Dr. Phil Interviews Jeffrey Dahmer’s Father - Part 2

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Dr. Phil

Dr. Phil

Жыл бұрын

What creates a monster? As the popular new Netflix series Dahmer - Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story pushes the heinous crimes of the notorious serial killer back into the spotlight, what can we learn about what may have made him the evil he was? Do chilling home videos of Jeffrey Dahmer as a little boy show an innocent child before he became evil? Or, were the signs already there? His parents reveal the red flags they say they missed. (21315)
Check out Part 1 of Dr. Phil Interviewing Jeffrey Dahmer's Father here:
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@rosesavocado8557
@rosesavocado8557 Жыл бұрын
The fact that he forgives his son - a cannibal, murderer, the monster of Milwaukee… But not himself… That is just so sad. I can’t imagine what it’s like for him. The guilt, the grief. It must be absolutely awful - especially now with the documentary that came out, reliving everything. Also props for the stepmom. She didn’t even birth Jeffrey, yet she speaks of him as if he is her blood. Imagine your stepson doing these disgusting things and you still consider him your son.
@jasmine.singss
@jasmine.singss Жыл бұрын
It is heartbreaking. raising, loving and caring for your child. imagine thinking of the moments he spent with him at a young age. it’s so sad to think about it. must be so hard when so many people also blame the parent for forgiving the son. but at the end of the day that was his child that he loved and cared for
@britawater9640
@britawater9640 10 ай бұрын
Forgive, but not forget.
@shaylaforever9048
@shaylaforever9048 3 ай бұрын
I would have divorced him.
@rameshthevarajan
@rameshthevarajan 3 ай бұрын
​@britawater9640 this is not scriptures....trash ended up murdered in prison...people don't like serial killers or rapists...cheers..
@genellecampbell3968
@genellecampbell3968 Ай бұрын
Yes! That’s the actual definition of love. ❤
@irisolivas2199
@irisolivas2199 Жыл бұрын
I can’t imagine the grief this man has gone through. The grief of finding out his son did these horrible things to real people. The grief of having a serial killer for a son. The grief of then losing your son because you can’t just automatically stop loving your kid, you love them for what they once were, your baby.
@thomasg-elin5412
@thomasg-elin5412 11 ай бұрын
Every killer got a father.
@ctw7833
@ctw7833 11 ай бұрын
And?
@hugoramirez6698
@hugoramirez6698 7 ай бұрын
@@thomasg-elin5412But not every father got a killer.
@thomasg-elin5412
@thomasg-elin5412 6 ай бұрын
@@hugoramirez6698 Every father have a potential killer as a child.
@GarrettHampton2004
@GarrettHampton2004 6 ай бұрын
@@thomasg-elin5412no they don’t, misguided children are, not regular children
@luciverdad4834
@luciverdad4834 Жыл бұрын
Bless Lionel Dahmer. He loved his son unconditionally and tried to help. He didn't know the extent of his son's issues and learned the details of his crimes with the rest of the world during the trial. He wrote a great book trying to analyze Jeffrey's behavior and where things could've gone wrong. Even in this video he is still trying to process what happened and make sense of it all.
@kariann3198
@kariann3198 Жыл бұрын
He did not he’s a sociopath and created corrupted abused Dahmer He has ASPD+NPD
@jackchop1576
@jackchop1576 Жыл бұрын
Yaaas queen! Maybe if Jeffy met a white straight girl like you, he wouldn't be a murderer or homosexual! 🙄🙄
@ariannaclearday
@ariannaclearday Жыл бұрын
He raised his son to be what he was.
@jocelynn8934
@jocelynn8934 Жыл бұрын
@@ariannaclearday there are many many many factors that go into someone growing up to be this messed up. He was a child of fetal alcohol syndrome and was drug addicted from birth because of his mother. That plays more into his brain development than an absent working father. Do your research before you make an ignorant comment. I’ve seen true crime stories of people that grow up extremely loved, cared for, and taken care of in every aspect and need. That still end up being murderers. Finding the human in a monster like Jeffery dahmer doesn’t make you forget or ignore the horrific crimes he committed. It simple makes you a better smarter human for doing so. The brain is the most complicated thing in the universe. Watch a documentary buddy it might do you some good when writing your next comment. 😂
@berrybliss8184
@berrybliss8184 Жыл бұрын
Ikr
@ReturnOfTheJ.D.
@ReturnOfTheJ.D. Жыл бұрын
The victim's sister who is friends with Dahmer's parents is a great person. A very fine human being.
@IzzaPlays
@IzzaPlays Жыл бұрын
Who was the victim?
@ReturnOfTheJ.D.
@ReturnOfTheJ.D. Жыл бұрын
@@IzzaPlays Eddie Smith.
@IzzaPlays
@IzzaPlays Жыл бұрын
@@ReturnOfTheJ.D. thank you
@user-en6zl1cm5r
@user-en6zl1cm5r Жыл бұрын
@@ReturnOfTheJ.D. You mean the victim that was appearing on various talk shows in drag pretending to be his sister? Eddie/Carolyn and Theresa sure put on a good show. That's for sure.
@jojomohamed6977
@jojomohamed6977 Жыл бұрын
She's weird
@itsmelili326
@itsmelili326 Жыл бұрын
I admire his courage to be so candid, take some accountability and ask for forgiveness. That's a good man.
