыл бұрын
Ye I noticed
@Laki990004 жыл бұрын
Tier SS: [PLUTONIA EXPERIMENT INSTENSIFIES] Jokes aside, this was a great analytic video! I don't mind you being gone for a few days just because this video is a heck of a worth it!
@PrinceSilvermane4 жыл бұрын
You couldn't pay me enough to play TNT or Plutonia on Nightmare.
@serraramayfield92304 жыл бұрын
@@PrinceSilvermane Aren't those official fan packs?
@Kohchu4 жыл бұрын
Plutonia Experiment Tier list - Rank FU - Chaingunner Rank SS - Arch Vile, Revenent Rank S - Shotgunner, Mancubus, Cacodemon Rank A - Baron of Hell, Hell Knight, Pinkies, Specters Rank B - Pain Elemental, Lost Soul Rank C - Arachnotron, Cyberdemon Rank D - Imp, Gunner Rank F - Spider Mastermind, SS, Icon of Sin (Pretty sure the SS doesn't even show up in Plutonia). Reasons? Chaingunners are in every map (except Map 11), and are almost always positioned in places to catch the player off guard; they always come in groups and can shred your health away faster then you can blink sometimes. Pretty sure there are more Chaingunners in Plutonia then there are Imps in standard Doom. And due to Plutonia's backtrack like nature; you have to deal with them, CONSTANTLY. Arch Viles and Revenents are insanely common; and often appear in large groups in Plutonia; leading to a lot of problems with taking them on directly. Revenent missiles will flood the screen, dealing massive damage; and the Arch Viles will get to work reviving all the monsters you killed; and dish out hefty burst damage that you usually can't avoid (Plutonia likes Arch Vile encounters with no cover). Shotgunners are irritatingly placed; often in situations where avoiding them is almost impossible; and taking them out first is usually a non-option; so you have to deal with them. Mancubus and Cacodemons are both tanky, dish out damage; and are almost always placed at chokepoints; where the respawning enemies will constantly make your life a living hell. Barons and Hell Knights often appear in large groups in Plutonia, making their encounters much more dangerous then before; usually forcing you to dodge their projectiles like crazy. Pinkies and Specters are both A Rank because they aren't as common in Plutonia; though when they are used; getting past them is very irritating. Pain Elementals often come in pairs; and fill the area with Lost Souls really quickly. But once killed they stay dead; so that is at least a bonus. While annoying; they are probably one of the least of your worries in Plutonia. Arachnotrons are usually placed in good spots; but their large hitboxs make them easy to deal with (Though they can block you if you're not careful); but they are usually positioned out of your way. While the Cyberdemon is more common then he was in Doom 2; he's still fairly easy to deal with as long as you take note of where he is and how he's positioned in the stages. You don't HAVE to do Cyberden or Go2It so these encounters don't effect him; he also doesn't revive. Imps are not commonly found; but are usually just there to be cannon fodder, so their impact isn't as well seen. Gunners are also insanely rare; in fact they basically have been replaced with the Chaingunners entirely. The others are Rank F due to the low encounter rate, and ease of handling.
@SoldierOfFate3 жыл бұрын
@@Kohchu "Rank FU" Sounds about right because nothing says a big "F*CK YOU" to your run like a wall lowering and then 6 Chaingunners turning you into bloody ribbons within 2 seconds.
@johnsimon84574 жыл бұрын
It’d be neat to have an engine mod that shows where everyone died on each map alá Mario Maker
@clonefighter19963 жыл бұрын
Also ala Doom 2016, perhaps?
@budge30353 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if pc has this but on ps4 I can see the bodies from other players
@SoldierOfFate3 жыл бұрын
@@budge3035 PC does indeed have this feature, but it's exclusive to the Ultra Nightmare difficulty.
