As a reminder, Piccolo lost the Tournament of Power because he didn’t hear his opponent. I repeat, Piccolo lost because he didn’t HEAR his opponent. PICCOLO lost because he didn’t HEAR his opponent. PICCOLO, the Namekian, the guy that can literally hear a conversation from ACROSS the EARTH lost because he didn’t HEAR his opponent.

There's only one good thing I can point out about the Future Trunks arc & it came from the dub. "Hold your fire. This man isn't black!"

Imagine if the og goku freeza fight was constantly interrupted by piccolo and krillin describing what's happening to us smh

I love how he just skipped over the Vegeta copy arc 😂😂😂😂

You can't really compare Frieza to his brother. He's just... Cooler

*_dont let this distract you from the fact that Broly got the biggest Zenkai boost in the whole franchise_*

Does anyone remember when Frieza said 'how dare you make me put effort into a fight' to broly

"This arc would have benefited significantly had resurrection F not happened" Thank god for the manga am I right?

Goku: I've trained my whole life and now I have god Ki. Frieza: give me four months. Goku: I've now achieved ultra instinct. Frieza: give me another four more months.

When they didn’t allow Vegeta to just kill Frieza... The most disrespectful moment to Vegeta’s character.

On another note, congrats to Taidomodachi on making Zamasu a sympathetic antagonist in his series, and that's ACTUAL fanfiction.

21:02 As for the fanfiction part, its actually very easy to tell who's idea this was, it was Toyotaro. You see, back in the late 2000s around the pre-BoG days, Toyotaro was writing his own DBZ spinoff manga called DBAF featuring super saiyan 5, I'm sure even new DB fans remember it, and on a side note its actually a really amazing fan manga contrary to the crap Toyotaro now produces in Super, but aside from that, in the DBAF mangas there's an evil Goku arc, a Goku from some alternate dimension or universe where he's evil, he has his own evil super saiyan forms and everything, and even wears the same dark clothing as Goku Black, along with a signature move called the Dark Kamehameha, if this all sounds familiar then it should because Toyotaro literally just put all of this in DBS, except in a far worse way than those fan mangas. Also that whole Supreme Kai going rogue schtick, that's also from DBAF, its literally from the first Xicor arc where Goku's DNA is stolen by the West Supreme Kai and she uses it to create her and Goku's child Xicor and decides to commit mass genocide. Point is, these concepts are really amazing and were executed very well in fan mangas but, as always, when DBS tried it, it came as the worst possible iteration of it. Having read the DBAF mangas I was so excited to see an official evil Goku/Supreme Kai are but I was majorly disappointed.

Swag I wanna say congrats because in your “I do not like dragon ball super” video you said girlfriend and in this one you said fiancé so good for you man

Cavemen: *hit each other" Zamasu: ok let's wipe out humanity

Man this is the best break down by far. Your extensive knowledge of DB and your logic is on point. You clarified a lot of things for me. And I agree wholeheartedly with your take. Thank you sir 🙌🏾🙏🏾

I freaking love swagkage, The most insightful anime fan I've ever known

"He sees one rock man hit another rock man and he decides this is it." 😂😂

Dragon ball: Toriyama’s homage to old martial arts movies. Dragon ball z: a homage to science fiction Toriyama was inspired by. Dragon ball GT: a homage to Toriyama’s work. Dragon ball super: Toriyama cashing in

With the freeza arc, I think a good way to fix the power scaling is to have freeze train for a longer period of time and allow goku and vegeta to do the same. It could lead the fight to having goku needing to go all the way to super saiyen 3 just to gain an upper hand and still have the situation where goku gets shot, but this time leave vegetas win intact. That could be used as a lead into goku attempting to up his awareness during fighting, seeing as he could have died from that shot. That allows a good set up for the training for UI

The thing that always bothered me about the Goku Black arc is that they have time travel so they could stay in the normal timeline and train for years and just go back to exactly when Trunks left and be way more powerful

Anyone remember when super saiyan was special?

Jiren isn't flying he's sitting on the invisible dude

Frieza legit said in dbz "I haven't had to dust myself off like that since I was a child training with my father" So frieza did train

With Trunks' spirit bomb, all it would've taken was one line of Goku saying "Everyone give me your energy so I can send it to Trunks!". That would've been enough! Or even better have someone from the main timeline somehow communicate (establish a way to do it first, like a time tunnel or something) and send energy from loads of universes for the attack.