@ManplansGodlaughs
@ManplansGodlaughs Жыл бұрын
You call someone who sexually abused his own child, a child, a good man? Um OK.
@elliottrichardson8213
@elliottrichardson8213 Жыл бұрын
@@ManplansGodlaughs except there’s been zero proof of this lol the old guilty until proven innocent trick
@itsmelili326
@itsmelili326 Жыл бұрын
@@ManplansGodlaughs I didn't know that. Maybe I missed that part. 🤔
@itsmelili326
@itsmelili326 Жыл бұрын
@@ManplansGodlaughs All I could find is that a neighbor did that. Where did you get that info?
@lbrncatsgmailcom
@lbrncatsgmailcom Жыл бұрын
There is no real evidence that Lionel sexually abused his own son. But both he and his wife brought up Jeff with no attention or interest in his day to day life. They are guilty of abandonment. Although I do not doubt their love for him
@vanessa.94
@vanessa.94 Жыл бұрын
It is so wrong trying to find faults in Lionel! Jeff said himself the only person to blame for his actions was Jeff only and no one else!
@rafsun9365
@rafsun9365 Жыл бұрын
I feel so sorry for the victims and Jeffrey's parents
@shawnasweeney7785
@shawnasweeney7785 Жыл бұрын
I don’t feel bad for Jeffrey. Many people grow up in dysfunctional environments, but they do not rape, sexually torture, murder & cannibalize boys and young men. He deserves ZERO sympathy!
@addylovesyou1960
@addylovesyou1960 Жыл бұрын
@someonee well said
@jamesszabo2470
@jamesszabo2470 Жыл бұрын
I agree. His father obviously loved him and as a parent he did what needed to be done to support his family. Unfortunately, in this country, you have to lose out on time with your kids and give it to work just to put food on the table. His grief is justified just like any parent who loses their child, even though Jeffrey did horrifying things.
@meganmose
@meganmose Жыл бұрын
@@someonee4989 sorry that is excuse, I was with Narcs my relatives but not going to kill people
@manderz1627
@manderz1627 Жыл бұрын
@@meganmose Jeffrey Dahmer was not a narcissist but someone with severe serious psychiatric illness mixed with being intoxicated %99 of the time. Narcs do not accept they are insane or sick. Jeffrey wanted to know why he was so sick and wished to be stopped. He wasn’t racist as he picked all races and was very remorseful and accepted the hatred of his victims families.
@sbrensbeve3265
@sbrensbeve3265 Жыл бұрын
Parenthood is such a fascinating thing... He forgave his son, the one that did all those horrible things, years ago... But he is still not able to fully forgive himself despite all the time that past and despite the fact that he's not the one who made these acts...
@Add_Account485
@Add_Account485 Жыл бұрын
Yes.. Because what is a parent?
@Dire_Hit
@Dire_Hit Жыл бұрын
Well that's because there are actually some parents who take responsibility for the way their kids turn out. Unless it was a genetic issue that caused his son to go bad then he should feel a little bad.
@asniffer6532
@asniffer6532 Жыл бұрын
@@Dire_Hit Well they take responsability because IT'S their fault. Childhood and teenage years is when your brain is developing and picking signals and some people are more sensible than others and needs more help, which is clear, Jeffrey had any.
@irrelevanttwat
@irrelevanttwat Жыл бұрын
Nature and nurture plays the role in developing brain so theyre definetely at fault on some level
@damondriver6363
@damondriver6363 Жыл бұрын
​@@irrelevanttwat I'd love to hear your facts on what they did to help cause this. Let's here em
@PrincessPineapple92
@PrincessPineapple92 Жыл бұрын
This makes me sad .. it's giving me anxiety. Seeing him as a yougin then going into what he became is an absolutely horrific thing to witness.
@redsoxhater424
@redsoxhater424 Жыл бұрын
it's hard to accept Jeff a little boy.. and later doing those horrible things.. Serial killers at one point were children..
@wendyussrey6010
@wendyussrey6010 Жыл бұрын
I feel so sorry for Lionel, he’s done the best he could in this awful situation. I mean, Try to put yourself in his place, can you even imagine? May God bless all of his victims, victims families and his family❤️
@maple6894
@maple6894 Жыл бұрын
Watch Dahmer, he’s not a great guy.
@kariann3198
@kariann3198 Жыл бұрын
He did the best he could to look like a good father when he abused and corrupted Dahmer he has ASPD+NPD factor 2 sociopathy
@IHateEverythingInIife
@IHateEverythingInIife Жыл бұрын
@@maple6894 we know that
@maple6894
@maple6894 Жыл бұрын
@@IHateEverythingInIife I wasnt talking to you?
@Batman-lg2zj
@Batman-lg2zj Жыл бұрын
Dahmer isn’t all the way there and leave that man alone.
@TheEmj1986
@TheEmj1986 Жыл бұрын
Imagine being a parent of a serial killer, how would one feel if we were in his father's shoes. Must be beyond devastating 😢 💔
@bursegsardaukar
@bursegsardaukar 9 ай бұрын
Japanese child serial killer, Tsutumo Miyazaki's father committed suicide out of shame.