@Moleoflands2 жыл бұрын
Just be pile in front of the chaingunners
@franktidepod87244 жыл бұрын
Doomguy: *exists* NM Chaingunner: *_"I diagnose you with dead."_*
@the1stwing4 жыл бұрын
An explanation I pulled from Game FAQs to help answer the question of Cyberdemon vs Spider Mastermind: Main factors are range, height differences, and any possible cover. Secondary factors are down to how frequently either enemy enters its pain states and/or even bothers to attack. A feature which automatically gives the Spider Mastermind something of an advantage is the fact that it is resistant to rockets; it will only take impact damage from a direct hit, and is unaffected by any explosions; even the 'splash damage' from a direct hit has no effect. Assuming the terrain is perfectly flat with no cover, at a fixed range: At longer ranges, Cyberdemons will always win; a Spider Mastermind just locks on and fires like there's no tomorrow, in spite of being too far away to be effective. It leaves itself open to just take a string of rockets while missing with most (if not all) of its own shots. Medium range is a toss-up; Spider Masterminds once again just sit still and blaze away, but the closer proximity guarantees a higher successful hit ratio. In turn this causes a Cyberdemon to be interrupted via pain states, something which works against it. Short range is, more often than not, a pushover for the Spider Mastermind. Most hitscans will connect, leaving the Cyberdemon with little to no chance of retaliating successfully.
@makhauser424 жыл бұрын
Surprised and happy to see Caco that high. And heavy weapon dude laughs in Plutonian, they are a real hell
@ADR694 жыл бұрын
decino and Peter "you technically only need 1% health" Slayer teaming up. what a time to be alive.
@Mephisto288904 жыл бұрын
9:42 They made the same shutter in Doom3 - maybe as a reference? I was like - hey, stop, you know that thing, just in another game.
@ProtoBlueGaming2 жыл бұрын
*Chaingunner roar* *CHAINGUN INTENSIFIES* Your absolute worst nightmare.
@nibblrrr71244 жыл бұрын
The reveals feel very Pokédex-y. Love it! :3 1:26 7:43
@ziomccall40854 жыл бұрын
13:59 pure evil in few seconds.
@Itsprincesweets4 жыл бұрын
5:10 damn the cyberdemon's dummy thicc, i wonder how much he can deadlift
@oDisasterpieceO8743 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie that "AAAAHHHH" jpg when the revenant was revealed got me pretty good.
@ShinoSarna4 жыл бұрын
According to Doom Wiki, there are 27(!) Spectres in Map19 - I imagine most of them are in the outskirts area.
@RealRushinRussian4 жыл бұрын
Checked in editor, the answer is 25. Jeez.
@spaceresident3314 жыл бұрын
...You could activate that crusher on m6 before killing the spider mastermind? Oh my god I feel so stupid now.
@tokyobassist4 жыл бұрын
Chaingun dude is the beefiest aimbot ever made. All you can say is "I can't see shit" and something to the effect of "I'm dead".
@loganandrews31214 жыл бұрын
Everyone: *Legit talking about the demons and strats/nightmare memes* Me: 11:14 *DEEP INHALE.... SLAPS A TABLE!* FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE SAID CACODEMONS ARE CUTE!!!!
@frozenhawk1504 жыл бұрын
A.
@LisaTigressHardy3 жыл бұрын
Cacodemons are my favorite demons in DOOM. If there was DOOM merch, I think Cacodemons would make the best most comfy pillows ever, espeically giant ones! And if they made the eye on them glow like when they spit their firealls would be so awesome too!
@itsumbree2 Жыл бұрын
@@LisaTigressHardy I'd play millions for a Cacodemon plushie.
@aquajet28174 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna go ahead right now and say the SS tier belongs to the Wolfenstein Nazi
@DinnerForkTongue4 жыл бұрын
Nailed it :P
@serraramayfield92304 жыл бұрын
@Absolute Zero Didn't capitalize "Leben" smh :P
@BLOXMASTER9194 жыл бұрын
schutzstaffel!