In Dragonball/Z characters would bleed when wounded. In Dragonball Super when character becomes wounded he becomes dirty and topless. Any thoughts?

Remember when piccolo had more attacks than the special beam cannon? Man, those were some good times...

Honestly dude, you did a good job with this video, I love super to death but i was still able to agree with most of the points presented in the video, great job my dude!!

40:49 i know im 2 years late, but that a "way out" soundtrack SLAPSSS, great taste man

Two dudes fight in a cave Zamasu:-this world shall know pain

Freezer: Trains one day goku super saiyan: loses

With the Freeza power boost, I was so sure that in the TV adaptation Champa would show up and train Freeza and that's how he'd catch up. Anything would've made more sense than what we got.

While I enjoyed the concept of Evil Goku and I also enjoyed the fights but overall I think to summarize my feelings on the Future Trunks arc is “oh god I hate time travel”.

You know Goku black arc is shit when xenoverse 2 developers changed the ending so Trunks would get the power from all timelines so it would make atleast a little sense. Actually that is my favourite thing

I didn’t like how Super made Goku so more oblivious then Z.

Also, if Gowasu dies, wouldn’t his life also be linked to the god of destruction of that universe?

"Its return is right around the corner" oh boi how wrong we were

Honestly it kinda was: 1.) never felt tension 2.) Goku became the clown vegeta always accused him of being 3.) Piccolo became a running Joke 4.) Gohans demeanor was one of a major “try-hard”. Would’ve been better if he was more returning for his love of fighting than a necessity 5.) No Faulconer music 6.) extreme power scaling 7.) SS3 becoming a more useless transformation than ever before People like to call Buu Saga a shit show but it was at least a serious one

Swagkage: look at coolers final form its awesome its not just some gold spray paint Dragon ball heroes: GOLDEN COOLERRRRRRRRR

I dont even like dragon ball alot but I love watching and listening to Swag talking abt it

You also forgot how unfair the writers really are against the non-main characters in the TOP. They're all getting weaker by the minute while Goku, especially Goku, just gets stronger by the power of friendship.

Bringing Frieza back - an enemy weaker than an unmastered regular Super Saiyan - as an enemy stronger than a Super Saiyan God with the excuse that he was a lazy bastard who never trained was lame and set the whole tone of the series for me.

Piccolo was done so dirty in Super. That scene where he was about to show Goku the evil containment technique but Goku dismissed him and then Bulma said ‘you can still show us’ was one of the most funniest scenes🤣🤣 but I felt so bad for him 😭😭.

4 years later This is still my favourite Swagkage video

Roshi's powerlevel is below 200...what the heck is he even doing there

I liked 17 in Super, I really did. But dear god did they ass pull his power. He stops poachers for a few years and that just suddenly makes him as strong as SSJB and able to take down Jiren a few times.

"So I guess he's a SUPER DUPER PRODIGY" I swear you always make me laugh!

Intro 0:00 Part 1 0:40 Part 2 2:04 Part 3 2:45 Part 4 12:56 Part 5 20:28 Part 6 37:54

Goku and Vegeta had 16 years of training yet 4 months was enough to get beaten by Frieza

“Jiren black would’ve been a problem” wow straight facts

Wish they made the show more serious.

Frieza never training until Resurection 'F' I think can be pretty well explained with how he really didn't want to risk being sent to Hell again. Also his power boost after a short time isn't just that he's a prodigy, it's that he is a very mutated member of his race. And Roshi being on the team isn't so crazy if we consider he must've restarted his own training at some point so he could help his students instead of just staying in the background. This training would probably have had to have started around the Saiyan Saga, and by the time of Frieza's resurrection he had surpassed Yamcha and Chiaotzu.

I have so many memories from dbz, i literally wouldn’t want to rewatch any dbs

Swagkage: The synopsis makes it sound like Fanfiction. Me: That's just about sums it up.

you have to keep in mind that a few minutes before, a kamehameha from goku blue was able to damage zamasu at a cellular level and break his "immortality", yet a final kamehameha from vegitto blue couldnt even scratch zamasu...that makes vegittos return even more dissapointing

Idk why, but I've watched this video like 5 times this month

angry swagkage is one of my favorite things ever

You guys remember when Hakai used to be really cool? It was a technique that the Gods of Destruction can do in order to literally DESTROY their enemies! Or at least was, until they turned it into another bland energy attack.