@Theintrovertednow
@Theintrovertednow 5 ай бұрын
I think i be torn from loving the child but feel disgust at the same
@berrybliss8184
@berrybliss8184 Жыл бұрын
Honestly l respect Lionel for even coming on and answering questions you can tell how much he loved his son its such a difficult thing to see the way an innocent child grew to do the things he did. I agree with what he said about a continuum. It’s almost as if he hasn’t ever come to terms with what has happened, bless him I hope he’s doing okay
@drama2u
@drama2u 3 ай бұрын
He died recently.
@berrybliss8184
@berrybliss8184 3 ай бұрын
@@drama2u yeah I know.. he didn’t look well. Shame, but atleast he isn’t suffering anymore.
@jasmine.singss
@jasmine.singss Жыл бұрын
it must be so hard being the parents of a serial killer. like imagine raising this child to find out he commuted these murders. so sad for the victims, their families and the parents 🙁
@strawbolita
@strawbolita Жыл бұрын
Lionel has shown nothing but love and grace for both the victims and their families and his son. I really hope he continues to do well
@lbrncatsgmailcom
@lbrncatsgmailcom Жыл бұрын
I don't know how Lionel can be doing well knowing what his son did. How does it not haunt him every minute of his waking hours
@drama2u
@drama2u 3 ай бұрын
He passed away 11 months after his wife died.
@nooknook710
@nooknook710 Жыл бұрын
Is it just me or done he give off the same nonchalant demeanor as his son
@jacklenetaylor6864
@jacklenetaylor6864 Жыл бұрын
He does
@nathalielindberg3267
@nathalielindberg3267 Жыл бұрын
Yes, he sounds both cold and nonchalant.
@AJEditz12
@AJEditz12 Жыл бұрын
By this time he had done these interviews a million times and repeated the same stories over and over again. So it's not surprising why he seems this way.
@orlandoyero7151
@orlandoyero7151 Жыл бұрын
They probably talk alike but the old man probably dead inside cmon he's never hurt no one
@trainingrifle
@trainingrifle Жыл бұрын
Dahmer wasn’t that bad of a dude
@bestillandknow8290
@bestillandknow8290 Жыл бұрын
I feel bad that people want to blame his parents for not noticing- who thinks their child is a serial killer? Especially with his parents of their age.
@Niyasutton
@Niyasutton Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@yosi8246
@yosi8246 Жыл бұрын
If they had paid more attention to thier son and not allow him to see or do anything that a kid shouldn’t this never would’ve happened. The only reason he killed his first victim was because he felt lonely and he felt that way because of…….. his parents.
@edenredeemed
@edenredeemed Жыл бұрын
@@yosi8246 Billions of people have felt lonely and much worse and never murdered anyone because of it. If his parents are responsible at all it’s less than 1%
@8luvbug
@8luvbug Жыл бұрын
@@yosi8246 that's an excuse to go out and kill people? Got it
@yosi8246
@yosi8246 Жыл бұрын
@@8luvbug it’s not an excuse I’m just saying it’s not Jeff’s fault
@elisamastromarino7123
@elisamastromarino7123 Жыл бұрын
I've read all the books, including Lionel Dahmer's and I still believe that a lot of Jeffreys problem at puberty grew out of a mental illness inherited from his mentally ill mother, coupled with the pills she took during her pregnancy. I remember having really dark thoughts when I was about the same age as Jeff did - around 12 -13. I don't remember wanting to kill anyone or thing outside of myself but I did feel strange and suicidal. Now, looking back I realise it was depression probably brought on by hormones etc. So, to me, the part of Jeff's puberty that was abnormal was where his thoughts took him. His took him outside of himself, and I think that's a chemical aberration that was born out of both nature (moms pills) and nurture. (Her leaving him and taking his brother.) His mom was so odd. I think it affected him a great deal. I believe a thing like that at a time like that, was like waving a red cape at an enraged bull. Huge red flag.
@missb6064
@missb6064 Жыл бұрын
She took the brother n left when Jeff was 18 though right? Not the same
@jmfia2391
@jmfia2391 Жыл бұрын
I call bs. He was just sick.
@smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724
@smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724 Жыл бұрын
She abandoned him. Take one child and not the other!!? You know the message that had to have sent Jeff.
@Gatagin777
@Gatagin777 Жыл бұрын
@@jmfia2391 call bs all you want it was a perfectly reasonable perspective with actual depth unlike your pointless comment.
@gregorycarlson6632
@gregorycarlson6632 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely right!!👍
@Loves2laugh15
@Loves2laugh15 Жыл бұрын
It is such a tragic situation. I feel so much sorrow for the victims and their families and I also feel sad for Jeff and his family. Seeing him as a kid hits home that at one point he was an innocent kid. So tragic.
@sickasman7598
@sickasman7598 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you... I feel like a lot of people don't really like to show that sorrowfulness towards jeff because of the circumstances, but tbh I really cant help but feel it ya know?