@coffee93154 жыл бұрын
Mein Leben is a lie then?
@mjc09614 жыл бұрын
6:21 - *BARNEY, NOOOOO!* 🤣 I love that this made it into the video.
@dawnh4 жыл бұрын
10:36 Doomguy: *dies* Revenant: yes, it is i, the mighty dooter who has defeated the doomguy
@brandyncouch32263 жыл бұрын
The ego you gave it made me think of Papyrus from Undertale.
@Shenorai2 жыл бұрын
One of my fonder memories of Doom II is watching my Dad play the Playstation version. Granted, he was disappointed in how they didn't have as many secrets as other versions, but he still thoroughly enjoyed kicking ass. He had a few nicknames for the demons, too. Imps were "crinkle-crinks" due to the noise they made. Pinkies were "bulls". Specters were "invisi-bulls" because Dad jokes. I think the Barons and Cyberdemons were just "minotaurs" and "cooler minotaurs", but it's been awhile XD
@stagefatality4 жыл бұрын
Heh...Imp Encounter. How long has it been since that spawned on the net?
@Llortor4 жыл бұрын
Better question is how long has it been since it stopped grossing us out lol
@SoldierOfFate3 жыл бұрын
@@Llortor Far too long. Mainly because we've all been desensitized by far more nasty crap drifting around on the web.
@majamystic2564 жыл бұрын
for me Chaingunners, Shotgun guys, Former Humans, Pain elementals, and Lost souls are generally the most annoying enemies to deal with on nightmare. especially the hitscanner zombie type enemies... they are the reason I can't beat nightmare mode saveless. They all respawn too fast, and drain my health more than any other demon combined on nightmare.
@ceskaapokalypsa.cz.2 жыл бұрын
11:44 Pain elemental shooting to the wall.
@pcksp41354 жыл бұрын
9:36 Peter narrates a documentary.
@Sizifus4 жыл бұрын
Who would win: One massive cyber thick boy? Or Many Lost boyz?
@davideogamer79104 жыл бұрын
nah only one lost boi (the glitch in his fight)
@kaledmarrero10113 жыл бұрын
Lost souls. Cuz Civvie 11 hates them.
@jsd19824 жыл бұрын
Yes! I was getting nervous not seeing decino in my subs list for 2 whole days.
@buna-gf8ku4 жыл бұрын
10:11 didn't see that one coming
@leemil20022 жыл бұрын
Thank you for retroactively adding in the chapters to videos.
@thischannelwillcomeback18593 жыл бұрын
he forgot commander keen, we need to know how strong he is
@JakZie4 жыл бұрын
To not just repeat my endless praise for those videos, I really appreciate time and effort put into montage, clear presentation, clear sound of your voice(s) and last but not least, the well-made subtitles.
@skylo7064 жыл бұрын
I once played a troll mod that changed stuff in the original levels. The cyberdemon was replaced with a chaingunner with equal health as the cyberdemon... Yikes!
@Linksmasher4 жыл бұрын
I love that edit on 10:10, is pure gold. Also, I love your content because I love Classic Doom and of course, every Doom game so far.
@turrican38394 жыл бұрын
Pain Elementals in Doom 64 are significantly worse, because they have 2 mouths this time which can spawn 2 lost souls and the lost souls in Doom 64 are much faster and deal more damage.
@carmenjuarez10344 жыл бұрын
Decino:There actually aren't that many hell knight encounters in doom 2 that are considered dangerous Doom 2 no rest for the living:well yes but actually no
@AnnieC.19934 жыл бұрын
And things like this are why I stick to "Hurt me plenty." Edit: Ok I've actually completed ultra violence at this point on episodes 1-3 but still screw nightmare Edit 2: I've almost completed doom 2 on ultra-violence. : ) Edit 3: Either I am still pathetic or the execution of the Icon of wall is just bad, but I completed doom 2 on ultra-violence with the exception of map 32 and map 30.