DBS lacks tension... I mean, literally everything bad that is happening in DBS can be fixed by Whis and/or destroyed by Beerus so there's literally nothing to worry about :/ Edit: tournament of power is an exceptation

For power scaling, I find it best to think of the numbers in terms of “potential”, but not consistency (like how an amplifier may peak at 1400W but works consistently at 350W). I think the transformations are like certain battle styles, but they come with caveats (like energy consumption). Kinda like how in a real fight you might see the underpowered guy come out on top because he outmatched his opponent in a different way. Also, they’ve been pretty adamant about how they’re not fighting at 100% for the entirety of any battle, so I think that helps reinforce the idea that power levels are to be taken with a grain of salt.

I honestly have soured on Super since it ended and I've had time to think about the series. The only things it really did right were the movies, the concept of Goku/Vegeta being somewhat comparable in power instead of an unclosable gap between them (SSJ3 vs SSJ2), and the *idea* behind Goku Black/Evil Supreme Kai (not the execution).

Video should be retitled to "why dragon ball super doesnt make any sense"

I was just on a swagkage marathon then swag drops a 40min video. Let’s go!! Edit: Also swag, perhaps I’m late to the party, but I noticed you referred to your SO as fiancée and not girlfriend like in your past videos. Congrats my guy!

*The next part of super is just around the corner" Video uploaded : 2 years ago

My boi Swagkage spitting the facts here.

Swag changed my view of the Goku Black arc. Trunks was trying to Talk no Jutsu Zamasu.

swag: Gives valid critique with strong support and evidence of his claims fans: I see what you doing... you hating

Theres always small things that grind my gears with dragonball but I still love it.

I loved it, I thought it was also really funny too. I’m all caught up with the manga too & it’s really good!

Dragonball Super lacks one major thing that Dragonball, Dragonball Z, and Dragonball GT had. Tension. There is no reason to be concerned for any of these characters in Super. Whis has the temporal do-over thing so when Goku and Vegeta make a mistake he just reverses said mistake, Zeno is on speed dial so even if the heroes lose Goku can just call on Zeno and have him delete the enemy, and the final antagonist of the show is nothing more than a walking power level and not actually evil. We had villains like Mercenary Tao, King Piccolo and his son (who eventually turned good), Raditz, Nappa, Vegeta, Zarbon, The Ginyu Force, Frieza, The Androids (Including Cell), Majin Buu, and yes even the Shadow Dragons with their leader Omega Shenron that gave us some sort of tension. You don't feel any worry in Super, and if there is some worry it's just completely manufactured. Like with the Universal Survival Arc, it was made completely useless when 17 wished back every single universe that Zeno destroyed....so what was the fucking point of the tournament anyway? To have two little fucking psychopathic god kids just erase universes for fun? I also completely disagree with you when it comes to Jiren. You compared him to a brick wall, and that's the problem. He's merely an object that's powerful. His backstory is awful and we have had characters who were incredibly strong but were also fleshed out. People shit on Syn/Omega Shenron for being a terrible character, but at least even with the bad writing of GT Omega Shenron still had a reason for "being". Jiren really doesn't in the grand scheme. He has no character to him.

Frieza was a cool character but now it's hard to be afraid of a bad guy that has lost so many times.

Despite the huge amount of problems it had… I really liked the goku black arc. It was tournament of power when all the power scaling issues finally broke me and I dropped the series

I NEEDED a fightbetween 'this guy' you mentioned at the end of the vid and Gohan. The saiyaman outfit didn't need to come out but some poser shit and respect between the 2 would have been epic

Edit: thanks for 100+ likes fellow swaggers Unpopular opinion: Gohan black would have been a better choice villain instead of goku black. Everyone always likes to throw the word "potential" around, how he has the most (despite never living up to it outside Z) but with that said if zuno told zamasu to change bodies with gohan, he actually grinded and got his body into a peak apex state he could've been a much more dangerous enemy. Trunks would have had to fight a dark evil version of his former mentor and best friend, and goku would have had to fight a dark twisted version of his son

I literally got a headache watching this. I knew Super wasn't perfect, but it's straight up mind-numbing in retrospect.

i like how in the tournament of power krillin talked from the bench like an ash catchem companion in the Pokemon tournament "Pikachu is in problem because nidoking is a ground type... wow ash is so smart, he used Pikachu speed to overcome the type disadvantage".