@84zee
@84zee 4 ай бұрын
The enormity of his crimes is shockingly staggering and devastating - involving cannibalism, carrying a human head in a backpack, and actually cooking and consuming human flesh. This behavior goes beyond insanity. It's not surprising that people find it difficult to forget, as such stories are not encountered every day. The details are extremely disturbing and almost unbelievable
@patdoty788
@patdoty788 Жыл бұрын
kudos to this guy for doing interviews still
@chrystal.clairtv7532
@chrystal.clairtv7532 Жыл бұрын
I would have liked to hear dr. Phil's opinion regarding the outcome of that 'so-called insanity trial'.. All the mental health experts involved had different perspectives on Jeffrey's sanity
@user-qu4vt7sh7b
@user-qu4vt7sh7b Жыл бұрын
Both father and son speak identically it's insane
@drama2u
@drama2u 3 ай бұрын
They remind me and my ex and his father.
@amyrodgers4252
@amyrodgers4252 8 ай бұрын
I can't imagine how much greif, guilt and utter horror Lionel and his wife felt when they first learnt what their own son did. They must've been wondering and trying so hard to figure out what they did wrong when raising him since that.
@bz3105
@bz3105 5 ай бұрын
As a father myself, I don't see how a parent ever really gets the wind back in their sails after something like this, at least not totally.
@donnacaldwell3267
@donnacaldwell3267 Жыл бұрын
You don’t just “go into a period of extreme shyness.” Something happened to that kid.
@ShyerLady
@ShyerLady Жыл бұрын
Adriana Lima was extremely shy. Shyness is just what it is.
@donnacaldwell3267
@donnacaldwell3267 Жыл бұрын
@@ShyerLady Sometimes, but not this way. I myself “suddenly became shy,” according to my parents. They didn’t know Id been molested.
@ShyerLady
@ShyerLady Жыл бұрын
@@donnacaldwell3267 Yea true. Sorry to hear that bless your heart.
@whatsmyname9977
@whatsmyname9977 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU
@jayxfrost8987
@jayxfrost8987 Жыл бұрын
@@donnacaldwell3267 he was diagnosed with BPD and STPD... specially STPD is also behavioral disorder.
@miladbarikani3591
@miladbarikani3591 11 ай бұрын
these episodes of dr phil is more than pure art
@goodgolly4726
@goodgolly4726 Жыл бұрын
Jesus Dr Phil just bursting at the end there made me jump
@soul76can
@soul76can 8 ай бұрын
His father is as much a victim as the families of the murder victims are also victims. It is just a sad, tragic tale. I can't even imagine the horrible guilt and pain his father has had to also endure from all of this.
@mittern_love
@mittern_love Жыл бұрын
The parents dropped the ball. Lionel was a coward not to confront Jeff early on about the numerous red flags and warning signs.
@Satsusss
@Satsusss Жыл бұрын
I agree
@lbrncatsgmailcom
@lbrncatsgmailcom Жыл бұрын
I don't know why Lionel dissected those animals with his son and showed him how to use acid on them. It left a big impression on Jeff
@koenakiggy9353
@koenakiggy9353 10 ай бұрын
And after him being arrested he was there like the boy was innocent I don't like this old man
@zaneplatt3533
@zaneplatt3533 2 ай бұрын
This is such a grade school level comment that blatantly lacks basic understanding.
@Oozy9Millimeetah
@Oozy9Millimeetah 25 күн бұрын
Yeah red flags you know there's millions of kids showing red flags on daily basis and less than 0.0001% of them will ever become killers, not to mention serial killers. It's always easy to point finger in retrospect, but just as a warning you will be judged by the words you have spoken. Your own measurements will be used against you.
@gregorycarlson6632
@gregorycarlson6632 Жыл бұрын
It is absolutely ridiculous to expect Lionel Dahmer to apologize for what his son did!! Any of us who have raised children to adulthood know that we can’t control the acts of adult children!! Jeffrey himself “owned it” with regard to his acts. He specifically said “It wasn’t anyone else’s fault. It was me. I was the problem!” So why do people want to blame Jeffrey’s parents for what he did?? I’m a professional who has been in the “people business “ for many years . Dr. Phil, you should know better than to shift the blame!!🤔
@JuanPabloBerthoud
@JuanPabloBerthoud Жыл бұрын
Can anyone else see that the father is only describing what is seen in the family reel? It's like he's literally narrating from a scrip made for the reel, there's actually no personal account of any particular detail of his entire childhood, all he's saying are the typical thing that people play to pretend to. Nothing happens in a vacuum, and the father is not owning anything, "Jeff" now was an entire Angel and only was "off" when OTHER people seem him doing so, never in from of their parents. come on. He never laid a hand on him and he regrets it? Really, cause everyone got spanked at least once back in the day. He's lying and hiding the truth like a good Narcissist parent do.
@claudettewright365
@claudettewright365 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Someone here with some common sense! Plus, he was abusive to Joyce! He’s definitely hiding something.
@briarrose29
@briarrose29 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! I think there’s some deep family secrets.
@GENERALWACKASS
@GENERALWACKASS Жыл бұрын
Ive always had an issue with his projection
@veezienhamoruhwande99
@veezienhamoruhwande99 Жыл бұрын
True, and he once said he had thoughts of killing people
@shan22777
@shan22777 Жыл бұрын
ive read his book and youre right, in this interview he barely says anything but in the book he admits to helping jeff decompose animals and save their bones etc
@MidnightBitesCarly
@MidnightBitesCarly 3 ай бұрын
The fact Lionel can forgive Jeffrey but not himself is wild 😢
@amandacarmel6084
@amandacarmel6084 Жыл бұрын
This whole story makes me sad for everyone involved including Jeffrey. I just hope every victim is in heaven
@FeelTheLack
@FeelTheLack Жыл бұрын
why wouldn't they be?