@GraveUypo4 жыл бұрын
ultra violence + fast monster for me. i can't deal with not being able to kill everything in a level. completely ignore that nightmare even exists.
@doomslayer67243 жыл бұрын
I play ultra violence with no speedy sonic demons, to hard doomguy says.
@JJ-zs4cw4 жыл бұрын
10:11 when you don't have a such voice but you step on a Lego
@Tyrian3k Жыл бұрын
14:41: 178% health and 89% armor. 3 seconds later: Dead.
@456antoabc2 жыл бұрын
Do Plutonia next ! This list is awesome. I struggle with chain gunners the most in doom II when they ambush me, it's usually a losing DPS battle
@miguelzavaleta19114 жыл бұрын
Amazing content, Decino. I really love these analysis videos.
@MinscFromBaldursGate924 жыл бұрын
F tier: Spider Mastermind, Icon of Sin. D tier: Hell Knight, SS trooper. C tier: Imp, Cyberdemon, Arachnotron, Archvile, Pinky. B tier: Zombieman, Hell Baron, Mancubus, Spectre. A tier: Shotgunner, Revenant, Cacodemon. S tier: Pain Elemental, Lost Soul. SS Tier: Chaingunner.
@nowaywithyoueveragai4 жыл бұрын
Where is the hanging commander keen???? P.s: anyone stating that chaingunner isn't the most deadly foe in nightmare mode will reveal he hasn't played vanilla DooM.
@lizichell24 жыл бұрын
Why am I not surprised that hit scanners are high tier enemies
@flaerds82344 жыл бұрын
"These Chainginners want nothing more than to make you cosplay as a piece of Swiss cheese" holy F another nice video this channel is amazing
@Stingrays1104 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Love these kinds of videos from you!
@yesimforreal86552 жыл бұрын
1:14 SPIDER MASTERMIND 2:33 ICON OF SIN 2:59 HELL KNIGHT 3:41 IMP 4:19 CYBERDEMON 5:18 ARACHNOTRON 5:43 ARCHVILE 6:24 PINKY 6:58 ZOMBIE MAN 7:43 BARON OF HELL 8:01 MANCUBUS 8:34 SPECTER 9:17 SHOTGUNER 10:09 ☠REVANENT☠ 11:09 CACO DEMON 12:20 PAIN ELEMENTAL 12:45 LOST SOUL 13:27 SS NAZI 13:56🔥 *CHAINGUNER* 🔥
@darkravenbest89704 жыл бұрын
12:23 Them Bones? Good choice for describing the most hateful beings.
@Sanshahashattan4 жыл бұрын
I was having such a shitty night due to a lot of problems but the Wolfenstein "mein leben!" joke made me laugh for the entire rest of the video! T'was so good I'm going to sub right now.
@HudsonAO8TQ14 жыл бұрын
Great video! Agree with the list, very well thought out. Hilarious commentary especially about the cruising shotgun guys and the chaingun gangbang with revenants shooting at your head.
@connorgolsong2902 жыл бұрын
The joke about the SS officers was absolutely hilarious. Bravo, Decino.
@wizard_41944 жыл бұрын
13:59 Accurate representation of all Plutonia levels.
@harcoremonkey Жыл бұрын
Man you shoud totally do a tier list on Doom I & II music. Great video!
@LumbridgeTeleport4 жыл бұрын
Very well presented and laid out. Enjoyable video thank you
@gigamoumantai26964 жыл бұрын
14:00 *TF2 Heavy Intensifies*
@Noirz3n4 жыл бұрын
Joel's nightmare.... 5:43
@SaltyFarzi3 жыл бұрын
Good work guys, even though I don't do speed runs, I think it's interesting to watch and know where monsters stand for the brave fools who choose to do these runs.
@finneganjensen63514 жыл бұрын
13:06 Talking about DOOM. “And will make your life a living heck” _Heck._