One thing i could never forgive in super is that they finally let Vegeta get his revenge for Frieza for once, But then there's an asspull where Frieza just punches the ground and suddenly the earth explodes out of the blue and in the end Goku stole Vegeta's Kill like wtf all those things was completely unnecessary to begin with, They could've just removed that and it would've stayed the same and fans would've loved it more

You missed one very important point...How the hell did Vegeta not know that Goku had trained to get kaioken blue when he literally spent 3 years straight with him in the time chamber?!!! That was just prior to them going to the tournament too!

You forgot to mention that had the fusion not been retconned, that scene where Kibito and Shin defused by wishing for it a few episodes prior would've been excellent foreshadowing. They could've fused, beat Zamasu, then wondered "what now" and everyone's like "guess they'll have to get used to living together..." And then Shin could've exclaimed "WAIT! You can just use the dragon balls to defuse, like me and Kibito!" Would've been a far better solution to the arc.

I’ve always wondered why they wouldn’t of just done the god transformation on all the saiyans, put Trunks and Goten in the time chamber for 48 hours and used them instead of Krillin and Tien in the tournament of power

Trunks rlly tried to argue with a homeless mental guy like son it ant even worth it

that android 17 vs goku fight was garbage.. there is no way 17 should be able to go toe to toe with ssb goku 🤦🏽‍♂️

Am I the only one who noticed him say fiancé not girlfriend? Well anyway!! Congratulations swagkage!!! EDIT: didn’t expect to get this many likes!! Once again congrats swagkage!

I could listen to Swag talk about stuff I don't know anything about for days

Swagkage: was it really that bad? ...yes

LMAO I love hearing Swag rip on DBS.

Anime 101: a background character explains what you see...but you can already see it.

i just realized something: Zamazsu wanted to wipe out all mortals but he partnered himself with a mortal.

It’s very evident Swagkage does not understand DB to the extent he understands Naruto.

So. Frieza became stronger than Teen Gohan, Majin Vegeta, Dabura, Supreme Kai, Majin Buu, Evil Buu, Super Buu, Mystic Gohan, Super Saiyan 3 Goku, Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks, and somehow closed the almost 1,000 times Gap between Super Saiyan 3 and God, and the exponential increase from the training with Whis all in 4 months?

I can answer all your questions with one phrase “plot armor”

In attempted defense of trunks being so powerful and having super saiyan rage I was always under the impression that there was more training with Vegeta than what was originally shown, I always assumed that they had much more rigorous training where Vegeta must have been going all out in blue and trunks must have been struggling to catch up That's why I always thought super Saiyan rage was potentially when a half saiyan has God ki But that's just my wild theory and it's never been confirmed nor denied and if they really wanted to go with something like that they should have actually explained it

“So I guess he’s a Super-Duper prodigy” “If he’s a Super-Duper prodigy, I’ll have to find a way to become a Super DEE Duper prodigy”

It’s hard to win an argument with a smart person But it’s impossible to win an argument with an idiot You hear that trunks

This upload caught me off guard 😂

When goku says "times 10" that means he is using kaio ken 10 times at once.

Instructions unclear: fandom is still punching the air waiting for the show to come back

Just gonna throw this out there... Episode 18 is lowkey the the most fun Dragon Ball Super episode. Don't @ me

Friza soldier: you should train to be better then gok- Also him: dead

Even the song has changed, it is no longer about fighting for love and glory, it is about challenging the Gods.

Your video made me think about how hilarious it would be if Jiren were to be disqualified for flying during his meditating. But flying is not really banned as much as it is just made physically impossible, I guess. But that just makes the situation worse as that means that it made no sense that Jiren could fly. And they introduced this contrivance just to make look… cool? Personally I think that he looks pretty stupid doing nothing when he could just wipe out the competition, get his wish, and then be done with the tournament.