@amandacarmel6084
@amandacarmel6084 Жыл бұрын
@@FeelTheLack bc not everyone goes to heaven…
@Count_Apollyon5
@Count_Apollyon5 Жыл бұрын
Phil why you looking like that ? 😂 3:02 Lionel look like Gene Wilder
@svetakus5338
@svetakus5338 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@47nrubreddew
@47nrubreddew Жыл бұрын
😄😄😄
@sevenbelledays7800
@sevenbelledays7800 Жыл бұрын
Seeing that old footage of J D childhood hurts...like how could an innocent looking kid could've turned into that bastard, how's humanity going to end up like... how would it be if his father didn't encourage that behaviour thinking it was inoffensive, would the victims have a change to be alive if he would have gotten help in the past? These type of things are just so unbelievable
@lYl93
@lYl93 Жыл бұрын
They all seem fake and lacking emotional depth, even Jeff as a child.
@shrutefarms4741
@shrutefarms4741 Жыл бұрын
I have great empathy for his father. Anyone in the world would crumble over the weight of this.
@badgurl5758
@badgurl5758 8 ай бұрын
If you compare the father’s interviews vrs the mother, he takes accountability of his parenting compared to the mother. It was claimed the mother had seizures during her pregnacy and was given extreme medicine from the dr during a home visit. Yes back when dr’s came to your house. Everything was different back then but the mommy takes this as “blame’’ and denies it ever happened. Its not about blame, its seeking answers, warning signs missed and what can help others not to do with their own child.
@turnovertheleaf5505
@turnovertheleaf5505 Жыл бұрын
Sociopaths are made, not born. Parents, spend time with your kids!
@FemmeBaer
@FemmeBaer Жыл бұрын
A human being is so much more complex than just one's chilhood or relationships with guardians
@KidsWithGuns1992
@KidsWithGuns1992 Ай бұрын
They are born, too.
@sarahuber8567
@sarahuber8567 Ай бұрын
Your comment is ignorant.
@Typon
@Typon Ай бұрын
sociopaths are born that way or are predestined to be that, but childhood trauma associated with sociopathy can lead to become a serial killer.
@desserteyes6978
@desserteyes6978 13 күн бұрын
@@KidsWithGuns1992they aren’t born. They are created
@crazyloopyloulou
@crazyloopyloulou Жыл бұрын
Asking for the victims to forgive Jeffrey is not fair. He didn't pay for what he did. He boasted about what he did showing no remorse causing another inmate to kill him!
@Riina77
@Riina77 Жыл бұрын
He wanted to die. That's why he taunted the other inmates, so that they would kill him. He could have served his whole sentence in segregation, but he wanted to go to general population even when everyone told him not to do that or he would be killed. But that's what he wanted.
@cmr_77
@cmr_77 Жыл бұрын
You forgive to set yourself free... it's not about the other person who hurt you but about your personal freedom
@adamr8628
@adamr8628 8 ай бұрын
Forgiveness is for the victims benefit. It doesn't mean that anything that happened was ok.
@alexlazzerly3677
@alexlazzerly3677 8 ай бұрын
I think it's totally fair tot ask them for forgiveness. It's also fair for the victims to choose not to.
@adamr8628
@adamr8628 8 ай бұрын
@@alexlazzerly3677 True. And people that refuse to forgive are doing a dis-service to themselves. Because forgiveness is an extremely healing thing to do. It's not easy but its very important. Forgiveness doesn't have to do anything for the perpetrator. You don't even need to tell that person. Forgiveness is entirely about the victim getting to move on.
@CHUMPTYTRUMPTY
@CHUMPTYTRUMPTY 5 ай бұрын
4:36 "Jeff was happy because there was a lot of things to eat."😱
@luvhim
@luvhim 2 ай бұрын
A lot of hearts to eat
@nikolamitrovic9484
@nikolamitrovic9484 9 ай бұрын
honestly i still cant believe that that happend
@paulagilliam2736
@paulagilliam2736 Жыл бұрын
Not sure lionel has really accepted how sick his son was
@Niyasutton
@Niyasutton Жыл бұрын
It’s hard to picture ur kid killing people in that way especially. I could see why if Thts the case
@We_Are_All_Vultures
@We_Are_All_Vultures Жыл бұрын
I agree
@boydownunder007
@boydownunder007 Жыл бұрын
absolutely agree. i wonder why Jeff's mom has not been interviewed - I blame her more that anyone for Jeffs demise she just abandoned Jeff Lionel was there too much and that imbalance made Jeff want men more than woman
@Randaronii
@Randaronii Жыл бұрын
I figured this when he was the one who refused to let scientists explore his brain post autopsy. they wanted to figure out what could have made him sick but he probably used Jeffrey wanting his body to be buried as a whole as an excuse to not find out how sick he was (considering it would have been cremated anyway and could have been put together after)
@ermesdistefano5322
@ermesdistefano5322 Жыл бұрын
@@boydownunder007 Because she’s dead. She died in 2000 from cancer.
