Thank you for this! Keep on with the 17th century - no one seems to be at all interested in this century and there are a few of us who are fascinated by the period. 🧡💙

I'm definitely guilty of calling them stays instead of bodies--glad for the clarification 🤣 It's also so nice to see another content creator interested in this time period. It doesn't get enough love or attention, and it should.

As a lay person with a passing interest, this topic has always confused me. I appreciate the clarification.

I absolutely want to see the video you mention around ten minutes in, about women's body shape and association with youth and marital status (I don't know how directly I can say it without angering youtube). This video was lovely -- thank you so much for excellent information about this neglected time period! I've moved your book up to the top of my wishlist and can't wait to read it.

Your book is such a treasure; so excited to see you on KZfaq!

I’m in Florida, USA, so I just ordered your book but from a U.S. seller. I sure hope that’s ok and that you get the royalty from the sale. I never know if I’ve done the right thing. I didn’t know you had a book and I’m delighted to find you and hear your knowledge. Thank you for posting, you are appreciated. It’s going to be a long few days waiting for your book to arrive!

this is a great video! i'm also really interested in fashion throughout australian history

Amusing note about how we name things based on where they're from but with food: the danish (pastry bread). In Denmark it's called "Vienna bread" (to translate it). So the Danish got it from Austria and the English speaking world got it from Denmark. Overall, very good and informative video!

Loved this, informative and properly cited while still being accessible enough to watch with dinner! Looking forward to what you create next!

Brilliant. So informative, thank you.

Thank goodness for all those thieves or we'd have little record of what those undergarments were called in each time period! It's a shame and surprise to me that nothing exists (letters, books, manuals, etc) that explain better the meaning and evolution of the terminology.

Sounds like a good book

I thought I would add this, as when I'm gone, it will be forgotten. If it's useful information I'm glad! My relative born in the 1880's and her sisters all had, what I thought, a very peculiar practice. ( apart from never taking their hats off while paying visits, coats yes, hats never) They all wore something they called a chemise, a white linen or cotton under garment, before putting on their 'stays'. The stays, yes plural, because they were two separate, boned pieces held together by very long laces. When laced up, of course, the parts came together. The lacing was at the back, but designed to tie at the front, in the absence of a lady's maid, I presume. As well as this there was a row of hooks and eyes in the front. The bones were not real bones, but very small circles of steel ? wire, entwined with each other in a strip that ran from the top of the stay, to the bottom of the garment, in a slot provided. This garment ended where a bra, today, would begin. As for the bodice, I can say that middle class little girls wore bodices over their vests in winter. The garment was sleeveless, a cotton fleece type lining gave it a slightly padded look. Some were pull over the head, some had 3 rubber buttons down the front to help pull over the head. But they all had the curious feature of having a tape running from the shoulder of the garment to the bottom. It seemed to hold the garment in shape. I think this had died out by the early 50's...thank God!

Wonderful video, thank you, this info on bodies/bodice (specifically being outerwear for informal settings for lower classes) is very helpful for me as I try to construct a slightly historically accurate renaissance fair costume :)

Interesting! Please keep making content ❤

10:14 Yes! Talk about boobies! Interesting that a smaller size was in style

I'm starting to think I should have focused on Edward IV's wardrobe, and how much he copied Burgundy then, when it came to his magnificence rather than a manuscript. I'm so glad this popped up on my KZfaq suggestions. ~MV

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I wonder if the naming variations are more of a product of non-standardized spelling and the great vowel shift than multiple names for the same garments. Edit - referring to “bodyes” which may have actually been the phonetic spelling of the modern bodice. In which case the “bodies” are all a description of a bodice (with or without boning or stiffening).

Would the bodies be the 'stay' for the unstructured Mantua, hence why the body started to be called the stays?

how did that paur of bodies get under the floorboards haha

You have a lot of interesting things to say, which I'd love to learn, but, (& please don't take this personally, as I'm trying to offer constructive criticism, explaining in the hope that it helps you) if you're going to do this long-term, you'd benefit from the help of a vocal coach. Your knowledge & qualifications are unquestionable, but this current fashion where young women adopt Creaky-voice affect, combined with the rush of nerves & your logical attempt to project your voice, while unfortunately having the nasal eastern states accent, makes it feel (as also occurs with many American KZfaqrs) like you're talking AT viewers instead of TO them. A coach could help you with your breathing which will make things much more comfortable & relaxed for you & can teach you how to lower your voice so that you project from your body & not from your head. Work expenses can be tax-deductible & it could be a great investment in your channel, which has the potential to be amazing. Best wishes & good luck.