@mklztrbytd
@mklztrbytd Жыл бұрын
“May god forgive you, but I won’t”
@ehrlich_
@ehrlich_ Жыл бұрын
Simp
@kittymeyw8299
@kittymeyw8299 Жыл бұрын
7:18 he doesn't look happy. His smile doesn't reach his eyes at all and his mouth stays flat at the ends with no curve. He's forcing a smile already.
@TheRealNiko
@TheRealNiko 11 ай бұрын
Just like most people when asked to smile for a photo
@sew161
@sew161 Жыл бұрын
His face is so emotionless, like Jeffs
@vanessa.94
@vanessa.94 Жыл бұрын
You can see emotion in his face
@sew161
@sew161 Жыл бұрын
Just my opinion
@ikr2377
@ikr2377 Жыл бұрын
I think he is atypical
@frenchtoast7742
@frenchtoast7742 6 ай бұрын
They must have him on medication for the interview to calm him down . He is old and they don’t want him to get upset .
@zaneplatt3533
@zaneplatt3533 2 ай бұрын
Are people really this mind numbingly stupid 😂. Have you really not seen just how many perfectly normal people speak like this. Not everyone is an animated speaker
@chatita9527
@chatita9527 Жыл бұрын
Poor poor victims, families, friends ... and this murderer's parents. I do not think you can forgive these horrendous crimes. I hope the victims' families can kind of forget, but I do not think that you should be expected to forgive.
@charlieelizabeth1167
@charlieelizabeth1167 10 ай бұрын
Asking for forgiveness as one thing, but saying he paid the price is so unjustified, he tortured in the most gruesome barbaric inhumane way to so many people and he was killed quickly they don’t compare
@AbdullahIslam99
@AbdullahIslam99 10 ай бұрын
Exactly but where is part 3?
@joshuafult84
@joshuafult84 4 ай бұрын
Not to defend him but torture wasn't really part of Dahmer's killings. He preferred to kill his victims fast and quick.
@marcosartiles
@marcosartiles Жыл бұрын
He looks so normal yet so disturbed.
@queenraven1458
@queenraven1458 Жыл бұрын
How could they not know 🙄 I believe they just didn't want to know but they knew
@We_Are_All_Vultures
@We_Are_All_Vultures Жыл бұрын
No one could think that.. it's insanity.
@davemustaki134
@davemustaki134 Жыл бұрын
These types of stories always remind me of that smashing pumpkins song Ava adore! Scary really
@LadyVader33
@LadyVader33 Жыл бұрын
Forgiveness doesn't mean the pain or trauma vanishes
@diana3lade470
@diana3lade470 Жыл бұрын
True, but it eases it. You can’t move on if you are holding on to something
@haleydayyoder
@haleydayyoder 7 ай бұрын
Mental health therapy was not prominent back in the 1970’s. This entire generation suffered without assistance. So terribly sad.
@ginacalitri8341
@ginacalitri8341 3 ай бұрын
It’s so uncomfortable watching him eat even normal food 🤢
@MacBobby1408
@MacBobby1408 Жыл бұрын
I feel for Lionel because that’s gotta be the hardest situation to possibly be in as a father. In part 1 of the interview Dr. Phil seemed to wanna hammer home the idea that Lionel didn’t do his job as a father, and missed all these warning signs and stuff. And here in part 2 he’s kinda doing it again. I mean it was just frustrating to watch because none of us could ever possibly understand how hard it is to be a father under those circumstances.
@markemerson8399
@markemerson8399 6 ай бұрын
Dr Phil is the best!
@tramahticgaming719
@tramahticgaming719 7 ай бұрын
He and his son sound almost exactly alike in the inflictions and tone of their voice. Similar demeanor as well. Kinda strange.
@hoihoi1473
@hoihoi1473 Жыл бұрын
Sad sad story overall..
@philosopher.d
@philosopher.d Жыл бұрын
Richard Jenkins nailed this role
@doktorava2265
@doktorava2265 7 ай бұрын
Lionel paid a very heavy price for not being present during a very short yet critical time period for his undoubtedly disturbed son.
@suefalk2682
@suefalk2682 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know when this Dr Phil interview was with his parents?
@TrIXxXxBOSS1
@TrIXxXxBOSS1 Жыл бұрын
2020 I think idk
@suefalk2682
@suefalk2682 Жыл бұрын
@@TrIXxXxBOSS1 he looked a lot younger so I would say early 2000’s is probably when it was
@TrIXxXxBOSS1
@TrIXxXxBOSS1 Жыл бұрын
@@suefalk2682 I just saw someone say this was done right before covid happened but I'm sure you could look up the air date the quality seems a bit too good for early 2000s to me
@Anna_Anna92
@Anna_Anna92 Жыл бұрын
The thing is his father would never have thought he would commit such heinous crimes. He found out about a few odd things. But i doubt he ever thought oh my sons probably going to become the worst serial killer in America. To me he seemed to be a very loving father in the family home videos. No one could ever truly know what goes on in someone's mind. Not even your own children's.
@ZaraMurphy1001
@ZaraMurphy1001 Жыл бұрын
This man is weird, it's even weirder that no one can see it😐
@ehrlich_
@ehrlich_ Жыл бұрын
Dr Phil IS a creep.
@StrawberryJam806
@StrawberryJam806 Жыл бұрын
You’re probably weird too.
@tomdabomb3457
@tomdabomb3457 Жыл бұрын
Ohh I see it!!!! I wouldn't want to be in the same room as Lionel. We is weird AF!
@briarrose29
@briarrose29 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always thought he was creepy. He’s a jerk.
@Edelweis2797
@Edelweis2797 Жыл бұрын
When he said “I have had friends who also collected dead animal bodies” like Jeff did… like I feel like he was talking about himself and not “friends” of his …
@karinamoreira951
@karinamoreira951 5 ай бұрын
parte 3?
@basbas768
@basbas768 4 ай бұрын
My cousin also was interested in dead animals and their insides but he became a vet surgeon.
@jackydupon9183
@jackydupon9183 7 ай бұрын
Not a single sign of emotion 😢
@GarrettHampton2004
@GarrettHampton2004 6 ай бұрын
He’s traumatized as much as the victims. No emotions is normal
@heathermixson1265
@heathermixson1265 Жыл бұрын
There is also such a thing as generational curses.....that's scriptural as well. May grace and mercy abound.
@geminienergy
@geminienergy Жыл бұрын
Ngl his voice is soothing + dr phils i could fall asleep.
@mariaamentas6755
@mariaamentas6755 Жыл бұрын
Jeff's father looks like Freddy Krueger
@FutureSerialKiller
@FutureSerialKiller Жыл бұрын
R.i.p. Jeff
@MomentswithDavid
@MomentswithDavid Жыл бұрын
Seeing them grasp at religion for closure and answers is hard
@Iwatchstuff1000
@Iwatchstuff1000 Жыл бұрын
Not everyone wears their heart on their sleeve & shows emotion, doesn’t mean Lionel doesn’t feel or is cold.
@shannonsample6912
@shannonsample6912 Жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for his father. I kind of wonder if he kinda knew what was going on when the box had the head in it, n gave Jeff a chance to get rid of it. He loved his son so much
@Theunderpriviledged2004
@Theunderpriviledged2004 Жыл бұрын
He truly has lost everything.
@jackie6343
@jackie6343 Жыл бұрын
I feel so sorry for his parents it's really Not there fault 😔
@ZaraMurphy1001
@ZaraMurphy1001 Жыл бұрын
Their * It is their fault, if your child collects roadkill in a bag as a hobby, that's a huge red flag to any normal parent.
@EVNL576
@EVNL576 Жыл бұрын
@@ZaraMurphy1001 Me and my brother would pick dead animals and we did just fine. I’m sure back then in the 70’s it was no big deal, was just entertainment. Was better than cruel, murderous video games.
@jmfia2391
@jmfia2391 Жыл бұрын
@@EVNL576 yall are disgusting
@jmfia2391
@jmfia2391 Жыл бұрын
@@ZaraMurphy1001 🤣
@kakashicage8353
@kakashicage8353 Жыл бұрын
@@ZaraMurphy1001 I would be ok if my kid would be actually doing taxidermy but if he’s just doing it for fun I’m putting him in a psychiatric ward
@brixseilish830
@brixseilish830 Жыл бұрын
the only thing that irks me is that Lionel asks for the victim’s family’s to forgive the man that coldly murdered their loved ones just because jeffrey is dead now
@Lonebby1
@Lonebby1 Жыл бұрын
RIGHT and he kept trying to clarify it more and more
@adamr8628
@adamr8628 8 ай бұрын
He wants the victims to experience the benefits of forgiveness. Its a huge step to forgive and forgiveness has absolutely nothing to do with the perpetrator. It doesn't mean that anything done was ok. Forgiveness is all about the victim trying to move on.
@mickeyandres2651
@mickeyandres2651 Жыл бұрын
I think there’s always been this push to blame his mother with wild accusations of issues without proof and she strongly denies them but I’ve always believed it was Lionel who was the problem in the home and he has the issues frankly. He’s been off to me from the get go….
@angieeespinosa979
@angieeespinosa979 Жыл бұрын
His mom wanted them to study his brain and Lionel didn't want to, but he mentions wanting to get to the bottom of it and figure out why his son was that way or made him that way? He knows that his brain might look just like his sons. I feel bad for him but then I don't
@StrawberryJam806
@StrawberryJam806 Жыл бұрын
I mean how so?? No one is perfect on this earth. Lionel is not to blame for what his son did. Period. He always loved Jeffrey and tried his best.
@briarrose29
@briarrose29 Жыл бұрын
Same! Media latched onto Lionel because he’s a man and they love blaming mothers
@mittern_love
@mittern_love Жыл бұрын
The pills no doubt had an effect despite what Joyce said. You can't even drink 2 plus cups of coffee or drink alcohol at all with a baby inside.
@manderz1627
@manderz1627 Жыл бұрын
Dissection of his brain wouldn’t show much if anything at all. His mom was abusive, and wanted to deflect everything. She abandoned jeff and took the brother. Nor did she visit or call Jeff after she left. Lionel wanted to know how this started and why. You won’t get that from a dissection of Jeff’s brain.
@salmasirag8685
@salmasirag8685 Жыл бұрын
Where his brother?
@louannhuber2651
@louannhuber2651 12 күн бұрын
My first question would have been, did you notice any warning signs while he was growing up?
@charn3lly
@charn3lly Жыл бұрын
dr. phil yelling at us at the end of the video is so jarring
@juliedavis9659
@juliedavis9659 Жыл бұрын
They got paid a hefty amount for this. That said if they wanted to make this 100% transparent and candid, they should've hired their own film crew as well and play both sides of the footage. Meaning theirs and "Dr. Phils". That way ppl could actually see it all and make their own opinions.
@yosi8246
@yosi8246 2 ай бұрын
I can only imagine how he felt when he found out the truth about his son
@breezystl777
@breezystl777 Жыл бұрын
good job honoring the victims and not focusing on the perpetrator Dr. Phil.....🙄🙄
@batmang9014
@batmang9014 Жыл бұрын
Dudes a hypocrite. Bashes the Netflix show and does the same thing
@breezystl777
@breezystl777 Жыл бұрын
@@batmang9014 💯💯💯💯 Most of his shows are of him using people's pain and mental health issues for exploitation and views. There's a reason he doesn't have his license. And he'll claim its to "help" them.... sometimes he fixes them up with his doctor friends or whatever, but he's a piss poor excuse of a "Dr.". and always bragging about his credentials 🙄 and his wife's fake skincare line when she got enough surgery to the point where her face doesnt move and she looks like one of those blow up dolls when she does her "shocked" look that the cameraman always catches... 😳😬 sorry needed to vent my dr. Phil frustration 😂
@veezienhamoruhwande99
@veezienhamoruhwande99 Жыл бұрын
Could it be the father is hiding something?
@diana3lade470
@diana3lade470 Жыл бұрын
In this specific interview yes, he’s not giving up all info. He did admit that he had the same thoughts as Jeff, he just wasn’t as impulsive as he was
@beckyp8914
@beckyp8914 Жыл бұрын
Jeffrey was an extremely overly sensitive child that didn’t know how to express his need for love and attention. He craved emotional closeness from a male. Unfortunately it led him to take a course for the worse.
@tonyabarrett3008
@tonyabarrett3008 Жыл бұрын
exactly. I'm not saying I sympathize with the killings, but that anger and abandonment had to come from somewhere. I feel sympathy for him only because of the abandonment from his mother, the bullying at school, if his parents wouldve seen the signs before hand then maybe he couldve gotten help.
@8luvbug
@8luvbug Жыл бұрын
@@tonyabarrett3008 his mom didn't abandoned him. 🙄
@tonyabarrett3008
@tonyabarrett3008 Жыл бұрын
@@8luvbug did you not do your research? His mom left him at the house alone while her and his younger brother ran off to his grandmas house, the day of his graduation, that to some people would be abandonment, get educated pls
@8luvbug
@8luvbug Жыл бұрын
@@tonyabarrett3008 I've done plenty of research on this case. You clearly got your information from the inaccurate Netflix series. Now YOU please go get educated on what REALLY happened.
@w.kamaranjoku1712
@w.kamaranjoku1712 Жыл бұрын
What's there to be heard that has never been heard about Dahmer
@doriscastillo8020
@doriscastillo8020 Ай бұрын
Sad for the father to don't paid attention to his son.
@pandalover8178
@pandalover8178 Жыл бұрын
The father look good for a 80+ yrs old man
@claudettewright365
@claudettewright365 Жыл бұрын
This interview was probably 15+ years ago. He looks a lot older now. He did an interview in 2020 where you can clearly see his age.
@patreabrumfield2604
@patreabrumfield2604 7 ай бұрын
Oh, he wants the victim's to forgive this monster for killing their children, but doesn't want to forgive the person who killed his 🤦‍♀️ make it make sense.😤
@UmmeMoosa1342
@UmmeMoosa1342 Жыл бұрын
Biological mom looks like a Hollywood actress
@KylieeeP
@KylieeeP Жыл бұрын
I’m sooooo sorry but when he said “I’ve had friends who’ve said the same thing.” I cracked out laughing bc you know full damn well her don’t have any friends who jack off to road kill intestine and if he does I’m seriously afraid
@frenchtoast7742
@frenchtoast7742 6 ай бұрын
They must have the father on medication for this interview to remain calm . He is old and they don’t want him to have anything happen to him . This would be too emotional for him . When the trial went on he was younger and now talking about this and remembering everything and talking about it he is older .
@swiadomosczwiazkowpl
@swiadomosczwiazkowpl Жыл бұрын
He could be a veterinarian, a surgeon, if he liked exploring biology. He was misdirected. Bullying at school didn't help. Sexuality too.
@meganmose
@meganmose Жыл бұрын
Jeff had to ask, but dont know he did that
@nicholasjanke3476
@nicholasjanke3476 4 ай бұрын
There is NO forgiveness for what that evil monster did!
@dhsegyhr
@dhsegyhr Жыл бұрын
He speaks like Jeff
@britawater9640
@britawater9640 10 ай бұрын
forgive, but not forget.
@ayamata8950
@ayamata8950 Ай бұрын
Those parents are kind of creepy!
@XnuffyX
@XnuffyX Жыл бұрын
DAMN IF THAT WAS MY SON OOOOOOOH I WOULD HAVE BEEN SOOO EMBARRASSED
@k.r.6697
@k.r.6697 Жыл бұрын
You never pay the price when you’ve taken multiple peoples lives… you’ve altered the world permanently, you’ve altered the future permanently.
@da---536
@da---536 5 ай бұрын
4:49 poor phil biting his tongue
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